The Yankees are set to acquire outfielder Greg Allen from the Padres. Allen was recently designated for assignment by San Diego. The Padres will receive left-handed reliever James Reeves in return, per Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter).
Allen, a San Diego native, was traded to the Padres last August as part of the Mike Clevinger deal. The speedy outfielder appeared in just one game for the Padres, drawing a pair of walks, stealing a base, and scoring a run. For his career, Allen holds a .239/.298/.343 line in 618 plate appearances across four years with the Indians and Padres.
Reeves is a 27-year-old southpaw drafted by the Yankees in the 10th round of the 2015 draft. He has a 2.30 ERA across five minor league seasons, functioning almost exclusively as a reliever. He logged a 1.79 ERA across 55 1/3 innings for Double-A Trenton in 2019 with a 27.7 percent strikeout rate, 9.4 percent walk rate, and 43 percent groundball rate.
Cashman finally does something…… Looks like a nice return for the Padres.
Guy is 27 and in AA
but a lefty with a live fastball that could be a emergency reliever during the season, might as well get something for a player they had no plans on using.
“Live fastball.” It seems to me the last Yankee castoff with a “live fastball” that Preller acquired was Bryan Mitchell. That worked out well.
Yaz was almost 29 when he made his debut, and he just made the All-MLB 2nd Team
Some teams like to keep a player down for no reason…Orioles should have tried him out at a much younger age but let him burn in the minors.
I think Yankees were doing it to Reeves as well he was working his way up to AA only for them to shuffle him between AAA->AA->A+ then back to AA and back again to A+ his stats looked fine nothing to say demotion about it.
Bingo
As a Yankee fan that’s how we got lucky with Voit and Gio. Nobody, even Cashman, knew they would be as good as they are now. Bautista on the Jays, Pena with the Rays, Ortiz with the Sox also come to mind.
That would be cool to create a list of DFA in their mid to late 20’s who became studs.
Are you talking Allen or Reeves?
Dude, the guy pitched exactly one game (1.2 innings) in AAA. His shuttle was between A+ and AA. And the Yanks thought so highly of him, they traded him for a 5th-6th outfielder.
They saw something in him that they didn’t like. And they had 5+ years to figure it out. Plus, he’ll be 28 in June.
SDHotDawg:
That is an argument without any validity. The history of MLB is loaded with really good players released or traded away for zip.
So the Mets saw something in Justin Turner they didn’t like? The A’s saw something in Max Muncy they didn’t like? I guess the Astro’s saw something in JD Martinez that they didn’t like either. The WSox must have seen something in Fernando Tatis Jr. that they didn’t like so they traded him away for James Shields.
SF traded Luis Castillo to the Marlins for Casey Mcgehee, and then the Marlins traded him to the Reds for Dan Straily. Apparently two teams didn’t like what they saw in Castillo.
As to his being 28, some guys develop later than others, and his prime years just might be 28 or 29 through 32 or 33. It would not be that unusual if that were the case.
No, your rebuttal has no validity. In each example, you’re comparing apples and oranges. For example, with your Tatis and Shields comp: Tatis hadn’t played a single game as a pro, and Shields was a highly regarded and proven ML pitcher.
On top of that, you’re implying that I said Reeves isn’t very good. I did not. What I inferred is that the Yankees don’t think he’s very good, as demonstrated by his minor league progress in their system, and the fact that they traded him for a fringe-ML outfielder.
I’ll be happy to debate you, but only if you work on your reading comprehension skills.
Mike Yastrzemski never earned a shot in the bigs. His minor league numbers as a whole were extremely underwhelming. And as a 14th round college pick—it’s not all that surprising he wasn’t given a shot. Unfortunate for the O’s but a real outlier.
Yankees have major bullpen depth. Why would they have ever called him up? AAA doesn’t even matter for development much anymore. Yankees lost a speedy OF in Gardner. Maybe they see a similar scrappiness in Allen.
Actually, AAA is important. I think AA is the most important step, but in AAA the competition includes a lot of players with big league experience, older veterans, and 4-A players.
And moses was 100 when he built the ark…
(Sarc)… I know abraham built the ark.
You know what my favorite fictional book is……
“Everything I know About COVID” by Dr. Anthony Fauci?
Age with pitchers isn’t as concerning as it is at other positions.
Is Cashman gearing up to trade an OFer? Tauchman, Frazier, or Florial?
He has no minor league options left. Maybe I’m reading too much into this but maybe one of Frazier or Tauchman is on the move
Your reading too much into this.
Just grabbing depth 3 months before the season starts just in case.
Normally I would agree but I’ve brushed Cashman moves off like this before and they turned into Voit and Urshela. Still you are probably right.
Sure. He might turn into a solid contributor like those guys. I think that’s always the hope with every pickup.
No way Cashman is counting on that though.
Think it more or less means thats gonna be the group for 2021
Outside of DJM I dont see much money allocated to the offence this offseason – Ofc if they can get a controlled Sp like Castillo/Cookie using Florial or Frazier then all bets off but I dont think this is any major pre-cursor
Greg Allen needs to hit one sacrifice fly in 2021 to continue the streak of hitting exactly one in every year of his career.
A stat we all didn’t know we needed.
Oh, we did need to know that!
Not the stat we want, but the one we deserve.
I love Sac fly’s!
The next Gio Urshella! Welcome home future MVP.
Yankee fans hoping but dont worry he will be after Judge strains a hamstring
I am not a Yankee fan 🙁
The Yankees are set to acquire recently what outfielder Greg Allen from the Padres?
Trying to hit lightning in a bottle again like they did with Urshella, which was a fluke in its own right.
And Voit. And Hicks.
Brett Gardner 2.0
More like Brett Gardner 0.0. But really, why?
Maybe they’ll go with taxi squads again? Speed…ish guy,plays multiple OF spots.
– 1.0
Allen is and has been a fringe player.
Yawn
Not the trade that I was hoping for. Maybe this speedster is a Gardy replacement?
Nice job AJ. At least got something for Allen. Stash him in EP
Yankees immediately assign Greg Allen to the Gio Urshela offseason hitting camp.
More likely, he’s an offseason placeholder until they finalize their roster, but also not impossible he sticks on the team as the 5th OFer and the one who can play CF to backup Hicks if Gardner doesn’t return. They did give up something for him, even if minor, indicating they may be planning to keep him.
Mike Tauchman
If you mean Tauchman can back up CF, I would have agreed when they first acquired him, but the Yankees have made it clear they don’t view Tauchman as an option in CF. He’s the back up to the back-up CFer.
Looks like we know the name of the next RP Padres turn into a bullpen wünder.
Exactly what I’m thinking too.
First thing I thought was Rothschild knows something we don’t… way to go AJ! Getting returns for Greg is nice; here’s hoping on another win/win trade!
Reeves has some damn good numbers in the minors. If that can translate to the big leagues, Reeves will be a productive reliever for the Padres.
Only reason he never got called up is because Yankees pen was stacked last couple of years. He could be very good. Nice return for a dfa’d player.
So, why didn’t he stick in AAA?
This is a good trade for both teams.
LHP James Reeves is a two inning RP with a propensity for the HBP at AA.
Switch hitting speedster OF Greg Allen may foretell the end of Brett Gardner as a NYY.
WORLD SERIES 2021!!!!! THE NEXT BARRY BONDS!!!
lmao, I love trolling Yankees.
Yeah you did a great job of it
– said no one
Actually he said it soo
Do we make litreacola
I don’t want a large Farva
Haven’t you spoken about wanting to work for a pro team? Trolling and being biased doesn’t help when your job is to objectively analyze players and transactions. Play to your passions and strengths instead of sinking to the levels of some on these boards.
Says the ranger fan who has never won a WS
A 6’3, 220lb 27 year old reliever with fantastic numbers in the minors for Greg Allen?
What?
That’s where I’m at. I’m sure someone will come along and say they traded from a place of abundance and so can afford this move easily but that doesn’t take anything from the fact that for now, from a pure value for value perspective, Reeves is the better piece.
Really? Allen has made it to the Show, Reeves is in AA, how does that make him the Better Piece?
The Yankees traded a Guy they’ve had 5 years out of college and he hasn’t made it to AAA. They expect fairly fast progression from College Pitchers. We know Reeves can dominate A and AA competition but they see something that keeps them from believing he can do so at the next Level.
I think the main issue here is that Allen hasn’t been able to produce and probably would have gotten released by the Padres this year, as he doesn’t have any minor league options left.
He was in AAA for a short time
Padres made out in this deal get a minor league guy the yanks toyed with in the minors by shifting him up/down while keeping good numbers.
at worst he flames out on majors level.
at best he becomes a closer
Nothing really lost there.
Lmao I follow the entire farm system and I have never heard of Reeves.. Gave up absolutely nothing and received nothing
AAA is not a good indicator: 1 G, 1.2 IP, 3 BB 1 SO 1H, 1ER, 5.40 ERA
BLIN7Y, I doubt the Yankees see something that keeps Reeves from the next level, it’s likely that Chapman and Britton have the lefty reliever role filled nicely for another couple of years.
I’m more genuinely surprised anyone was willing to trade for Greg Allen at all.
It would make sense to me for a team to claim him off waivers and pick him up if they didn’t have to give anything away, but I feel like his production is so replaceable that you could acquire something similar with a league minimum FA signing, so why trade away anyone?
Troutfishing……and a Lefty to boot!
Some people think every player, at any level, at any position that Preller acquires is an immediate All-Star.
Yeah, there’s no Preller cult.
This is the result of luxury tax penalties; specifically, the fact they have not kept up with the increase in salaries.
So, welcome to equitable distribution’s inevitable conclusion. Take away these ridiculous penalties that pay for the Rays, etc, and you’ll see the Yankees sign some players.
As frustrating as this is to watch them operate in an austerity budget offseason, I don’t blame them for not wanting to pay extra money on every dollar they spend. The MLBPA should learn from this.
their projected total commitments for next year is $174M while the top lux. threshold is over $200M. that’s plenty of space.
The latest I’ve seen is that after arbitration cases (raises) are awarded and the player benefits are added in, the Yankees project to be at $185M against the CBT limit of $210M. Signing DJL to a $20M/yr contract puts them at $205M, not enough room to add another SP that they desperately need unless they are willing to go over the CBT for the 3rd year in a row. This is why DJL has not been signed yet; they need to figure out what they want to do in regards to the CBT for 2021.
Darkside: That’s not enough to get who they want but I’m not referring to only the Yankees as they’re not the only ones affected by the LTT.
I disagree, and Im a LAD fan as well- I wish it was a hard cap tbh like football – Its hard to listen to folks cry about not having everything you need with 200 mill when some teams are spending a quarter of that
The lux tax penalties are not even that bad for first and second time offenders in all honesty – You pay about 11 mill on a 250 mill payroll…. thats not a killer if your willing to go 250 in the first place
They more serve the purpose as a backdrop for owners to use to maximize profits while keeping the peons at bay-
The real problem isnt the Max its the Min floor thats non-existent in baseball tho – But thats another time another place –
The MLBPA should for once look into whats best for the sport and not just there pocket books. If they do that we will have a good chance for progress moving forward
the cap isnt bad at first, but it compounds. its not like going over the cap is rampant and its not like the cap teams are always doing the best. a hard cap doesnt help when the smaller market teams dont want to spend to begin with.
@Yankee Clipper
It’s not as if the Yankees haven’t spent any money. A year ago they signed Cole to the largest contract ever given to a pitcher. No team should be in a position to snag a top two FA every offseason. As DarkSide pointed out the Yankees can win a WS without going over the threshold. What they need more than anything is better fortune on the injury side. Most seasons I don’t believe the penalties are a big factor for them however I’m sure they try to reset it every handful of years. The NFL shares TV revenue and has a salary cap which helps even the playing field. The NBA has a cap per player and a form of salary cap. Of the sports MLB has the least amount of control over salaries which are fully guaranteed. I don’t know how the Rays compete as it is I wouldn’t want to make the disparity even worse by eliminating the small amount of revenue sharing the small markets receive.
Seth, why should “no team” be in that position. It’s regulating who can hire and pay employees for their business? And that would be possible even with no LTT – it’s a self-regulating issue by the third year.
Yankee Clipper:
All you’re doing is arguing for the Yankees to be able to outspend other teams as much as they want. That would kill baseball. If the WS each year came down to a handful of wealthy teams, fans of teams without financial clout would get bored and move away in droves.
I might add also that the Yankees hit toward the CBT threshold last season was $237M. Imagine what they would spend if MLB removed the tax. It would be so boring if the Yankees, after signing Cole last season, signed Bauer, Realmuto, and Springer this season, and then signed Lindor, and anyone else they wanted, next season.
Not being able to sign anyone you want is tantamount to the kid who owns the ball, and when he doesn’t win, takes his ball and goes home. This is precisely why most fans root against the Yankees.
Well said Tad!
No, actually he misconstrued my point and assigned motive to my statement. That’s the complete opposite of well said. It’s conjecture and broad-stroking a discussion about the tax on teams with more money in favor of his feelings to try and shut down a point of view. I responded though…. you’re welcome.
No, I’m making my assertion from a macro view and using the Yankees as my case in point. Moreover, it was a response to prior posts about the slow movement of the offseason. This will only get worse. You may argue against this, but you cannot deny that salaries are increasing, Yankees cannot control that, and collusion is not legal. So, if they don’t sign top FA for market value, strikes will result, and the MLB ownership will be accused of reducing salaries through league-wide collusion.
Again, salaries are going up, although $11 million isn’t bad the first year they have a large number of FA that could already be signed if not for the LTT. Arguing against that by saying teams shouldn’t “buy” championships shows you haven’t watched baseball. Following it by stating the teams should be able to build like the Rays, who consequently get free money from major market teams to pay for their teams, is counterintuitive at best. Salary caps will not work either imho.
Hmm can see this as depth since the OF is made of glass or maybe cash is planning on moving tauchmen or some other prospects for a pitcher? I did don’t see them spending money on anyone except DJL since they don’t want to go over the luxury tax. And pretty much DJL resigning will leave no room for other FAs so if we want pitching I think it’ll be through trades to stay under the tax.
His brother Barry is even faster.
Hahaha, nice.
Reeves is an old prospect but he still looks semi promising. The Padres might also be the best team in the league when it comes to unearthing relievers out of nowhere so he might still be something. Getting him for a DFA’d player looks good.
I was expecting nothing in return when SD had to DFA Allen so even getting someone who can be organizational relief depth is a solid return.
He’s arguably not even a “prospect” anymore at age 27, so I’m not expecting anything out of him, but based on what he’s done so far in AA I think they have a better chance at him actually contributing something at some point than they would with younger lotto ticket who has less of a track record in the minors.
You don’t even need to worry about his AAA numbers. That was all of 1.2 innings.
Their next Yates
Anyone else’s first thoughts go to Allen Craig when they read the headline?
actually I read it too quickly and was wondering why the yankees traded for gregg allman.
Wrenching move.
This must spell the end of Gardner or perhaps a Tauchman trade.
Or it’s just a depth move. Somebody’s gotta play for Scranton. The world needs ditch diggers
When I looked at this thread I thought that was an image of Lindor. I screamed out that the Yanks traded for Lindor. Alas, I was wrong. That would have been as crazy as seeing a shirtless man in a horned helmet standing in the Capitol building chambers. Silly me.
We’re getting sketchy news over here – WTF is going on?
Dewey defeats Truman
America has gone into the toilet. Completely.
I’m sitting back watching with beer and popcorn in hand from the frozen Canadian prairies.
What a gong show ‘Murcia!
not too far from the usual to be honest
I like and understand the reason for using the new K and Walk rate stats… But I have no idea if 27% is good or not for K rate. At least with K/9 I knew that 8+ was good and 11+ was outstanding, but I have no bearing on the new stats.
RedFraggle:
Per BBRef, league average SO% is 22.1. It seems that 9.0 So/9 translates to a SO% of 27.5%.
Thanks so much!
Reeves K rate in the minors is 10.7/9. He also walks 3.4 guys per 9.
SDHotDawg:
And by comparison to probably the best pitcher in baseball, Jacob deGrom, who has a career K rate of 10.9 per 9 and a BB rate of 2.2 per 9.
Not sure what Reeves’ BB% is. deGrom’s is 6.1% and MLB average is 8.2%.
Clearly Reeves has SO stuff, while his walk rate does not seem to be that much of a red flag.
Yes, it looks good. But you can’t translate minor league stats to the big leagues.
Reeves’ K% in the minors is 29.24%. His BB% is 9.27%.
deGrom’s K% is 29.2%. ML average is 21.6%.
Again, minor league stats are fun to look at, but they are not comparable to major league numbers.
MLB average was 23.4% in 2020.
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&…
Per bbref, the average is 21.6%. That’s not just 2020, which was only a 60 game season. Lots of anomalies. But, thanks for the info.
If the season is played under some sort of amended rules that allow for extra active players on the roster, then I like this move- bare minimum this is a guy who can pinch run and play some outfield defense. And, he was enough of a prospect to reasonably hope he ends up being something more.
Lmao I follow the entire farm system and I have never heard of Reeves.. Gave up absolutely nothing and received nothing
A trade is brewing for the Yankees..
Word series bound …
Spelling bee champions for sure.
Does this mean no Gardner for 2021?
This dude rakes and hits bombs.
The Padres will turn him into an all-star closer. That said, I hope the re-sign Rosenthal.
His minor league stats are very good. I can’t believe the Yanks let him go. But, why only one game in AAA?
I thought mlbtr was turning into the “future reading baseball predictor” site? What is his Sierra and strike out percentage? I hope you guys arent determining this pitchers greatness based on his era and wins.
Nothing to see here, move along….
Hal needs his DNA checked.
Nice little return for the Padres here. Not like the kid is amazing, but decent #’s in the minors… he’s likely only a bullpen piece in the event they need him. Nice move getting something out of nothing
great- whatever. This is only news b/c nothing else is going on. This is very typical though of cashman b/c there is little downside. The chance of either guy making a difference is low so if Allen is decent or even tauchman light he will hailed a genius.
So who is paying attention to the fact that after Cole the rotation still reeks of the the O’s or Royals, or that the BP which he spends a fortune on has serious holes, or that we still have no defensive SS, lefty bats, and the redundancy of 5 or 6 guys who basically hit the ball 500 ft or don’t hit it all.
The first thing that occurred to me at this news was: What do the Yankees need more — pitching, or another outfielder to add to the eight they already have?
Judge, Stanton, Hicks, Frazier, Tauchman, Florial, Wade, Andujar … and Allen makes nine.
I sure hope this isn’t a sign that, instead of spending money for a great rotation option like Sugano, Cashman is loading up on outfielders in preparation for a trade of Frazier in return for a mid-rotation arm, because Hal has him on a financial leash.
Yankees suck and will for at least 10
Year. Let’s just get prepared for it.