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Trade Candidate: Tyler Glasnow

By Anthony Franco | January 24, 2022 at 7:59pm CDT

The Rays find themselves in a tricky position with regards to Tyler Glasnow. The 6’8″ right-hander is probably the team’s most talented pitcher. Last season, he looked on the way towards solidifying himself among the best in the sport. Through his first 14 starts and 88 innings, Glasnow posted a 2.66 ERA with a fantastic 36.2% strikeout rate and a solid 7.9% walk percentage.

Glasnow has always had the raw stuff to miss bats in droves, but as he entered his mid-20s, he’d seemingly found the control to match. He has the ability to be a top-of-the-rotation starter. Unfortunately, his health hasn’t yet allowed him reach that upside. Glasnow missed a good chunk of the 2019 season due to a forearm strain. He stayed healthy during the abbreviated 2020 campaign, but he didn’t make it through 2021 unscathed.

Last June, Glasnow suffered a partial tear of the UCL in his throwing arm. After unsuccessfully attempting to rehab the injury, the California native underwent Tommy John surgery two months later. That obviously brought his 2021 season to a close, and it’ll likely cost him all of 2022 as well. The timing of that procedure leaves the Tampa Bay front office with a decision to make regarding his long-term future in the organization.

Glasnow is arbitration eligible for the third of four times this offseason. He’s on track to hit free agency after the 2023 season. With next season likely a wash, Glasnow’s club is looking at one year (2023) of production before he can test the open market. He’s projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz for a $5.8MM salary this year, and he’d likely earn the same amount the following season.

So that’s around $12MM over two years for one season of Glasnow’s services. Given the caliber of pitcher he is, that could be a bargain if he returns to form in 2023. Yet as Ken Rosenthal and Dennis Lin of the Athletic wrote last summer, it’s not clear how heavy a workload a team could reasonably anticipate Glasnow to work that year even if his recovery goes as planned. While he shouldn’t have much issue being ready for the start of 2023 — barring unexpected setbacks in his rehab process — he might not be equipped to shoulder a 180-inning workload. Between injuries and the pandemic, Glasnow will have tossed just 241 2/3 MLB innings between 2019-22, including the postseason (assuming he misses all of next year).

As is typically the case with the Rays, there’s also their team spending limitations to consider. Tampa Bay entered last season with a player payroll a bit south of $67MM, in the estimation of Cot’s Baseball Contracts. Including arbitration projections, Jason Martinez of Roster Resource pegs their 2022 commitments in the $84MM range. That’s not much compared to the rest of the league, but it’d be a franchise-record sum for Tampa Bay. Is ownership willing to support that kind of expenditure entering the season? Even if so, would the front office prefer to reallocate Glasnow’s projected money as they attempt to make a run at their fifth consecutive 90-win showing?

The Rays aren’t going to move Glasnow solely to shed salary. Were that the case, they’d have simply non-tendered him before November’s deadline. But they seem likely to consider trade offers, particularly if they can get help for 2022 in return. Rosenthal and Lin reported Tampa Bay and the Cubs kicked around trade formulations involving Glasnow and Kris Bryant and/or Craig Kimbrel before last summer’s deadline. Those obviously didn’t come to fruition, but the Rays will probably look into similar possibilities after the lockout.

Any team with designs on contending in 2023 could be a plausible trade partner. A retooling organization like the Cubs or Nationals could take on a few million dollars during a non-competitive season with an eye towards a quick rebound after selling off pieces last summer. An immediate contender with more near-term financial flexibility than the Rays have could see this as a buy-low opportunity. Trades of players this talented between contenders are uncommon, but given the Rays’ financial situation and the timing of Glasnow’s surgery, a deal during the expected post-lockout transactions frenzy wouldn’t be surprising.

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  1. ajrodz1335

    3 years ago

    No, please. Shut up! I need the Rays to keep him, CYler Glasyoung is a Ray. Until a year before his FA starts. Let Rays fan be happy until the trade happens.

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    • jdgoat

      3 years ago

      I feel like he’s guaranteed to be traded. The Rays of all teams aren’t wasting that much money on a guy who is going to contribute nothing to their season.

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      • AHH-Rox

        3 years ago

        Like the story says, they already passed up the opportunity to non-tender him.

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        • DarkSide830

          3 years ago

          yeah, because why would they? someone will offer something.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 years ago

          Trading to a team like the Cubs makes sense but given his injury history and status, what team is giving up big prospects? Tampa will wait to the deadline and see if there’s big payroll team not in the race who have an expiring contract that would be useful for the Rays’ 22 run. Win-win.

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        • lucas0622

          3 years ago

          It’d likely be the Rays giving up the prospects for someone to take on Glasnow

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        • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

          3 years ago

          Why would the Rays have to give anything up? I disagree completely. Glas would cost a team about 8mil over 1.5 years if they got him at deadline. That’s a steal considering the contracts given today… He wouldn’t fetch a top 5 prospect but something in the 12-20 range is more than reasonable.

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        • Deleted_User

          3 years ago

          @ lucas0622 Why would they do that with a guy they can non-tender that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

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        • vtadave

          3 years ago

          May want to delete this.

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          Why on earth would the rays give up anything? There’s guys this year that will sign contracts who won’t pitch at all so teams will have access to them next year. Glasnow will be highly sought after by teams looking to be contenders in 23. Rangers, jays, cardinals among many others should be interested

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        • Mrsuntan

          3 years ago

          That has to be the most stupid comment of this thread, do you watch baseball?, do you understand the rays build with prospects, not trade them?…did you even read or understand the article?

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        • Mrsuntan

          3 years ago

          Maybe top 5 in a weak system

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        • fljay73

          3 years ago

          Alex Cobb was a similar SP where the Rays had to spend about $4mil for a year while he rehabbed to get him for his last year of team control. I would try to sign him to a 2 year deal with a option year based on his 2022 stats or a 3 year deal to lock in another year of team control.

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        • mp2891

          3 years ago

          You really have no understanding of baseball, do you?

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      • mp2891

        3 years ago

        The Rays were happy to pay Morton $15MM per year, and Glas is a better pitcher when healthy (and comes with draft pick compensation if the QO system is retained). The Rays aren’t wasting any money paying Glas $12MM for one year of service. It’s well below the FMV of a pitcher of his caliber, and the Rays know it. What’s more, the Rays are trying to win a World Series, and you can only do that if you have 1-3 front line Aces.

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    • BeansforJesus

      3 years ago

      CYler Glasyoung? That is probably the worst nickname I have ever heard.

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    • Robertowannabe

      3 years ago

      @ajrodz1335. Glasnow is not going to pitch for your Rays until that year before he goes FA. That is the premise of this article. Do they trade before he pitches again or keep him and pray he stays healthy and pitches like he did pre injury 2019 and the 14 games in 2021 and then trade him before the deadline in 2023. Those few months is all you are gonna see Glasnow before he will be gone.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        3 years ago

        Rays are probably the only team with the discipline that even in a competitive year would move a top arm at the deadline.

        Only problem is by the time the deadline comes if he’s having a good year he’s probably going to be quickly approaching an innings limit, reducing any value to a playoff team.

        So Rays will probably get something for him now and save the 6 mil next year

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        • 48-team MLB

          3 years ago

          The Rays are competitive but they still haven’t won a World Series. They need a trophy or two before people start to truly take their “way” seriously.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          3 years ago

          Their way is not possible for mid to big market teams. The tampa way, while supplement with excellent scouting and player development, is born out of necessity not strategy.

          The Yankees would never be able to trade a TOR starter mid season for prospects in a year they are on pace to make the playoffs. It’s just not possible, tampa can do it with our fan backlash ( insert lack of fan jokes here)

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        • georgebell 2

          3 years ago

          The difficulty of making the playoffs 3x in a row in the AL East with that budget can’t be overstated, regardless of short season or World Series trophy.

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        • stymeedone

          3 years ago

          @48 team
          With half the teams in the league having pilfered members of the Tampa Bay front office, the people that matter are already taking their way seriously.

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        • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

          3 years ago

          Every team wants to be the Rays. Every owner wants to spend nothing and compete. Increasing their profits… Their way is taken more than seriously…

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        • Flatsorter

          3 years ago

          That’s why the Yankees need to sign Brett Gardner. To be taken seriously.

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          The rays don’t need any trophies for people to take them seriously. The fans are a buffoons and their opinions don’t matter. Every time a team hires a new executive the rays are called and asked about their executives? Why because everyone in baseball who’s opinion matters, you know the people running teams, they know.

          Baseball playoffs are a crapshoot. All you need to do is get there and any team can win. And if you get your ridiculous wish of 48 teams the playoffs will be a bigger crapshoot.

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        • mp2891

          3 years ago

          LOL. What exactly do you think the Rays are, if not a playoff team. If teams want Glasnow in 2023, they’ll have to trade for him now. The Rays won’t be trading him next year after paying his salary this year and being in the 2023 playoff race.

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      • Dorothy_Mantooth

        3 years ago

        The way I look at it, Glasnow is worth well more than the $11.6M he’ll be paid through 2023. The Rays have other 2022 contracts they can move like Margot if they need to lower their payroll. They should keep Glasnow on the 60-Day IL for all of 2022 and pencil him in as their #1 or #2 starter for 2023. If 2023 happens to be a down year for the team, they could move him at the trade deadline or if they are competitive, they can keep him all season and offer him a QO at the end of the 2023 season in case they cannot afford to re-sign him as a free agent. It makes no sense to move him this year unless they get a really strong offer, which I doubt they will given his health issues.

        What they really should do is forgo arbitration this season and sign him to a (2) year, $12M contract. Pay him $2M-$3M for 2022 and $9M-$10M for 2023, guaranteed. They’d pay him an extra $400K in total (over the expected $11.6M) to accept the lower salary for 2022. That way, they keep this year’s lost salary manageable and then have a healthy ace signed for $9M-$10M in 2023. It would open up a host of options for them in 2023 as well. I believe the league would allow for this type of contract so long as the two year pact is fully guaranteed.

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        • dshires4

          3 years ago

          The flip side to keeping him through 2023 is after the season, he accepts the QO and then leaves after 2024 and the Rays receive no compensation at all. (Assuming the qualifying system isn’t changed in the CBA)

          This is why I think he’s dealt in 2022. Save the money, the potential long term possibility of losing him for nothing, and get prospects back now. It’s just how they operate and makes the most sense.

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        • brickhaus

          3 years ago

          Do you think the QO will still exist after the lockout? That seems like an easy give for the owners.

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  2. Deleted Userr

    3 years ago

    @Anthony I’d like to thank you for pointing out that if they wanted to move him to shed salary they’d have just non-tendered him. I see so many comments from people on here saying that Team X wants to move Player Y to shed salary after the team just tendered the player a contract/exercised his option.

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    • ElGaupo77

      3 years ago

      He has value. Garbage starting pitchers get 1/$6M. He’s getting 2/$12

      The other real problem is he’s taking up at 40 man spot this year and the Rays always so tight with the roster.. They’d rather not lose a prospect to keep him on the shelf all year.

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      • BSHH

        3 years ago

        The roster spot issue will be short-lived, since Glasnow will be moved to the 60-day IL immediately. I guess most other teams will have similar problems with their injured players.

        Gruß,
        BSHH

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      • rondon

        3 years ago

        Except the “garbage” guys aren’t rehabbing while they’re paid.

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  3. Tom the ray fan

    3 years ago

    Glasnow & brujan for Castillo

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    • tstats

      3 years ago

      That’s called an overpay

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    • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

      3 years ago

      no

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  4. BeansforJesus

    3 years ago

    Glasnow to the Rangers. They aren’t competing in 2022, and they could easily extend him if he bounces back in 2023.

    Rays and Rangers seem to be on good trading terms in recent years.

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  5. bhambrave

    3 years ago

    The Braves have several AAA pitchers who could be available. I have more faith in Tampa unlocking their potential than I do in the Braves.

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  6. Mikel Grady

    3 years ago

    Perfect arm for Cubs . Nice read

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    • nukeg

      3 years ago

      Yeah this has Cubs written all over it. Tells the fans the rebuild will not be long and they have the money to pull this off. Plus Cubs fans are smart enough to see what’s going on here.

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      • smooveb330

        3 years ago

        The problem is the rebuild WILL be long, at least if they do it right. They have almost no young MLB-ready talent to build around – guys like Frank Schwindel and Patrick Wisdom aren’t exactly franchise cornerstones. They’d only have Glasnow through 2023, and they’re highly unlikely to contend in that time.

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        • solaris602

          3 years ago

          Unless they sign Correa or Story which would have them contending in ‘23

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        • Mikel Grady

          3 years ago

          Alzolay and Marquez will be very good arms for cubs . Brennen Davis will be a good bat. Agree a lot of minors for cubs are 20 so they will come along 3-4 years from now. Cubs could flip the script sooner than later

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  7. galer18

    3 years ago

    An alternative 3rd option that I feel pretty confident the Rays will at least try to pursue would also be signing him to a guaranteed 2-year deal for 2023 and 2024 (so buying out 1 year of FA eligibility) at a slightly below market rate (so like, 2/20 or 2/24, something like that). That I think would honestly at least somewhat benefit both parties – the Rays get the chance to potentially have 2 healthy seasons of a TOR starter for below market value, and Glasnow guarantees himself the strong chance of at least 1 healthy walk year before free agency (since 2023 he might not be at full strength, might be rusty, could be still hurt or on an innings limit, etc. that could limit his earning capacity compared to having a full healthy season to work with).

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      3 years ago

      Glasnow would never sign that deal. Even if he’s slightly above average in 2023, teams will pay him $20M+ per year for a multi-year contract in 2024 so long as he’s healthy. Tampa’s best option is what I stated above. Forgo arbitration this year and sign him to a backloaded 2 year deal for 2022 & 2023. Pay him $2M in 2022 (for team payroll concerns) and $10M for 2023 when he’s back to form. They could trade Margot’s $5M contract this offseason as well if they need to get their 2022 payroll down.

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      • galer18

        3 years ago

        I wouldn’t be so sure. Glasnow has no decent year to speak of to point other teams to during a FA negotiation at the moment. Every season he’s been in the bigs he’s either been mediocre or good but missed significant time. If that trend continues (he is healthy for 2023 but isn’t completely sharp due to the injury -diminished stuff, command backing up a bit, etc – or he’s great again but misses more time.), then teams will be willing to pay out a fair amount, but not nearly the amount he would get if he had a full season of elite play to point to and say “this is what I’m offering your team”. Reupping with the Rays for 2024 and giving himself more time to build his FA resume could be the difference between being Carlos Rodon/Noah Syndergaard (good pitcher, but health problems means nobody is gonna pay up for a particularly large contract) and Robbie Ray (good pitcher with elite performance to point to and paid accordingly) in this year’s FA class. That’s a sizeable gap in earnings (at least probably $50 million – signing something like a 4/80 in 2023 vs. getting 12 mil from the Rays then 6/125 or some such in 2024) that he’d be risking giving up just to get to FA at the earliest opportunity. In this particular instance, it might be in his best interest to wait; just depends on just how much he wants to bet on his physical recovery.

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  8. RobM

    3 years ago

    Bundle Glasnow with Kevin Kiermaier and maybe Wander Franco for some prospects. Seems to be the Rays way. Save money, get prospects.

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    • galer18

      3 years ago

      Hahahahahahahahahaha. I do hope you’re not serious there.

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      • RobM

        3 years ago

        Not serious, but with the Rays it does give you pause!

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        • 48-team MLB

          3 years ago

          @RobM

          Where should the Rays relocate to…since it’s basically inevitable? Pick from any of these…

          Charlotte, Memphis, Nashville, Raleigh, Buffalo, Indianapolis, San Antonio, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Portland, Vancouver, Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          3 years ago

          I’ve always felt Vancouver would be a great place for an mlb team. Majority of the best CDN players come out of BC, they have a great culture of baseball there.

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        • galer18

          3 years ago

          I mean, even they’re not that THAT hard up that they’d give up one of the potential best players in the whole game to clear some salary *cough* Boston *cough*.

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        • nukeg

          3 years ago

          You forgot Tampa. The Rays actually play in St Petersburg Fl which is a long bridge ride away from Tampa. The Buccaneers play in Tampa and do well there. I don’t live there but have friends in the area and the solution is to play somewhere near Raymond James Stadium (where the Bucs play).

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        • coolhandneil

          3 years ago

          Agree. They need to relocate to Tampa. Lightning and Bucs sellout. The Rays would do so much better if they were actually in Tampa. No one wants to go to St. Pete.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          3 years ago

          @ 48-Team – Nashville makes the most sense if you ask me. They have an ownership group already setup there if the Tampa owner is willing to sell and there is already positive momentum towards building a stadium there. Nashville would also allow every division to stay intact since they could still play in the AL East. It would actually improve their travel schedule since they’d be closer to their division rivals. The only complicating factor is if the current Rays owner does not want to sell. I’m guessing the Nashville ownership group would be really upset as they’d be out of the running for an expansion team. I believe MLB has already pre-approved them (or at least have backed them) as potential new owners. The rest of the league owners would have the final say of course.

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    • User 4245925809

      3 years ago

      Rays are adding prospects to get rid of the kiermaier contract. look no further than what it cost Milwaukee to dump JBJ’s on boston. they might have gotten Renfroe also, but it cost the Brewers 2 decent kids to go with the JBJ dump.

      Kiermaier and JBj both may be GG type defenders, but neither are worth much with the bat now and Kiermaier never did walk much. Getting rid of the 14m to shed what’s left of his deal would be a bigger coup than moving the still useful in ’23 Glasnow.

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      • galer18

        3 years ago

        I disagree, Kiermaier may not be great with the bat, but he’s at least playable; JBJ was basically unplayable if it weren’t for his glove this last season. Big difference there in my opinion – JBJ you HAVE to add prospects to get rid of him, whereas I think Kiermaier you can get away with maybe only eating some of the contract if that and still come away with A return (maybe not a great one, but still something). Comparing apples to oranges there really.

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    • tstats

      3 years ago

      You mean for Soto and the entire nationals farm system?

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    • StPeteStingRays

      3 years ago

      Trolls of a feather flock together

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  9. mp9

    3 years ago

    Twins 4 Kepler & some prospects

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      3 years ago

      I assume the Twins would be getting prospects from Tampa in this deal, correct? Kepler is better than KK at this point in their careers and KK costs 2X of what Kepler does.

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  10. 48-team MLB

    3 years ago

    Another reason why they should relocate. The glass has clearly shattered with that relationship.

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  11. Old York

    3 years ago

    Trade him to the Yankees for a few aged A-ball players. Fair trade… 🙂

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      3 years ago

      I think the Mets will land him for JD Davis and Robinson Cano.

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      • phenomenalajs

        3 years ago

        The only way Canó would go to the Rays would be if the new CBA had a $100M floor.

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      • Dorothy_Mantooth

        3 years ago

        LOL. Only way that happens is if the Mets pay 100% of Cano’s $40M left on his deal. After signing Marte, the last thing the Mets need is CF. KK would merely be a 4th or 5th OF for the Mets and a very expensive one. Even Cohen knows better than to waste $14M on a backup OF.

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      • stevecohenMVP

        3 years ago

        Here goes the salty Marlins fan immediately talking about the Mets whos not even mentioned. I can’t wait to watch your team crumble yet again. You are a clown amongst men. Go make some children cry, TrashFanBase.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          3 years ago

          At least @stevecohenMVP understood my crack on the Mets.

          Sorry for destroying your fantasy. I’m sure you didn’t realize when you were thinking that JD Davis was a beast that others could mock that.

          Hey, perhaps you can trade Taijuan Walker and Brandon Nimmo for Mike Trout.

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  12. Dustyslambchops23

    3 years ago

    Phillies should take on KK and Glasnow, send a top pitching prospect not named Abel and take on the salary

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    • Rsox

      3 years ago

      The Phillies are un-Able to make that deal work

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  13. Rsox

    3 years ago

    The only way Glasnow isn’t traded is if the Rays work out a deal with him and buy out his last two trips to arbitration. I could see a low base salary this year with a more expensive salary next year. He may be open to it to stay and rehab with a training staff he knows over taking a chance with another organization

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      3 years ago

      That doesn’t make sense for either side.

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      • Rsox

        3 years ago

        Why doesn’t it. Odds are better than not that Glasnow doesn’t pitch this season and if he does it wouldn’t be til late in the season. This year would be sunk cost and he will get a raise in arbitration this year and next. Why wouldn’t the Rays want cost certainty?

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          3 years ago

          They have cost certainty, 2 years 12 million.

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      • Dorothy_Mantooth

        3 years ago

        @Dusty – This makes perfect sense for both sides so long as the MLBPA would approve such a deal. Tampa runs its team on a cash basis (they don’t care about how salary is allocated for CBT purposes). Right now, Glasnow appears to be locked in for $11.6M over the next two seasons. Agree to pay him a little more than that (say $12M) where they pay him $2M for 2022 & $10M for 2023. This allows Tampa to hold him for the entire 2022 season at a low cost and then pay him $10M for his ‘healthy’ 2023 season, which is well below market value. They could trade him in 2023 for some good prospects if they don’t want to pay him that salary as by then he’ll be throwing full strength so every team, including the Rays, can see where he stands. The Rays have some ‘large’ contracts coming off the books in 2023 (KK, Kluber, etc) so they can easily afford the $10M for Glasnow should they want to keep him. Paying him close to $6M to rehab all of 2022 is not at all attractive to Tampa but paying him $2M should make them much more comfortable. They can easily trade Margot and his $5M salary this year too…which would allow them to add a decent prospect or two, lower their projected $84M 2022 team payroll by about $8M (+$5M savings for Margot, +$4M for Glasnow and -$1M for a pre-Arb player for Margot) and keep Glasnow for the entire season. They’d have a line out the door should they choose to make Glasnow available for 2023 as well. It makes a ton of sense for both the team and for Glasnow too. Glasnow will get an extra ~$500K just to backload his deal. I’m sure he can survive 2022 on a measly $2M salary.

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        • BSHH

          3 years ago

          Extending Glasnow for $ 12m/2y actually makes little sense for the Rays. Since he probably won’t pitch this year, they have de facto the same cost certainty already, but still could non-tender Glasnow next off-season in case of some severe setback. I also doubt that the cost allocation of an amount of $ 3m between this and next year would be very valuable for the Rays.

          Gruß,
          BSHH

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  14. ❤️ MuteButton

    3 years ago

    Maybe the Rays need to move. They remind me of the old Expos. Couldn’t afford to keep their talent, even though everything else about the organization seemed to be good. It’s gotta be a bummer for the fans that do support the team

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    • theodore glass

      3 years ago

      A stadium in actual Tampa would solve that.

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      • LordD99

        3 years ago

        Unknown.

        There’s not strong evidence the Rays have a meaningful fanbase who will go out to a park. Their TV ratings are ok, but one survey indicated they were transplants simply watching the non-Rays team. It makes sense. The Rays haven’t done much to cultivate a fanbase over the years.

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  15. AlienBob

    3 years ago

    The Mariners offer:
    SP Emerson Hancock and RP Nick Margevious for
    CF Josh Lowe and SP Tyler Glasnow

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      3 years ago

      Alien Bob – That’s really expensive for Seattle. They’d basically be getting Glasnow for 1 guaranteed season post TJS and giving up 6 years control over a very talented young pitcher who has a ceiling of a #1 starter and a floor of a #3 starter or lights out bullpen arm.

      While Josh Lowe is a promising prospect himself, the Mariners are already loaded with highly ranked OF prospects. I don’t see this deal making sense for Seattle.

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      • galer18

        3 years ago

        Doesn’t makes sense for the Rays either. Hancock has a middling fastball, strikeout concerns, and health issues (repeated shoulder fatigue problems) that cut into his upside imo, and Margevicius adds pretty much nothing to the deal. Meanwhile Glasnow would/should have a pretty decent market for him for contending teams in 2023 (so no reason to take just any offer right now), and Lowe is a future starting OF for the Rays in the near future.

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      • AlienBob

        3 years ago

        All four players involve some risk. Hancock projects to at least a No 3 rotation piece but has had a few minor setbacks. Lowe, like Hancock is AAA guy who projects to be a solid CF. But no one knows if he can hit MLB pitching. Margevious is coming off an injury like Glasnow. No one knows how their recoveries will work out.

        Tampa gets two, controllable pitchers which they need and save payroll.
        Seattle gets a controllable CF to solve their OF problems. They can afford to lose on Seiya Suzuki saving his long-term contract.

        It’s a fair trade which is why no one likes it.

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    • hoof hearted

      3 years ago

      @alien
      Don’t need Lowe or Glasnow. Sea has better options in house. No way Depoto trades 6 years of control-hancock.
      Kiermeir at a cheaper salary would be a better trade. M’s don’t have a good CF option

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  16. csalko

    3 years ago

    Jeez this guy never pitches. He has almost reliever level inning totals. He must be injured literally every season. Seriously. Every season. That sounds like more of a headache than anything. He is cruising along at 70 innings and you think you can count on him and then he’s gone for the season. Also, a lot of pitchers can look good when they’re only going 70 innings. Taijuan Walker was one of the best pitchers in baseball through his first 70 innings

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  17. cars

    3 years ago

    With over $300MM to $350MM in bad contracts during Theo Epstein time with the Cubs. I just don’t see the Ricketts family being willing to spend any money on a player who can’t play, due to an injury for a year. Just collecting a check. Unless, money was coming off the Cubs books. Ricketts family are investors, money people, not a sports family.

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    • Mikel Grady

      3 years ago

      Cubs paid smyley not to pitch . I hope they aren’t once bitten twice shy . Corerra will decide that . Im sure the Ricketts are marking the days off calendar for heyward .

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  18. tbfern

    3 years ago

    I really hope we keep Glasnow & the FO figures out a way to buy out his arb years or a short extension to hopefully keep him around for the next couple competitive years. That being said, more times than not Neander & Co. seemingly are able to strike very good deals if they do decide to trade him so I’m only mildly concerned about the situation. Truthfully I just enjoy watching the Rays pull fast ones on other Front Offices lol

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  19. smuzqwpdmx

    3 years ago

    Glasnow has never managed more than 88 innings in a major league season, and topped out at 124 innings in class A+ in 2014. Even if he weren’t coming off major surgery which can cause decline and further injuries, there would be no reason to expect him to break the 100 inning mark.

    So the trade proposition is $12M for maybe 100 innings of Glasnow if you’re lucky, which might be of good quality if he doesn’t have lingering surgery effects. Frankly, that’s not worth giving up any prospects at all for. It’s just barely worth not non-tendering him.

    Now, if you want to believe that health isn’t a skill and he’s just had some really bad luck each of his past 10 years of pro ball… well, then he’s a bargain.

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    • vtadave

      3 years ago

      2016: 140 innings
      2017: 155.1 innings
      2018: 111.2 innings

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  20. lumber and lighting

    3 years ago

    Glasgow has 1 pitch.TJ is slower to develop curve and split finger.Fastballs history is not a problem with post surgery.So I expect him back 100%.Looks like a Dodger acquisition to me.I’ve seen several of Glasgow’s bullpens,his fastball doesn’t have a lot of movement and I believe the sticky icky might be a factor.I’ve been saying you can’t be a 1 pitch pitcher in the bigs.Glassnow has proven me wrong and he’s been very effective,so I believe the chance is worth the 2 yrs pay.

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    • rocky7

      3 years ago

      Good point, although I might say Glasnow probably has 2 pitches……coming back, and actually improving from TJ isn’t a guarantee although his fastball prior to surgery was extremely effective……given his penchant for pitching a lack of innings due to injury….it just might make sense for any ball club willing to work through his comeback after surgery to trade with the Rays and make Glasnow a late inning reliever/stopper during those innings that prove to determine game outcomes……not suggesting a closer role unless he shows he can comeback and pitch 2-3 days in a row but taking over that role of “stopper” when the game outcome is really on the line might just fit him well looking forward.

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  21. ccahoe02

    3 years ago

    The Rays paid Archer 6.5 not to do anything last year.

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  22. bravesfan

    3 years ago

    Lord if he’s a trade candidate, send him to the Braves please. If I was in charged, Id pay a king ransom for him and not even hesitate. Pache, waters, Harris. Not enough? Here, take your pick lol

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  23. yankeesfan69

    3 years ago

    That weirdo hoodieglasnow on Twitter isn’t going to like this post.

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  24. jvent

    3 years ago

    Mets trade Davis,Szapucki and a lower prospect for Glasnow, also trade Smith,McNeil and a lower prospect to the A’s for Manaea. The Mets lose Carrasco and Walker after 2022.
    2022 rotation: deGROM,Scherzer,Carrasco,Manaea and Walker
    2023 rotation: deGROM,Scherzer,Glasnow,Manaea and either Allan or Ginn.

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    • Sid Bream Speed Demon

      3 years ago

      No one wants Smith, and packaging him and McNeil to the A’s doesn’t help them at all. LolMets.

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  25. theloop

    3 years ago

    Detroit is the right fit I bet. All kinds of pre-arb, arb 1, and arb 2 guys on that roster to entice the Rays for help in ‘22. Tigers window opens at the earliest in ‘23, likely ‘24 when Glasnow is back to full strength.

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    • BSHH

      3 years ago

      If Glasnow is not back to full strength next year, then any buyer better beware – since Glasnow will be a FA after 2023. The Tigers in particular seem like a rather odd fit as trade partners to me, since their best starter Turnbull is in a similar situation like Glasnow: He also had TJS last year, will likely miss this one and become a FA after 2023.

      Gruß,
      BSHH

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  26. Bob Sacamano 310

    3 years ago

    Re-visit that rumored trade deadline deal, but with the Sox: Kimbrel plus cash for Glasnow.

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    • galer18

      3 years ago

      That deal involved Kiermaier and Bryant as well, so not sure I really see the fit there anymore to be honest. In hindsight, I’m thinking that deal, for the Rays, was more 2021 focused than anything else.

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  27. SportsFan0000

    3 years ago

    Glasnow to the Phillies or Tigers?!

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  28. Danrenn

    3 years ago

    Nobody seems to remember Glasnow blaming the injury on the sticky stuff ban. That’s a variable that needs considered.

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  29. Mrsuntan

    3 years ago

    I love Glas but if we could get a top 10-12 type 1st baseman under a reasonable contract for the next couple of years i would do in a heartbeat. That is the one position we put garbage at every year lately

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