Eric Hosmer and Wil Myers have been regulars in trade rumors for months, and that status hasn’t changed now that the lockout is over. The Padres have been “aggressively shopping” both players in trade talks, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand, in an effort to clear some salary and roster space, plus create some more flexibility under the competitive balance tax.
Even with the tax threshold rising to $230MM this season, the Padres are already projected for a luxury tax number just shy of $218MM (as per Roster Resource). Since the Padres did exceed the CBT last season, they’d have to pay the larger “two-timer” penalty for crossing the threshold in consecutive years, so all things considered, the club would surely prefer to avoid a second tax overage if at all possible.
Getting either Hosmer or Myers off the books would help greatly in this regard. Since a player’s tax number is determined by the average annual value over the life of his contract, Hosmer’s tax number is $18MM per season and Myers is $13.83MM, though both players are set to earn more in actual dollars. Myers is owed $20MM in 2022 and there is a $20MM club option on his services for 2023 with a $1MM buyout, while Hosmer is owed a total of $59MM over the 2022-25 seasons.
These pricey contracts also don’t hold a ton of appeal to other teams, which is why San Diego has explored any number of scenarios to try and swing a deal. The Padres have looked to try and attach a prospect (Luis Campusano and Robert Hassell were mentioned) to Hosmer in talks with the Rangers and Cubs last summer, as some kind of sweetener is likely necessary to move the first baseman. Beyond the $59MM, Hosmer has also posted essentially replacement-level production (0.6 fWAR) since the start of the 2018 season. Myers has been similarly inconsistent over that same timeframe but his 5.5 fWAR has clearly marked him as the more productive of the two. If Myers may be the easier trade candidate, however, the Padres’ needs in the outfield would only be increased if Myers was suddenly no longer around.
This isn’t to say that San Diego isn’t already eyeing replacements. As Kevin Acee of The San Diego Union-Tribune puts it via Twitter, the Padres’ “Plan A” would seem to be a scenario where the club signs Seiya Suzuki and Nelson Cruz, while moving one of Hosmer or Myers. Several other teams have been linked to both Suzuki and Cruz, though in Cruz’s case, recent reports have indicated the Padres could be a finalist for the veteran slugger. Even with one of Hosmer or Myers dealt, plans to add two prominent free agent bats could seem to indicate that the Friars are willing to spend at least in the range of that $230MM tax threshold.
In other team news, first base/outfield prospect Daniel Montesino will miss the 2021 season due to Tommy John surgery, Jeff Sanders of The San Diego Union-Tribune reports. Montesino signed for a $1MM bonus during the 2020-21 international signing period, and posted a big .934 OPS over 243 plate appearances for the Padres’ Dominican Summer League squad last year. MLB Pipeline (24th) and Baseball America (29th) each listed Montesino within their rankings of San Diego’s top 30 prospects.
One of six teams with zero championships
Thats cool. Is your self worth / self esteem tied to how well your team does or something?
If it’s any consolation, I don’t believe the Padres curse is quite as strong as the Mets curse at this current time.
Buyers remorse. We hear about it again & again. Tough crap! You paid for it, you eat it! Hosmer & Meyers are professionals. I’m sure they’re tired about SD bitching & moaning.
Yet the first chance they can over pay, they’ll do it,again & start bitching & moaning all over again! Shut up & reap what you sow.
The same can be said for the Anaheim Angels. Yes. I call them the Anaheim Angels because there is nothing L.A. about them. They signed King Albert to a ten year 250 million deal even though they didn’t even know how old he was. That has to go down as one of the worst contracts ever. There was also the Josh Hamilton signing. He really sucked. I love when they lose.
So embarrassing. Poverty franchise. Always will be the lil bro, despite what their little casual fans want to cry about.
A poverty franchise that has the second highest payroll in baseball?
Poverty franchise? Do you even watch baseball? Probably typical Dodger “fan” that couldn’t name 5 players
I am NOT an SD fan, but they have at least been to a World Series, which is more than Seattle can say.
San Diego will NOT win a World Series with their current GM. He is horrible! As the thread above says….the Padres over spend then immediately have buyers remorse (but they got caught hiding medical issues of their trades so often, they finally got their hand slapped).
Hello Mark,
Is it ‘will miss the 2021’ or ‘will miss the 2022’? Can you fix the error? Please & thank you!
“In other team news, first base/outfield prospect Daniel Montesino will miss the ‘2021’ season due to Tommy John surgery, Jeff Sanders of The San Diego Union-Tribune reports.”
Yeah man, better fix that error, there is no way we can figure what you are trying to say. Please and thank you!
Ok you know baseball is back cause I’m going to say it the Brewers should trade Lindbolm for Myers and Campusano with 4 million going to the Brewers.
Padres aren’t attaching Campusano to 1 year of Myers. And bad trade ideas are always year round whether baseball is played or not.
Mr. Polishuk wrote all that can be said about the situation.
I’ve never cared for A.J. Preller. He has no patience, his teams have no self-discipline, and he loves to make flashy moves to get flashy players and pub. He plays rotisserie baseball for real – he’s miscast running an MLB FO. He churns around that roster so much that I’ve lost interest in following who’s on it each week. He’s stuck with Myers and Hosmer because he gave out those contracts and no one in MLB can afford to be stuck with them unless they’re being paid to – a situation that has been going on for 3 years now.
I understand why he’s admired by so many posters on these boards.
The Myers contract was very reasonable, considering what kind of player he was back in 2016 or whenever it was signed. That had all the makings of a bargain. It was the trade that was insane — they got him in the same deal that put Trea Turner in Washington, and which was also one of the small handful of bad trades the Rays have made in the last ten years. The Hosmer signing was ridiculous from the get go, and everyone but Preller knew it. He probably knows it now.
The Myers contract was not “reasonable” at the time. He’d had one good year, was controlled, and was being paid an outrageous salary at the time in the out years.
As for Turner – Rizzo was the one that jumped in and demanded Turner in the trade if the Nationals were to be a part of it. At the time it was made there comments and/or articles in here noting that FO types around MLB could not believe Preller was so dumb as to give away Turner – and they would have offered far more if they knew he was available.
Point being that when a FO commits to 2 players as cornerstones on their team for years, they don’t show up less than 2 years later moaning that they can’t move their long-term contracts.
I was shocked when they signed Hosmer for the amount they were going to pay him simply because he isn’t that good. I figure the Nationals can take Myers and Hosmer with Bell going to S.D. However, the Padres better ship two top ten prospects also.
If he wasn’t ego first and baseball knowledge second, he wouldn’t have these problems. Both these signings were bad from the get go. I don’t think Preller has gravitas. He just buys the shiny thing.
Good luck. I love Hassell but will take my chances of producing more war with the 60 million in cash. Better start offering both prospects.
Giving up Hassell is not worth getting out of Hosmer’s contract. If they can’t get it done with Campusano, then it’s time to ride it out and hope he brings some value. I personally think having an established bench boss like Melvin will bring more out of the entire team, Hosmer included.
I think Hosmer is a better hitter than Cruz.
That’s a bold take right there.
That’s not bold. That’s such a cold take, it could undo some of the damage global warming has done in the antartic.
“Bold” is one way to describe it….
Better hitter of what?
I think you’re really really smart
Hosmer is hot garbage.
Is not what you said, it’s that 2 people liked your comment.
Burner accounts?
Let’s talk about Hosmer some more
Myers would be worth acquiring for a team like Baltimore, if they could get a good prospect out of it.
That Hosmer deal is ugly, though.
Hosmer is owed 4 years 59 mill
Patrick Corbin is owed 3 years 80 ish mill.
Hosmer for Corbin + cash seems like a bad contract for bad contract scenario. Maybe Corbin does better pitching in Petco than Nationals Park.
Sounds good……
The Nationals have little pitching, a 1B and plenty of DH types.
Yeah just as you made a point to call out a ridiculous trade, I’ll do the same with you! Why would the senators trade a left handed starting pitcher with still some upside for a first baseman with diminished defensive abilities and a poor bat? What prospects are you adding to this for the nats to agree to this deal?
First. Nationals. Not senators.
Second. No prospects. Bad contract for bad contract. Youre hoping change of scenery helps both is what it amounts to.
Third. Trading campusano and 1 year of myers for 1 year of josh linblom isnt remotely the same as swapping a bad 1st/dh contract for a bad pitcher contract. Not even in the same category.
@billysbballz All of them.
If the point is for the Padres to save money in 2022 the Nats would have to add “a lot” of cash.
Not sure why they would do that.
Corbin and 10 mill in the first year. No money attached in 2023 or 2024. Pushes Corbins salary down to 13 mill while moving Hosmers 20 mill for 2022.
It seems like Suzuki to the Padres is a done deal with his and Yu Darvish’s social media posts. Could be wrong though.
Seems that way yeah. Which would make Myers seemingly a goner for the best offer. Just a question of what they have to attach to make it happen. With all the corner OF left on the market it’s gonna be tough to sell him without a pretty decent prospect attached.
Suzuki would play left, presumably. We (the padres) still need a right fielder, so I don’t see Myers being dealt.
If so, it’s 10 to 1 that Suzuki will be no better than Myers and we’ll be reading that the Padres are trying to move his contract within 2 years.
(I’d suggest Mr. Suzuki will be more of a Shogo Akiyama than an Ichiro Suzuki.)
For a FO whose top quality is supposedly finding and signing prospects, one would think they have a half-dozen high-ceiling OF types that Myers is blocking.
I’m not sold on Suzuki being above average myself. Rather the padres get castellanos, Rosario or soler. But those guys will command higher AAVs
I’m not fully sold on Suzuki, either. He may end up being fantastic, I don’t know. My thing is it’s harder to evaluate a hitter changing leagues, and moving to a different country to boot. You can look at a pitcher’s pitches, and they’ll move the same, at the same speed. With a hitter, you have to project if he can hit some ML pitching the same. Way more chances for error.
Well said Appalachian
NYY gets: Eric Hosmer, Wil Myers (both at half salaries)
SD gets: Voit, Severino, Torres (most overrated player in the AL)
I suggest the Yankees take Hosmer if they can get Campusano. They need a catcher now & for the future & they are one of the few teams capable of absorbing Hos’ contract. Strike now, or be left behind…….again.
I would not give up Sevy & Torres for two expensive players we don’t need, don’t want, & wouldn’t fill any need for the future.
The padres would include campusano in that proposal I’m sure. A 3 for 3 swap.
Clipper, would do you think of Voit for Hosmer? If SD wants to move him that bad like you said the Yanks can absorb the contract. Question is how do you compare Hosmer to Rizzo? If they sign Rizzo they can move Voit for something else of need.
Not close. Voit has some value, and Hosmer is tons underwater.
As a Blue Jays fan, I like it.
Yankees are not trading Severino, their pitching is thin as it is
Severino could net them a decent return though. He’d do better on a lower market team
Gads…..
The Padres already dumped Adam Frazier that they got in last years stretch run because they don’t need another 2B, and you want them to take on Gleyber who’s not as good?
Typical Yankee fan trade.
You guys should do stand up at sports bars.
you want them to take on Gleyber who’s not as good?
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Gleyber is just one part of the trade. The trade proposed by Yanks2 would be a flat out steal by the Padres.
Hos, Wil and Campy for Voit, Sevy and Torres? Hell, I’ll throw in a dozen fish tacos and a twelver of Pacifico if we get this done today!
Right? Lol the two of us will pitch in for their travel costs.
Attaching Hassell to Hosmer might be worthwhile for KC. Sure, they’re rebuilding, but say Hosmer has a great comeback year and opts out, by then top 1B prospect Pratto is ready for the bigs and you’ve also acquired a much needed OF prospect to the already solid farm system. Might even be able to cut bait with Santana while you’re at it.
I don’t see hosmer opting out of 3/39 unless he has a career year.
Anthony Rizzo is mostly projected for a contract around 2/30M.
For Hosmer to hit well enough to opt out of 3/40M or something like that, he’d have to absolutely rake. Unlikely imo.
Hosmer isn’t opting out. It’s not happening. Ever.
At Least we don’t have a Bauer club house problem
Whats worse than Hosmer contract? Bauers.
Myers, that contract is no big deal because he has value. I would keep him.
Hosmer, he would play well as a Yankee.
Could maybe talk a team into taking on Myers. Hosmer is untradeable to almost any team in the league. The only way it makes sense to take that money on is if a rebuilding team knows it won’t be competing for the duration of that deal, and that’s an awfully long time. Maybe Colorado would help out their division rival if SD vastly overpaid in attaching assets along with Hosmer?
Some team will take Myers. He’s only owed $23.5 million (that’s including the $1 mil buyout for 2023) and consistently puts up a wRC+ around 110, 15-18 home runs, and a .760-.770 OPS. Sure, $23.5 million is a bit steep, but not awful. They wouldn’t have to give up one of their top prospects. Maybe a Gore depending if they’re still high on him. Maybe an MLB guy like Weather or Paddack.
Agreed. And Myers will be in a contract year, which often motivates higher performance. I can definitely see moving him, without having to include a Top 10-er type prospect. maybe add in some cash.
Hosmer? Hassell AND lots more (cash or prospects).
So Rock Star GM….if that’s the case, what’s the problem with keeping him and playing him……he’s the one who signed him to this “steep” contract…..
Really tired of reading about Padres player trade and acquisition rumors each and every day……NEVER SATISFIED!
Preller is like taking a small child into a toy store and telling him/her that they can have anything they want for under $25.
The kid picks up something, starts walking out, sees something else, puts the first thing down and takes that….and the routine continues on and on until the adult puts a stop to it.
I know. I was the adult in the story a long, long time ago. Learned my lesson.
It will continue to be a rumor as Long as san Diego is shopping them. Therefore it will be speculated
It’s better convo then reading 4 posts in one day about who’s interested in Conforto.
Rocky: Oh I agree…I’d keep him. Pretty good year coming.
The kid picks up something, starts walking out, sees something else, puts the first thing down and takes that…
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I’ve never seen anything like this, and not even remotely close. I’m a roto player that likes to trade. I think Preller trades more than I do. I’ll give him credit for developing a great farm. As I’ve said before, when Mookie was on the block, I was hoping to trade with SD. Back then, they could’ve taken their top 5 prospects off the table, and their farm would still have been better than the RS.
It’s inconceivable that they traded half their farm, became the 2nd biggest payroll, and still aren’t .500.
Attaching Gore to Myers would be very very stupid.
No team exists to do favors for SD
Are you called Mookiesboy because your mouth is attached to his baseballs? Go Pads!
I thought there might be a fit there with a trade for Stanton but then they went and signed Locastro so I guess we’re all good now.
Myers could man LF for the Phillies ..can the Pads add a pitcher (swingman)? Haseley or Moniak thrown in ….
Oh that Rock Star GM if yours Padres fans…..one screw up after another…lucky with a wealthy owner hungry for success which keeps the pocketbook open…….he’s the one who signed both these guys and now, he wants somebody else to inherit his mistakes……what a putz!
For the record, I don’t believe Preller is an especially great GM. Every GM whiffs sometimes, however. It’s just the nature of the beast. I think it’s better he tries, and he’s willing to essentially admit a mistake. There are some GMs who are way too timid, content to never take the big swing.
True, at the very least he is entertaining.
Most Padres fans don’t want Myers traded. Lots of them think he will have a big walk year. Plus it opens another hole that would need to be filled.
Hosmer maybe a bit better in 2023 when they ban the shift. His main problem is his launch angle.
would like to see the Phillies consider Myers if SD is willing to pay down some salery or add a prospect. he could hit well at CBP.
I have no idea why Myers is even being talked about. He’s $14M against the CBT. Anyone they get to replace him will cost more. And with a cash cost of $22.5M, if he’s looking to move him to a small market team, any cash that SD picks up counts against the CBT.
That said, this has Preller written all over it.
Amen, I’ve been saying the same thing for these last few speculative months. Nobody in SD has been trying to move Myers and nobody outside of SD has been receptive to taking Hos. These 2 items are not related. The $14m “cap hit” is fine for his walk-year ’22.
That said, again, let’s everyone talk about Hosmer a few many more times
Let’s go Cubbies . Grab both for prospect haul
i don’t get the insane consumed lust with getting rid of myers. dude isn’t worth 20 mil but he’s a solid player and has 1 year left in a position of need. good grief… Preller is on the verge of getting rid of more high level prospects just to clear salary. just eat the money. you’ve done it plenty of times before. even hosmer. bench him if you want. but if we trade hassell or campusano just to clear him off the team or any other quality minor league talent i’m gonna be LIVID.
Will Myers seems like a movable piece due to a club option next season, but a prospect must be attached in the transaction. I can see Giants, Yankees, Redsox or even Baltimore being options. Depending on the team the prospect might need to be very good.
Hosmer length alone is bad enough, although his price does go down (not enough), for a 1B/DH type that is below AVG compared to other 1B’s. The prospect needs to be high caliber for a team to bite this apple.
If Nutting actually cared about the Pirates winning, PGH would become the Arizona Coyotes of MLB.
Take any and every bad contract in the league in exchange for quality assets while bottoming out for high draft picks.
They’ve got the bottoming out part down OK but they do it with a team that makes about as much as Scherzer.
Hey I know, let’s talk about Hosmer again.
Neither one will be traded. Myers will have his option bought out after this season and then probably sign elsewhere. Eric Hosmer will finish out his contract in San Diego and then ride off into the sun.
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