9:56 PM: The Cardinals plan to have their next manager in place by mid-November, per The Athletic’s Katie Woo. With the rest of the coaching staff remaining intact, it makes sense that the Cards could be relatively quick with their manager hire.
7:06 PM: The speculation has already begun on who might replace Mike Shildt as the next manager of the St. Louis Cardinals. The popular internal candidates appear to be Oliver Marmol and Stubby Clapp, per Jon Morosi of the MLB Network (via Twitter).
St. Louis usually likes to promote from within, and both Marmol and Clapp have surfaced before as candidates for managerial openings. Neither, then, would be a shocking choice, though given the surprising nature of Shildt’s release, anything could be on the table. Without knowing the real nature of the disconnect between Shildt and Cardinals’ president of baseball ops John Mozeliak, it’s tough to speculate on potential targets.
Players in San Diego, however, are hearing that former Cardinal fan favorite Skip Schumaker might be a candidate for the role, per Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune (via Twitter). There would be support from Padres’ players were Schumaker considered as the Padres’ next manager, notes Acee, though it’s not clear yet what direction President of Baseball Ops A.J. Preller will lean.
I would rather than an outside hire, but Clapp brought magic to Memphis so maybe he can do the same for St. Louis
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The Cardinals have turned into a sh!tstorm really quick. Less than a week ago I was hearing a bunch of nonsense from a ton of Cardinals fans about how they were going to beat the best 2 teams in baseball in a row and on the road both times. Then they were going to pull 2 more upsets on the road to win it all. Now they are 1 and done and have fired their manager whom people were speculating was about to get an extension even though he had a full year left on his contract. Congratulations on being the worst playoff team in baseball, Cardinals fans. You seemed mighty proud about that last week. What happened? You lose 1 road game against a 106 win team who has Max Scherzer on the mound and now your team has become a complete dumpster fire. I guess St. Louis didn’t have so much conviction in their team as they pretended after all.
Did I miss something or were the Mets sitting at home watching the Cardinals playing thier one and done?
Just a reminder that the Mets led the division for quite a while this season and finished with a losing record…
@metsmissedwar…this has to be the dumbest comment ever…yea I mean the cardinals lost but don’t act like that game couldn’t have gone either way…don’t worry your Braves will be out soon enough…the cardinals were better than the Brewers and Braves this post season…the cardinals had a better record than the Braves and proved that the Brewers weren’t much by winning 6 out of 7 against them at the end of the season; a 4 game sweep at Miller park(yes I know that’s wrong)…still proud of the Cardinals…please explain how firing the manager makes this a dumpster fire…they still have one of, if not the best defenses in baseball, a ton of money to spend, and a solid farm system
I guess that sweep at Citi Field, that all but eliminated them from the postseason, sent him into a state of psychotic delusion.
Wow! Someone missed punctuation and sentence writing in school!
Make no mistake… the cardinals beat mad max… end of story.. he looked horrible in the 1 and done and the cards actually gave the dodgers all they wanted in that game. Ya, we lost, bit in the bottom of the 9th… the team that shouldn’t have been there almost threw the “glorious” dodgers over the edge. Get your facts straight.. you are spare parts bud
All you do is come here and vomit. Mets and your Brew Crew are both out, stop trying to bait people.
He is a Braves fan mocking Metfan22
I hate the Mets and the Brew Crew are out because my team booted them out. You were the guys coming in here saying crap like “The Cardinals are wayyy better than the Braves, Brewers, Astros and Red Sox.” Now Cards81 is literally saying “the Cardinals were better than the Brewers and the Braves this post season.” He literally just said that. The Braves are in the Championship Series because they went 3-1 and the Brewers at least won a game in the postseason. How could the Cardinals be “better than the Brewers and the Braves this post season?” They went 0-1! You can’t get any worse than that and he’s pretending it’s better than a team who went 3-1 to make it to the NLCS. For the record I don’t think the Cardinals did that bad. I just think it’s ridiculous that everyone thought they were going to be so good in the playoffs (which they never were) and now that they lost the one game those same people are being like, “Yeah. It was worse than I was pretending. It’s probably a good thing the manager who I was so proud of a week ago is getting fired.” It’s ridiculous. There is no thought or analysis put into those opinions whatsoever. These guys think if the Cardinals make it to the playoffs they will probably win it all. Then, if the Cardinals fire their manager they probably should have. They aren’t even thinking about anything other than some garbage time wins in September against teams who didn’t care anymore because their playoff fates were already sealed. Either the Cardinals weren’t that good under Shildt’s management or Shildt should not be fired. You can’t have it both ways. They have such a homer mentality. The Cardinals are always “very good and going to win in the playoffs because they are wayyy better than the other playoff teams” and “all the decisions the Cardinals make regarding firing their manager are good decisions” for one reason and one reason only. It’s not because any of it is true. It’s because the person saying it is a Cardinals fan and they just want what they’re saying to be true. The people saying this nonsense only say it because they want the Cardinals to win. That is the beginning of the thought. That is the end of the thought. It’s a very stupid way to formulate and opinion.
You are obsessed with the Cardinals and it’s weird…what’s stupid is your assumptions…get over it weirdo
The Braves will get swept…bet on it
Before the Cards-Dodgers game several self described Card’s fans were very vocal about how the Dodgers were going to beaten. Some even posted on this thread. If the Dodgers are fortunate enough to beat the Giants would those same Card fans please predict a Braves win?
What assumptions did I make? I literally was pointing out things Cardinals fans specifically said to me on this exact website over the past week. I didn’t assume anything. Cards81… You were the one that literally just said “the Cardinals were better than the Brewers and the Braves this post season.” You literally just said a team that went 0-1 in the playoffs was better in the postseason than a team that went 3-1 in the playoffs. That is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. That’s like me saying the Pirates were better than the Cardinals in the regular season. Not only is it not true but it’s so easy to prove wrong. A team that goes 3-1 to make it to the NLCS is better in the postseason than a team that goes 0-1 and can’t win a single playoff game. Everyone knows that. No wonder the Cardinals lost. Their fans think that going 0-1 in the postseason is better than going 3-1. That was easily one of the dumbest comments I have read in a long time. It rivals Metsfan22 and that Don’tBringBackFreeman guy for dumbest things ever said.
First off I clearly meant that going into the post season the cardinals were a better team than the Brewers and Braves…sorry if you didn’t pick up on that…obviously the Brewers or Braves would be better in the playoffs if they play more than one game…common sense you are lacking…once again the cardinals had a better record than the Braves and dominated the Brewers in the end…so I hope that clears things up for you…good luck getting swept by whoever advances..sorry I schooled you last time we talked and you have to try and make up on it …and it is weird that you think all cardinals fans think this or that because of you…weird
FYI we (Braves) came into St.Louis and beat you All 3 games so you know what you can do with your better than we are crap.
@cardsfan
Be proud about almost winning.
Not every team can be the Dodgers.
Chump
I don’t anyone sweeps anyone. The Braves are very good.
Think anyone
@Cards81 So it’s going to be 4-0 for the Dodgers? I’m asking for a friend.
That’s my memory of Clapp also.
I am wondering if you are willing to put your money where your mouth is @cardsfan81
I know I wouldn’t put money on that happening. I think the Braves are a damn good team as proven beating the brewers who were no slouch team. They might not win the series but they take a game atleast.
@raidersam89
“Sentence-writing” should be hyphenated.
Sorry. I hadda.
The Cards see this as an opportunity to grab Luis Rojas as their manager. Carpe Diem! LOL
That’s the cards fans way of thinking. When they are doing good that’s all you here about but when they are bad it’s crickets
Mets fans always forget
How is this even remotely close to a “complete dumpster fire?”
The Cardinals should just go ahead and hire Molina to be the first player/manager since Pete Rose. He already said he’s going to retire from playing at the end of the year and the Cardinals are probably going to eventually hire him for that job anyway. Since they need a manager right now they might as well give Molina the job 1 year early. If they don’t he could end up taking the job somewhere else next season and the Cardinals could miss their opportunity. Catchers tend to make great managers. David Ross and Joe Torre were both catchers. They have to be able to call games even when they are players. Plus, seeing a player manager in the game again would at least make it more interesting. I can’t think of a better opportunity than the St. Louis Cardinals doing it with Yadier Molina in the last year of his playing career. If it doesn’t happen now it probably never will happen again. Except for maybe Ohtani. Apparently that guy can do anything. I’m just joking with Ohtani but I really think the Cards should consider making Yadi a player manager next year. People would love to see it again and I don’t think anyone can deny he’s probably the best candidate in baseball.
The Cardinals just keep getting older.
@dcahen: I agree. The Cardinals have an aging expensive core. That’s not how you win. Goldy is still good but expensive and not young. Arenado is starting to decline and vastly overpaid. Flaherty doesn’t even really want to be there and probably won’t for long. Waino and Yadi are elderly in MLB years. That’s not how you build a core. Those are players you should add to an already great core. Where are the cheap young stars like Riley, Fried, Albies and Acuna? Riley made darn near the league minimum last season and he is already better than Arenado. The Cardinals are a team in their twilight at best and more likely a team in decline. I expect the Brewers to win the division again next season. Not because they are THAT great but because they will easily be better than the geezer Cardinals for a long time. That Arenado deal was dumb even with a $50 million discount. Arenado is not going to be worth anywhere near that going forward. He’s already in decline for God’s sakes. Look at the cheaper 3rd baseman who are already better than him. Why pay that much if you can’t even get the best player at the position?
Yes, Brooklyn’s former team has bought another Ring
Signed
A Cardinals Fan
Manager should have been Jose Oquendo for last 10 years! WBC PUERTO RICAN Manager…Loved by the players…90% of team is spanish speaking! ONLY HOLD UP…Mo’s deal breaker!
Press conferences!! Jose isnt going to tell the reporters EVERY NIGHT how amazing Carlos martinez was for making it to the pitchers mound even though he cant make it through the 1st inning!
Or do the Mike Matheny..These Men Are TRYING TO WIN..and they all get ice cream for that!
Yadi as Player manager? LOL, the cardinals press conference is MO’s propaganda ops! Yadi wont talk to media now…who thinks he will start doing that? Anyone know WHY HE DOESNT???
Because CARDINALS AMAZING FANS…Made fun of Pujols for saying Mang(Man) and his misplaced words…more than once Albert had to respond to the media with-English isnt my first language and I mispoke…Yadi watched that and said he will stick with the pitchers for someone to talk with!
Since it wont be Jose…Jim Edmonds will be the guy! 100% because he lambasted town and country city hall with speeches! Has a failing restuarant he needs help promoting and Cards wont need to pay a manager more than 50k!
IF its carlos Beltran..it wont help banging trash cans even for Matt Carpenter!
That idea about using Yadi as a player / manager probably has a lot of merit as seen by DeWitt. He could cut payroll and boost his bottom line! I’m a big Yadi fan but I think you need calm and collected in a field manager. Shildt was all of that. I’m not so sure Yadi is. I would like to see Yadi playing less and mentoring a new catcher more. He’s not going to be playing forever and we’ve already lost a good catcher in Kelly because he got no playing time. His BA has gone up at least 60 points since going to AZ and getting regular play.
As a Cubs fan, I can honestly say that I would support anything that brings Clapp to the Cardinals.
Touché.
Clapp is ok if he comes with a healthy dose of penicillin.
Well done, lol
Well the cubs have terminal syphilis and Chemo worked for 1 year! I say the Entire league fields a AAA team Vs. Cubs all season and they will still lose 120 game and lock up the first draft pick for next 5 years like they did last time!
Sucks the Cards pick 21-30 every year..Still draft better than cubs and only trade off the entire minor league team when tony was here!
Who was the last pitcher the Cubs developed? Dont say the dead arms mark prior/Kerry wood!
your username is my favorite lol
I’d rather speculate about the reason shildt was fired than wonder whos replacing him just quite yet.
Especially since John Mozeliak looked the way he did and is being so quite about it, and Jeff Albert still has a job? It if you ask me has alot to do with the different approach several Cardinals players used in the month of September, but I’m also the Ghost of Ripper Collins so who’d believe me?
They will use a manaquin..mo will text the lineup and pitching changes from his box..with the nerdy kid feeding the algorithm info sitting next to him!
They dont want gut feelings involved and ONLY WANT A cheerleader positive they tried hard guy at the press conference!
Shildt was fired because he LOOKED LIKE A MORON @press conference saying he would Not change a thing if he could do it all over! He Blew up Reyes arm then his confidence this year..RIGHT when that kid FINALLY got his Rookie Card value up so I could sell it for more than 50cents!
I love your username. I’ve been an irrationally strong Eli Morgan supporter his whole time in the system lol
Time for Ozzie Guillen to manage again!!
If they are going to hire Stubby Clapp, its a good thing that ROMAN is an official sponsor of MLB. Don’t want to start the season in quarantine again!
Stubby clapp is an amazing name. 20 WAR easily
It’s a tough illness to have, though.
Stubby Clapp managing Lars Nootbar. That’s quite the dynamic duo.
If he’s who they hire, Flaherty will be pitching on short rest a lot. It’s tough to have a Jack off day when you have Clapp.
Mozeliak and his staff gave Shildt disjointed rosters to work with. For 3 years Shildt had to work though the mess, yet he he brought the team home in the stretch run playing good ball. Typical FO that spends big on a few veteran contracts, then is frustrated when the team doesn’t win because most of the remining players are sub-standard.
This reminds me of when Jerry Jones let Jimmy Johnson go for “philosophical differences” – meaning that Johnson built the Cowboys Super Bowl terams and Jones wanted the credit. In Jones case he was the owner, and only won since that time when he hired Bill Parcells to coach the team and left him alone. Then Jerry went back to making personnel decisions and the Cowboys haven’t done much since.
Mike Shildt is wedded to Cardinal / Branch Rickey way of developing players and playing the game. I have no idea where Mozeliak is coming from, other than to say that the Cardinal farm system no longer produces a good amount of quality pitchers and fundamentally strong position players.
Owner William DeWitt, Jr. would do well to keep Mr. Schilt’s phone number available in the future – although I’d guess someone will snap him up first. Mets?
“ Cardinal farm system no longer produces a good amount of quality pitchers and fundamentally strong position players”
On the Cardinals team that have produced for the cardinals…Flaherty, Hudson, Hicks..pitchers they produced that have been traded… Alcantara(Miami’s ace), Gomber and Weaver(solid 3 Rotation arms) Gallen( part of the Ozuna trade that got traded to the Diamondbacks and a top rotation arm)
I know that the cardinals have traded for some top position players like Goldy and Arenado but most teams have gotten plenty of value with trades from the cardinal…Carson Kelly and luke voit for example…you are way off with your assumptions
I’m almost positive I have left off many players the cardinals have produced that have done well
It was Barry Switzer who won the other Super Bowl for Dallas and not Bill Parcells.
Oh please……
Barry Switzer won one year with the players Jimmy Johnson brought in and trained.
Sorry…told you I would forget…Randy A with Tampa bay…rookie of the year probably..I forget another one..you also have Pham
@ cards81;
I understand you’re a big fan. But I think you’re missing it.
You noted the Cards played well in August and September going into the playoffs. Yes, they did. I wrote the other day that Shildt was given disjointed rosters, sorted things out and had the team playing well during the stretch run the past 3 years. This is what managers are supposed to do.
I don’t miss on trends. The Cardinals have been in a downtrend since they won their championship in 2011. They got to the WS in 2013 as well, but slowly the team was regressing and has continued to.
Sorry, I’ve not at all been impressed with Mozeliak. Highly touted guys such as Bader, Carlson, O’Neill, Knizner, and numerous pitchers I’ve forgotten and am too lazy to look up have some nice streaks at times. I like Edman a lot, but he’s really been a guy that like McNeill with the Mets that I also like a lot, both fall short of being impact players. Overall most Cardinal players come out as role players. Check out the Mets – they too have a lot of nice guys that play uneven and are basically role players with a few stars sprinkled in.
Also keep in mind that the Cardinals had the 6th highest payroll in the past year and are consistently in the top 20% in payroll. It seems to me that the money is not being used wisely.
I’d guess that a new manager might come in and give the team a dead cat bounce in 2022. But it’s always something – some major player will get injured, another will have a bad year, etc. Under Mozeliak the Cardinals simply do not perform. First he blamed Methany, now Schildt. A team is where they perform greater then the sum of the parts – i.e. the individual statistics don’t reflect how good the team performs on the field. For decades the Cardinals played well and overperformed as a team. Again, since the 2011 championship season the team has slowly regressed, with little blips up here and there – but hardly preforming as a WS type contender.
Shildt going to the Friars. Preller already burning up the phones. Believe Mets are looking for veteran manager.
Actually, Samuel, you’re wrong about the Cowboys. The won the SB with Barry Switzer as HC; Parcells came later.
DeWitt III is the current owner. His dad was DeWitt Jr. Shildt should get picked up quickly by the Pads if they are smart. His philosophical ‘failing’ was that he wanted to win more than the owner …who’s in this to make more money. The Pads owners sure aren’t afraid to spend money to win. I’d love to see Shildt go there and take that talented team to the WS while the Cards continue to squander the best remaining years of their core regular position players because they won’t spend what’s needed to get some better pitching.
Stubby Clapp sounds like someone who managed Rogers Hornsby.
I say no the Skip and it either be Clapp or from outside. I think Shildt made some poor choices and Reyes was the nail in the coffin. Crap and I mean Carp should of never played a game and should of just wrote him a check and let him go. Not winning the division never helped as well. I wish him well as the Padres or Mets next manager I believe. I think he’s old school to come to terms with analytics.
Nats 2019 rotation and Dodgers 2020 and 2021 rotations vastly superior to dirty birds. Schildt should not brought in Reyes in wild card game in 9th, but I still think that dirty birds were slight overachievers.
Win the division? Brew crew rotation was vastly superior, Reds rotation was slightly better. Waino overachieved power to him but the rest of the starting pitching was not much, maybe Kim had potential.
As I’ve written……..
The Cardinals tradition went high-tech and is alive and well in Houston.
Jeff Luhnow brought analytics to the Cardinals, built the farm system that brought them their last championship, all of which Mozeliak took credit for. On his own Mozeliak and his staff are a bit below ordinary – forcing them to take on big salaries in trade. Sort of a lightweight version of the Yankees.
The Cardinals were one of the best – if not the best – organizations in baseball. That hasn’t been true for a while. None of which is due to Mike Schildt.
It’s sad what is about to happen to St. Louis baseball……especially for the Cardinals fans that understand the sport and have remained so loyal..
An epic day in St. Louis Cardinals history. It will take a decade to repair the damage….if it’s ever repaired.
Since it started I’ve watched a lot of Cardinals games on MLB-TV.
The players they’ve been running out there the past 5-7 years have been continually getting worse. (Watching Jose Martinez butcher balls on D was unCardinal-like). Paul Goldschmidt did not make the D-Backs a perennial winner, not did Nolan Arenado do it for the Rockies. It’s takes a quality roster, and the Cardinals owner is kidding himself if he thinks they have one.
That’s a clown comment bro. Coaches get fired all the time and what do they have to repair? They have 11 titles and compete every year.
Samuel has watched baseball for over 150 years. Who are you to disagree?
Can always count on you Steve, keep on keeping on.
STLBirds86;
Actually it’s yours that’s a clown comment little boy.
And yes, Steve is a wonder. He can look at a spreadsheet and tell you everything you need to know without understanding how to play the game or watching any.
Takes one to know one.
He played pepper with Abner Doubleday back in the day.
Peaks and valleys bro. 1 losing season in 20 years is pretty hard to argue against.
Goldschmidt and Arenado are solid additions to the Cards, even though Goldy’s slow starts to the season are tough. Not sure if that’s what you’re saying, but it’s hard to criticize those moves. None of the players we traded have done anything meaningful for their teams. Not saying they are bad, but we’re not missing them.
Lynn has been solid this year and is a real candidate for Cy Young. He’s always been a strong innings eater. Kelly has been an excellent defensive catcher for AZ and has raised his BA 60 points with regular play. His average this season was 25 points higher than Yadi’s. That will continue to improve. Luke Weaver was doing fine for the Diamondbacks until his arm blew out. Voit led the majors in HRs for NY last year. Who else were you thinking of?
you should note that mike Matheny was manager before mid-2018
And the team played progressively worse every year under Matheny took over a well oiled machine from LaRussa in 2012. Their bullpen arms got burnt out, the defense went into the tank and these pros started running the bases like little leaguers and making more errors than any other team in the NL. It was sad to watch happen. Even as dramatic as their decline was they still had enough raw talent and a great farm system to remain a winning team.
Stop posting Samuel…you make no sense
Sorry but this is a laughable comment. Mo sucks, it’s true and has made some bad moves….but a manager has very little actual impact on a game. The Cardinals are far from dead.
The Cardinals will follow the White Sox model of bringing back a Hall of Famer. Stay tuned for the press release.
Herzog, who turns 90 on November 9, hasn’t managed since 1990 when the Cardinals fired him after a 33-47 start.
He quit. Not fired.
So did Jon Gruden…
As a Brewer fan I was shocked actually. The Cardinals started hitting and the bullpen was solid the last month. Wainwright may have over performed, but Flarehty (sp) will be fine next year and possibly Hudson. Why change the mojo. Unless the Brewers spend on a bat like Castellanos, if they can afford it, they will have a hard time challenging the red birds
id be surprised if the brewers do anything but cut payroll. and trade Hader for prospects.
Bradley has a big player option and Yelich goes up to 26 mil next year.
Stern Is as Wiley as they get though. wish the Cards could snag him.
Milwaukee knows they are only a couple of impact bats away from competing for a title again. I think Milwaukee will surprise a lot of people and add some serious offense & payroll to their team. Maybe Castellanos & Schwarber? Those two in the lineup would really change the Brewers immensely.
If the Brewers add offense no doubt they will be a great team…the cardinals will and should be easily on the Brewers level…they have money to spend and really a complete team…I think they should sign Verlander to a short term HAV contract and add Story at shortstop…add a bullpen arm and they will easily compete for a WS next year
Surprising but I get it. If they hadn’t made the playoffs I think he gets fired for sure. The way he managed Reyes in the final 3 weeks was fireable on its own.. Bringing him in for the WC game was the most ill advised moves I can recall. Reyes had no confidence in himself by that point.
The other thing I noticed this season was that he didn’t stand up for his players like most managers. Late season vs brews arranado almost got tossed for arguing a bad check swing call. 2 innings later same exact thing except the call was even worse. Somehow he didn’t get tossed then but he sure did when he came out of the dugout to take the field and crossed paths with that 1st base ump. (I’m not saying bring Tony back but you think he would let Nolan get thrown out in that situation?)
Not one sign of Schildt stepping in and protecting his guy on 2 really bad check swing calls.
Next inning same thing happened to brews, council was right in that umps face and got tossed. Brews walk it off the next inning, via Reyes if I’m not mistaken.
I know they love Skip Schumacher. I wouldn’t mind Jose Oqiendo getting a shot.
Be interesting to see what leaks out regarding the “philosophical differences “
I think Oquendo has made it pretty clear he’s not interested in that commitment. Wish he was.
I always thought Jose Oquendo would become a manager with his many years in the game
Jose O would make a great manager except for one thing – his English is not strong enough to deal with the media every day so he would need an interpreter. That’s become a big part of every managers job and Jose has said no before. Besides that, he’s getting old and tired. He loves the warm Florida weather and no travel. Why would he even consider taking on a job with all the headaches, all the politics, all the travel? If he still has his wits he will turn down any offer flat.
Is there such a thing as so much fan displeasure toward a certain individual that the owner would finally decide to fire the guy? Mozeliak has got to be the most hated in the organization. Where is the GM anyway? What does he do? Remember Walt Jocketty actually made decisions as a GM? Now it’s just JoMo. I think he needs to go. Not saying Shildt doesn’t. Would like to see more analytics. But so does Mo.
1 losing season in 20 year under Mo. What would want to see change? Always competitive, develops talent, good farm.
I’ll give you that he has traded away some good players but he’s gotten value back for all of them.
At first glance, I thought Stumpy Pepys was being mentioned as a managerial candidate, but then I remembered he died in a bizarre gardening accident that the authorities said was “best left unsolved”…
I caught some stubby clapp in college…not fun!
Could be worse. Imagine having the expectation of success under Hoyer and Ross. I will stick with Mo and no manager instead of that circus.
Well that’s because you are an idiot.
St. Louis will make a trade with Universal. Clapp for The Wolf Man.
Excellent comment. Now that you mentioned it, the Universal Monsters would make an interesting baseball team. The Invisible Man would be an ace pitcher.
I hear the invisible man doesn’t hide the ball well.
Stubby’s other nickname is drippy.
“Here’s to my big opening.”
–Elvira, Mistress of the Dark
This confirms it’s obviously an internal hire if they plan to have the next manager in place by mid-November.
As a Padres fan love to see them promote Schumaker and him to bring Shildt aboard as a bench coach.
My first thought is always “When your last name is ‘Clapp’, you really shouldn’t call yourself Stubby”. But then, if his name is Richard I guess Dick Clapp wouldn’t be an improvement.
Hearing the news about Shildt leaves me with the same feeling watching Randy Arozarena steal home gave me. This guy was obviously too good. We had to get rid of him.
Two questions that I have no answers to but how did the Cardinals brass not notice these “philosophical differences” in the prior 15+ years of Shildt’s service to club, especially as the manager the prior two seasons? Why does Mozeliak still have his job?
“Philosophical differences.” The team might be called the Cardinals, but that’s a chickenshit explanation.
current cardinal coaches under consideration probably know what went on and my not want any part of the puppet show. same for skip55 and any other possible manager. they might have a difficult time meeting their mid november goal.
arenado just informed dewitt he’s opting out now
Just for giggles, where would you see Arenado signing? Let’s start some rumors!
who knows? i’m sure he would get plenty of attention
NY of course!
If the Padres hire Schumaker that would be a joke.Bochy is the best choice but he will want
full control and Preller won’t give that up.
Why is Bochy the best choice?
Old school leaves.
New school stays.
I think Marmol is the guy. Is known to be loved by the clubhouse and the front office. Is young (35) and is a strong analytics believer. Also Spanish speaking as first language but also speaks very fluent English. Plus with Clapp staying on (maybe moving to bench coach to be Ollie’s lead Lieutenant)…opens up the 1B coaching job.
No to hiring anyone internal.(see Mike Shildt). No to hiring anyone based on Cardinal legacy. (see Mike Matheny). Yes to hiring an established manager from outside the organization. (see Tony La Russa). How hard is it?
i am not a Cardinals, Dodgers, or Braves fan. That said. In the WC game, the Cardinals were what they were most of the year. A team that couldn’t hit consistently with runners on. I think the guy was pointing out that the Cardinals had a better record than the Braves in the regular season. But the Dodgers were clearly a better team. I live in the middle of Cardinals Nation and I don’t know anyone who was proud of Shildt. I also think any manager who brings Reyes in with a do or die game on the line should probably be fired. Guy was awful in the second half. Shildt managed that WC game terribly. A would say a hitting coach is something they should consider.