Blue Jays right-hander Kirby Yates is expected to miss “multiple weeks” due to a flexor-pronator strain in his throwing arm, the team announced. (MLB.com’s Keegan Matheson was among those to report the news.)
Signed to a one-year, $5.5MM deal in January, Yates was expected to provide some veteran experience at the back of Toronto’s bullpen, projected to get the bulk of save opportunities given his past track record. Yates was arguably baseball’s best reliever from 2018-19, posting a 1.67 ERA and 39.02% strikeout rate over 123 2/3 innings and racking up 53 saves. In 2019, Yates received an All-Star selection and finished ninth in NL Cy Young Award voting.
2020 was a lost year, however, as Yates made just six appearances before undergoing surgery to remove bone chips from his throwing elbow. More will be known about this latest injury after further examination, and naturally any sort of elbow problem is cause for concern, particularly given that Yates already has a Tommy John surgery on his record. He underwent that procedure way back in 2006, which resulted in Yates not being drafted and led to the righty beginning his pro career by signing a free agent deal with the Rays in 2009.
The Jays were certainly hoping that a healthy Yates would return to his All-Star form, but his absence now leaves a void in the ninth inning. Jordan Romano and Rafael Dolis are the most logical candidates to serve as closer, or the Blue Jays might approach the role on a situational basis and use Romero, Dolis, and other pitchers for save situations depending on matchups.
In the bigger picture, Yates’ injury is another ominous loss to the Blue Jays’ pitching mix. Nate Pearson won’t be in the rotation to begin the season due to a groin injury, while the club is also still awaiting word on Thomas Hatch’s forearm/elbow problem. With a number of question marks in the rotation, a deep and productive bullpen was even more of a must for the Jays, but the relief corps is now down two arms in Yates and Hatch for the time being.
yeah and that’s why i didn’t pick Yates in the poll
He was still the best closing option in the poll. best reliever in the bigs in 18/19.
He was really good. Certainty not the best lol
who had better numbers? over 40% k rate with an era @ 1.5? no one was better.
Joe had better numbers.
that doesn’t matter if he’s on the IL
I agree, what good is talent if it’s never on field.
hopefully he’ll be back sooner rather than later
you got me darkside. ucl replacement needed. 2nd time around
The Jays really need to sign Shane Greene. Outside of Ryu, their entire pitching staff could be a disaster. The bullpen looks even worse than the rotation. Greene should be cheap. Jeremy Jeffress and Rick Porcello are still out there too. Porcello is nothing special but at least he can eat innings. Shane Greene is the most obvious need though. They could sign him and just shift him directly into Yates closer role. He’s also pretty good at pitching multiple innings at a time so I could see Greene becoming a workhorse and leading the Jays bullpen in innings pitched this season. Heck, at least take a cheap flier on Nate Robertson or something. With all the money the Jays spent this offseason it would be a shame to watch 2021 go to waste just because they didn’t want to spend an additional couple million on some clearly necessary relief help.
The dominos begin to fall. This bullpen is going to end up strained to the Max again due to rotation thinness.
Rotation thinness? They have Ryu, Ray, Roark, Matz, Thornton, Pearson, Stripling, Hatch and Kay who can all start. I wouldn’t call that “thin” by any stretch. Like every team in the majors, the bullpens effectiveness will rely on the health of the starting staff. If their starting pitching is healthy and effective the bullpen will be fine. That’s not a Blue Jays thing. It’s an MLB thing.
Ya they have a ton of pretty good quality depth, they just really need a couple of them to step up this year and become more than a 4/5 caliber pitcher. The early results for Ray and Matz sure look promising, but they’ll need to show more than a dominant spring to have full confidence in them.
also Zeuch
That’s not a good starting staff past Ryu. They’ll need someone like Pearson to really step up, and young pitching prospects often struggle for a few seasons. That, in turn, creates pressure on the pen, which makes the grind of a 162-game season challenging.
Most of those “starters” that you mention are crap or aren’t ready to start in the majors. Ryu is elite. Matz is good but can’t stay on the field. The rest are awful.
So their starting pitching will not be fine.
After Ryu, the names you listed epitomize a thin rotation
“Dunedin’s Finest” doesn’t have a great 5 man rotation, and now has even a thinner bullpen. It will be a dogfight for 2nd in the AL East between the Rays and the Jays. One will likely be a Wild Card.
LOL
Rays will win ALE in a walk…..
Went to the WS last year. Stacked roster. #1 ranked farm system this year, and the #1 ranked prospect.
Add in one of the best FO’s in MLB (that roster and farm system didn’t magically appear), and one of the best Managers in MLB, and they won’t have to make the injury excuse other teams fans (like the Yankee fans) do each year – “We would have been better except for the injuries”
As Bill Parcells said – “You are what your record says you are”.
So…0-0, @sammy.
Because that is every team’s regular season record right now, bro. (duh?)
Yeah…we would have probably won 117 games without all those injuries. Had to “settle” for 103. Boo hoo, uh?
Dunno what team you root for (don’t care!) but my guess is they’ve never won that many games. Odds are.
Who is making excuses for being in the playoffs every year? I’ve not seen that.
Man.
I really see why my fellow Yankee fans are so sick of you guys trolling us. It *is* annoying. This isn’t even a Yankee article! My God. You guys pay so much attention to us. It’s flattering in a way? I guess? But, no doubt you’re one of millions of dudes that we…well, own mentally & spiritually. You obviously spend way more time ruminating about the Yankees than whatever scrub-ass team you follow. Ya know?
I sorta get it.
We symbolize North American (world wide) sports excellence. The only team that people buy specific “Hater” merch for.
Whatever.
You guys really do suck lol. I came here to discuss the Yates injury. Perhaps you could do the same.
Why do you keep saying “we”? Do you have a mouse in your pocket or something?
As a matter of fact, I do.
Multiple. My style is to roll with a mouse in every pocket. Plus a parrot on each shoulder.
Cool that you picked up on this.
You’re not one of those guys who gets all squirrelly about fans who self relate to their teams though, are you? Because that would shatter my image of how cool I think you are, sir.
@ Ducky Buckin Fent;
If it isn’t a Yankee article, then why don’t you come down on them for trolling here?
I only responded to what was written. I leave personal attacks out.
You want to be an ankle biter – Fine. Tell me who I am, what I’m thinking, and what I’m allowed to do – Fine. Hardly a unique thing on social media. Those that can’t discuss the issues with those they differ with usually do that.
Lol
Little doggy barking. ^
& personal attack?
Say what now?
Samuel, you do have a penchant for your anti-Yankees posts on the boards. Moreover, the post you responded to was of a response to the actual discussion at hand – Yates, thus the Jay’s pitching depth or lack thereof.
And frankly, we don’t say injuries kept us out of anything…. but, the Rays did win, they do have a great staff, and they are supported by the Yankees financially, you are correct!
So, if a team is its record then why are you already saying the Rays walk away with the East. Doesn’t that very statement contradict your very position on a team’s performance? It is counterintuitive to judge performance on the metric of past, yet espouse how good a team is and declare it a winner prior to the beginning, no?
@Samuel- we’ll see where you are at the end of the season, hopefully you won’t be too depressed being so delusional. We’d love to speak to you again and see how you’re doing. Best of luck with your Ray’s prediction. They lose Snell( in a trade) and Morton(free agency) and now their going to win the AL East again? Just as long as your sure… lmao! Be well.
@coolhandneil- yeah that mouse that @Ducky Bucky Fent- has in his pocket is saying the Yankees are winning the AL East in 2021. So nothing is wrong with him or anything. He’s a smart mouse like Stuart Little. God Bless him! Lmao!
@Ducky Bucky Fent- those parrots on each shoulder are pretty special and smart also. So just keep on keeping on Brother and continue rooting for a winning team like you do! The trolling will continue unfortunately, but it’s just all out of jealousy cuz. Lol.
It normally doesn’t bother us, @Yankee4Life.
But the parrots are persnickety today for some reason.
Man.
It’s spring baseball weather up here! Today I actually started looking forward to opening day. Woke up ready for the season.
Let’s see our squads settle this stuff between the lines.
& after we’ve gone to the playoffs for…what…the 25th(?) time in the last 28 years we can all do this exact same stuff again next year. When it’ll be 26-29. & the next year. & the next…well, you know how it is.
Being a Yankee fan.
One major difference also to piggyback on your point Ducky, the Rays, in keeping with the exemplar team, had their shot; they may get one more, but that’s it for decades.
The Yankees will keep grinding, but are inevitable winners of #28 within a few years. They are perennial favorites and are inimitable for every other team in MLB, except the current LAD team, should they continue operating this way.
Oh, I sure do love being a Yankees fan……
I know it’s not resulted in a Championship. Which sucks.
But just look at the last 4 years. This is supposedly a “bad run” – or what have you. 4 straight trips to the postseason. Never a one & done either. A couple hundred win seasons. Two LCS appearances that were hard fought (& possibly tainted).
Do you know how many fan bases would kill for a run like that? & we look at it in a rather ho-hum fashion. Ya know?
For absolutely any team in MLB that’s a nice little run. & more success than a number of teams have ever experienced! For us it’s a failure.
Yanks & Jints have treated me so well.
It’s been – & continues to be – a blast to root for those teams.
I’m ready for some baseball, Clip.
Me too! Bring it on…. Can’t wait. Such a refreshing time of year. Brings a bit of nostalgia and the best sport to ever grace God’s green Earth. Well, here’s to the new season, another playoff run, and beating LAD in the WS for #28!
“Rotation thinness? They have Ryu, Ray, Roark, Matz, Thornton, Pearson, Stripling, Hatch and Kay who can all start. I wouldn’t call that “thin” by any stretch. Like every team in the majors, the bullpens effectiveness will rely on the health of the starting staff. If their starting pitching is healthy and effective the bullpen will be fine. That’s not a Blue Jays thing. It’s an MLB thing.”
Considering Pearson and Hatch are on the shelf and Roark and Matz spent the last 2 years getting shelled I’d say the Jays’ rotation depth is thinner than you think.
They can all start, only Ryu can be depended on as a good starter. Pearson is a young prospect and the rest are unknowns or not good enough as an MLB starter. Razor thin.
@bucketbrew
As of now, the Hatch and Pearson injuries don’t sound too serious according to initial reports. Saying that, you’re right that it does start to thin out if they’re injured. But that’s what happens when guys start to go down lol. Wait a couple of weeks and hopefully their ready to ramp up and contribute to the big league team.
I just know I’ll miss Matz in the NL East because the Phillies used to tee off on him, lol. I think Pearson is a great young player. I want him to succeed but him injuring and then re-injuring that groin so soon is not a good sign in the early going.
@bucketbrew35- it’s okay, it’s the Yankees turn to tee off off of Matz and Kay now, no worries. Yes, Pearson is nice young player but unfortunately there isn’t “enough osage” in the world for that groin issue. Without a certified ace in that rotation like a Luis Castillo, the Jays would be considered lucky to finish 2nd behind the Yankees. Look out for those Rays this season. They’ll likely be neck and neck. Let the games begin!
Yea not thin as in 7-8 starters i hope is what he ment. As a jays fan im super pessimistic about the rotation Ryu will most likely hit the shelf aswell, unless Ray and Matz spring’s are for real, jays are 3rd at best in ALE. They will have to score 5+ most nights
I think you all are defining the term thin in two different ways from what I’m gathering: pro-Jays rotation posts are speaking to quantity, whereas the anti-Jays rotation posts are speaking to quality thinness.
Ray has looked really good – that is something I’m curious to see. Matz, been subpar for too long imo to continue this with any consistency, but not Ray. Outside of that, plenty of names, not a lot of quality, when discussing the Jays as the second place team in the strongest division in MLB.
Matz, you funny
Jays pitching will be a major issue, nice offense though. Maybe find trades to swap some hitting for pitching depth
Damn! That a big blow to the Jays pen. Opportunity for somebody else I guess.
Blue Jays pitching is going to be up against the AL and NL East lineups is very scary.
Oh man that’s not good. Greene wouldn’t look bad as a back end replacement but I doubt he’d be up to speed very quick. Hopefully Romano or Dolis can bridge the gap or even take over the job in the meantime.
My bet is he will be back but this does not look good for his season. This specific injury takes more than a couple weeks to resolve and he’s gonna tweak it and or lose speed on pitches based on where his career is at right now. Why? Because he tried to fight through injury last year so I’m leaning towards stubborn reinjury here. Fight on Kirb
He had surgery for bone chips, so that sounds like its different?
Is to replace Giles. Hopefully he doesn’t require as much DL time
They hopefully weren’t depending on Yates to return to 2019 form, but I’m pulling for him to get back on the hill and help the Jays.
It is different but he’s not at the same form as 2019. 2020 he missed an entire year and is gonna lose some of his form. He could totally be alright or he could be in a rough spot. Remember he was in SD playing in an amazing park for pitchers now he’s going to the AL East, a classic hitter heavy division and it’s gonna be a real test to see him handle performing close to what he’s done the last few years.
Romano next?
Bad idea letting Bass go and not trying to sign Colome. Yates was not guaranteed to be healthy. This is not good at all.
Ya one more pitcher wouldn’t have been bad. I wonder if this opens the door for Anthony Castro. He seems to be the guy they go to when somebody gets into trouble and all he’s done is strike everybody out so far. I thought he had a bit of upside when he was claimed and could be a diamond in the rough, May as well see what he’s got.
Hey, I know the Jays are overrated and can’t hit their way out of that pitching and defense (same as the Yankees, Mets, Twins, White Sox, and others).
It’s March 22. The Standings are all tied. Games don’t count until April 1. We have 6 MONTHS to see how things play out. Surprises happen in all sports each year. It’s why people watch…..otherwise we’d believe all the pre-season team projections which have been overwhelmingly and embarrassingly wrong for decades.
Why is anyone surprised at Yates or anyone else’s injury on the Jays pitching staff? there should be no surprise. Everyone should expect the Jays pitching staff to implode. it is not just Yates, just watch.
Many of the starters and relievers are bounce-back candidates. That is no way to build a winner.
Take a depth breath. This team as built will not compete or win a playoff spot.
And the Shapiro wants to extend Atkins and many of the commenters think it is a good idea. Lets get a dose of reality.
If the BlueJays were good and had a shot I would tell you. Someone has got to keep saying what the issues are and how to fix them. “Let’s extend poor executives”. And acquire more injury prone or bounce back players.
Folks, Rogers and Sportsnet are feeding you BS. Don’t drink the Koolaid.
Too late Jimmer. You didn’t hear? Jays have great SP depth. They tell us so we have to believe it.
This Yates injury makes a good case against extending Atkins. How many more of these signings should the fans tolerate? The 2016-17 offseason after the second ALCS appearance, not trading Donaldson and Smoak, extending Grichuk, the Fisher experiment, the Happ trade, going limp on the starting pitching this offseason….building a good farm system is what bad teams are supposed to do. That is the goal of the scouting department watching kids play on a daily basis!
For now, the saving grace is the fact that the Jays have some horses in the bullpen.
You are the definition of hindsight being 20-20. Saying all the guys should have been traded in the 16/17 off-season after going to the ALCS.is a total joke.
I guess you are still hurt they didn’t spend 90 million for 2 years of the clown who closes one eye while throwing a 95mph+ fastball too the plate.
You are the definition of an armchair fan, where you forget to watch baseball games before you speak.
Morales was a DH, not allowing Donaldson or Tulo to DH from time to time as they were already in their 30’s. Steve Pearce is basically a DH asked to play LF. Bautista, 35 turning 36, needed to DH and was then re-signed after Pearce and Morales.
JP Howell to replace Cecil, could barely break 85 or 86 mph. Wasn’t a shock to fans of his previous team.
If you followed baseball closely you’d know all this, and realize this had nothing to do with “hindsight 20-20”. The question you should ask is if Atkins and company did this on-purpose to end the run or if they legitimately thought these were wonderful ideas. Either way it shut the window real fast.
+1 WereAllJustGuests. You are absolutely hilarious Marko. You are the fan equivalent of someone listening to the first 10 seconds of a song and telling people that he’s “listened to it.”
I have been a fan since the very beginning. You and your BFF saying the Jays mgmt should have dumped the team after 16 is hilarious and revisionist history by definition, You 2 alone with Jimmer act like AA bandwagon fanboys who want the boom and busty cycles associated with going all in and trading the farm for a 2-3 yr window. Maybe none of you are old enough or too senile too remember how the team was built in the 84-93 run of success.
If you were there then you should know how to build a winner. But keep telling us about ST stats of bullpen arms facing minor league hitters again.
Not sure why you’d bring up AA. I’m not fond of AA but keep making false presumptions as being incorrect is something you’ve practice.
Never have I said the Jays should have dumped the team after 2016. I like winning. But keep making more bad assumptions as you do baseball opinions.
If anything, today’s game with 5 playoff spots up for grabs is easier than it was from 1984-1993. I know you didn’t know that as you scan fangraphs and projections to use as facts. But keep upvoting your own comments.
Upvoting my own comments?? LMAO paranoid or what. You need help. How long before you make up a new Alias Wild Bill?
This again. Why are you always angry?
Angry? HAHA -Really? Seriously man you are a joke . Take alot more then your ilk to make me angry WildBill.
Really curious as to why you changed your nick- is it an annual thing for you? A fresh start to hide behind or something after a season where you’ve been proven wrong time and time again .?
I don’t care for Mark Shapiro. As much as he’s grown over the years, he still clings to new wave theories and eschews traditionally baseball theories – like defense and pitching wins.
But look – when he took over the Jays they were a mess. AA had traded away what was left at the high end of the farm system to win now – which they did….although a bit short of the WS. His payroll was maxed out, and his players weren’t going to get much better (we see that today with the Yankees, Mets, Nationals, and others). Meanwhile the ML team was stuck with older players on large contracts that were deteriorating, and consequently were difficult to move. Over the years I’ve seen dozens of teams and their Baseball Ops head stuck in this position.
Yes, AA left Shapiro & Co some very good prospects at the lower level of the minors. But Shapiro took the slings and arrows from the media and CSA’s (Cheap Shot Artists) – like some on here – for years and did what he had to. He’s built a team on hitting – as did his mentor John Hart and others. But he still doesn’t understand pitching (although he has figured out that a Catcher that can handle a staff and call a game but can’t hit, is better then one that can hit but can’t handle the pitchers). The issue is this……
Are the JAYS competitive at a high level in 2021? YES. Will they win the ALE? Probably not – their defense has too many weaknesses and their overall pitching is suspect. But it’s still up to the players on the field.
The Jays are miles ahead of when Shapiro took over. If somehow they can bring along 4-5 starting and bullpen pitchers on their ML roster and clean up that defense over the next few years, then maybe we can talk WS. But heavens, they don’t stink.
Not good. Signing a guy who’d had elbow issues near the end of last season was a risk. Spreading the money around rather than going all in on starting pitching could become a problem. However, it is a good thing the Jays have pitching depth – in the bullpen.
To the people above peddling the lie about the Jays starting pitching depth and it’s quality; not a single team will be calling the Jays for any of the arms you think provides great depth. 29 other teams do not think the Jays have that depth you want to keep telling yourselves. They aren’t calling for Zeuch or Kay or even Thornton, and they might call Merryweather but not as a starting pitcher. This depth you speak of does not exist. If they were quality they’d start over Roark and Stripling.
Mr. Guest.
It’s incredibly important to back up your closer with at least a couple quality setup men. I don’t follow the Jays close enough. Do the Jays have a couple quality setup men?
Throwing all your eggs in just a single closer basket and hoping you can get good work from suspect setup men is not a good strategy.
They do, Halo. But bullpens are like the stock market.
One of the problems they might run into is moving two key bullpen contributors to the starting rotation in AAA, Hatch and Merryweather. Hatch is hurt and could be going under the knife and Merryweather is not durable enough IMO. Yates’ injury opens the door for AJ Cole to make the team. The bullpen depth is good but bullpens change from one year to the next.
Also very funny that Romano meant nothing to the organization. They didn’t promote him in 2018 to AAA after being a AA All-Star and left him exposed to Rule 5 where both the White Sox and Rangers had him. Jays ran into arm injuries and were forced to use him. Jays are very lucky to have him considering they thought little of him.
If the Rays have suitable replacements then signing Kirby was a sound move. He didn’t cost much and the Jays are not dead in the water without him.
Yes pens are volatile. But if you are happy with the current redundancies then it should not be too hard to weather the storm.
Halo I’m as thrilled with the Jays starting pitching as you are with the Angels bullpen. Plenty of what-ifs and uncertainty.
Mr. Guest.
Sorry to hear that. I know how you feel.
I don’t mind the Angels starting rotation. I think it has a chance to be solid. I think the bullpen needs prayer.
Halo, on the positive side, the BlueJays have good to very good setup guys, one is elite. Kay is good, Romano is very good, Dolis is good, Cole is okay, and Merryweather is an elite setup guy. I think that this group is going to be overworked and burned-out by midseason.
Osuna is still available
If you’re a betting man, put the house on that not happening…
He was a high risk, high reward signing coming off an arm injury.
Not too worried sounds like a month or two.. When he’s back and can perform still be lots of time.
What terrible offseason for the blue jays. Great example on how not to go for it. All the while the AL East has never been weaker.
There window will shut before it opens and all these top ranked prospects they are hoarding will start to fizzle like vlad jr
Merryweather…dude could be a sick closer I think.
Sick setup guy. Not a closer.
Yikes. Poor Blue Jays. Sounding like the AL East Angels of years past. I hope all the arms mend quickly. The AL East appears to be the most competitive in the AL and always an entertaining division.
Is this somehow AJ Preller’s fault?
Hahahaha you know the Preller haters are thinking that
Maybe we should re do the jays/padres bullpen poll?
That poll was a no brainer to begin with.
adding Austin Adams and remove Dan Antivilla
Jays are in fine shape for the pen. ST are to be taken with a grain of salt but better to have great results then bad.
Chatwood- 7 IP 0.00 Era
Castro – 6.1IP 1.42 Era
Liriano – 5.1 IP 0.00 Era
Phelps- 5.0 IP 0.00 Era
Cole – 5.0 IP 5.40 Era – on a minor league deal
Snead- 5.0 IP – 0.00 Era
Romano – 4.0 IP – 2.25 Era
Borucki- 4.0 IP -2.25Era
Mayza – 3.2IP -0.00 Era
Bergen- 3.0IP -3.00 Era
Dolis -2.2 IP -3.38 Era
Baker -1.0 IP -0.00 Era
Rees- 1.0 IP -0.00 Era
Merryweather – Threw a simulated game . Coming off back tightness
14 deep for the pen many Power Arms .
Snead/Mayza/Baker/Rees in Triple A, with Cole and or Bergen possible on the bubble depending on if they go with an 8 or 9 man pen.
Marko buddy, I’m seriously concerned as to how you see that as a good bullpen.
Off man not sure what universe you are living in. Romano/Dolis/Borucki/Merryweather and Cole were all great last year to say otherwise is proof of your dogmatic negative bias and run counter to the facts and stats. Liriano and Mayza have good track records as does Phelps. Chatwood has alot of upside.
You are proving yourself to be a GRADE A Troll.
This is why I tell you you don’t watch baseball. If you did you’d know Merryweather is slated to be a SP in AAA, not a bullpen guy. Do not put him in a place he’s not projected to play. It’s like you saying Vlad is playing shortstop in 2021 although I’m sure you think that too.
Next time use an actual argument, like this:
Oof, have to disagree with you. Solid bullpen arms with a depth chart of Romano, Dolis, Borucki, Chatwood and Phelps. Liriano and Bergen have looked great as lefty arms out of the bullpen and Stripling has proven to be a good swingman in his career. Depth like Cole will help after his good 2020 season. And if Merryweather and Hatch return to the bullpen, look out!
Instead you jumbled up the names with no direction. Thanks for nothing. Again.
Your opinion is based off of Spring Training games! Little John Doe who hasn’t played a game above Single A is taking at bats dude! You have no argument!
Oh, by “track record”, SURELY you mean Lirianos HORRENDOUS ERA the past 5 seasons eh? Go back even farther if you want. I don’t know who you were watching if you think that Merryweather and Cole had great seasons last year.
Sit down dude. Watch some games first and then get back to me.
WildBill
They were listed by IP thus far this Spring . If you had any sort of reading comprehension you would have noticed that. Good grief how clueless can one person be.
Off
Ok now you prove that you are out of touch with reality . Cole last year in a 60 Game Season- 1 War – 3.09 ERA- 23.1IP . Ok its obvious you really are a clueless Troll so there is no point conversing with you.
Oh and Chatwood has a lot of upside? You seem to like stats a lot so why don’t you check his out. Take a look at that, come back, and they tell me that he’s good.
Your stats are for 24 games. That’s good to you?
What is with you and this “reality” thing?
Oh and tell me about it. Completely ignore 95% of my comment. it’s clear that I’m conversing with someone who doesn’t have a single clue as to what they’re talking about.
Really WildBill?
Merryweather slated to be a AAA SP?
And I am the one who does not follow baseball closely boy oh boy- Keep trying there kiddo.
March 16th – ESPN and Sportnet had write ups . “Atkins also added that he envisions Merryweather filling a hybrid bullpen role, serving both as an opener and as a multi-inning reliever.”
Clueless
Ooof
With regards to Cole go re-read what we both said about Cole.
( Cole and Merryweather had great years LAST YEAR ) You know the – The Year 2020 . Now that I disprove your narrative you change that to oh go look at more of his stats prior to 2020. That’s why I say alternate reality. You say something then when someone calls you out you back peddle .
Anyway better things I could be doing then dealing with someone this dense.
YOU go re-read what I said about Cole. How was LAST year good for him. How are any of those stats that you gave me considered a “good” year.
Enlighten me please. I insist.
Clueless.
Dude just stop responding to these guys. Theyre just trolling you, youre not going to talk any sense into them. Theyre just trying to get a rise out of people like you.
Oh, and way to zip by many of many legitimate counter thoughts. Sit down dude. This isn’t the 80’s anymore.
Nah I’m just trying to talk some sense, “reality” as he calls it, into a thick minded, clueless, individual is all.
Come on, now trade for Richard Rodriguez and/or Chris Stratton.
That’s too bad but it’s not the end of the world, season hasn’t started yet and it will be a full season so not as drastic compared to the covid shortened season. They still got Dolis who from I remember seeing him against the yanks has some filthy stuff and could be a decent bandaid until Yates is back at least.
How long before @Remove comes on to tell the “facts” about TJ being needed? As a KY fan I hope not and wish him good health and results.
By the way, I am told an opinion that Yates will heal. One person in the room feels he will return to elite status and I concur, it is just going to take a while.
Pearson should close for the Jays this year. Best way to minimize his innings while filling a major hole for this team.
Best advice and call of the day. Pearson should close when he comes back. For sure.
The Jays are going to have to avg 7 rpg. They already had a below avg pitching staff, now it’s just a bad pitching staff.
They gonna complain about his medical records now?
@Remove – can’t wait to take his Preller shots but he was a free agent so won’t fly.
r/whooooooooosh
@ Remove
“Forearm tightness = Tommy John. It’s like getting bitten by a zombie. It’s only a matter of time.”
I take it that you still believe in the statement you made? The flexor-pronator mass is in the forearm. So I take it you believe that Yates needs Tommy John? Looks like Zac Gallen will be going under the knife soon too, right?
@Hudson6 are you going to provide proof of the charges against Luis Campusano getting reduced to a misdemeanor?
@ Remove
First: That wasn’t me who said that. Go argue about that with whoever you started that argument with.
Second: I noticed that you didn’t answer my question. Why is that?
You got caught Remove. Own it.
Yeah yeah you did.
mlbtraderumors.com/2020/12/padres-rumors-kirby-yat…
And “got caught?” Bro, we don’t know that Pom won’t need TJ yet. At least wait until he returns to the mound and is able to go a month without getting shut back down.
Also, learn to thread your comments.
@ Remove
“Is that wrong?” Do you know the difference between a statement and a question Remove? Apparently not.
“Forearm tightness = Tommy John”. Do you still stand by this statement? Are you certain that Pomeranz, Yates and Gallen going to need TJ surgery? You said it does. Or is forearm tightness only a certain sign of TJ surgery FOR PADRES PITCHERS?
@Hudson6 Yes. Forearm tightness does = Tommy John. I did not say, however, that it always IMMEDIATELY results in Tommy John. Colin Rea didn’t need it until about 11 months after he was diagnosed with forearm tightness, for instance.
@Hudson6 ooooooof!
One down.
No! This is just not right. He deserved another shot to show his excellence.