The Mariners’ desire to add a bat has been no secret, with the team linked thus far in the offseason to the likes of Kris Bryant, Seiya Suzuki, Trevor Story and the since-signed Javier Báez (Tigers) and Marcus Semien (Rangers). Though Seattle has already acquired left-handed-hitting infielder/outfielder Adam Frazier in a deal with the Padres, president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto figures to come out of the lockout intent on further deepening his lineup.
MLB Network’s Jon Heyman indicated recently on his Big Time Baseball podcast that Seattle indeed made an offer to Story prior to the lockout — presumably with the idea that Story would move off of shortstop in deference to incumbent J.P. Crawford. Dipoto plainly stated earlier in the winter that the organization’s plan was to keep Crawford at that position, and reports since that time suggested the team’s interest in Story would likely be predicated on a move to second base.
In his latest mailbag column Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times expands on some of the Mariners’ free-agent targets, reporting that the team never had a one-on-one meeting with Semien — seemingly due to a lack of interest on Semien’s end. Regarding the potential of an infielder changing positions to come to Seattle, he further notes that Crawford himself has never expressed that he’s unwilling to change positions, but the Mariners aren’t keen on moving a player they believe to be a high-end defender at a time when he’s making strides offensively.
Regarding Story, a move to the keystone might be preferable even independent of Crawford’s presence at shortstop. Divish hears from some scouts who suggest Story’s arm might play better at second base than it does at shortstop long-term. The former Rockie is coming off a season in which he ranked fourth among shortstops with 11 throwing errors, his fourth straight season ranking among the top ten at the position in that category.
Story’s strong durability and range paradoxically contribute to those error marks — a player can only commit a throwing error on balls he’s able to field in the first place — but inconsistency with his arm likely played into mixed reviews from public defensive metrics. While Defensive Runs Saved has continually pegged Story as a plus gloveman over the years, Statcast’s Outs Above Average tabbed him at six plays below par at shortstop in 2021.
While Story has never played an inning outside of shortstop as a big leaguer, it’s generally expected he’d acclimate well to second base if needed. That’s a less strenuous position on the defensive spectrum, and one need look no further than the aforementioned Semien (who won a Gold Glove at second base with the Blue Jays this past season) as an example of a player successfully bouncing from the left side of the diamond to the right. If the M’s were to land Story, his pairing with Crawford would make for one of the stronger all-around middle infields in the game.
After acquiring Frazier, the Mariners arguably don’t need another infielder. Yet adding a player like Story or Bryant would raise the team’s overall offensive ability while freeing up Frazier and/or Abraham Toro to assume a multi-positional role. That’d give manager Scott Servais far more with which to work than he had in 2021, when Seattle hitters combined for an underwhelming .226/.303/.386 slash line (pitchers excluded). Even after accounting for the club’s pitcher-friendly home ballpark, that offensive output ranked just 21st among the league’s 30 teams by measure of wRC+.
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Everybody be goin’ a sign everybody. Keep it up.
Believe it when I see it. We are linked to huge targets every year then nothing. Hoping for Bryant and story. That’d be rad!
No we aren’t. We’re only linked to players by journalists who say, “Player X hits well. Mariners suck at hitting. Therefore Player X is linked to the Mariners.” The Mariners meeting with and making offers on high end players isn’t an every year thing.
His arm isn’t as great as it was. Him playing 3rd wouldn’t be as good as playing him at 2nd and we have Frazier at 2nd and OF.
Suzuki and Story would make more sense !
There are some flaws here. 1) Kyle Lewis isn’t expected back at the beginning of the season. With that said, if he were back and healthy enough to play OF, he would play center and JK in LF. 2) If Dylan Moore is the starting 2B then something went wrong in the off-season. 3) Where is Adam Frazier in this scenario? 4) You don’t have your best hitter bat 7th.
@t04 you have everyone out of position. Kelenic is not a CF, he showed that last year. He needs to be in LF. Lewis is not playing in the OF, at least the first half. If Lewis is ready to play opening day its at DH. Toro played 2b for the first time last year and can play it but is better at 3B and they are working him in LF. You left Frazier off which I would assume he’s getting the most work at 2B. Why would you bat their best hitter from last year at 7?
So to4, it “makes sense” to leave Adam Frazier on the bench???
You’re missing Frazier, who will likely play at second at LF.
I don’t think Kelenic is suited for centerfield long term, I think we need a legit center fielder, because I don’t Lewis even starts the season, (I bet he misses time) much less plays centerfield. I’m not so sure he’ll ever play there again.
Unless J Rod can handle center, that is the spot on the field where I see our biggest need by far.
Julio’s arm belongs in right field
You’re putting Kelenic in the 3 hole? Lol Thankfully you don’t write the lineup card
Story has said it’s a priority for him to remain at short. If he has a comparable offer from a team that isn’t going to move him, Mariners would have no shot.
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Not saying you’re wrong, but I haven’t seen/can’t find anything to suggest that.
Yes, love all these narratives, explanations, and hyperbole about moving players to positions they’ve never played…the Jays got lucky with Simien now we hear it over and over again with other players.
If Story gets an anywhere near money offer from another team to stay at SS, the Mariners might as well go to plan B
SS have been moving to 2nd long before Semien. Most baseball players have been moved off SS at some point.
ARod was a 27 year old MVP SS, and probably the best player in the game when he agreed to move to 3rd base. Players move all the time. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not, but they move all the time.
Arod moving off of shortstop to accommodate Jeter probably isn’t the best example because it had nothing to do with positional versatility and defense. It was about getting both bats in the lineup with the least amount of ego bruising. They were both poor in the field (except maybe early in Arods transition)
Shortstop is one of the more athletic positions and that athleticism translates. The number of minor league shortstops that are projected off the position illustrates that.
It’s a perfect example. The entire point was to show that a better player, the same age, was willing to switch positions.
A better player moved to a new position to accommodate an inferior player. Story isn’t moving to keep an inferior player at shortstop. He’d be moving to keep a better defensive shortstop in position. That’s usually not the case. It’s very different than signing the player in free agency to a completely new position.
Read what you said and give this some more thought.
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What a casual fan. Have you seen Crawford play SS? Story has had shoulder issues for some time, so switching positions is a no-brainer. The reason you bring him in is to keep his bat in the lineup.
Then I hope he gets an offer from someone else as I think he’s a declining player with a big home/road split
You should look at his splits playing in AL West stadiums.
That’s probably why he didn’t take their offer. It’s still early in the offseason. He’ll get a better deal than whatever Seattle offered, most likely.
I think Bryant is the likely of the two
What’s wrong with the team just the way it stands now?
Sure, I’d like to see them pick up another good bat, but I think the infield and outfield are good enough right now to get them into the playoffs. Assuming there even is a season in 2022.
Some of those weak bats from last year are going to show improvement.
I disagree. Got some young talent but still a negative differential team that needs a lot of work.
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Spot on pwndroia
I think “negative differential team” is mostly gibberish, along with a lot of other “modern” thinking.
See ball, hit ball.
Catch ball, throw ball.
It worked for a lot of Hall of Fame players.
Yogi Berra said if he could hit it, it was in the strike zone.
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Negative differential team means they scored less than they gave up. It’s a pretty obvious sign of a below average team. No modernity necessary. If you score less than they score against you, you aren’t that good.
Also the fact that the Astros and A’s say hi, alongside an Angels team that could potentially be better. So much competition in that division that the Mariners need a lot of luck to go as far as they did last year.
Yes, I know what it means.
I admit it sounds good.
But one of my favorite teams, the ’65 Dodgers, were probably a negative differential team and it didn’t stop them.
That year was some of the best baseball I ever saw played.
The game is too big to be rendered down into the latest formulas at any time.
That will still be true when you guys are as old as I am now.
Nice try but the 65 Dodgers were not a negative run differential team. They gave up 521 runs, scored 608 runs. By that margin they would be 92 and 70. Baseball reference is my new best friend.
I don’t think there has been any negative run differential team that has gone far or won it all. The 2006 Cardinals had a pretty bad record but even they didn’t have a negative run differential if I recall correctly.
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The game is too big to be rendered down into what you feel at any time.
@ Fred Park;
This is an age-old argument in all team sports – professional and college.
It means nothing.
Teams can run up a score against crummy opponents and pad those figures – which is easy as their worst pitchers stay in the game and “take one for the team” to keep their quality bullpen guys available for the next few games. Good teams that are ahead will pull their best players to give them some rest instead of having to sit them down against quality opponents in meaningful games.
The problem with taking the macro view on statistics is that there’s an assumption that every team and every player is going all out every inning of every game. That’s not reality.
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That would be true if teams played 16 games like in the NFL, but over ~1460 innings a year, those micro moments of poor effort tend to balance out.
My team was good before modern baseball practices, so I assume they must have been the antithesis of modern baseball.
Maybe they were good because they exhibited proficiency in an area that was previously given little value?
If baseball is too big to be reduced to formulas, wait until you see what they did to air travel.
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Sure they do…….
Look, MLB teams make transactions 4-5 days a week during the season, often more than one a day. Teams now use over 30 pitchers during a season, and I’d have to look up how many position players they use. Players are moving from one team to another – the trading deadline is all about some teams giving up productive players to contending teams and getting back (usually) younger, less experienced players.
For years teams have been doing what Atlanta did this year – bolstered their lineup for the stretch run. The idea (as in horse racing or marathon running) is to stay with the pack until hitting the far turn and ratchet it up in the stretch run. Some teams are out of it come the stretch run and give playing time to secondary guys, while others are going fill tilt.
I see no value at all in a meaningless statistic like run differential (or point differential in other team sports). It’s something people on cable TV and in chatrooms bring up because it sounds good. In reality it means nothing.
Hey, Samuel, you just did an excellent job of putting everything into proper perspective.
They have yet to replace Kyle Seagers’ 35 HRs and 100 RBI. Adam Frazier doesn’t do that.
How can a runs allowed vs runs scored be meaningless? It maybe be very general, but still points you in the right direction. If you are giving up too many runs or not scoring enough, it gives you a starting point when it comes to identifying problems. It’s like basic accounting of debits and credits.
Also, you are arguing that teams fill holes in order to make the playoffs. Which doesn’t discredit the stat at all. Like that stat didn’t play into their decision? We need more runs, let’s try this. Our defense is dump, let’s try this alignment.
I can only find 1 World Series winner to have a negative run differential in the regular season, that being the 1987 Twins. Outscored by 20 runs. However, it’s the only instance I found.
In small sample sizes, yes run differential probably doesn’t really matter. But MLB teams play 162 games a season. It’s one of the longest regular seasons in professional sports. Those games where they blow out a bad opponent or get blown out are all evend out in so many games.
@mlb1225, What a great team that was, too.
I saw them play the Portland Beavers in an exhibition game. Wow.
Kent Hrbek, Baylor, Kirby Puckett, Frank Viola; the list goes on.
Just a lot of team chemistry or something.
That was before the season began, and they kept me glued to the TV right up through the World Series.
Well, good team chemistry is what the Mariners had last season and will again in 2022. God willing we have a season.
You don’t have to believe in negative run differential but one thing I know for a fact is that you have to score more than the other team to win. Giving up more than you score makes that pretty difficult.
I think I remember those 1987 Twins as a great home team in the Metrodome. Fate gave them home field advantage each and every playoff series. That might be correct- or not.
short-term run differential EXTREME was 1960 World Series between Pirates-Yankees.
The fact is it’s not even by a small amount. Mariners were projected to win around 78 games. That’s a huge divide with a lot of luck involved.
That doesn’t add up, How do you account for them winning 90 games? The point you make isn’t so persuasive.
The stats are literally on any baseball website. It doesn’t sound like it adds up but Mariners won more games by outscoring their weaker opponents and losing by huge margins elsewhere. That’s why there’s a 12 game difference from what it should be. A’s were actually a better team and had +54 runs while Mariners had -51 runs and still came in second place for the division.
We need a bat. I vote Suzuki
The last time the Mariners signed a top international outfielder out of Japan named Suzuki, it worked out pretty well.
No way they should stand pat. They need at least two more bats and preferably another starter. Currently need two out of 2B/3B/LF and then can use Toro as super utility
Fred- I love your optimism! If I may answer your question of ‘what’s wrong with the current team?’ IMO there are 2 main issues with the team ‘as-is.’
1) Middle of the lineup Clutch hitting and production in 2021. Someone else mentioned this already- there isn’t one player on the 40 man roster that can give us Kyle Seager’s 2021 production. Nor his insanely clutch hitting (for him!) from last yr. His defense and his team leadership. Abraham Toro may profile eventually as a similar type of high K/out all or nothing type switch hitter who could give you 25HR and 80-90 RBI to go with avg defense limited range w a strong arm but Toro is still a prospect. A huge question mark. Imo we need an established player to preferably play 3B or share INF/OF roles while being an impact bat that at least matches Kyles power from last yr.
2) BP success- Fred, you’ve watched a couple of MLB games! You know theres a level of singularity to every new MLB season. Its really hard for teams and players to recreate their success year in year out. As good as ‘we’ were at winning close games in 2021 The M’s need to improve their offense to plan for some slight BP/ Pitching regression. I don’t think its a good strategy to expect the team to Win so many games with one of the lowest scoring offenses in MLB. That long term game plan puts too much stress on our pitchers.
I personally think the team is not finished improving. I think you do too.
Its finally time to go out and sign a T Story or a K Bryant. Possibly trade for a Matt Chapman and or Frankie Montas or a Luis Castillo. Thats been the plan since 2018
After watching Matt Chapman the last couple seasons, no thanks. He’ll be way overpriced, especially considering he is in our division. He’s a decent bounce back candidate but I don’t think it’s worth what it will cost, at all. Luis Castillo would be awesome though
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Nah, that lineup needs alotta work. You’re not counting the possibility of some regressing either. You’ll be lucky if one improves.
Bryant make sense since he can play 1,3(kinda), and a corner of spot or dh. So a guy like him doesn’t really mess anything up from a roster building standpoint. That being said, I bet Story could play a passable CF if he got the reps so I’m not sure I care which one we get, just so we get one.
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“You will get neither and you’ll like it!” – Mariners FO probably
So take a Gold Glove SS and put him in CF and hope he gives you “passable” defense?
Bryant plays lousy defense at 3rd. He’s either DH, LF or RF. Yes he *can* play 1st and he’s done it 32 times. Ty’s been a GREAT 1st baseman
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They’ve already traded for Adam Frazier. They’re not paying a fortune for Story or Bryant. That they’ve been ‘linked’ in twitter rumors to Bryant or Story is the lowest reporting threshold there is. I was once ‘linked’ to Lady Gaga. It’s not happening.
The Frazier trade has absolutely nothing to do with their pursuit of either of those players.
I bet you’re wrong. Frazier changes nothing
The player who probably makes the most sense for Seattle’s infield (that’s available) is Matt Chapman. With two years of control, he’d bridge the gap between 2022 and Noelvi Marte’s debut.
Story makes sense as well, as he could potentially take third in 2022, then slide over to second base when Frazier leaves, or when Marte debuts.
Bryant, however, doesn’t have the infield flexibility that Seattle could use, and his ability to play an OF corner isn’t really that useful, especially if they extend Haniger. Then there’s Lewis, who isn’t likely returning to center, Kelenic, Rodriguez, and a couple of other prospects who are getting close, such as DeLoach and Marlowe. I have a hard time believing Seattle’s going to shell out enormous dollars over what will likely be a 8 or 9-year deal without a clear defensive home after 2 or 3 years.
To be clear, I wouldn’t complain if they landed Bryant, I just don’t expect them to.
Don’t think Story is “sliding” anywhere other than SS unless the Mariners completely blow any other offer off the table!
You switch position fans make us laugh!
Because players never switch positions, right?
Cal Ripken, Alex Rodriguez, Jean Segura, Ketel Marte, and Marcus Semien, are some names that you might want to familiarize yourself with before you go spouting off any further.
All true but Marte ain’t staying in CF
Marte didn’t stay at SS, where he primarily played for Seattle. He signed an extension with Arizona knowing he wasn’t going to play SS.
Not a fan of Dipoto. Watched him closely in Anaheim. Saw him make dumb signings in Seattle as he “went for it”. Then cleaned house using the “Re-Imagine” buzzword which is a bureaucratic way of saying he’s churning the roster in hopes that some things will stick.
My idea of success in 2010-20’s MLB is to develop a young core and then use the endless transactions to augment them. The Mariners core is (as the bureaucrats say) “fluid” (or “a lot of moving parts”.)
Seattle sports fans have supported their baseball team as best they can through the longest playoff drought of any MLB team. (They supported their NBA team and lost it unfairly.) I’m hoping the coming expanded playoffs allow Mariners fans to see their team in the playoffs, and at least win one round. Seattle sports fans deserve it…..and it would be good for MLB.
He fixed the bad. Tried to go for it all early because of the long playoff drought. Didn’t work out—he pivoted and now has a stacked farm system with building blocks.
You don’t see a core because the core is on its way. J-Rod, Kelenic, Kirby, Hancock, Gilbert, Marte is the makings of a core.
Some of those guys will inevitably bust but that’s a good deal of talent.
Flexibility is good. Try to be more flexible in how you judge situations. DiPoto looks good.
Seems like you really don’t know what you’re talking about.
Dipoto arrived in Seattle with an aging core, limited payroll flexibility and the worst farm in baseball, yet he was told to make it work; get them to the postseason.
Who were the ‘dumb’ signings you saw? He signed almost no one and certainly didn’t splurge on any free agent. He used the one resource he had to acquire players (the bad farm he inherited). It didn’t work, but the shortcomings allowed him to convince ownership a much-needed rebuild was needed and here we are, doing exactly what you called your idea of success.
People really have to stop citing his experience with the Angels to suggest he’s been a bad GM. He was the last GM to get them to the postseason and he left to pursue an opportunity where he could make personnel decisions without ownership interference.
Seattle fans do deserve a successful team. I think the fact that most fans support Jerry despite the drought speaks volumes. They can see what’s being done. It’s not a team being built to sneak into the postseason season upon expanded playoffs.
Steve- Precisely, a farm that Bavasi and Jack Z gutted making some of the worst trades of this century.
Re: Dipoto in Anaheim, he left the Angels 6 yrs ago! Arte Moreno stuck him with a couple of terrible contracts. Worse yet Sciosca forbid Dipoto from using big data/ analytics to better his lineup and his pitching staff.
Imagine that in today’s game- having a coach who tells his pitchers they cant use data to look at opposing hitters hot-zones and hitting tendencies? Sciosca was the MLB equivalent of the “flat-earthers.”
Dipoto’s signing of Andy McKay has helped bring this Org. ‘out of the dark ages.’ They have transformed the M’s FO into one of the most forward thinking Org’s in baseball. Pitchers now come to Seattle because of it. Look no further than the current BP- the M’s Player development group has transformed multiple RPers. When discussing the analytics dept Sewald and Sadler were each quoted saying “its like having cheat codes to a better version of myself.”
Dipoto is not perfect, he can be overbearing, at times running a dictatorship but all GM’s are human, they each have some flaws. None of them “win” every trade. I’m grateful LAA ostracized Dipoto. Their loss our gain.
Dipoto miraculously got rid of Cano, he gets a pass for at least 5 years thanks to that deal.
Haha no kidding- the more time has passed since that trade the more I think there’s not another Mets GM who would do that trade
Good job Samuel. Any more nonsense and lies you want to spill out of your hole? All those bad signing you claim he made, we’re contracts that he inherited. And he inherited the worst farm system baseball and turned it into a top three in no time at all
They should go after Rizzo, not Story. Frazier and Crawford up the middle, Toro at 3B and plant Ty France at DH. Grab a veteran OF to keep the seat warm for Julio Rodriguez and the offense looks solid.
Agreed a 1B/DH bat is needed. Kyle Lewis should probably shift to LF and keep Kelenic in CF with Haniger in RF. Fraley and Trammell are decent backups but should not be counted on to start
They really don’t. France was arguably the best defensive first baseman in the league last year, and Jerry has already stated that he will begin the season as Seattle’s starting first baseman (Ryan Divish).
Lewis, if not on the IL, is likely going to split time between DH and RF (along with Haniger). What they really need, in addition to an infielder, is a center fielder. Suzuki has the athleticism to handle center, so that’s one possibility.
France was the best defensive first base guy in the AL, why put him at DH. Not to mention you need the DH spot for Lewis and Haniger
RIzzo had a 1.7 WAR last year, barely above replacement level. Why pay 15 mil/year when you could get that production from anywhere. If you sign contracts solely based on past performance you will sign old/bad players and continue to miss the playoffs.
He absolutely has an issue with his throwing arm dating back to 2020. It’s not because of his strong range. There is an elbow issue. Perhaps it simply needs more time to heal.
The Mariners should sign Kris Bryant 7 year deal.. extend Adam Frazier to a 5-7 year deal.. sign Jorge Soler &/or Joc Pederson who can play multiple positions & should be relatively cheap to sign as well.. They also must sign or trade for another front end starter like Carlos Rodon or Chris Bassett to go with Robby Ray as a 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation.. it’s time to go all in…
Wow, how about a 10 year deal for Santa too while your at it!
I’d go 20 years for Santa… that guy has been delivering forever.
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Plus Santa has great defense at 3rd. Gold Glove and .300+ hitter
But, would Rudolph change positions? I read on North Pole Rumors there is a star lead reindeer named “Babe” ready for the bigs.
Rodon or Sonny Gray, Soler, and Seager or Chapman. Am I the only one who sees Seager returning at a lower salary?
I see Seager returning as well. All the news around the option painted the picture that Seattle was done with Seager and he was done with them (I think some reports said he wasn’t kept in the loop as to the team’s plans). But, he had to have seen the writing on the wall and discussed it with his agent. I could see a 2/24 or 3/30.
Edit: just saw kyles age. More 2/24 with option.
It makes some baseball sense, but like Stevil said, that bridge has been burned. He’s not coming back. I say this as a huge Seager fan.
That bridge has been burned.
The Seager era in Seattle is over.
It does sound like the team could have handled it better. But if Kyle does not get any better offers, money sometimes soothes hard feelings.
Mets signed Escobar, so I see the Mariners, Phillies and maybe Blue Jays as the teams in the mix. I guess the Marlins could be a longshot.
MLBTR pegged him at 2 years/$24 million, that seems right, or maybe one year at $14 million.
I don’t think Seattle cares about the price, I think they want to go in a new direction.
Keep in mind that Seager has been one of the most vocal critics of the organization (and understandably so). Then there’s the sharp decline offensively. If he’s relying on pull-power to survive as we saw last season, he’s not going to get on base and pitchers are going to work the outter edge of the plate to take away the power threat.
He might be a decent fit for an AL East team, like Toronto. But it’s a pretty safe bet he isn’t returning to Seattle.
I’d like to see what Toro can do with 600 ab’s
Jerry stated that they would like to get him 400, which makes it sound like he’s not plan A for third base.
I think it depends on what happens with the free agents they’re targeting.
Well, not plan A doesn’t mean he isn’t plan D.
But I don’t think free agents are the only targets.
Kyle deserved at least a sit down he has stuck it out through all the bad years, I get it’s just business but bad imagine ur setting for ur fan base n incoming free agents
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I’m not a Mariners guy, but I’m rooting for them to get Bryant. He seems like a good fit for their needs.
But at what cost? Let’s compare using MLBTR predictions:
Bryant 6 yrs, $160 million (26.7 million per year)
or signing both of the following
Kyle Seager (12 million per year on a two year deal) AND
Jorge Soler or Nelson Cruz (12 million per year, one year for Cruz or three years for Soler)
Seager and Soler is $2.7 million per year cheaper in 2022 and does not require the six year commitment that Bryant will seek.
Nelson Cruz looked cooked with Tampa so I wouldn’t pay him close to that and Soler scares me as well. With that said I wouldn’t touch Kris Bryant for that money either. I think their OF is gonna be fine with the addition of Rodriguez at some point and if Kelenic can turn it around that would be huge. They need arms not bats.
6/26$ would be an incredibly expensive deal for Bryant, he is declining fast. They need to target shorter contracts with guys with some potential upside, Bryant is only downside.
If Seager and Chapman are not options, what about playing Toro at 3B and signing Soler and Nelson Cruz instead of Bryant?
OK, Mariners need one more SP, it gets pretty weak after Ray, Gonzales and Flexen. Gilbert & Dunn?
1 2B Frazier
2 SS Crawford
3 1B France
4 Corner OF Haniger
5 DH Nelson Cruz
6 Corner OF Jorge Soler
7 Toro (or Seager or Chapman)
8 Center OF Lewis/Fraley
9 C Murphy
Corner OF Rodriguez will come up mid-season
Corner OF Kelenic is not quite ready to be a starter
Trammell is probably trade bait
Cruz on a one-year deal is great because Rodriguez and/or Kelenic should be ready to start on Opening Day 2023. No guarantee that Haniger will be extended though it sure seems like they should try.
Why do people keep putting Lewis in CF on here? He’s a DH to start the season if he’s even healthy enough for that and should never be put back in CF again if they want him to stay healthy. M’s believe JRod will be their CF of future but should focus on getting someone this offseason. Kelenic will start the season starting in the OF.
I thought Jose Rodriguez is a CF?
Also, will Dylan Moore and Evan White break through?
White might have a chance IF he can learn to hit a breaking ball, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Moore is what he is, this level is as far as he goes.
Story and Bryant are both on the backswing of their careers, I hope the M’s avoid that disaster. I would rather see someone like Schwarber who can be the primary DH and backup corner OF if needed and avoid any 6 year deals with 30 year olds who have 2 years left of productivity. Julio barely got to AA last year, he isn’t coming up in 2022. Lewis is a question mark at this point, you can’t count on him to be healthy unfortunately(I hope he is). The M’s outperformed last year thanks to the bullpen which could easily regress in 22, they aren’t as close as anyone here thinks.
This absolutely makes no sense at all. I could see why Story is better off at second but the Mariners need a third baseman. Story’s arm isn’t good enough for third. I’m also worried about his splits away from Coors. I’m much more prefer a Bryant who can play third, 1st and even the outfield if need be plus of course DH. That’s four spots. Bryants splits were also better as well. He even played pretty well in a pitchers ball park in SF.
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Story is a 5 tool player.He has a cannon when healthy.One of the,if not the fastest man in baseball.I’m a huge Dodger and Angel fan and I’ve watched Story a lot.When he has protection in the lineup he’s an absolute stud.4-5 yrs ago at Dodger Stadiumi seen him throw balls from behind the batting cage halfway up the seats.I’ve seen a ton of live games in my life and I always go early.Story’s bat when he connects has that special sound you only hear from a handful of players.2b when he’s 35 and 3b whenever he gets bored.