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Red Sox Chairman: “We Expect To Be Competitive Next Year”

By Mark Polishuk | September 19, 2020 at 9:54am CDT

On the heels of what team chairman Tom Werner described as “a very disappointing season,” Werner said the Red Sox are planning for a return to form in 2021.  In an interview on NESN’s Gameday Live show yesterday (hat tip to MassLive.com’s Chris Cotillo), Werner noted that the Sox were hampered by multiple injuries this season, though “we’re not going to make any excuses.  The only thing I’ll say is that there were a number of bright spots this year.  We’re already attacking the challenges and we expect to be competitive next year.”

The Red Sox are 19-33, a record that puts them in last place in the AL East and 28th of 30 teams (ahead of only the Pirates and Rangers) in winning percentage.  Injuries were indeed a factor as Werner mentioned, most notably Chris Sale being lost to Tommy John surgery and Eduardo Rodriguez missing the entire season after developing myocarditis stemming from a bout of COVID-19.  While the pitching staff never recovered from the loss of those key arms, there were also issues on the position player side, as the likes of J.D. Martinez and Andrew Benintendi underachieved at the plate.

With the postseason out of reach early, the Red Sox did some selling at the deadline, trading such players as Mitch Moreland, Brandon Workman, Heath Hembree, and Kevin Pillar.  However, the fact that Boston didn’t move any true long-term assets was the first hint that the club wasn’t planning any sort of big overhaul.

“We don’t want this to be a long rebuilding process….We’ve got a lot of assets and, as everybody knows, we spend and we’re not a small-market team,” Werner said.  “We’re going to be back next year.”

After two years of luxury tax payments, the Red Sox got their payroll under the tax threshold in 2020, thus resetting their penalty limit to zero and allowing the team to surpass the 2021 threshold ($210MM) if necessary with only a minimal penalty fee.  Of course, last year’s hiring of former Rays executive Chaim Bloom as chief baseball officer indicates that the Sox are likely planning a more efficient approach to spending that would keep them from regularly crossing the tax line, even if Boston will surely still have one of the sport’s higher payrolls.

Xander Bogaerts, Rafael Devers, Alex Verdugo, and promising rookie Bobby Dalbec are bolstering a lineup that is still quite productive, though “there’s no secret to the fact that pitching wins pennants for you….It’s going to start with pitching,” Werner said.  Rodriguez and Nathan Eovaldi project as Boston’s top two starters next year, Martin Perez seems like a good candidate to return on a $6.25MM club option for 2021, and Sale is on track to return in June or July given the usual Tommy John recovery timeframe.  It seems very likely that the Red Sox will augment this group with at least one new pitcher, though it is yet to be known if Bloom will aim to make a big splash or if he will score on a lower-cost acquisition.

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  1. rmullig2

    5 years ago

    If they are serious about contending next year then Trevor Bauer needs to be at the top of their shopping list.

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    • bradthebluefish

      5 years ago

      Agreed. And his willingness to take less years for more money coincides with the Red Sox’s desires.

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      • Michael Macaulay-Birks

        5 years ago

        Think 2/50 gets it done?

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        • WiffleBall

          5 years ago

          No way he goes to the Red Sox on a short term deal. The Yankees, Dodgers, A’s, Padres, Rays, yes– teams that are 100% ready to win now. Bloom’s intention to contend next season is just that: an intention. If he wants to go to a winner, he’ll either sign a short term deal like 2/60 to go to a team like the Dodgers, or a 5/120 to go to a team like the Sox.

          Now, maybe he loves Boston, and wants to play there– that would be an entirely different story– but if his motivation is just to be on a winner, then that’s what I think will happen.

          Because “being competitive” is just a goal. First, it means different things to different people. It could mean they will compete for a wild card spot. It could mean fight for a division crown. But as a goal, it is certainly not a sure enough thing that if I were Bauer I would sign there on a 2 year deal.

          A long term deal yes, though..

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        • oldmansteve

          5 years ago

          Pretty sure Bauer has said in the past he will sign 1 year deals for the most money. So if the Redsox will go 1 year for the most money they can get Bauer. Doesn’t matter what team is more competitive.

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        • Padres458

          5 years ago

          Not even close. Going to be like 1/40

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        • Ketch

          5 years ago

          No way he goes to the Yankees. He has this hate-hate relationship with Gerrit Cole.

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        • looiebelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          He’s a head case. With Bloom in charge, Warner and Henry will say the right things but I don’t see Bloom just blowing up what has just been fixed. Team will spend but smartly. Otherwise what was the point of bringing in Bloom?

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        • kenhowes

          5 years ago

          Being competitive. Tricky phrase. You can’t control how well other teams are playing, only how your team plays. So your goal can’t be winning this title or winning that title. What it can and should be is a goal of a certain number of wins for the season. I would consider 95 wins (in a complete season, not this year’s abortion) to be a good season. Maybe someone else in the division wins 95, maybe not. If someone wins more, well, kudos to that team, and the Sox should be a wild card. If not, they’re in as a divisional champion. Once you get to the playoffs, anything can happen in a five- or seven-game series. But getting there puts you in the hunt, and then it’s just up to you to bring it home. I would view 95 a success; 90 at least not a failure. (90 means you made a nice run of it, but unless the other teams in the division faltered, you’re probably coming up short and hoping to catch into that one-game last chance.)

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    • qbass187

      5 years ago

      100%

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  2. MWeller77

    5 years ago

    I was thinking about how Boston went from last place to champion in 2012-2013, so I went through the seasons: From 2012 – 2018, Boston finished first or last every year. Last season, they broke the streak by finishing third.

    Of course, this year is the anomaly to end all anomalies, and I don’t think they’re going to finish last again next year. Maybe they don’t go last-to-first again, but I expect they’ll be in the mix again the AL East.

    I wonder if any team has ever won 2 titles and also finished last 3 times in a 7-year span, as Boston did from 2012-18? That is kinda remarkable, really.

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    • WiffleBall

      5 years ago

      While some teams, including recent Sox teams, have done it, it can’t be counted on. There is no formula for doing it. I hope they do compete, it makes competition way more fun when Boston is at the top. I just don’t see it. Maybe they can sneak in as a second wild card, but I think we’re looking at 2022 at the earliest before the Sox are back fighting for first place. I hope i’m wrong.

      That said, if Manfred gets his wish to keep these expanded playoffs, anything is on the table for just about any team.

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  3. AL34

    5 years ago

    This guy was hired to reduce payroll and put a quasi competitive team out there. This team has so many holes to fill that it is ridiculous to think they are going to compete. They need 2 starting pitcher a bunch of relievers and a closer. They need to get rid of Dustin Pedroia who has not played in three years. They need a second baseman until Downs is supposedly ready, a centerfielder and to get Benintendi back somehow to what he use to be. Bloom is preaching to the season ticket holders and the fans. This is at least a three year to five year plan unless they are going to spend a lot of money this off season. I have been a fan since 1977 and have not seen a worse Red Sox team than this. My friend is an older Yankees fan and he completely agrees and he says it goes back to the 60s for a worse Red Sox team.

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    • GCarbs

      5 years ago

      A rotation of Sale, E Rod, and one or two decent arms is solid. The lineup is still decent, as evidenced by having a middle of the road offense despite huge slumps by core pieces. The pen is most concerning to me, but that can pretty easily be addressed through FA and low profile trades

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      • Javia

        5 years ago

        If it was so easy to build a good bullpen everyone would have one wouldn’t they? Building a good bullpen is a major undertaking. It depends a lot on coaching, pitching strategy and is always a crapshoot that involves large amounts of pure luck.

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        • GCarbs

          5 years ago

          I said it can be addressed. Doesn’t mean it will work out. The Mets got Dellin Betances; they addressed their pen. Doesn’t mean it worked.

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        • RickEO

          5 years ago

          Perfectly said

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        • 4WSsince04

          5 years ago

          Javia – agreed! It is hard to build a consistent bullpen…..both Workman and Hembree were on the verge of not making the 2019 Red Sox. Then Workman comes out of no where to become the closer and Hembree turns in a decent season. Fast forward to 2020….neither pitcher had great number at the time of the trade….and now…..

          “Both Workman and Hembree have struggled with the Phillies. Hembree allowed four runs, all earned, four hits (one homer) and one walk in one inning for the Phillies on Sunday. He has a 12.54 ERA (9 ⅓ innings, 13 runs) and has allowed seven homers since the Red Sox traded him to Philadelphia.

          Workman has a 6.39 ERA (12 ⅔ innings, nine earned runs).”

          Mass live.com

          Bloom traded Workman (FA 5 weeks after trade) and Hembree for max value.

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      • looiebelongsinthehall

        5 years ago

        Sorry but you don’t start 2021 expecting Sale and ERod to be at top level. Who knows if ERod will be on the field ever again. Of course that’s worst case but to project how he’ll be as an athlete is simply guessing.

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    • laker150

      5 years ago

      AL34, you should have seen some of the Red Sox teams back in the 1960’s ! This is a good group of players that Chaim is starting with. It won’t be long before they’re competitive again.

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      • WiffleBall

        5 years ago

        You know the 60s are nearly SIXTY years ago right? Not worth the comparison.

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        • jekporkins

          5 years ago

          Huh? So what if they were? If he remembers them then he can compare them. I remember teams from the 1980s. That’s nearly FORTY years ago. Should I not compare them either?

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        • oldmansteve

          5 years ago

          You should have seen the Red Sox teams back in the 20’s!

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        • laker150

          5 years ago

          Wiffleball wow that’s pretty good…did you figure that out all by yourself?

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        • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

          5 years ago

          Laker fan coming through with a drive-by on a Boston thread. Love it. Too bad the Celtics can’t meet their side of it when it comes to a finals epic matchup.

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      • 4WSsince04

        5 years ago

        AL34 hated 2018, because there was not enough to complain about…..lol

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    • bobtillman

      5 years ago

      Well, the Yanks weren’t all that good back then either….as Ned Martin (the great one) famously labeled Yankee Stadium as the “house that Horace Clarke built”…..

      There won’t be any 5 year plan in Boston. The Sox are hemorrhaging real money this year, probably more than any other team. The on field product is a disaster, NESN is a disaster, even the Jimmy Fund is a disaster. Bloom’s going to get the blame for it, and you can argue whether that’s fair or not.

      But it doesn’t matter whose fault it is. It’s his job to fix it, and do so far more aggressively than he did this winter. Trevor Bauer or whomever, he needs to make a major move to save his job. John Henry just isn’t a very patient man.

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      • looiebelongsinthehall

        5 years ago

        Bob,
        Bloom is not getting blamed for anything. The team hired him to fix the payroll and farm system. He’s done both. The team learned from 14 and 15 that NESN suffers when the team isn’t competitive. Ownership got screwed big time in their soccer investment from what I read. They will spend again but if the right player is not there, they will wait.

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  4. arc89

    5 years ago

    I would be more surprised if they said they wouldn’t be competitive next year. Every GM says this no matter how bad they are.

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    • WiffleBall

      5 years ago

      Exactly. I think it’s every GM’s intent to compete, even if it’s just a public statement. And especially in places like L.A., New York, Boston, Chicago– can you imagine the riot among fans if Bloom said “we don’t expect to be any good next year”???

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      • oldmansteve

        5 years ago

        I don’t need to imagine riots anymore.

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    • Lars MacDonald

      5 years ago

      Agreed arc89. I also agree with AL34 that this Werner statement is all about selling season tickets and giving hope.
      Also, “being competitive” is a purposely vague statement (500 clubs are competitive).
      Every Sox fan should understand that when they hired Bloom, they were making a major strategic shift in how they do business. Don’t expect too many hugh FA contracts going forward or at least until they are a piece or two away from championship caliber.

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      • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

        5 years ago

        Lars don’t forget the owner calls the shots. He instructed the GM to get under that tax we all know that and it was completed. Now it’s back to being the Red Sox and spending. Of all the GM candidates bloom has great knowledge of the game and players and experience to boot. He can run a Big Money Team and that’s why they hired him.

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      • mafiabass

        5 years ago

        Selling season tickets? I seem to recall a 30-some odd year waiting list for those. That dried up already?

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  5. jacobsigel1025

    5 years ago

    I don’t think playoffs are a crazy aspiration for the Sox next year. As long as they address the bullpen to fill the spots of Workman and Hembree, the offense will be pretty good still with X, Devers, Verdugo, JD if he opts in and especially with Dalbec for a full year. Hopefully Benny gets back to form offensively too. On the flip side, Sale and ERod will be back next year and Houck should remain in the rotation with the promise he showed in his first outing. Eovaldi will remain and maybe Perez is resigned as the 5th starter

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  6. Chief Two Hands

    5 years ago

    Who is “we?” Oh, you know…me and all the voices in my head.

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  7. Deleted Userrr

    5 years ago

    Shrek: Like that’s ever gonna happen! *flush*

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    • MikeEmbletonSmellsBad

      5 years ago

      some BODY ONCE TOLD ME

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      • MikeEmbletonSmellsBad

        5 years ago

        THE WORLD IS GONNA ROLL ME!

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  8. Marvels MagaMan

    5 years ago

    Boston hopes to contend next year theyll have to subtract from their current roster to add pitching, starting and relief.

    I’d entertain offers for Devers and expect at least 3 mlb ready pitchers for him. Atlanta, Cleveland, Miami, San Diego have the capital…… Cleveland and San Diego could shift him to the OF. Then sign Tommy La Stella, Cesar Hernandez, DJ Lamahieu, or Didi Gregorious. Id sign Villar or Kiki Hernandez as a super utility player.

    Bring back Pillar and sign Joc Pederson who should come cheaper after an off year (need a platoon for him maybe Cameron maybin) to pair with Verdugo.

    Aside from Trevor Bauer not really any pitcher I’d touch if I was boston.

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    • Marvels MagaMan

      5 years ago

      Far as relief goes. Bring in some combination of Sergio Romo, bring back Workman, Tony Watson, Holland or Rosenthal, McGee or Treinen

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    • Padres458

      5 years ago

      The Sox are lookimg like they are 50 million under the luxury tax next year. Thats plenty of room to add pitching. They might even be okay woth going over the tax this year of they can sign a bunch of 1 year deals

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      • Marvels MagaMan

        5 years ago

        Pitching this year is weak. Not a very good class of free agents. Yeah they have money to spend but not alot of guys id give multiple years to.

        Some good relief options out there for 2021 but I’d go 2 years max on them. They get better offer elsewhere so be it.

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    • Javia

      5 years ago

      I think you may be overestimating Dalbec’s value a bit MagaMan. Pitching is at an absolute premium right now. 3 mlb ready arms? That would cost the Sox both Downs and Dalbec at minimum. Likely Casas as well. Unless you are talking about just barely above replacement level pitchers. Don’t forget, Dalbec has only 54 mlb at-bats.

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      • Jeff Zanghi

        5 years ago

        While I don’t necessarily agree with him… he was suggesting trading Devers not Dalbec… and Devers could actually net 3 ML-ready (or close to it) arms. (maybe not quite by himself… but if they were actually going to trade Devers and wanted 3 ML pitchers back… it would certainly be a good starting point)

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          You are correct sir. I was wrong.

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  9. kingken67

    5 years ago

    Why does everyone assume just because the current head of baseball ops came from a small market team where he didn’t have the luxury of spending on free agents that such an approach will continue in Boston where they do have the money to spend? Bloom was brought in because he’s good at evaluating and developing talented players. He wasn’t hired to replicate TB’s approach in Boston.

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    • RedSox4Life4ever

      5 years ago

      I think he was brought in to replicate TB’s approach to an extent. Being very sufficient with funds, but unlike TB, having the ability to spend when needed/wanted.

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      • Padres458

        5 years ago

        agreed, they definitely want a bit of the TB philosophy, but just with spending

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  10. Ancient Pistol

    5 years ago

    I’m not buying this. There’s no way the Boston Rays are competitive next year.

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      Don’t forget, the owner runs the team and directs the GM. I think Bloom is a talented young man and will do and succeed when given new Direction.

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  11. Bosox2013

    5 years ago

    Ummm nope, that’s all lip service. This is a few years off, expect them to subtract more MLB talent to bolster farm system. Likely, there plan is to develop a contender, they don’t have the depth the trade for high profile controllable players and Bloom is a frugal spender (that’s why he was hired).

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  12. 88winespodiodie

    5 years ago

    More spit-and-shine drivel from a team owner, more over-analysis and worthless media speculation, and more vacuous responses from the teeming masses of sheep.

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  13. nemolee.exe

    5 years ago

    start by firing chain bloom

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      5 years ago

      Bloom is exactly what this team needs right now. They have been too shortsighted the last 2-3 seasons and this is what you get with that approach. Bloom will rebuild this team into a long term, prospect driven organization with smart FA additions. He just needs one more year to clean up the mess he inherited.

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  14. Ketch

    5 years ago

    The Sox have twice finished in last place only to win the AL East pennant the following season. Not sure why people keep saying they’re still X years off.

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  15. Peart of the game

    5 years ago

    First: Sign Mel Rojas Jr for $7 million over 2 guaranteed years. Second a 2nd baseman like Starlin Castro or Asdrubal Cabrera. Third add lots of starting pitching and bullpen help

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  16. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    If Dalbec is here to stay, I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston looks to move Chavis in the offseason for bullpen help. Send him to Cleveland for a proven reliever and a AA / AAA reliever who is close. You just can’t have Chavis & Dalbec in the same lineup with their high K rates.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Sox add a couple of ‘cheap’ starters in the off season to one year deals. Maybe they bring back the 40 something Rich Hill on a 1 year, incentive-laden deal and sign a Cole Hamels type to a 1 year deal as well while Mata, Houck and Groome get more seasoning and eventually join the rotation in 2021 & 2022. It certainly looks like between Arroyo & Munoz, they have their utility guys locked up and Arroyo could even hold down second base until Downs is ready. If they can fix the bullpen and E-Rod and Sale come back, this is a competitive team next year for sure. Maybe not a title contender but a playoff team for sure.

    It will be really interesting to see what they do once Casas is ready. Maybe Dalbec moves to 3B and Raffy moves to DH as Casas should be an Anthony Rizzo type of player at 1B. There’s a lot to like about the future of this team, they just need to fix the bullpen and add some short term talent to the rotation.

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  17. giants51

    5 years ago

    Pitching is the root to success….

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  18. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    A couple of more options for Boston pitching next year could be Jake Odorizzi from Minnesota or to work out a trade with Colorado for Jon Gray. Rumors are that the Rockies aren’t thrilled about paying Gray $11M+ next year after arbitration so he should be available at a reasonable asking price. Perhaps Chavis + a pitching prospect could get it done. Chavis would be a monster in Colorado.

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  19. goldenmisfit

    5 years ago

    The chairman of Boston missed his calling, should have been a comedian. The farm system is a rack we all now any person returning from Tommy John surgery is never the same the first season they’re trying to cut payroll even more and he says he expects the team to be competitive next season. Someone needs to tell him this team is rebuilding when you rebuild it is a 2-3 year process. Yankees and Tampa are not going anywhere and it looks like Toronto is now the third best team in that division this is going to be a long very hard time if you are a Boston fan

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    • jimdevinmoriah

      5 years ago

      agree with(goldenmisfit) on Sale and his recovery from TJ. He will not be at his normal level of greatness until at least 2022. Also E-Rod is not a guarantee to even make it back to the bigs next year. His heart condition is not a simple fix. But sign Bauer for 40 million on a one year contract and add either Hill, Gibson, or Odorizzy on a one year deal as well. Sign Hernandez to play second for a couple of years till Downs is ready. Keep Dalbec at 1st and resign Mooreland to mentor him. resign Pillar and let Jr go elsewhere unless he is willing to sign a smaller contract to play CF. I love Benny but I think we have already seen the best he has to offer.

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      • aaronbj

        5 years ago

        Go ahead and sign injury prone Rich Hill! Your complaining about pitching injuries and want to sign Rich Hill who has spent more time on injured list then pitching!

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  20. Rsox

    5 years ago

    The unfortunate reality is that the Red Sox are not likely to contend next season.

    No Chris Sale til at least the All Star break (assuming there is one), and no idea what to expect from Eduardo Rodriguez. Nathan Eovaldi is the only starter penciled in so far, with maybe Tanner Houck. Martin Perez has been serviceable but not nearly as solid as he was in Minnesota last year and the rest of the pitching is thin.

    The lineup is decent though. J.D. Martinez is unlikely to opt-out after a terrible season. Bogaerts is solid, Devers continues to turn into a star, verdugo has been good, Dalbec looks good, and Benintendi was never healthy this season. We will need to decide what to do with JBJ, Verdugo and Benintendi can play CF so a corner Outfielder could be the way to go if Bradley leaves. A 2B could also be needed if they don’t use Chavis til Downs is ready

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  21. aaronbj

    5 years ago

    The Red Sox screwed their team and fans by trading Mookie Betts and David Price to the Dodgers! As a Dodgers Fan thank you for Mookie Betts this year and for a long time! Not sure about David Price since he opted out!

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  22. Cask

    5 years ago

    They got rid of their future and fielded a Double A team. Now they aspire to be “competitive” (like the Tampa Bay Rays, who will be dispatched by the Yankees in four games, then say, “we like our future prospects”).

    As usual, ownership vastly underestimated how much their fan base would tolerate, then finally said something when it was too late (it took a “heads up” from Pete Abraham in the Globe for them to realize just how upset the fans are with suffering through this train wreck)..

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  23. Cask

    5 years ago

    Someone should send J.D. Martinez a video of him swinging and missing at a low and away breaking ball for strike three. He’s only done it 1,000 times this year and needs someone to show it to him on film so he can adjust.

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  24. Occams_hairbrush

    5 years ago

    If youre going to have a disappointing season, this joke of a year is the one to have it in. They made a LOT of mistakes, but they still have some very good pieces. They should be in the mix, at least somewhat, next year.

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    • 4WSsince04

      5 years ago

      Curtis – yes, I totally agree….this was the year (37 percent of a year) to fix the problems….and we get to skip the other 63 percent of the suffering……lol

      I have enjoyed see Verdugo, Devers, Martin Perez, Houck, and some others so this has not been a total loss….

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