The Mets again find themselves in the midst of an effort to reshape their front office, less than a year after already making sweeping changes under new owner Steve Cohen. Team president Sandy Alderson temporarily assumed oversight of baseball operations last week as the team put acting GM Zack Scott on administrative leave following a DWI arrest, but there’s little expectation Alderson will return to the top of the baseball ops hierarchy on a full-time basis.
MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweets today that Alderson signed a two-year deal to help Cohen’s ownership transition and front office changes, but he had no desire to return to a full-time baseball operations role. The team’s plan for the 2022 season is to have Alderson return to a broader-reaching team president role without directly running the baseball operations department. A new hire will need to be made, as has already been widely suggested in the wake of Scott’s DWI charge.
Cohen’s Mets were connected to numerous high-profile candidates last year in looking to fill their baseball operations void after parting ways with Brodie Van Wagenen, but several either declined to interview or were denied permission to do so. Teams generally only permit their executives to interview with other clubs if the position is a promotion over their current post. It’s probably not a coincidence that the Rays not only extended general manager Erik Neander but promoted him to president of baseball operations just yesterday; Neander was known to be of interest to the Mets last year.
There’s been quite a bit of recent speculation on Theo Epstein as a candidate. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale and the New York Post’s Joel Sherman all wrote on the topic within the same 24-hour period. Of course, as Rosenthal pointed out, it was Epstein who originally hired both Scott and Jared Porter — the former Mets GM who was fired a month into his tenure last offseason following revelations of past harassment of a reporter. Both joined the Red Sox under Epstein’s watch, and Epstein brought Porter to Chicago not long after being named Cubs president of baseball operations.
The optics of that aren’t necessarily damning, but a cleaner break from that tree might also be welcome. Furthermore, SNY’s Andy Martino wrote this week that nearly everyone he’s spoken to has strongly downplayed the Epstein rumors. All three Epstein columns also mention the possibility that he’d look to secure a minority stake with any team he joins, and Martino suggests the same: that Epstein is seeking a partial ownership opportunity.
Looking around the league, there aren’t many high-profile executives who’d seem like candidates to depart their current post and take on the spotlight of the Mets’ presidency. Twins GM Thad Levine and Indians GM Mike Chernoff both declined the opportunity to interview last offseason. A’s GM David Forst was reported to be of interest to the Mets (and the Angels), but there’s no indication he ever actually interviewed (or even spoke with) either club.
Heyman somewhat speculatively suggests two other executives whose names have been or could be of interest to the Mets: Dodgers senior vice president of baseball operations Josh Byrnes and Rangers president of baseball operations Jon Daniels. Martino, in similar fashion, listed off three more high-profile execs who’d be making lateral moves and require ownership permission to even interview: Cleveland’s Chris Antonetti, Minnesota’s Derek Falvey and Oakland’s Billy Beane.
Byrnes would make a fairly logical candidate for the Mets to pursue. He’s a high-ranking member of a large-payroll, consistently successful organization, but the Mets’ top baseball ops job would still represent a promotion for him. He’s also served as general manager of both the Padres and the Diamondbacks in the past, so he’s no stranger to running a baseball operations outfit himself. Somewhat coincidentally, Byrnes was the other finalist for the Mets’ GM post back in 2010 when the team ultimately hired Alderson to take over baseball operations.
As for Daniels, he would be making a lateral move, from one president of baseball ops role to another. However, the Rangers also just recently hired Chris Young as their new general manager, and that could be viewed as a means of grooming an eventual heir-apparent for Daniels, who was extended on a contract of still-unreported length back in 2018. Daniels — a Queens native, for what it’s worth — has been running the Rangers’ baseball operations department since being appointed general manager at just 28 years of age in the 2005-06 offseason.
Daniels’ situation bears some similarity to that of Brewers president of baseball operations David Stearns, whose name was recently raised in connection with the Mets by ESPN’s Buster Olney. However, there are also some key differences. As is the case with the Rangers, the Brewers just named a new general manager, Matt Arnold, to serve under Stearns (who is, like Daniels, a New York native). The key difference is that Arnold was promoted to GM from within at a time when the Mets were known to be looking to hire a GM; Young was hired by the Rangers from outside the organization. (Although he also interviewed for the Mets’ job last offseason before joining the Rangers.)
Stearns is also newer to the Brewers’ top job than Daniels is to his own post. His contract extension and promotion are both more recent as well. There’s little reason to think Brewers owner Mark Attanasio would be open to allowing Stearns to depart when he’s still under contract another year and when the Brewers have emerged as one of the best teams in all of baseball. The Brewers denied him permission to interview last offseason, Martino notes.
Suffice it to say, speculation already abounds with regard to the Mets’ front office, and that’s before the team has even truly begun its search for a new baseball operations leader in earnest. These names and a dozen or more others will likely be tied to the Mets in the weeks and months to come, before a hire is ultimately made.
CursedRangers
Please please please take Jon Daniels off of our hands. Please.
C.K.Rebel
I thinks we’d be more likely to go after Chris Young, he’s an Anderson favorite
Steve Adams
They tried to hire him last year. He took the job in Texas because he didn’t want to move his family to New York.
Joseph McBrody
Why did you leave New York? For Minnesota of all places. Dallas/Texas, I could sort of understand, but not the Twin Cities.
Appalachian_Outlaw
There is nothing wrong with Minnesota, and why question someone else’s decision to go there? Doesn’t impact you at all.
bravesiowafan
Midwest vibes trump east coast madness 🙂
When it was a game.
Kinda not right. I’m from NY and been to MN a very nice place. Just would be to cold for me.
sufferforsnakes
Smart man.
When it was a game.
@giantsphan don’t forget TX is full of illegals. Though MN may have a Canadian problem the media hasn’t made us aware of. All kidding I has to go there for a week for work training and was very nice charming city with nice places and restaurants. Didn’t get to do much tourist stuff but seemed to be plenty to do.
MWeller77
No one is illegal *eyeroll*
sfes
Pretty sure he was being facetious
justinkm19
TX Governor is a moron, but that doesn’t mean Texans share the same beliefs.
mmyechoandbunnymen
An elected governor means that a large amount of the citizenry share the same beliefs or at least are willing to overlook it. Not all mind you, but yes quite a few if not the majority of people in TX share the same beliefs. Growing up in NW Florida I can tell you the same exists with Matt Gaetz. Took the first ride outta town at 18. Never looked back.
giantsphan12
@mm, from my vantage point, your choice to grab that first ride out was a good one! Your former home stateside a mess! So is Texas! I’d choose MN over both in a heartbeat.
southern lion
TEXIT.
Cosmo2
Yea, watch Texas leave the union and then go on to have a better economy and lower crime rate than any of the 49 states left behind. What snarky jokes will the peanut gallery have then?
Not a clever name
50000 + Somali’s agree that Canadians are no problem.
Not a clever name
What does this have to do with baseball? Particularly the Mets GM search?
Timothy Salahi
We sure due… don’t tread on Texas
Timothy Salahi
We sure do
TheRealMilo
I agree. Daniels is baseball franchise meth. A brief high but then a decade of rotten teeth and tooling around junkyards aimlessly. Daniels’ entire career was built around the Mark Texiera trade of the early 2000’s. A good trade that led to an interesting couple of seasons. Flash forward 20 years later, and the franchise is 5 years into a rebuild, but save Jung, no impact players remotely close to contributing. I get a chuckle when these national writers float Daniels’ name out there for anything an everything -especially for a NY gig. That city would eat him alive. Daniels is maybe passable as a short term GM for a franchise that watches cash flows more than wins and losses.
davidk1979
Give me Billy Beane!
Joseph McBrody
You’ll get Billy Bean (no ‘e’), and nothing more, but if you hire him, you don’t get Daniel Murphy as hitting coach.
Cosmo2
Actually Murphy and Bean get along well.
Mario93
Damn that Francisco Lindor deals looks awful here in September. 10 years for 300 whatever million? 43 million or something per year ? Mets fans are truly cursed. I hope the Mets fans crucify the guy if he doesn’t turn it around next year… Boo him every second of the game, he’s stealing money at this point.
metfan4ever
Take a walk Mario93. Lindor is fine. BOOOOO TO YOU
Cosmo2
While I disagree with your idea of fans “crucifying” him or that he is stealing money, I agree, that contract is horrible. It was horrid the moment they inked it.
HBan22
Very, very bad contract.
sufferforsnakes
Hehehehe…..
mmyechoandbunnymen
Math skills, not on point here.
andremets
300 divided by 10 is 30, not 43.
Joseph McBrody
If Cohen comes out and tells people get over the algorithm fetish, they might have more candidates interested in the Mets job. Since everybody has the same computer programs, utilizes the same sabermetrics, and subscribes to Bill James latest updates like every other team does now, the odds are no better than playing the slots in Vegas. The Mets need to combine sabermetrics with an old-school mentality with an executive that has actually won something. Honestly, I don’t care if it’s a former player or not, but if you’ve never won anything in your life, you can’t succeed in a front office. All you’ll care about is proving formulas right instead of advancing and winning in the postseason.
Cosmo2
McBrody, what you are saying is completely untrue. The essence of analytics, particularly Bill James’ style, is to be ahead of the curve and find NEW ideas so you can have an advantage. (James is very secretive about his actual “algorithms” so, no, not everybody uses them). This is just typical criticism of analytics without actually understanding what analytics is about. So many folks that oppose analytics are really opposing their own made up conception of what analytics is, not actual analytics. Move forward, not backward.
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Which former executive who has won something and is still working in baseball doesn’t put a major amount of emphasis on analytics?
I think your objection to analytics is ignoring what the term really refers to at present. A lot of the data that teams are relying on is literally just a more precise measurement of what scouts have always looked at, with an actual number replacing subjective opinions.
The important human element (which every successful organization in baseball does well) is filtering the data through the organization effectively, and that kind of leadership and knowledge is what the Mets need (in addition to someone who isn’t accepting of sickening behavior from those working under them like Alderson has been)
jim stem
The last two losses are all about the data over riding baseball instincts.
Batting a singles hitting Guillorme who just came off the IL with one at bat since Saturday, instead of the hot Pillar when a simple fly ball was needed (runner on 3b, no outs) just because the pitcher was a righty.
Pitching to the red hot hitting de la Cruz with 1st and 2nd unoccupied with two outs instead of the .125 hitting ice cold lefty on deck just because Diaz and de la Cuz are right handed?
Hitting Lindor lead off?
Rojas has proven time and time again that he has no understanding HOW to manage in game or understand when a hitter is hot. Loup has been our most consistent reliever, yet Diaz continues to blow leads with walks when we need out. He’s blown at least 4 leads in his last 8-10 games. Do the math, we’d have the same number of wins as Braves tonight if we score runners from third with less than 2 outs and pitch in the ninth in those games alone.
tstats
Because after a hitter suddenly is not hot they go ice cold real quick and like REALLY cold. You cant determine when the heat is going to end so you play towards the mean and regression
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The first two decisions you mentioned (both of which I thought were bad ones) are things that are also part of “old-school” baseball logic – playing the percentages is certainly a strategy that predates analytics. The idea of having one closer who pitches in save situations is certainly not something that people who focus on analytics are pushing. I think batting Lindor leadoff is just a product of them not having anybody in the lineup right now who really belongs in that spot.
Again, everybody is using analytics. Bad decisions made based on analytics don’t demonstrate that relying on data is a bad strategy, which is proven by the fact that every successful team in baseball is relying heavily on analytics.
Cosmo2
Jim Stem, you are totally wrong on this with similar misconceptions to McBrody… first of all, Rojas is just making bad decisions, analytics has nothing to do with it. Then you say, “we’d have the same number if wins as the Braves if…” Typical anti-analytics misconception: choosing a different strategy doesn’t automatically lead to a better outcome; it offers better probability, not a guarantee. Chances are we still don’t score those runners every time no matter what decision is made. NONE of the decisions you point to are decisions favored by analytics except maybe Lindor leading off which is a good move. Learn more about analytics before you criticize it because you don’t seem to understand the subject at all.
xpensivewinos
If Sandy Alderson is involved, your team is in deep tapioca……
mlbnyyfan
Theo Epstein coming to Flushing you can book it.
imissjoebuzas
Nah. Won’t happen. Epstein isn’t coming to the Mets. If he is sitting on the premise he sign for a percentage of the team, it won’t happen. Better to try to grab Carlos Rodriguez or Kevin Ibach from the Rays. Identify those players you could build around, and not
Let the media nor the fans tell you who the Mets should sign or trade for.
extreme113
Bobby Heck, the scouting director who helped build the Astros WS team should be added to the rumors about the NYM’s next GM.
reflect
Just get rid of Alderson
metsr1
Couldn’t agree more.
C.K.Rebel
Billy Beane comes full circle ?
ham77
No high profile candidate wants to jump into that dumpster fire fueled by Cohen’s billions.
padam
Billy Beane. Last time the Mets approached him…
He’d have to sell his share in the A’s and would probably be the most costly for the Mets if they went down that road.
Cosmo2
Fans would hate it though because he won’t be all giddy about pushing payroll to 300 million.
When it was a game.
Who ever they hire just do a basic Google search. Don’t go by their application.
Rsox
I don’t think the Mets present Theo with the challenge of ending a long drought that he is accustomed to. Going to Cleveland and ending the Indians/Guardians championship drought would give Theo godlike status, going to the Mets to fix BVW/Alderson’s mess probably doesn’t interest him.
The Mets are going to be busy overhauling the front office as well as the Manager/Coaching staff as i cannot see Rojas or any of the coaches being brought back next season
Cosmo2
Problems is that Cleveland would be on a tight budget; Theo hasn’t really had success in that way.
Rsox
Maybe. But if anyone could do it Theo could
Cosmo2
True. I shouldn’t really have said “problem”. It would just be a different kind of challenge for him, is what I meant.
jessaumodesto
Still pissed that he traded Canseco for Ruben Sierra, Bobby Witt and Jeff Russell
Rsox
From everything I’ve read over the years it was partly a case of Canseco wearing out his welcome in Oakland and the Rangers willingness to take on the remaining three years of his contract while basically gifting Oakland Bobby Witt to seal the deal to be rid of Ruben Sierra, who was widely panned as a clubhouse cancer all through the 90’s
When it was a game.
Around that time Sierra and Juan Gonzalez were two superstars in the corners.
Rsox
Yea. Gonzalez was playing a lot of CF in those days because the Rangers wanted Kevin Reimer’s lefty bat in the lineup.
It’s hard to believe a team that had such players as Gonzalez, Sierra, Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Dean Palmer, Julio Franco, Nolan Ryan, Kevin Brown, and others never really sniffed the playoffs til several of them were gone
padreforlife
All juicers
Joseph McBrody
Juan Gonzalez was so good for a short period of time, but all he cared about were his stats. He had zero desire to win at all, similar to Mike Trout today.
Cosmo2
Trout has “zero desire to win”? Wow, can’t wait to see you try and back up that absolute nonsense with any sort of reality.
When it was a game.
I wouldn’t say no desire but I see where mcbrody is coming from. He seems like well we tried type guy and waits for next year.
When it was a game.
Whole league was juicing so even playing ground.
sufferforsnakes
“Don’t bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me…..”
Cosmo2
What’s he supposed to do? Break a water cooler in half in front of the press? This is the kind of crap NY fans gave to Ewing all those years.
sfes
Trout doesn’t try to win? You’re an idiot. He’s better than anyone in the game and his team has no pitching. Yeah his fault. Just imagine if he did start trying. He’d hit 3,000 HR! Shame on Mike Trout for not pitching shutouts for the Angels
sfes
Yeah Cosmo growing up a Mets/Knicks fan was hard enough in the 80s and 90s especially when every idiot with an opinion starts that “no desire to win/can’t handle NY pressure” BS. Ewing ran into Jordan, Miller, and Olajuwan in 94 (that one broke my 12 year old heart)
jim stem
I think every player you just mentioned was loaded with steroids – except Ryan. Just look at the baseball cards and how their necks increased in thickness in the off season. What exercise do you do in a baseball clubhouse that makes your neck double in size?!?!
TheRealMilo
Definitely the epicenter of MLB juicing in the 90’s. The Ranger’s clubhouse had more PED usage than the Russian Olympic weightlifting team. Gonzalez got so juiced and massive he could barely stretch his arm out enough to throw the ball in from RF. Palmeiro and Canseco have been well documented. Kevin Brown would have two or three fits of roid rage per start. Franco was a chain smoker whose cardio routine was wearing 25lbs of gold chains around his neck – and yet he too was jacked. Someday those years would be well served by an HBO Comedy series.
Monkey’s Uncle
Whoever they interview, I suggest vetting them this time. Crazy idea, I know, but maybe they should just try it and see.
andremets
“So, what is your view of texting women…with naked pictures of yourself?”
tstats
I nominate MetsFan22
sufferforsnakes
If it gets him off this site, I second that motion.
bobtillman
A perfect candidate has just been relieved of his duties: SEAN SPICER!!!!
(And he dances with the stars, too!).
sfes
“THIS WAS THE LARGEST OPENING DAY GAME VIEWED ONLINE AND IN PERSON EVER. PERIOD!” what a friggin clown
MonkeySpanker
Falvey – please take him. We’ll throw in Levine too.
padreforlife
Take AJ Preller
Orel Saxhiser
The Mets will hire whoever agrees to work with Fanboy Cohen looking over their shoulder. That probably eliminates the best candidates.
Pads Fans
AJ Preller makes sense too. It would be a promotion for him. He is a native of Long Island.
sufferforsnakes
Just because they’re from there doesn’t mean they want to go there now.
Pads Fans
We can hope, right?
Deleted Userrr
Preller is already the point guard in San Diego. Unless he gets a stake in ownership this would be a lateral move for him.
Bob_Laublaw
Cohen is a long time friend and business partner with the Wilpons. Hes of the same ilk and mentality. Obviously none of us know for sure what motivates folks whom don’t know personally,but what would be the draw for executives of the caliber of Beane and Epstein to come to the Mets? Many believe Epstein could be commissioner. Beane seems to have a good thing going on in Oakland and has turned down the Red Sox among other big market teams in the past. I don’t think these guys would see the Mets as a challenge I think they’d see it as getting into bed with a dysfunctional partner. The Mets will be forced to settle for a pick outside of their top 5 choices. It just isn’t an attractive position unless Cohen is giving away a HUGE stake in ownership. Maybe just try not hiring an super-agent with no experience as a manager of anything, ever, and walk a middle ground. The Mets don’t even have to genius just stop being so damn dumb.
Pads Fans
5% stake in the Mets is worth $100 million. It is almost guaranteed to go up in value.
When it was a game.
So you are in the same mindset and are just like everyone you work with?
Bob_Laublaw
Goes a bit beyond that. The Wilpons actually made money on the Madoff ponzi scheme. They withdrew much more than they “lost”. Thats why they were sued. The DA believed the Wilpons “knew or should have known” what was going on, being that they were career investors and personal buds with Bernie. It wasn’t like when Kevin Bacon lost his savings to Madoff. He got taken in. The Wilpons probably didn’t tho we will never know for sure. Cohen has had his own issues with white collar crime and given the closeness of their relationship and as a stakeholder with the Mets I find it hard to believe that Cohen didn’t know or should have known what was going on. They’re a little like the mob just white collar. Believe what you want but Cohen is more a continuation of the old guard than he is a fresh start. I do believe that Cohen and Wilpon are the same type of person. He even talks like an old mobster in his interviews. I don’t waaaant anybody learning the job on my dime, etc. Wilpon spent money. A lot of people say they were cheap but I’d argue they were just arrogant and made poor baseball organizational decisions. Cohen was there the whole time in business and friendship and I have seen nothing so far to differentiate between Cohen and Fred Wilpon.
sfes
You’re right. They spent money but stupidly. They were cheap when they weren’t supposed to be. ie passing on Vlad Guerrero in FA, Jason Bay instead of Matt Holliday, etc.
Cosmo2
Bob: I really don’t think current draft position is a big factor in whether or not someone is willing to stake millions of dollars into the team. Kind of a naive fan take there.
dodger1958
Steve Cohen was suspended by the SEC for two years from engaging in certain types of trades. He was found to have failed to oversee inside trading of one of his employees. His firm had previously been fined 600 M in civil penalties and paid 1.2 B to resolve criminal charges. In addition his firms have a history of sexual discrimination lawsuits.
He is known as a hands on manager. Like he is displaying with his team. Not much different at all than the Wilpons mindset.
busmannyc
Hire Omar Minaya. The fan base doesn’t care if he was loyal to the Wilpons. He’s a very talented scout as well
Orel Saxhiser
Cohen or Team Arod. It’s amazing how the Mets’ sale came down to those two. Either way, it was destined to be a bad result for Mets fans.
Early returns on Cohen are not good. He apparently sees himself as a superman who will cure all the Mets’ problems and has a penchant for making everything about him. His Twitter activity is telling. Cohen has no more understanding of how to build a successful MLB team than the fans he engages.
The Lindor deal will hamstring whoever takes over the baseball operation for years. Not the trade itself, but overpaying on an extension when there was no need or pressure to do so. For this reason, he’ll probably do what the Wilpons did when hiring Van Wagenen: give the job to whichever person claims he can deliver a contender overnight. That’s not how it works in Major League Baseball. Then there are the unsavory behind-the-scenes issues that need fixing. Good luck to him trying to sweep that stuff under the rug.
It should be an interesting winter in Flushing, Queens. A few more months of Cohen will have longtime Mets fans pining for the good old days when, at a Mets board meeting, one of Lorinda DeRoulet’s daughters asked if it was really necessary to use different baseballs every game.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Tiger fans will chip in if the Mets take Al Avila.
Cohen could save/make MILLIONS or possibly BILLIONS if all the kids pitch in their lunch money…..
Easy money, Cohen….easy money…..
brucenewton
Fire Alderson, the one constant.
jim stem
Serious question: just what DOES Alderson do in the front office that no one else in the organization has a say in?
Just wondering why all the Alderson hate. Looking back at the opening day SPRING TRAINING roster, was any team deeper or seemingly more prepared than the Mets?
Then factor in that on September 1, the Mets had some of the best defensive numbers in the league?
Stroman pitching day ins and day out like an ace?
Walker still healthy and competing in midSeptember?
That an unknown rookie named Megill was pitching like a seasoned vet in August and September?
That they would add Baez and a starter at the trade deadline for an injured minor leaguer? AND then add Rich Hill to rotation?
All these FACTS and yet we are once again under .500, not being able to put away the Marlins, Pirates or the Nationals.
Too much binder baseball, not enough instinctive experience. These hitting instructor types whose only claim to fame is understanding data, need to go sit in an office, not in a uniform in the dugout.
dodger1958
The Dodgers were “seemingly” much better prepared.
Orel Saxhiser
Tylor Megill’s August ERA was 6.44. Taijuan Walker’s over his last 11 starts is 7.33.
Overall, the talent is not good. Teams such as this don’t trade top prospects for rentals.
andremets
Braves were 5 back at the deadline and under 500. They picked up a couple of rentals and boom, 1st place.
Bob333
Whatever the Mutts do with the front office situation it will be a problem.You can’t change the stripes of a zebra and birds of a feather flock together.It will be fun to watch and read.Whoever they bring in the fans will have them in 1st place and winning it all.
Yep it is
Byrnes would be horrible. OMG what are they thinking. Ranger fans would probably pay to get Daniels out of there. When you look up Disaster in the dictionary his face is next to it. Really this is NY Baseball and these 2 Trainwrecks are the candidates??
Big phil
Ok listen geniuses Rojas needs to go conforto definitely needs to go sign baez stroman and offer thor a put up or shut up one year.as far as managers how about Keith hernandez or Lee mazz offer at least and maybe longer coach as pitching coach
AgeeHarrelsonJones
The Mets are not good.