With 2020 starter Freddy Galvis now on the open market, the Reds are prioritize adding a starting shortstop this offseason, Jon Morosi of MLB.com tweets.
This isn’t surprising news regarding the Reds, whose incumbent shortstop, Jose Garcia, didn’t play above the High-A level before the team promoted him in late August. The 22-year-old Garcia then batted a weak .194/.206/.194 (3 wRC+) in 68 plate appearances. Garcia could still be the Reds’ long-term answer at the position, but he doesn’t seem worthy of landing the job in the near term. General manager Nick Krall even admitted earlier this month that short is a position the Reds are aiming to address.
Fortunately for Cincinnati, which is coming off its first playoff berth since 2013, it should be able to find a replacement for Garcia before next season. Aside from Galvis, free agency features ex-Red Didi Gregorius, Marcus Semien, Ha-Seong Kim and Andrelton Simmons. None of those players should come at exorbitant prices, but if the Reds are in the mood for a blockbuster trade, the Indians’ Francisco Lindor or the Rockies’ Trevor Story could be on their radar.
I bet they get Semien
a 1 year with an option for a 2nd year would be good for both parties. Say $1 3M and second year $15M option.
Lol yeah I’d love to see story get traded before Arenado and really see how much he hates the rockies
Love that.
Gregorius to CIN, Semien to CLE, Kim to TEX, and Simmons to NYY. Blue Jays are SOL.
who gets DJ if the Yankees get a SS then?
Mets or Nats.
If Semien is going to CLE, who gets Lindor?
The Dodgers… I hate to say it, but I see them as a fit.
Who gets Seager if the Dodgers get Lindor?
Seager goes to 2B or 3B
I heard he would ask for a trade if he’s not the starting shortstop.
I mean, Friedman can say no lol
I bet the Dodgers have no interest in trading for Lindor, but I do think they would give up the farm to get Ramirez. He’s one of the best 3B in the game and signed to a ridiculously team friendly deal. He’s exactly what the Dodgers need. He’ll have to be pried from the Indians though.
LAA will be players in the SS musical chairs game too.
Will they? I bet they will sign a 2b to a 1 year deal and then sign a SS to a megacontract next season when Pujols’ contract runs out. And forget the pitching again…
Other than Kim (who is an intriguing but unknown quantity) that scenario involves the Jays dodging so many bullets it would look like a scene from The Matrix.
Didi shunned reds last year. They made him a way better offer than what he got from Phili. No way he goes to cincy after that
unless they offer an even better one. that’s how money works.
No it’s not.
Cleveland is not signing Semien.
I agree. He’s too expensive for them even if they move Lindor.
If any mlb team goes bankrupt it will be the reds.they are an ineptly run organization.their gms act like congressmen(they love to spend other people’s money)and they aren’t smart enough to realize they aren’t a big city market.
Gray,suarez, Bradley and iglesias will help them rebuild their farm system.there will be glut of free agents coming on to the market to supplement their roster and hope to flip some of them at the trade deadline.this organization has to come to reality.
I pity the red’s fans what they have endured.
Rebuild their farm system for what? So in 5 years they can trade those guys away too? This whole system is a joke. Rebuild for 5 years so that if you are lucky, you might get to compete for 3 years before starting another rebuild. My Rockies might be awful more times than not, but at least I recognize the faces wearing the uniform and I don’t feel like I am cheering for laundry..
I mean as a cardinals fan if we can have 2 pirates that would be great
Rather have a World Series than recognize the same losing team year after year. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME
Good luck to you then.
PS – Herman Edwards never won a championship in his playing or coaching career.
He was still right, though.
yeah you have no idea what you are talking about.
Knowing what you’re talking about.. isn’t required on a baseball forum…
It is if you want to sound intelligent and not be ripped to shreds my guy. There’s stupid opinions and then there is ignorance. This guy is somehow both
Lots of blowhards floating around this site of late….
Reds owners are billionaires. Moose, castellanos, and votto won’t cause em to go BK. Regardless of fans or not. Also Dick Williams is related to the owners. He’s a son n law. So he was literally spending his own money.
They are the worse ran franchise in baseball though. That’s coming from a reds fan who’s looking for a new team
You’re not a Red’s fan…get off the bus- the next bandwagon leaves in April 2021.
And you definitely don’t know baseball !
I don’t get how someone can claim being a Reds fan then just say , ok I’m done now I’m a fan of X. In my opinion, being a true fan of a sports team you live and die with that organization. I’m born and raised on Reds baseball and Bengal football. All of the disappointment I have endured over the years , there’s no way I could wake up tomorrow and say ok I’m a Cub fan or a Met fan … or any other teams fan. I guess I’m just not built that way. Would winning a championship for your new team that you’ve become a fan of allegedly be as fulfilling as a championship for the team you’ve lived over the years? I can tell you that it’s been since 1990 when the Reds won a championship… I long for that feeling and experience again. I could never enjoy my “ new “ team that way
lol yeah sure
The rockies rebuild is coming sooner than you realize.
Gms today have to be very cost conscious to maintain their rosters.that is why theo is trying to slip outside by using the back door because he lost control of maintaining his roster
Rizzo of washington will be the next high profile gm to try to slip out the back door.
Well, Robert Kraft almost got in trouble trying to slip it in the backdoor…So, there’s that…
You obviously have no sense of the history of the Rockies as an organization. They have NEVER had a full scale rebuild. And even when they had minor rebuilds, they kept at least one star player. The owner of the Rockies is far more concerned with loyalty and building from within than with having a cobbled together winning franchise. That has been proven time and time again. If you don’t like that philosophy, there are 29 other teams for you to root for. Have a nice day.
Theo and Rizzo both won it all, so there is that.
Plus, I think Rizzo just signed an extension.
Gregorius will probably Go Back To The Yankees if The Phillies won’t pay him.
Trade Suarez and prospects for Story. Gives us money to go sign Semien and DJ. Move Moose back to 3rd. Let Bauer walk. We still have a nice rotation with Gray and Luis. Mahle should turn the corner this year with Lorezen joining the mix.
Rockies won’t want Suarez if they have Arenado. Reds won’t want to give up their 3B because that just opens up another hole after filling SS.
Let me preface this by saying, I don’t think a Story deal will happen, BUT IF IT DID, here is what I think it would take
Nick Senzel
Tejay Antone
Tyler Stephenson or Jonathan India
probably a low level lotto ticket pitcher (possibly Case Williams coming back)
I again stress that I don’t think it will happen and honestly as a Rockies fan I wouldn’t like that deal anyway. Senzel is too much like David Dahl, but he is pretty much the best the Reds have to offer as far as big league ready guys..
Story for those 4 players? You’d be lucky if it was Senzel and that low level prospect. Story in a walk year is not worth that much. Pipe dream trade proposal.
Reds would not give all that for one year of story
Suarez is on a dirt cheap deal compared to the production he provides. No way I trade him … he would cost a lot more but he signed a long very team friendly deal
Trade for Andrus. Texas will pay 50% of the contract
Texas would absolutely LOVE that. Of course the reality is that they would have to pay at least 80% of that contract to move him and likely even more.
The Reds should trade for Lindor.
It’s Trevor Bauer, the sequel. Who would the Reds be willing to trade, and what would Cleveland accept, for 1 year of Lindor plus his pending QO?
Actually a good point and one that’s always missed, the QO picks that teams miss out on trading a player before his last contract year is up. In a sense that’s compensation that they lose out on so it should be factored into the trade deal.
Reds/Indians Scenario: Reds are likely going to lose Bauer.. even with Bauer’s one year, high AAV contract being affordable to every team.. Therefore, Reds have at least two immediate and pressing needs.. Shortstop and SP.. The Reds have a young kid, Jose Israel Garcia, who was brought up to the big leagues (too early) who could become their SS of the future.. but, he clearly needs some “polish” at the MiLB level..
The Indians know that Lindor’s value is very high, but, with only a single year of club control remaining, he’s a rental with the opportunity to become a long term asset.. Just not yet.. Cleveland also knows that the depth of their starting pitching is the “gold mine” every club is looking for. It would be well within the purview of the Indians to couple a starting pitcher with Lindor to fully realize a ready now or near ready now return.
This sets the stage for:
Reds get Francisco Lindor SS, Aaron Civale SP, & one of Nick Sandlin RP or Eli Morgan P.
Indians get Nick Senzel OF/SS, Tyler Stephenson C, one of Jonathan India/Reece Hinds 3B’s and Austin Hendrick OF
Note: If the Reds are insistent on Zack Plesac instead of Civale..then names like Lodolo and Greene would need to be discussed..
The deal has a small chance of happening.. very small..
The Reds also have a fair amount of pitching depth. I’d be surprised if they’d be willing to move that many pieces. Probably more interested in just Lindor.
Red’s first trade
Gray to Houston for an underrated 5 tool player- Kyle tucker
Houston benefit is gray is a 2 year gap staring pitcher until verlander and greinke come off the books in 2022
Reds benefit is to have a 5 tool player- who will be in the organization for 10 years.long term value
they aren’t trading Tucker
Kyle Tucker is underrated? I think most people realize how good he is and how great he will be. Giving him up for Gray would be a mistake.
IMO Tucker is worth more than Gray….
Tucker is a 5 tool stud who will only get better and can be a franchise cornerstone for years while Gray has been up and down the coast few years mostly up but there have been years where he wasn’t as consistent plus he only pitches every 5th day whereas Tucker will play 140 plus games a season….just my opinion but while Gray is a good pitcher that has had more good years than bad years….Tucker is a building block on most franchises….
Past few years*
Astros will not give up Tucker for Gray especially if they lose Springer….which is very likely
Tucker is staying put. More likely the Reds could nab Correa plus an arm for Gray.
I thought that 3 wRC+ was a mistake but it actually wasn’t. I used to think I could muster up maybe a 5 or even 10 wRC+ over a full season of at bats but apparently I was out of my gourd.
The Reds were probably at Marcus Semien’s front door minute one to talk. I think he would be a nice fit.
Lindor to LA just doesnt make sense to me. I think Lindor has a better shot going to the Mets. Who knows though, alot can change at the winter meetings.
LA makes sense. The LA Angels that is…
Don’t forget houston’s gm(click) has possible put correa in play.click comes from the andrew friedman’s gm tree.wherea they trade a player 1 year too early to maximize their return versus 1 year too late where they are groveling for any return( see theo epstein).click is trying to maintain his roster for longevity.
No front office person in any sport has had a more profound influence than andrew friedman.
Do the Mets and Reds line up?
Mets trade:
Rosario SS
Nimmo lf rf
Matz
Cash $$
Reds trade:
Suarez
Gray
Stephenson
Senzel
Thoughts?
As an Indian fan, this deal is so lopsided in favor of the Mets it is not even funny.. The Reds would obviously say no.
This is not a realistic trade. Might as well offer them for free to the Mets.
Reds would never take that trade. Reds might not even take that package for just Gray, let alone the other three on top
That Mets trade scenario might be the dumbest thing I’ll read this week. Weed is clearly legal wherever you live. Idiot
As a Reds fan…a strong no, while biting my lip to keep from laughing…
Yeah, I think the Reds might just pass on that one.
@jim stem…..that trade is awful….it leans 85-15 in favor of the Mets…..for that to work the Mets would need to throw in Votto’s replacement Dominic Smith….but even then it’s not a good match….
The Reds have plenty of Outfield depth so Nimmo isn’t a must have….
Gray is far better than Matz
Senzel isn’t going anywhere….unless it’s for a Lindor type SS….
Reds are not going to pay big money. I see Semien or Simmons for them.
They’ll go after Story.
Reds should see what the Angels will offer for Sonny Gray.