While Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Mets have reached an agreement with right-hander Trevor Bauer, the top free agent on the board, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com offers different information, tweeting that the two sides do not have a deal yet. Indeed, agent Rachel Luba suggested on Twitter that there is not a contract in place.
While Bauer does not appear to be on his way to New York at this juncture, the team is said to be one of the two finalists for the reigning National League Cy Young winner. The Dodgers are also vying for the 30-year-old Bauer, who starred with the Reds last season and entered the winter as MLBTR’s top-ranked free agent. It’s unclear what the Dodgers are willing to offer Bauer, but the Mets are reportedly in the three-year, $100MM range and considered the favorites to sign him. That deal would be one of the richest ever given to a player on an annual basis, but it would fall short of Yankees ace Gerrit Cole’s record of $36MM per season.
If he does go to the Mets, Bauer would be the big-splash signing their fans were expecting when deep-pocketed owner Steve Cohen took over the club earlier this offseason. The Cohen-led Mets have made some aggressive moves on his watch (the Francisco Lindor/Carlos Carrasco trade and the signings of James McCann and Trevor May, to name some), but they’ve yet to land an elite-tier free agent. That may change soon, though.
Douggy44
Scariest rotation to recent memory…
Loling @ you
Still won’t win a ring
whynot 2
We shall see
amanda_hugandkiss
Now he can tip back a few with Gerrit anytime!
alproof
What are you, a jealous stinking Yankee?
MoRivera 1999
You must be new here. Tatsumaki is hardly a Yankee fan, let alone a Yankee.
padam
No you didn’t.
joeyrocafella
Hater
Ducky Buckin Fent
Little early to say that, @tatsumaki.
oldmansteve
Maybe Douggy44 can only remember the last 4 months so he may in fact be correct.
PoloGrounds62
Jealous?
DarkSide830
Dodgers is better imo
MetsFan22
Lol
DarkSide830
good comeback. cant imagine why a team with Tony Gonsolin and Dustin May having to probably battle for a spot woulf have any claim to being the best in the sport. smh.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Dodgers certainly have the potential to have the best rotation.
Key word is potential. May and Gonsolin have promise but too small of a sample size. May barely more than 100 innings pitched counting playoffs. Gonsolin less than 100 innings pitched counting playoffs. May has the better stuff but for a guy with so much stuff his stuff needs to miss more bats. Gonsolin was great in the much shortened regular season in 2020, but was absolutely lit up in the playoffs. Gave up 4 HRs in 9 innings pitched. Both will be on innings pitched limits so limited in what they can give you as a starter over the entire season and playoffs. Urias has never pitched more than 80 innings in the regular season. Last year would have been his first season without innings limitation but that became the shortened season. Add Price to the mix with a declining arm and potential rust. Will need to see if Kershaw can go the full season without breaking down and see if 2020 was a small sample size phenomenon or sustainable. Not sure how anyone would label the Dodger staff as better (at least with decisive confidence) than the Mets if indeed they got Bauer and Syndergaard is healthy. Padres rotation is likely a slight notch better than the Dodgers’ rotation.
Hudson6
Depending on injuries, regression, more innings and a million other things any 1 of several rotations could be the best in baseball. Mets are one of them.
Orel Saxhiser
You conveniently left out Walker Buehler, who has been lights-out in October. I’ll take him over Bauer or any Padres starter.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I left Buehler off because I’m not concerned about him at all. The blister is probably his biggest concern. He could be even more dominant with the stuff that he has. But he is one starter and not the entire rotation.
elscorchot
It’s true
Ducky Buckin Fent
Remember that great Yankees rotation circa spring of 2020?
Cole, Sevi, Paxton, Tanaka, Happ. Pretty sweet starting staff, man.
Things happen, man. There’s paper & then there’s whom you really have throwing yet in October (or during the regular season, even). Oftentimes those are not the same.
Either rotation becomes tremendous with the addition of Trevor Bauer. On paper – of course.
Buzz13
Gonsolin and May are still unproven. Neither has reached 100 innings in the majors so how good they become depends on how successful they are at adjusting after hitters around the league adjust to them. LOT’S of potential though.. If the Mets sign Bauer I think it’s safe to say the Mets would have the best rotation in baseball…..on paper anyway, Dodgers could be a close second, Once Syndergaard gets back sometime in June they’ll have three guys who can be aces on many teams followed by Carrasco and Stroman, and they also have the kid Peterson who looked pretty damn good last season, and Lucchesi who’s a solid back of the rotation guy. By signing Bauer (or even if they end up with someone like Odorizzi) the Mets will have created a lot of starting pitching depth this off-season and any baseball fan knows how important that is in a 162 game season…..or maybe 154 this year. lol
padam
I’m a Mets fan and I’d agree with that. Walker is outstanding, and only going to get better.
MikeD26
Dodgers still have the better team, but the starting rotation is not even close to the one from the Mets and Padres.
DODGER JR
May and Gossolin have won something the Yankees or Mets haven’t won in a long time. That would be a WORLD SERIES RING. Who cares who supposedly has the best rotation in baseball. The proof will come in October in the playoffs and WS. Atlanta had an awesome rotation last year but gagged in the NLCS. There are a lot of teams with the potential to have scary rotations but the regular season means s&&t.
MikeD26
If the mets sign bauer *
bravesfan88
Small sample size be darned, Dustin May has some excellent stuff, and the young man knows how to get hitters out at the ML level.
May is going to be a stud for the Dodgers for several years to come. Now, because of that small sample size, we don’t yet know exactly how good he might become, but it’s easy to tell May has the arsenal, the command, and the control to become an easy #2/#3 starter for any contender..He might never become a bonafide ace, but the Dodgers don’t really need him to with Clayton Kershaw and Walker Buehler already being stud aces themselves..
I’m not nearly as bullish on Gonsolin, but he’s shown no real big warning signs why he couldn’t become a contending team’s #4 or #5. He has some upside to be an excellent number three, but most likely he will end up being a quality starter at the backend of the Dodgers rotation..
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
Padres
oldmansteve
When Thor’s back I’d say the Mets rotation is Top in the NL. Without him I’d say it’s 3rd behind the Dodgers and Padres.
andremets
I’m not sure the Padres have a true TOR #1starter. Darkish is more a #2 in book. Clevinger was a 1 before he got hurt. Paddock has #1 potential. Mush rove is a #3 or #4 at best.
DarkSide830
can we really say with confidence that Thor pushes the needle that far at this point? a creative option would be to make him a Hader type.
dan55
andremets – You can’t even spell 3 of our starters names correctly.
DodgerNation
I mean he’s already got the hair for it why no go all in??
genre99
Snell is a Padre
oldmansteve
I think a rotation with David Peterson and Lucchessi battle for the 5 spot is a lot worse than Gonsolin and May. And Padres have no weakness right now, and when Clevingers back it will for either Musgrove or Paddock out. Thats crazy good depth.
VonPurpleHayes
@Steve Thor’s a bit overrated IMO. And a huge health risk. Doesn’t matter the Mets rotation is scary with or without him.
Michaelchavez22
Until he learns how to pitch, Thor is a gloried #4. He might be better off the the pen.
Spare Tire Dixon
Darvish was a Cy Young contender last year.
oldmansteve
Syndergaard has a career 3.31 ERA and almost a 10 k/9 during that time. His ERA would be lower if not for an unlucky 2019. I don’t know where this, “Syndergaard is overrated” nonsense is coming from.
AHH-Rox
I like Mush Rove much better than his political uncle Karl.
Cubsforever22
Darvish almost won the cy young last year and he’s been virtually unhittable the last season and a half. He’s a #1
alexmiller6677
are we forgetting Snell? Padres when they are all healthy are the best rotation in baseball, Snell, Darvish, Clevinger, Lament and Paddock.
Dodgers are #2 in my opinion followed closely now by the Mets, after that i’d say Toronto and the Indians because the Indians always make diamonds out of turds, and then the White Sox, Nats, Atlanta
so; 1: Padres
2. Dodgers
3: Mets
4. Toronto
5: Indians
6: White Sox
7: Nats
8: Atlanta
(a humble Red Sox fan who knows his starting pitching staff is hot garbage)
elscorchot
*Darvish
VonPurpleHayes
@Steve Nebraska because his numbers have gotten worse every year. It’s not like it was one off-year. It’s a steady drop. Now the good news is, he’s still young, and he stills throws hard. So there’s a lot of hype there, but I see him trending down. Career numbers mean less to me than trends. At the same time, Syndergaard is slated to be a #3 or #4 on this Mets rotation. That’s a very good 3-4 guy. I just don’t consider him the 1b to deGrom’s 1a.
DarkSide830
expect his most recent two years were a mediocre 2019 and a lost 2020. obviously the rest counts for something but its not safe to assume he’ll pitch near his career average again.
DarkSide830
you like the Jays *rotation?*
dan55
I think the Syndergaard hate is a little much, but to be fair, he is coming off of TJS and had the worst year of his career in 2019. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit this year. He is still a great pitcher, but he just needs some time to get the rust off.
think it thru
Bauer to the NYM lends itself to one of the best rotations ever at least on paper with 4 #1’s and a strong #2 when NS returns mid season. Of course on paper is not the same as real life but there’s no denying the potential.
Phantom X
He’s overrated, but Bauer is an ace. Let that sink in. People, I swear.
debubba
look closer at Snell’s numbers. He is not even a top 20 pitcher. Good starters go more than five innings (not avg 4.6) a game and do not have struggles the third time through the order.
Hudson6
@ think it thru
Carrasco and Stroman are not #1 starters.
Chin Music
How did he forget snell? Lol
jediknight
Thor isn’t over-rated, but, he is a huge question mark at this juncture, due to his injuries. Anything he gives you this year is a bonus.
Joe Momma
You’ll see Syndergaard late summer the earliest, and that’s if he has no set backs. I don’t think you can really expect much from him this season. I wouldn’t be shocked if they use him out of the pen coming back to get his workload up. Honestly probably would be better for the entire staff.
smuzqwpdmx
I’m a Blue Jays fan, but they don’t belong within a million miles of any list of top starting rotations in MLB. Top lineups, sure.
jolink65
@andremets you conveniently left out Dinelson Lamet, who is a legit stud and would be a #1 pitcher on several teams. He’s only going to get better too.
Taejonguy
that was my thought, DarkSide… the Jays need at least one more quality pitcher to have an above average staff. right now it is likely below average.
No1metsfan69
Yes he does push the needle. He’s a starter & will remain a starter.
Buzz13
I don’t agree as far as the Padres. They have weakness and plenty of question marks in their starting rotation,
Darvish’s age and history of injuries are a big concern, not to mention that other than 12 starts in 2020 and two season early in his career his numbers have been average. The Padres will be lucky to get 150 inning out of him.,
Is Lamet a late boomer or was he a beneficiary of a pandemic shortened season?
Paddack had a good rookie year, did nothing last season. Jury is still out on him.
The trade for Musgrove is confusing because Lucchesi is just as good or better than him. Musgrove is a #5 starter, maybe a #4 on a bad team.
Clevinger will miss all of 2021.
So Snell is the ace of this staff and even he only has one great year with the rest of the years being just average., He also has never reached 200 innings, I know that partially has to do with the way the Rays handle their starters though.
Don’t sell Peterson short. He may and up being better than May and Gonsolin. When the Mets sign one more starter they’ll have incredible depth. They’ll have 7 starters who have had success in the majors……8 if you count Lugo.
bkbkbkbk
Darvish was the best pitcher not named Bieber last year
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
Snellzilla?
royhobbs7
Clevinger is not pitching this year!
Lurking
Now you’re counting pitchers out for 2021, for best rotation in 2021?
DODGER JR
Snell isn’t a top #1 starting pitcher?
Buzz13
Actually Bauer was better but nevertheless, it was only in 12 starts. Let’s see if Darvish can make it through June without missing the rest of the season because of an injury.
Lurking
No? Snell is closer to a 3 than a #1
Buzz13
Snell can be a #1 if he can get back to his 2018 form. Otherwise his stats suggest that his career 3.88 era (minus the 2017 season) makes him more of a #3 starter. One of the problems with baseball today is that players get too much credit for one to two above average seasons. What makes a player great is consistently playing better than his peers, having far more above average seasons than average or below average. Potential, a 98 mph fastball, or a high spin rate doesn’t make a pitcher great, getting it done on the field does.
Hudson6
Blake Snell has a lifetime ERA of 3.24 and 648k in 556 innings. That looks like a #1 starter to me.
Pads Fans
So was Lamet.
C-Daddy
Jays fan here: our rotation as currently constructed is middle of the pack at best.
Pads Fans
Bauer is not an Ace. An Ace has consistent seasons in the top 10 in the league. Bauer is nothing if not inconsistent. Two seasons in the top 20 in baseball and his only great season was just 12 starts. The number of pitchers that have had better 12 start stretches that are not considered an Ace in just this century is huge. I found 257 times when pitchers that had not started an opening day had better 12 start stretches just since 2001.
Pads Fans
I agree that Snell is not an Ace. He is a solid #2 or #3. Padres still have two pitchers that are Ace material. Darvish and Lamet.
Alex Bregman
You sir are an idiot
PutPeteinthehall
Last 162 games played Darvish was a number 1. Was probably the Cy Young winner if had not tailed off last few starts in 2020. The man throws eight pitches. If his arm is healthy and the trash cans do not have lids his games are definitely worth watching.
NY_Yankee
I will go with the Braves ( Maddox, Glavine and Smoltz). But despite that all they won was one title.
DarkSide830
i was going to say the same but im assuming recent is past decade ish
uncle1sock
80 win team
Oxford Karma
Scherzer Strasburg Corbin
Scherzer Verlander Price
Verlander cole greinke
Kershaw greinke Ryu
If and when syndergaard comes back, then it’d be comparable.
Pads Fans
Darvish Lamet Snell. – 2 CY candidates from last season.
jjd002
Literally 2 seasons ago there was a better staff….
Enrico Pallazzo
Maybe if they all stay healthy. Each of those guys is injured like 60% of the time though
Astros2017&22Champs
Is your memory 2 years?I know you guys hate us but the 2018 astros rotation rivals anyone. Verlander. Cole. Keuchel. Morton. McCullers. And mchugh. The phillies with halladay lee hamels and oswalt was also epic. If the mets get bauer thats a heck of a rotation but not even close to these 2 recent rotations
maxgjr
Roy Halladay
Cliff Lee
Cole Hamels
Roy Oswalt
jjd002
Or Oswald, Clemens, and Petitte
jjd002
*Oswalt
Tom1968
Poor joe blanton gets no respect.
Joe Momma
I don’t know about that. Scherzer and company had a pretty nasty run, Verlander-Cole probably were the most dominant 1-2 punch in a while.
DeGrom is still the best pitcher in baseball, but I don’t look at Bauer as an ace. Too inconsistent. I could be totally wrong and he could easily become that ace by proving last year was just a shortened sample size but until he does that it’s Jake and company in my eyes. Doesn’t mean it’s not a great rotation though.
Rsox
Scariest rotation in recent memory was Halladay/Hamels/Lee/Oswalt and they didn’t win a ring
VonPurpleHayes
No ring. 102 wins in the regular season though. Proving that the best team doesn’t always win, and that the playoffs will always have a level of luck and excitement.
giant
Don’t think Bauer deserves 33mil a year …he’s had 2 good seasons in his career
86KMets
Actually if you look at his career stats Bauer had a real good year in 2018 (24) starts. And then last years 11 starts. That’s it. The other 4 or 5 years he has averaged about a 4.30 ERA. So based on 35 starts (about a years worth) he is an Ace who can demand 35 million? Come on
amanda_hugandkiss
Scarier than Verlander, Cole, Greinke
txman22
As long as it’s not the uniform that turns all stars into mediocre players as is their history.
oleosmirf
Need someone else to confirm though. Bob isn’t exactly known for his accuracy.
oldmansteve
Do these false reportings result in a twitter ban for spreading false information?
Deleted Userrr
No. Should tho
mlb9229
I think my favorite part of her “retweet” thread is the guy in the first comment trying to lure them to NY with bagels
Loling @ you
Bauer is a foodie, might work. Dude ate a dozen diddy riese cookies in one sitting
tedtheodorelogan
Balkin’ Bob strikes again.
Black Ace57
Bob is almost 100% accurate. Whatever he says the exact opposite happens.
yanks02026
Mark F is saying there’ s no deal
terry g
If it’s 3/100, I think it’s too much.
Sideline Redwine
Completely agree. Bauer had a great year last year–over sixty games. He had one other very good year, otherwise a lot of hype. He could emerge and become consistently great…or he could follow his history. Expensive proposition, especially when the Mets have a strong rotation already.
phenomenalajs
3/100M would be reasonable compared to what he was seeking or even what was expected. As a Mets’ fan, I could live with three years. I thought he was seeking twice that.
sf giants mania
WOWWWW
Yankee Clipper
It’s Nightengale, wait until it’s been verified… Feinsand usually doesn’t agree when it’s this early. Maybe eventually, but I’d be cautious.
Black Ace57
Boob struck again
Yankee Clipper
Ugh, The Boob
dylan1g
twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1357485638484910084
Bob is wrong.
LordD99
Or just early. I think the Mets are the very highly likely destination, but I wouldn’t put it past Nightingale to make the claim there’s a deal before there is a deal so he can take credit. In other words, he’s playing a game.
dylan1g
That’s a fancier way of saying that Bob is wrong.
Loling @ you
Bob is a meme at this point. Why do people follow him?
Yankee Clipper
Because, like many in this epoch, he claims to know what he’s doing and that’s apparently all one needs
luckasred10
Bomb
davidk1979
Jumping the gun it’s Nightengale
yanks2323
He’s terrible, mostly wrong and Heyman, Fiensand or Rosanthal scoops him
EliMorganFanClub
Bauer will deny until he can make a YouTube video about it
LABeachguy
Exactly, Bauer is getting very annoying. I appreciate his opinion on things. But he makes everything about himself and tries to control it all. Really think he cares more about marketing himself and his image than winning a World Series.
Vizionaire
are you happy, arte, with your angels team? shame on you!
SoCalADRL
As an angels fan I’m not surprised by this teams incompetency at this point. If he can’t swing a bat, Arte doesn’t want him.
LordD99
Not an Angels fan, but that is my perception.
Ohtani-san
Being an angels fan is exhausting
The North
Second
johnrealtime
*pointing * haha
LordD99
Or 12th.
Monkey’s Uncle
And it’s worth…
(Dr. Evil voice)
… one million dollars!
Cambio
deGrom, Bauer, Carrasco, Stroman, (Syndergaard), Lucchesi, Peterson.
Wow!
bobbyvwannabe
Sick depth for a change.
bobbyvwannabe
I just read it’s not official but welcome to New York nonetheless
leon willis
Love it.
Cubsforever22
Most likely it at least appears very likely that he signs with them and old bob trying to be first again lol.
DarkSide830
id imagine the Dodgers were just trying to drive up the price. they don’t need him.
jimmyduz0523
and why would they drive up the price?? whats the benefit for doing that?? L.A. only could do a 1 or 2 year deal for him, there’s noway the Dodgers paying him long-term with the rest of the guys they have to pay. So driving up… Not buying it.
DarkSide830
to make the Mets spend more? I dont see why you wouldn’t want to do that if you can. why is a team having more financial flexibility a good thing.
Lurking
Dodgers could afford a 3 year deal easily without impacting any of their major guys, except Seager. Bellinger+Buehler are still 4 years from FA
tedtheodorelogan
Two top of the rotation like seasons in his career, and last year was barely more than a third of a season. This guy doesn’t have the track record to justify whatever the contract ends up being.
miggy4prez
Don’t quit your day job
Mrtwotone
Shocker
DarkSide830
Brantley to the Jays!
Monkey’s Uncle
Dewey defeats Truman!
DarkSide830
well played sir
flyingblindsquirrel
And the next Miss Universe is ….
…. MISS COLUMBIA!!!
Technically correct
For Best Picture….
….La La Land!
Ronk325
If Nightengale is the only person saying it that’s a clear sign that it’s not accurate
Bluemarlin528
I hope he pitches well in New York or they will eat him alive.
DarkSide830
hope he pitches bad so they eat him alive
HalosHeavenJJ
the fans are going to be great to him after a bad start and he handles criticism and social media so well.
DarkSide830
you should do stand up.
miggy4prez
He handles social media just fine. He’s not scared. Don’t like him personally any more than most of these commenters but credit where credit is due. He’s not scared of NYC. The 7 line army will love him
flyingblindsquirrel
Over/under for when the Mets obviously regret this decision is 5 1/2 months.
miggy4prez
R u kidding? Bauer & his bloody Twitter fingers are tailor-made for our 2021 hyper-online beef war hellscape of a world. He’ll thrive
miggy4prez
Steve Cohen, apparently, is not LOL
Forgetaboutit
If this is true, the Dodgers, Padres and Mets will be something to watch finally. Bauer against Cole must see!
bobtillman
Nightengale has a source inside the New York clubhouse named “Deep Met”.
BadBenjamin
That was awesome
cysoxsale
I hope he busts. Jerk. My team will never try.
fathead0507
Still won’t score enough.. hence why degrom avg 10 wins a yr ..
Ted
Not all of their starters get DeGrom-level run support. They have a few decent bats.
DarkSide830
do their hitters not try when DeGrom is pitching?
miggy4prez
You must have forgotten about Lindor already…dom smith breakout last year…Alonso positive regression coming…everyone forgets about conforto…Underrated lineup IMO
georgebell 2
Go Padres!
mrdave
Nightengale can’t be considered a source of actual information at this point.
dan55
Wow. The Mets are going to have the best rotation in baseball this year. Degrom, Bauer, Carrasco, Syndergaard and Stroman is pretty dangerous. It’ll be interesting to see how other NL teams respond.
Sideline Redwine
Potentially the best, gotta plays the games. Injuries, bad years, slumps…a lot can happen.
tom brunanskys black sock
Nightingale is he biggest hack outside of the hardware store. Why is his drivel even reported?
Forgetaboutit
The Dodgers still might have a shot to get him. If the Mets had him ESPN would have been all over it!
Mjshof
@Forget
I think he wants a go to LAD and believe the only holdup is that they are only offering a two year deal while NYM are offering three and he wants four. It’ll be interesting to see if those thoughts are accurate and what happens.
Assuming above is correct and I’m 60/40 he will take a 2yr LAD deal
itstimefordodgersbaseball
Yuck
Orel Saxhiser
The deal is contingent on a thorough examination of Bauer’s dick pics.
whynot 2
You are volunteering too examine them?
tom brunanskys black sock
Oh, if I could reach into the belly of a yak and rip out its heart…
Orel Saxhiser
Nah, that is a Mets specialty. They have promised to do better in that area.
Whodoirootfor
One of them gonna get the dreaded tj
Forgetaboutit
Bauer is a true number two behind Kershaw and Degrom. Bauer is an LA guy but if the money is sweeter in NY who knows?
Orel Saxhiser
He would also be behind Buehler in LA. I’ll be thankful if the Dodgers pass.
mlbdodgerfan2015
He could also be the best out of the three. Point being I’d take Buehler, Bauer and Kershaw as my top 3 with a Price and Urias as #4 and #5. May as your #6, and Gonsolin up to fill in for injuries. That gives you a dominant top 3 and depth.
DarkSide830
Id take Buehler or Carrasco over him easily
Cap & Crunch
Its forget Walker Buehler day, didnt you get the memo-
I sure hope we pass
qbert1996
Not trusting any info that Nightengale reports 1st.
Rangers29
ITS HAPPENING!!!
The North
Wonder who the Jays got in return for Lariano?
For Love of the Game
Yeah, that “aggressive” move for “Francisco Liriano.” Connor, I assume you meant Francisco Lindor?
bluejaysforever
Met’s will have the best rotation in baseball!
Joe It All
If a tree falls in the forest and Bob Nightengale is there to report it, did it really happen?
angels1961
Did halos get Hill yet?
tom brunanskys black sock
Glenallen?
DarkSide830
bunker?
miggy4prez
Imagine thinking Rich Hill is a solution to your problems
dirkg
Imagine thinking spending $30m a year on Trevor Bauer will solve yours
Forgetaboutit
Newsday reporting Mets have offered Bauer 3/100 and have basically said take it or leave it. Dodgers can still make a better offer knowing that old man river Kershaw can’t do it alone.
Orel Saxhiser
Have you forgotten Buehler’s post-season stats?
DarkSide830
Old man Kershaw, who is, what, 33? please. lets get off the Kershaw regression bamdwagon.
Twizted
*Lindor
But very interested in this move, if it happens.
Spare Tire Dixon
I’m fascinated to see what–if anything–the Braves plan on doing here. One game away from the World Series last year. AA is either the most patient man on earth or they have no real plan at this point.
dan55
I think the Braves should trade Austin Riley + for Eugenio Suarez, then go and re-sign Ozuna to play left. That should fix their offense. They are definitely a step behind the Mets though. If they don’t do anything, they will be in a tough battle with the Nats to finish in second.
Orel Saxhiser
What is wrong with patience? The Dodgers were patient last winter and came away with Mookie Betts. The Braves will have Soroka, Morton and Smyly added to their rotation, along with Anderson from Day 1.
dan55
Nothing wrong with patience, but the Braves need to do something. Their firm hold on the NL East was already starting to slip once the Mets brought in Lindor and Carrasco, and by signing Bauer the Mets have leapfrogged over the Braves. Plus, the Nationals have made some good moves this offseason. I’m not nearly as convinced that the Braves will do well this year as I was at the start of the offseason.
My ranking of the NL:
1 Dodgers
1 Padres
1 Mets
4 Braves
5 Nationals
Whodoirootfor
Dude u dumb as hell lindor to mutts doesn’t do anything to make braves slip. Especially when degrom or
Bauer will
Blow their arm out this year
Astros2017&22Champs
You do realize their are ramifications for the mets making these moves right? Building the core of your team through trades and free agency is a risky game. Lindor will cost 300 million +. Bauer will be expensive and is a headcase. The braves are a well run team with a good farm. If they didn’t lose their ace last year they might of won it all
Mjshof
@astros2017
You’re right- the Braves are more sustainable or projectable as far as longterm success goes. True also is that the Mets roster gets pretty expensive pretty soon if they want to keep Lindor, Thor and Conforto much less get a true CF.
Cohen has only owned the Mets for a very short time. He can’t fix the longterm aspects with any small number of current moves. He stated that his timeline is to win a WS in 3 to 5 years. Keep that goal in mind and judge longterm effectiveness against it.
At the same time look at current moves and consider that he is also being opportunistic to pickup Lindor for a pretty good price. There’s nothing wrong with making a current move too.
The trade capital in the Lindor deal didn’t mortgage the future tremendously and may give them inside track to signing Lindor in FA. Remember Lindor is by far the youngest player in the upcoming FA class. Signing him is the longterm move And probably the best FA to matchup with his stated 3-5 year window. Lindor will be in his prime for all of that timeframe.
The guy I wanted him to sign was Kim, but SD got him. Kim is only 25 and only cost $$ (not prospects) with what turned out to be a reasonable AAV and a contract that lines up with the 3-5 year window. They could play him in MI or use him as a trade chip, but got bested by SD.
Phantom X
I’d swap the Nats for the Cards. Just my opinion, though.
chisox14
If Nightengale gets this wrong, he should get a new line of work. Maybe as a speech therapist.
Black Ace57
He got it wrong. again lol
Armaments216
Bauer and Mets: we were about to announce something, but why let halftime on Sunday go to waste?
Orel Saxhiser
Football doesn’t matter at all.
miggy4prez
Aw you’re cute
Forgetaboutit
It would be something if the Yankees or an unknown team like the Giants, Phillies or Angels came in at the last second and offered a sweeter deal. Reports are that Bauer will make a decision tomorrow. It’s down to two Mets and Dodgers.
bumpy93
coming from a Phillies fan I don’t want to see this. I just can imagine valor added to the staff with their other starters, this would just be down out unbelievable rotation. throw in Francisco lindor and also throwing in catcher James McCann the New York Mets would definitely have the flashy all season that everybody wanted. everybody thought JT was going to be a mess and it’s like they didn’t even bother waste their time on them, Matt fans are up in arms saying why do we get McCann instead of a JT realmuto, but now you know why they did what they did they didn’t feel like waiting for him and it turned her attention to McCann then lindor then possibly bauer
Whodoirootfor
Don’t worrry one of them will
Blow their arm this year
NY_Yankee
Best thing I can say about the Mets is I hate the Red Sox even more.
tom brunanskys black sock
No one cares.
miggy4prez
At all
Twinsfan333
But people do care deeply about regurgitated movie lines…hack
C_eeez
The Mets traded for Francisco Liriano?
titanic struggle
LA and NY…imagine that. This story line goes all the way back to Bud Selig. He constantly spouted that baseball has/had an excellent competitive balance. If that were the case then and even moreso now, two thirds of teams wouldn’t have felt Bauer or other teams were out of their price range, even with competitive compensation. This game is doomed to become extinct.
NY_Yankee
Do not forget Toronto signed Springer
drrx76
don’t you mean Francisco Lindor not Liriano?
bobtillman
Nightengale just reported the Pirates are a “mystery team”.
miggy4prez
Looool
Mystery Team
$33 million a year for Trevor Bauer, hard pass. The Mets will be in fire sale mode in a year when it all falls apart. This is the Mets let’s not forget.
Cap & Crunch
Totally, new management, front office, Gm and owner are all going to repeat the same blueprint all over.
I think this is the most logical assumption sitting here today
Would suck if it ever changed, what would we do without being able to make Mets jokes ?
2006_wbc-dice-k
Francisco Lindor* although 2006 Liriano would be scary
robb5215
Just as the signing is speculation ss of right so is the best rotation. On paper does not always translate to on the field. Chemistry, injuries, covid run support and a number of other potential pitfalls await during the season. Thors comeback could face several problems and how many players in their walk years like Bauer have career years and never quite duplicate the preformance again. But all this does make fodder for debate.
Get rid of the softball players
Syndegaard will be traded at the trade deadline to an american league team in contention for a play-off spot.
Lindor and conforto contracts need to be address during this off-season.
madman31
The Mets traded for Lindor, not Liriano!
angt222
Been saying 3 yrs/$90M with an opt out after year one could get it done.. looks like it will be $100M for three seasons with the opt out.
tigersfan1320
Ah yes, the blockbuster Francisco Liriano trade
NY_Yankee
If Bauer wants to win he should sign with the Dodgers
Tom1968
And if the mets want to win bauer should sign with the dodgers
MarkoRock68
How long before Bauer and Stroman get into it on twitter- stop talking by June and throwing punches by July.
Luc 2
LOL I can see that with their 4 plus era’s
Rangers29
Bauer is going to break the news on his Youtube channel and get so many clicks it’s pathetic. The man’s a genius.
Maclunkey
I don’t know if genius is the word I’d use to describe him, but yes I think you’re right. He wants to break the news himself.
Joe Momma
Genius or are the people who click on his page just that dumb?
moozimir
Lindor*
Frahm_
Doesn’t get much scarier than Francisco Liriano
bluejaysforever
Bauer best Met Pitcher since Tom Seaver
Luc 2
U on some coke
cstevenson91
Did you forget about Degrom?
Tom1968
Degrom,gooden,cone,darling,dickey,reed,koosman, ring a bell?
DT.J.B.
Like shooting fish in a barrel on that one…
Fan0Sports4
Nolan Ryan
driftcat28 2
The Mets are going to reconstruct Cleveland’s team
Nam0806
Bauer is going to be a disappointment for whomever signs him. He has not justified, in my opinion, based off one good season, and multiple mediocre or even below average seasons, the contract he will most certainly get. He just isn’t that great and he is milking off a good, but not consistent with his career average, season.
bluejaysforever
It’s like signing Tom Seaver in his prime!!
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
But not at all
flmetfan
Uhh, it’s Frankie Linder, not Liriano. If you can’t get the name right I question the rest of the “ news”.
MoRivera 1999
Lindor. If you’re going to correct someone, it’s best to get it right.
Lemonade24
Really ?
Tom1968
1, he should not be paid more than degrom
2, please pick the dodgers bauer,youre just an average pitcher
LaFlamaBlanca
Quit playing, Bauer is on his way to New York. Rotochamp has em on the Mets roster already haha.
Lemonade24
Lmao
atmospherechanger
I’m not from NY, but if headline competition with the Yankees is part of the Plan, Bauer would certainly provide lots of ammunition for the Mets.
thickiedon
Liriano?!? Don’t you mean Lindor?
PoloGrounds62
I would prefer that the Mets don’t sign him. Cano is coming back next year to the tune of $20.4 million plus Conforto and Lindor get big raises. Familia and Betances only cover Cano’s salary. When Thor is back, you don’t need 2 aces, 2 #2’s and Syndergaard. Odorizzi is a better choice for $13 million.
JohhnyBets67
I know Trevor always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room but he should’ve bought himself some insurance. Since he’s not sticking to his 1 year deal BS he tried to go on. Why didn’t he try to do a 5-6 year deal w/ an opt out like so many others have done? He takes his 100 million bucks then gets to re-enter free agency at 33. I dont think this strategy is going to net him any more dollars In the end. He’s just choosing to bear the risk of injury or sub par performance instead of the teaM
dirkg
Please seal the deal on a $30M+ a year guaranteed contract for Trevor Bauer.
Regards, the 29 other MLB teams
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Nightengale is well-suited to follow baseball. Like the league’s best hitters, he gets a hit around 30% of the time.
extreme113
Nice going – FAKE NEWS.
rivera42
Nightengale wrong again? Who else is not surprised at all? How does this dude still have a job?