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Mets No Longer Looking To Trade Smith, McNeil, Davis?

By Mark Polishuk | March 19, 2022 at 4:40pm CDT

Dominic Smith, Jeff McNeil, and J.D. Davis have all been mentioned as possible or even likely trade candidates due to the Mets’ new influx of position players, yet it now seems as though the club is leaning against a deal.  According to SNY’s Andy Martino, the trio are now “expected to stay” in New York, with a trade of Smith or McNeil in particular looking like a “long shot.”

Of course, there could be some gamesmanship at play here for the Mets.  Publicly, the club has always expressed an interest in keeping the players, with manager Buck Showalter saying earlier this week that he saw McNeil as the team’s regular second baseman.  Saying the same thing privately could simply be a way of trying to entice more of a trade return from interested teams, as one would imagine the Mets would indeed deal any of the three players if another club made a big enough offer.

On the face of it, however, it also makes sense why the Mets would want to retain any or all of the three.  Several members of New York’s veteran roster have battled injury problems either in past seasons or as recently as 2021, plus Robinson Cano is an x-factor in his return from a season-long PED suspension.  Having Davis, McNeil, and Smith on hand as depth would be a big help for the Mets in the event of more injury problems, and the introduction of the DH spot also provides more opportunity to rotate bats in and out of the lineup, so everyone can theoretically stay fresh.

Health issues impacted each of Davis, McNeil, and Smith last season, resulting in only 73 games played for Davis, and both missed time and subpar performance for McNeil and Smith.  It’s safe to assume that these injuries factored into trade talks, as rival teams were likely unwilling to pay a premium for anyone coming off a checkered season, while the Mets likely aren’t keen on selling low on any of the three players.

In Smith’s case, the first baseman played virtually the entire season hurt, as he recently told SI.com’s Pat Ragazzo.  In trying to compensate for a wrist strain suffered in Spring Training, Smith then developed a partial tear in his right labrum in late May or early June.  Labrum surgery wasn’t required, but between the shoulder and wrist problems and a groin injury, Smith hit only .244/.304/.363 with 11 home runs over 493 plate appearances.

After a lot of offseason work to heal and rehab, Smith told Ragazzo that “Nothing hurts right now.  Trust me, if something hurts, everybody will know.  I won’t be out there playing if I’m hurt.  That’s something that’s going to change from the past.”  In regards to his shoulder, Smith felt it had healed but “it’s good enough to go” for the season.  “You still take some swings and feel stuff, and that’s just a part of it.  But….it’s a lot better than last year, I will say that.”

Martino reports that the Padres are one of the teams who have interest in McNeil and Smith, and that interest in Smith has continued even in the wake of San Diego’s acquisition of first baseman Luke Voit.  With Voit now adding to an already crowded first base/DH situation for the Padres, presumably any Smith deal would hinge on the Padres being able to fulfill their aim of trading Eric Hosmer, though Smith can also play left field.  The versatile McNeil could play second base, third base, or either corner outfield spot for San Diego, which would give the Padres some flexibility as they try to fill the void left by Fernando Tatis Jr.’s wrist surgery.

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  1. dsett75

    3 years ago

    Heck, I totally forgot about these guys, lol. Oakland is running the trade action so far.

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  2. PitcherMeRolling

    3 years ago

    Going to need a lot of depth this season. If you can’t get anything useful for them now, keep them.

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    • ABStract

      3 years ago

      Dude, props on the name! That’s genius!!
      Gotta love Pac!

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      I had a similar user name back in the day, but used Rolen as in Scott. Love it.

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  3. krumbledkookie

    3 years ago

    I’m perfectly comfortable going forward with McNeil at 2B, and Davis and Dom splitting time at DH. The glaring weakness that the Mets refused to address in the off-season was the bullpen, especially after losing Aaron Loup.

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    • Shoeless Joe

      3 years ago

      Best post here. Familia was addition by subtraction, however. Jansen would have been great pickup. Kimbrel available…..

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        If anyone had money on Paul Sewald to be the latest ‘one that got away,’ they’re a gosh darned liar.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Familia is so under appreciated by the Metsies it’s ridiculous. Perhaps it’s because I’m used to seeing abysmal bullpens, but Familia was a net positive for the Mets even last year.

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        • carlos15

          3 years ago

          Familia is horrendous. He starts every hitter 2-0, and is forced to telegraph fastballs the rest of the at bat. Patient hitters destroy him because they let him fall behind and tee off on him. Bad hitters chase him which salvages his stat line to a degree. But even if he escapes an inning it’s usually with runners on base and outs are typically hit hard. Short of bad hitters chasing his splitter he’s awful. If you can’t throw a strike in the major leagues you shouldn’t be there.

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        • raisinsss

          3 years ago

          Supported by data or just “your opinion?”

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          You haven’t seen him pitch, have you…

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          His numbers state otherwise. The Mets bullpen is actually worse off without him, but I’m sure Cohen will find some suitable arms.

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        • metsie1

          3 years ago

          Jeurys “Under appreciated”. Let’s revisit this in July. Your stomach is going to have a hole in it the size of a basketball and it won’t be from cheese steaks. Don’t worry, I’ll have mine from Adam Ottavino. We all have our own burdens to carry.

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        • Krlnd

          3 years ago

          Even at his best back in 2016, Familia gave Met fans massive headaches (to say the least). He’s extremely prone to giving up clutch hits.

          In my 40+ years of being a Mets fan, IMO the only Met reliever that caused more stress was Armando Benitez (aka Blownitez). Doug Sisk back in the 1980s would round out my top 3.

          With Familia’s penchant for giving up memorable, towering HRs at a pitcher’s park like Citi Field, I can only imagine how many he may give up at cozy CBP.

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        • krumbledkookie

          3 years ago

          Don’t you remember Mel Rojas?

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @metsie1 The Phillies bullpen was historically bad. We’re used to this. I’ll happily take the Mets scraps.

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        • Krlnd

          3 years ago

          Yes, Mel is also a worthy candidate, but I would have him outside my top 3 of Benitez, Familia and Sisk.

          Side note, Mel came over in a trade with the Cubs that brought one of my favorite Met relievers, Turk Wendell (with his shark-toothed necklace and hilarious habit of slamming the rosin bag on the mound!)

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        • NostraThomas

          3 years ago

          Paul O’Neill does lol.

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        • txman22

          3 years ago

          Have we forgotten Diaz’s 1st year. Worse than any of the top 3 closers.

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        • whyhayzee

          3 years ago

          Tugger was infamous for getting out of his own jams, then pounding his glove on his leg as he walked off the field. I used to imitate him.

          There are plenty of relievers who thrive by being put in the right situations. Statistics have limited usefulness in this regard. You need a lot of arms out there these days. I never complain about any signing, it’s always wait and see.

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    • alproof

      3 years ago

      Why have they not been playing Mauricio at 2B or 3B in the minors?

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      • Krlnd

        3 years ago

        Probably to keep his trade value at his peak as a SS.

        Mets already have 2 top 3B prospects in Baty and Vientos and Mauricio may be viewed as too tall for 2B at almost 6’4″.

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  4. letsgomets 2

    3 years ago

    Gamesmanship by the Mets. These players are eminently available.

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    • raisinsss

      3 years ago

      Pshhh Brodie would have traded Dom, Jd, “Mac,” and Matt Allan for Hosmer, Paddack, and a coupon for $10 off the dinner buffet at Mohegan Sun.

      More like AlderDUMB amirite /s

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      • BigFootsFart

        3 years ago

        Alderson I don’t mind. Brodie was wet hot garbage as GM. But even he wasn’t dumb enough to do that trade.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          Brodie did a decent job including rather smart in the draft. and Mets finished 10 games over .500 in his only full season as GM.

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    • A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us

      3 years ago

      McNeil is not getting traded. Dude is without question the starting 2b. At some point they COULD bring up Vientos to play 3rd and move Escobar to 2nd. However there’s no way in hell they are relying on Cano in a starting role. The job is McNeil’s to lose.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      I don’t think it’s gamesmanship at all. I don’t think they ever intended to trade those guys, it was always just fan and media hype. It just makes no sense to trade away such good players when you know you’re selling low. Plus, they need these good players in order to win. Fans are more obsessed with trading these guys than the team ever was.

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  5. raisinsss

    3 years ago

    I mean I guess I could also play LF but Im obviously not.

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  6. 9lives

    3 years ago

    Mets should move them all for prospects at the trade deadline along with deGrom and retool for next season in hopes of competing for a playoff spot.

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    • BigFootsFart

      3 years ago

      They can get a kings ransom for degrom if he murks again which he will

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    • A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us

      3 years ago

      What are you smoking? Mets didn’t spend 280+ million to not try to make the playoffs. Even if they can’t overtake the braves there are now 3 wild card spots. I’m not saying the Mets are a lock to make it by any means esp bc they have a habit of metsing it up. But I’d you don’t think they are one of the 6 strongest rosters in the NL on paper at least you are just not being objective.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        I know, now would be the dumbest time to suddenly pivot to a retool. Plus, deGrom has a full NTC.

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  7. cwsOverhaul

    3 years ago

    Wish WSox would work out a deal for lefty bat/2B McNeil with your Mets where Kimbrel can close (and fill in the blanks cash/modest prospect exchange).

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    • AgentF

      3 years ago

      Always felt that White Sox were the best fit for a Mets trade. When McNeil looked like he was “definitely” on his way out, just felt that a move for Kimbrel + Crochet might have been a decent fit.

      Reply
    • raisinsss

      3 years ago

      I thought there was more potential with the As. Mets looking to trade low cost guys with upside for ml-ready sp. happened for bassitt but I thought they’d be able to grab another arm.

      Reply
  8. BigFootsFart

    3 years ago

    Maybe the DH saves the Mets lineup and now we can officially see a healthy Smith obliterate the opposition

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    • bhambrave

      3 years ago

      I hope Smith is healthy. His quote didn’t inspire much confidence.

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    • raisinsss

      3 years ago

      JD bookmarked a merely average 2020 with wrcs in the 130s. He needs to play if he’s hitting.

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      • LongTimeFan1

        3 years ago

        When JD’s healthy and playing regularly, he hits and gets on base.

        Good pinch hitter too when healthy.

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  9. dlw0906

    3 years ago

    I’m not really sold on the Mets offense. It pales in comparison to the Braves and Phils. The rotation looks good and the bullpen solid but a lack of power in the starting 9 is going to catch up with them. This season has the potential to become a complete trainwreck if any of the big 3 starters miss substantial time.

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    • BigFootsFart

      3 years ago

      Alonso, Escobar, Lindor, Cano all have had 30 plus homer seasons in the past and somewhat recently. This team may rake in a bunch of doubles and walks. We should see if Dom and JD can be a power bat at DH, either of them.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        The fact that Cano hit 30 home runs in 2016 has absolutely no relevance to 2022.

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        3 years ago

        Home Runs are nice for fans but are one facet of an offense. Ask the Twins who hit 228 home runs last year and scored just 729 runs if they would have rather had the White Sox 190 HR and 796 runs scored. The Mets in 2021 had a 28% baserunner scored % (lg avg 31%) and a 37% extra base taken % (1st to 3rd, 2nd to `home – lg avg was 40%). Marte (38 RS%, 80XB%), & Canha (37 RS%, 43% XB%), know how to run bases. Mets were in the bottom 10 in 2021 in scoring from 2nd on a single, scoring from 1st on a double, and just getting a single with a runner on first. The mets were the worst team in baseball in bases taken (advances on fly balls, wild pitches etc) The Mets were also bottom 10 in stolen bases as well as SB%. . Home runs are nice, but the Mets need to be much better at everything else to score runs and the offseason additions will `help.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      3 years ago

      Need another bat – lefty outfielder. Should look to bring back Conforto.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        Nimmo is a lefty. Marte in CF, plus they have Canha. I don’t see any need for Conforto at all.

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  10. bhambrave

    3 years ago

    Any bench with a couple of these guys on it is a strong bench.

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  11. Bill Kane

    3 years ago

    With a 26 man roster do they have room for all 3 players considering all the players you got this winter. Just asking

    1
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    • raisinsss

      3 years ago

      Cano is kind of the elephant in the room here.

      But for him, they’d all have some apparent role. You’d take 2020 Cano if you think he can do it without the stanozolol. Heck, you’d take a PED suspension too, if I’m the Mets.

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      • A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us

        3 years ago

        If he gets popped again it isn’t a suspension — it’s a lifetime ban

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        • raisinsss

          3 years ago

          Yep 🙂

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Yes, absolutely. And someone will end up injured before opening day.

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  12. bravesfan

    3 years ago

    They have an awkward roster at the moment. It’s a bunch of pretty good players with not exactly the best fit to put them on the field.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      I think they improved on that a lot. Marte is a better CFr than they’ve had. Escobar allows Davis to stay off the field. Their catchers can actually field. Davis/Smith is a great DH/PH combo.

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    • JackStrawb

      3 years ago

      @bravesfan Not to mention that given the starting OFs lack of durability, the Mets are about 150 starts short in the OF. Who’s the 4th OFer (who will lead the team in OF starts)? And if it’s McNeil, given he’ll be getting more starts out there than any of Canha, Marte, or Nimmo, who’s starting at 2b?

      Missing an OFer, a weak bench when it comes to taking the field, a weakened bullpen, and they’re still giving 50+ starts to David Peterson, Yamamoto, Oswalt, Trevor Williams… It’s likely to be a rough season in many respects, with 85 wins about the median.

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  13. angt222

    3 years ago

    Smart for the Mets to retain their lineup depth. Cano could absolutely suck at the plate and get himself released. At least in that scenario you have Dom & JD to choose from to DH & worst case platoon them.

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  14. HBan22

    3 years ago

    Keep Davis and McNeil. Trade Smith for pitching.

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  15. albert-3

    3 years ago

    All of them for charlie blackmon and prospects

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  16. NostraThomas

    3 years ago

    I understand holding on to the bats. Injuries always happen in the spring, and we can expect the rosters to be expanded, at least early in the year. You also don’t know what players may shake loose. Hold the fort right now.

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  17. csalko

    3 years ago

    Plays an entire year injured and then says that he feels good and believe if he was injured he wouldn’t be playing. Ya know. Like he did apparently all of last year. None of which actually required any surgery. So who really knows what was wrong with him and what wasn’t.

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  18. whyhayzee

    3 years ago

    All three healthy can totally rake with the bat and struggle with the glove. Classic Mets. Turner and Murphy come to mind. The days of Howard Johnson, kind of good at everything, but not great at anything, are long behind us now.

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    • mookiesboy

      3 years ago

      Dom is a good 1B and NcNeil is fine in RF

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      • JackStrawb

        3 years ago

        By every measure except your eyes, Dom is a very poor 1Bman, and that’s before his non-existent durability is taxed.

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        • Bill M

          3 years ago

          You’re both wrong. He’s not good at 1B & he’s not very poor. Average

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  19. dswaim

    3 years ago

    Only an idiot would start Cano over McNeil or JD. He’s only successful with PEDs. He’s a negative WAR player without them

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