The Mets are planning to part ways with the majority of their coaches, SNY’s Andy Martino reports. The club has told six members of the staff (bench coach Dave Jauss, first base coach Tony Tarasco, third base coach Gary DiSarcina, bullpen coach Ricky Bones, Major League field coordinator/catching coach Brian Schneider, and assistant pitching coach Jeremy Accardo) that they are free to look for jobs elsewhere.
Pitching coach Jeremy Hefner will also remain but perhaps not in his current position, as Hefner “and the Mets are discussing his future role.” Hitting coach Hugh Quattlebaum and assistant hitting coach Kevin Howard will be staying in the organization but will be reassigned to the minor leagues, as Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News reports that Howard will return to his former job as the director of player development.
Considering the Mets have already moved on from Luis Rojas as manager, it isn’t surprising that the club would also look for a clean slate with its coaching corps, thus giving the new manager some opportunity to hand-pick his own staff. As Martino notes, the Mets coaches were something of “a patchwork group that represented remnants of previous regimes,” which perhaps isn’t surprising given how many managerial and front office changes the Mets have made just in the last few years.
A good first step. Next step is to overhaul the players
And the commenters at Amazin’ Avenue. Buncha whiners and girls.
Sick burn
The Mets need to overhaul their owning staff. That Cohen guy has no clue how to own or run a baseball team. He doesn’t even have a clue who to hire to run the team for him. He also can’t seem to help himself from getting his employees drunk at his house and then sending them driving home.
It’s not his job to run the team. That’s the president’s job, who is Sandy Alderson. He certainly knows how to run an organization more than anyone.
I’m sorry, burn it from the ground up & start over. This team should be competitive
Sandy Alderson is not their team president
Alderson’s a train wreck. Keep Beane out of the picture.
I understand what Cohen/Alderson are trying to do – it’s what they have to do. Forget players for now – the entire organization has to be restructured so the team can grow over the next 3-7 years. The fans see the cornerstones – deGrom, Lindor, and Alonso – so they want to be a legitimate championship contender NOW. Sadly, that’s not realistic. The roster is – and has been for years – a hodgepodge of players with more weaknesses than strengths that are being used in roles they’re ill-suited for because of the roster construction.
They’ve got to get that payroll down to be flexible enough to bring in a few missing pieces when ready. They have to get young/cheap players with years of upside up to the majors and develop their skills – to do that there has to be an organizational philosophy and a coaching staff to carry it out. They can’t expect a championship contender relying on a batch of guys like Dom Smith, Davis, McNeil, Villar, Guillorme, McCann, Nido, Mazeika, May, Hand, Familia, and forever waiting on Syndergaard. They’re all nice guys and can help teams in roles, but they make up too much of a percentage of the team the Mets put on the field each game.
Cohen is a brilliant businessperson. He’s not George Steinbrenner throwing money at free agents. He’ll build an organization.
I hope you’re right but from what I can tell there’s a lot of fans gonna be very disappointed if Cohen doesn’t run out a 280 million plus payroll next year.
The luxury tax payroll in 2021 was already over $200MM, so him blowing it out into Dodger territory is not an impossibility. Problem is throwing good money after bad.
Yeah. I think you are all right basically. I think Cohen will eventually figure it out. The only question is how many team payroll crushing long term regrettable massive contracts is he going to hand out before that happens? Once he figures it out the fans are still going to have to deal with a decade of consequences from his past mistakes before it gets better. Does anyone remember when the Russian billionaire bought the NBA Nets? This kind of reminds me of that. People were so excited about his money but he was very naiive at the beginning. The Nets were terrible when he took over but he was the richest owner in the NBA so the fans got really hyped. He literally said, “I guarantee the Nets will win the Finals within 5 years of me taking over.” He then immediately spent a ton o money and traded his next 6 years worth of draft picks to take in terrible contracts for aging players like Joe Johnson and Kevin Garnett. He thought he could buy a championship right away until he realized he couldn’t. He eventually learned though and now over a decade later the Nets are finally good. That guy is about 25 years younger than Cohen is though so I don’t know if Cohen has that kind of time. Contracts in the NBA are nowhere near as long as MLB contracts. If he was going to make mistakes they needed to be on short term contracts. 4-11 year contracts for guys like Lindor and McCann can really ruin a team for a long time. I also don’t think Cohen is going to be willing to go much over the luxury tax unless he’s confident it’s to turn a playoff team into a champion. McCann of all people for $40 million? The Mets would have been so much better off just passing on McCann, Lindo and Cookie. Spend that mula chasing down Realmuto even if you have to beat the Phillies price. He would have still saved a ton of money and the catching problem would be 100% solved for a long time. It would have left him plenty of money to fix the other needs.
He just threw at least $100M too much at Lindor with a 10/341 deal, which doesn’t even start until 2022. Lindor wouldn’t get anywhere near that on the open market. So he overpaid by trading both talent, and then significantly overpaying financially by an amount that would fund the Tampa Bay Rays for several seasons.
We know he’s a great hedge fund manager. The history of MLB is filled with owners who were great at business and building a fortune that allowed them to buy a toy, a MLB team, but crappy when it comes to running that toy.
Cohen has hown he can massively overpay for a SS. He’s yet to show he can run a baseball team. His first year owning the Mets was a failure on multiple fronts. No need for me to list them here again.
Quite true. It’s understandable that we all expect Cohen to put in place an infrastructure will allow the Mets to be run more effectively, and instill believe he will, but there is zero evidence so far that he can do that. Remember, he was a minority owner for years, so he was familiar with the Mets issues before he took over, but that didn’t seem to help.
Running a sports-entertainment business that is structured around a CBA is quite different than the hedge fund world.
*I still* believe he will.
Alex cora?
Lol
Shoutout Jeremy Accardo lol. Former Jays closer for a second.
And a quick shout out to Christina Applegate!
Provides a new administration the opportunity to start fresh.
Great move. Gary Discarsina was probably the worst third base coach next to Tim Tuffle the Mets ever had. I’d keep Hefner as the pitching coach. Everyone else I would let the next gm/manager choose who they want
They can have Phil Nevin!
That Tuffle guy again.
Teuffel
Just keep Terry Collins away from the Mets
Dwight Golden for Manager!!
I don’t think its possible to manage from
jail
Gotti did. Why not Doc? Ahahahahaha!
who
is dwight golden
He’s the shower guy
Dwight Golden
Gooden
You have a better chance at Dwight Golden managaing than Dwight Gooden
Better chance of Dwight Schrute managing, for that matter.
… Assistant to the Manager
Bench coach
You don’t fire a guy named Ricky Bones. The Pirates should jump on him immediately, though.
Ricky Bones once injured his back getting out of a reclining chair while watching tv when he played for the Marlins
Sounds like a Mets injury
Bones was actually good and from what I’ve read was well-liked by the players. Though maybe they’re just looking for a fresh start (or he’s getting the blame for Diaz regressing since joining the Mets).
New front office. New Manager. New coaching staff. Same Mets…
Why would they reassign Hefner he’s done a great job
Yeah I’m hoping the keep Hef. Ultimately I think it should be up to the next manager who he wants as his pitching coach, but hopefully front office is able to convince him to let him keep his current role.
might allow new manager to interview Hef first before an actual reassignment
They should hire Mark DeRosa just to get him off of MLB network.
And MLB: The Show
As the article states, to give the new manager the ability to choose his own staff, who ever that may be.
Totally agree he done a great job
Gary DiSarcina is clueless, how does he have a job anywhere?
He was on Terry Collin’s staff. I don’t know why the Mets keep on listening to Terry Collins. He doesn’t know talent. He said no to keeping Daniel Murphy. He will probably say no to Conforto and the same thing will happen. Conforto will be a Met killer (Unless he goes closer to home (.Seattle ) He is from Oregon
Dave “King Kong” Kingman for the next Mets Manager!!
I have fond memories of Dave Kingman on account of being a student at the Naval Training Center in North Chicago in 1978. Dave was with the Cubs then and hit a number of memorable homers. This guy has a pretty good story about Kingman: https://1059thex.iheart.com/featured/mark-madden/content/2020-11-17-my-dave-kingman-story/
Rodcannon,
I know Dave Kingman mostly from the Mets. I lived in Chicago while Kingman was with the Cubs and he had his best year in 1979 MVP level. I remember the Great Lakes Naval Center and used to bump into you guys from time to time. Kingman was from Mount Prospect, Ill.
I remember Dave Kingman signing a FA deal with the Cubs, and getting a clause put in for a bonus if he broke the team rbi record. Hack Wilson had 191 in 1931. The front office mist have broken out in laughter the moment he left the room. Sure, Dave, sure. Anything you want!
I can see how Dave might have wanted to incentivize himself to produce RBIs. And imagine the stories about him if he broke Wilson’s record and the codicil came to light. Dave would look like a prescient baseball genius!
I thought you wanted/predicted Dwight Golden to manage the team jobe.
Dave Kingman is the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions.
When there were only four divisions in baseball, who is the only player to play in all four divisions in a single season.
And homered for each team…Mets, Padres, Angels & Yankees.
My favorite trivia question:
Who is the one person who served as Vice President and President without being elected to either office?
I voted for him.
Gerald Ford
Isn’t Dave Kingman already the Mets 1B? Oh wait…that’s Pete Alonso.
You’re really an odd bird. You spend more time cursing the Mets than even taking about your own “team.” When they were in first place you disappeared and posted under childish names until they collapsed…. then you came back to this name to start openly obsessing again. Did Keith bang your wife or something? I say this out of genuine concern. Your obsession is weird and unhealthy.
@sfes
I have never used another screen name. If you were a regular here instead of one of those fairweather, fly-by-nighters that only appears when the Mets do well or when the season is over, you would know this.
Why make up lies or obsess over me? Did I bang your mom or your wife? I say this out of genuine concern of how you rarely are on here, but come here to say something to me in your few appearances.
Now go hang out with your good buddy @whynot and the rest of the fairweather Mets fans that disappeared when the downward spiral started. Unless I’m your daddy, which your mom will have to prove, or unless I banged your wife when I was younger, move on.
Actually I’ve been on s this site since 05/06. -‘lifer So yeah. Nobody respects you.
You’re MetsFan22 with a brain basically. At least his excuse is youth and/or ignorance. I’m here all year long ama have been since they opened the site in the mid 2000s. Back when they were doing stories on young Hanley and Zimmerman. Grow up
You’ve been here since back then, but are rarely around when the Mets are losing.
And you make the false statement that I post with other names.
And funny thing about your Keith Hernandez statement. I’m one of the few that actually feels that he should be in the Hall as one of the best defensive 1Bs of all time.
But of course, you wouldn’t know these things with your sporadic appearances.
What’s your excuse? Grow up or get your information correct.
Yeah, no. MLBTR is my home page on all devices. I read every article and just because I don’t post on them all means nothing. I was here through the Mets collapses of 07 08 and this year, posting in fact. I’m always around when the Mets are losing cause they’re always losing! I had season tickets in some of the darkest years, 03, 04, early 90s. Soon as the Marlins dropped and the Mets were winning this year you vanished. Sounds like you’re projecting there. Point being, you’re basically MetsFan22 but the obnoxious/not fun to laugh at version. You seem to be the sporadic one harassing random people and spewing nonsense and vitriol about one team you weirdly obsess over, and one 12 year old kid who just found his favorite team. But this isn’t a wiener measuring contest or about who’s been where longer. You’re not funny. And your creepy obsession goes beyond weird. The other three members of the Marlins fan base should be embarrassed of you as we are of MF22…. except he’s not a d-bag.
You guys are both dumb
Home page on all devices?! Read every article? Wow, get a life.
@sfes
Again, I have never disappeared. The only reason you didn’t see me was because you, like many of your Mets brethren (such as @whynot) bailed from this board and your team when they went through the predictable downward spiral. I was here all along. Every poster that was here during the disappearance of the Mets fans of your fairweather ilk saw me bashing the Marlins bullpen while we, led by Anthony Bass (Mets MVP), blew late-inning lead after lead after lead. Again, you didn’t see those because you weren’t here. Don’t pull the false narrative now that you’re being called out for it like I did @CanoSucks and continue to do for the still absent @whynot.
As for @MetsFan22, he’s not a d-bag to your ilk. To others, while he’s a laughable dimwit, he’s still considered a d-bag by many other posters, especially us that are fans of the division rivals. And despite that, a lot of us have given him his due respect for not bailing on the Mets like you, @CanoSucks, @whynot, and many other Mets fans of your fairweathwer ilk this year.
lol dave kingman played 16 years and never had a season where his WAR was higher than Alonso’s 4.3 this year, but nice try pal
Yeah, because one season means everything. And it means a great deal when one of the guys wasn’t playing the game to appease analytics because while the other played within the era filled with them.
just because WAR wasn’t used as a stat in the 70s doesn’t mean it’s not a useful way to judge players, in fact it actually makes it easier to compare players from different eras when different styles of play were prevalent.
But if you want baseball card stats, Kingman is still 20 points behind Pete’s batting average with worse walk and strikeout rates.
@dannibalcorpse
The thing you seem to not be getting is that guys play to the stats of their era. That’s the point I’m making about the different eras. It’s easy to bash guys in a past era who were not playing to the analytics stats that are used today. However, you can’t hold a guy to the stats of the latest era when he was playing to a past era. The same will be the case when future stats dimwits try to bash Pete Alonso for a future stat that isn’t used now. It wouldn’t be fair to hold Alonso accountable for being weak in future stats than it is to hold Kingman accountable for current ones when they weren’t used back in his time.
However, when you consider seeing the guys play, Alonso is very similar to being the modern day Dave Kingman or Ron Kittle type. Those guys can mash, but they can chase out of the strikezone too when the game was on the line. The one thing Alonso has going for him is that he’s still young enough to make the adjustments needed to not repeat those guys’ histories. Stay tuned!
Your entire mish mash of words claiming I vanish is quite the projection
It only took you two days to respond to this. Yes, my claiming that you vanish is clearly “mish mash of words.”
Glad we finally agree
No credible Mgr or GM is coming to the Mets becuase the owner has his hands on everything.
You speak as though you have first hand knowledge of the situation. And you spelled “because” incorrectly.
I did not know grammar counted on a site with most people who don’t know how to read.
It weren’t yer grammar lad, it be yer spelling.
He managed to make it his grammar with the second comment.
Pretty sure money can convince a lot of people to join the Mets. Not everyone as evidenced by Theo rebuffing them, but James Dolan managed to hire all manner of credible people over the years despite being 10000x more dysfunctional than Cohen.
“Wow, this is surprising news. I can’t believe all of those coaches were let go.”
— absolutely nobody
Also need to get rid of Metsfan22. He makes the team look worse, if that’s even possible.
What ever do you mean? He was right about that 103-win prediction and the Mets being as good as the Padres this year.
Well, the Padres won 2 more games than the Mets this year.
And I think we all misunderstood @MetsFan22’s 103 win prediction. I think he meant combined total for 2020 and 2021. 26 wins in 2020 and 77 wins in 2021. That 103, so I have to say that he nailed it.
Now if we’re talking about his other predictions and guarantees, well, those speak for themselves. And how could have anyone guessed that when @MetsFan22 took the stance that deGrom didn’t have to do anything else in his career to make the Hall, that deGrom would’ve gotten injured in the very next start? It isn’t like it was the kiss of death when @MetsFan22 took that stance…even though myself and a couple of others joked that it was right when he made his statements.
Carlos Beltran–tanned, rested, and ready!
And he’ll bring his own garbage can
If I was a team in need of a change, Id be offering everyone within the Rays organization a job. That’s how you use traditional baseball knowledge and analytics to run a franchise
Mike Piazza for hitting coach.
What about Jason Giambi?
Bob in New Rochelle you’re on the FAN
No pepper games & no trash talking, please.
Brad Ausmus finally gets his chance.
LolMets,
They can’t even fire anybody. They tell them they are free to look for new positions or they are reassigned. Quattlebaum and Howard were the World’s Worst Hitting Coaches and the Mets underperformed offensively. Hello they need to be Fired!
hey speaking of Mets coaches…
Dave Jauss the son of the late famed Chicago Tribune sportswriter Bill Jauss
Cars,
I don’t remember Jauss. Mike Royko was the King of Chicago journalists and sports..
I liked Ricky Bones, too bad he has to leave, but on the other hand better for the new manager to start with a clean slate.
Buck Martinez will be named manager right after WS. It’s been reported .
I think you meant Buck Dharma.
The Mets will achieve dominance. And submission.
No dummy Buck Martinez
not HR Derby legend Dave Jauss
That is about all they can get as Mgr. Martinez,Ausmus and any other desperate baseball guy who needs a job.YOU NEED A NEW OWNER TO GET ANYONE THAT HAS A CLUE..This entire fan base will hate whoever is GM or Mgr because they will have no track record.
I did not know grammar counted on a site with most people who don’t know how to read.
Why would Hefner be assigned to a new role? He was the MVP of the team this season!
I could see this team being a juggernaut next year. The league needed us to have the worst injuries and to have several players to have their worst season….to not not make the playoffs. If that happens to a team like the Phillies cards or Braves.. they might be 20 under. Especially the Phillies.
Oh and let’s not talk about all the scheduling mess and double headers they had to deal with… they probably ran out of gas. And the players who returned to injury where not 100 back. Some examples are carrasco and lugo. Also Walker and megill ran into a innings wall. Basically everything went wrong and they still won 77 games… not many teams could do that.
The double-headers were not a disadvantage because the games were shortened to seven innings and you get to call up an extra player for doubleheaders.
Agree. They definitely over-performed given all the injuries and headers. And lets not forget all the bad weather in NY. They played in rain, like, 6 times? Definitely a bruised. battered bunch of killers. Truly exceeded expectations
Marlins made the playoffs with a bunch of lost players and double headers in 2020.
I think the double headers were an advantage. Fewer innings = fewer pitchers needed.
You’re a mindless troll. The Braves didn’t have Soroka, Acuna or Ozuna and d’Arnaud, Ynoa and Anderson all missed significant time. Pache also proved that he still isn’t ready offensively. Yet the Braves managed to win 88 games while playing in the same division the 77-win Mets played in. The Braves fixed their entire outfield at the trade deadline with a much smaller payroll than the Mets have.
What continues to hurt your already flawed argument is that the Mets have missed the postseason five years in a row and have only three postseason appearances in the last 20 years (one being a Wild Card Game loss). You can’t blame it on injuries every single year. Every team has injuries and yet most of them find a way to at least make the playoffs occasionally. The Mets do not.
What? I knew they would be bad in 18 and didn’t pick them to win division in 19 but they still won a respectable 86… 2020 was too short..
@MetsFan22, just like the Mets were gonna be better than the Dodgers this year, right? I even remember your comments in late July “I’m not worried about the Dodgers”, which was right before they lost 6 of 7 to them in less than 2 weeks.
You’re deluded if you believe this team will be a “juggernaut” next year with the current core. All things being equal, they’re an 80-82 win team as constructed and assuming better health. Will there be changes between now April 2022? Sure. Will they be the right changes? Doubtful, but you never know.
The Mets have named Jugger Nautalbaum the new manager, Homer Derbyshire the new batting coach, Strikem Outhrowemout the new pitching coach, and Way Vemin the new third base coach. Details to come.
don’t forget new strength and conditioning coach jerroid injecterberg
and their new closer, Itz Outtahere!
And dont forget the new mental skills coach, Stress EmOut.
This won’t change anything. How many times do I have to suggest a move to Rochester? They are a massive failure in Queens.
This is definitely the right move. Many teams have proven that they can win with less talent. Player development and good coaching is way better than a high priced player at every position.
The Mets are in rebuild mode, just not the type we are accustomed to.
Whatever happened to former Mets Catchers Charlie O’Brien and Todd Pratt? Once upon a time during they’re playing days you would always hear about them being “future Managers”
Side note for the Mets:
Former Mets Manager Mickey Callaway has taken a job as a Pitching Coach in the Mexican League. Advice for Mr. Callaway as he heads south of the border; they don’t actually love it when you call them “Senorita” and no one wants to see your “Chorizo”…
I liked Bones and Tarasco but I can understand them letting them both go.
Incidentally, I went to a Mets/Pirates game a few months ago (in Pittsburgh) and sat a few rows off the field by first base and Tarasco was awesome. Chatting and joking with the fans all game and took a few pictures and signed a few autographs after the game. The Pirates first base coach Tarrik Brock was hilarious, too, and was rocking some awesome shoes. Meaningless diversion here, but shout out to both of them for being really cool.
Tarasco was the Orioles outfielder when Derek Jeter hit the “home run”.
I saw Jeter watch the video and say “jump” under his breathe. If Tarasco had jumped and been interfered with, history would be quite different. Jeter knows he was lucky.
how the heck do you go from director of player development to assistant hitting coach and back again? this organization makes no sense
Mets are a mess, 2 GM’s, manager, and now every coach. Remember, they fired their hitting coach 2 weeks into the season and guys still didn’t produce. Didn’t like the Lindor signing, good player but not a 300 mil player.
This is the kind of wholesale change I want to see the Yankees make. I don’t actually think Boone is as terrible as most think, but change is needed if for no other reason than optics at the manager position. The players notice this kind of thing.
But the biggest change Yankees need to make is an overhaul of their analytics department, who clearly make every decision Aaron Boone makes.
Boone has been in lameduck status all season long. Cashman has never fired a manager mid-season. I feel a change is needed to address all the baserunning and defensive miscues among other issues with the team. I think all signs point to a managerial change as Cashman explores his options.
Cashman is already negotiating wLuis Rojas. Luis is the next Torre.Unlucky Met manager gets lucky in the Bronx.
DiSarcina spoke with Preller today. Gary and AJ go way back, so look for Gary in Brown and Yellow in 22
I’m ok with Hefner staying. I thought he really had the staff firing on all cylinders for most of the season and nearly every pitcher improved.
I was hoping ALL these coaches were replaced. The new manager should have an opportunity to put his own staff together. I did think Jauss would be retained to provide the new manager insight into the players.
None of these matter though if the new manager has no real managing experience.
…and next to go should be the entire training staff responsible for players’ daily preparation.
They have to totally rebuild the scouting and player development departments along with the analytics department before they even discuss management, coaches or players.
METS RELOCATION POLL:
A) Rochester Rabbits
B) Wichita Warlocks
C) London Werewolves
D) Omaha Dragons
E) Hartford Seals
Wouldn’t the Mets technically be American Werewolves in London?…
The Flushing Meadows Season Flushers
Hefner I would like to see be kept for another year, get Buck Showalter or Mike sosha or he’ll even Ron Washington to lead the team.
Scioscia he is a has been same with Showalter.Washington would fit in with the other dregs in the front office with his Cocaine use.Hire any of them all SUCK
Cohen should call Theo Epstien and just ask what it’s going to take to get him to fix this mess.
There is not enough money in the world to convince a man to destroy his legacy, reputation and career.
Jim Fregosi Mgr
Wayne Garrett-Bench Coach
Ed Kranepool-1b
Rusty Staub -3B
Nolan Ryan =Pitching Coach
Jerry Grote-Bullpen
Don Clendenon=Hitting Coach
GM-Lennny Dykstra