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Angels Designate Justin Upton For Assignment

By TC Zencka | April 2, 2022 at 12:25pm CDT

The Angels have designated Justin Upton for assignment, per The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal (via Twitter). Upton is owed $28MM this season in the last year of his deal. Anyone who claims Upton would have to take on the $28MM contract, so the likelihood here is that Upton will soon before a free agent.

The Angels appear ready to go young in the outfield. The burden to flank all-world superstar Mike Trout in the outfield will now fall to highly-touted prospects Jo Adell and Brandon Marsh. Taylor Ward, 28, will also be in the mix for playing time there.

As for Upton, the 34-year-old has proved a streaky hitter in recent years, though his final line came in at just .211/.296/.409 over 362 plate appearances. He did, however, still slug southpaws to the tune of .225/.355/.483. As a free agent, Upton could be a low-cost option to provide some value in a short-side platoon. He’s also been working out at first base this spring, which could give an avenue to playing time somewhere. Speculatively speaking, the Red Sox, Padres, Tigers, Rangers, Dodgers, or Rockies might be interested in giving Upton a look in this capacity.

Today’s move ends what has to be considered an overall disappointing tenure in L.A. for Upton, given that he hit a modest .232/.322/.443 with 75 home runs over his 1512 PA in an Angels uniform. Injuries were undoubtedly a factor, as Upton has battled back problems in recent years and also missed the majority of the 2019 season with both knee issues and turf toe.

While Upton’s numbers as an Angel still work out as above-average (106 OPS+) offensive production, more was expected given Upton’s salary. The Halos acquired Upton from the Tigers in August 2017, and though Upton had an opt-out clause following that season, the two sides worked out a new contract extension to keep Upton in Anaheim. The new deal guaranteed Upton $106MM covering the 2018-22 seasons.

In a corresponding move, Ty Buttrey was reinstated from the restricted list and placed on the 40-man roster. The right-handed reliever has been optioned to Triple-A, per the team. Buttrey had been on the restricted list since last April when he decided to take some time away from baseball, but decided over the winter to return.

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  1. Gwynning

    12 months ago

    Dirt-cheap Padre soon…

    Reply
    • Dodger Dog

      12 months ago

      Or Guardian

      Reply
      • Gtfdrussell

        12 months ago

        I think it depends on how much interest there is in him. I’m sure Cleveland would love to get him for cheap, but I doubt they go much above a few million. The local press is really selling us that Cleveland chose to evaluate youth this year. It doesn’t sound like they’re trying to contend.

        Reply
        • rmullig2

          12 months ago

          He is going to get paid 28M regardless of where he signs. The team that picks him up will pay him the minimum with the Angels paying the rest.. The only way for him to make more is for some other team to pay him a higher salary than 28M.

        • makaio6

          12 months ago

          No he can’t get more than $28m for 2022 (barring unknown incentives in his current contract).

        • TJT88

          12 months ago

          Why would any club play him a dollar more than the league minimum if he’s already owed $28MM. he’ll be lucky that someone takes a flier on him @ the league minimum. It’s laughable to think that anyone would pay him more than that. Do people think before they post on here?

        • candymaldonado

          12 months ago

          No one is going to pay the $28m, but he’s still a highly useful platoon bat. Someone *is* going to take him at the league minimum, and he won’t be “lucky” to get it.

        • deweybelongsinthehall

          12 months ago

          Not happening but Boston needs a righty outfield bat. Rob R is not the answer. Sign him once he’s a free agent and give him a shirt leash. Anyone old enough to remember 1975 recalls Boston’s DH on opening day was Tony C. The team moved on quickly to a rookie named Jim Rice.

        • Steve Nebraska

          12 months ago

          The Braves should consider taking a flier on him to fill in at DH until Acuna is ready. He might be useless but right now they are expected to DH Alex Dickerson. Upton could end up being better than Dickerson and the Braves would only need him for the first month or so. Upton has hit well for Atlanta before so it’s not out of the question he could dead cat bounce at 34 years old. It’s also a risk free pick up with the Angels paying almost all his salary.

        • agentx

          12 months ago

          Take it easy, TJT88.

          Could be that the commenters you correctly pointed out as getting this wrong may not be as well versed in contract matters or even confusing this scenario with the way it would play out in other leagues (e.g., the NBA buyout market).

        • claude raymond

          12 months ago

          When Pablo Sandoval was dfa’d by Boston, the Giants waited for him to become a free agent and signed him to league minimum. And Boston was still on the hook for millions. I believe Sandoval made the Boston many AND the SF money. Makaio6, you say otherwise but i believe that’s incorrect.

        • whyhayzee

          12 months ago

          Yes Dewey, but everyone knew how great Rice was going to be. They also used Juan Beniquez and Bernie Carbo in the outfield. It was the Tony C swan song. The young players were taking over, only YAZ and Rico were left at that point. And if Rice doesn’t get injured at the end of the season, the Fisk home run wins the World Series. What could have been. Sigh.

        • Gtfdrussell

          12 months ago

          Thanks. I didn’t understand that. I knew the Angels paid the difference, but I thought teams could sign him at any price. Knowing that, I think the chances of h signing with Cleveland is about zero. They’ve chosen to evaluate youth this season. Not likely anywhere close to centending.

        • makaio6

          12 months ago

          Claude Raymond Nope. Sandoval signed for the pro-rated (because it was in season) amount of the league minimum. It’s how it works. HE still had years remaining on his contract, mostly paid by the Red Sox. Again, the Giants ONLY paid the league minimum. You’re on the internet. Use it. A little thing called “research”.

        • deweybelongsinthehall

          12 months ago

          Sadly injuries happen. In 75 it was Rice and in 86 it was Buckner who still played but was clearly hurt. I still marvel at Buckner who was the team’s best every day player in August and September. He needed ice and injections before and after every game.

        • TommyHawkBraves

          12 months ago

          2018-2020 the Giants paid Sandoval league minimum and the Red Sox paid the rest.

        • jabronieramone

          12 months ago

          The getting the league minimum to play elsewhere plus the $28 mil from Angels is a raise.

        • winonesooner

          12 months ago

          $27.3 mil!

        • whyhayzee

          12 months ago

          Dewey, don’t forget Seaver, which cost them as well. Having that extra pitcher, especially one with his pedigree, could have made a difference. For the Mets, Sid Fernandez was huge (pun intended). And Buckner gets a totally bad rap on that series. The Game 6 loss had almost nothing to do with him.

        • Cory Taylor

          12 months ago

          You should do some homework before you universally bash anyone who replies. The 28 million is already guaranteed to him. He’s obviously going to clear waivers and then he’s a Free Agent. Anyone can pay him the league minimum but other teams can offer to pay him more to choose to go to their team

        • claude raymond

          12 months ago

          maka, im pretty sure I said the Giants only paid the league minimum. I wasn’t being a DB, so why the attitude. Try reading better, punk

        • Toms Changeup

          12 months ago

          Agreed

        • claude raymond

          12 months ago

          BTW, Maka, I’m not on the internet. Trade Rumors is also an app. FYI, Giants paid Sandoval $2mill AND the braves paid him a prorated league minimum. So he made $2+ mill in 2020. That I got from Spotrac (on the internet). Google it.

        • machurucuto

          12 months ago

          The new team will pay the league minimun and the Angels should pay the difference. It’s not a raise.

        • The Natural

          12 months ago

          Buckner basically played the vast majority of his career on one leg and still had around 2700 hits. Heckuva player.

        • Fever Pitch Guy

          12 months ago

          dewey – That silly “Red Sox need a RHB” cliche fully ended with the Story acquisition.

          Of the 12 non-pitchers currently on the active roster, 8 are RHB and one is a switch hitter. Only 3 are pure LHB (Dugie, Devers and JBJ).

          Not only that, as Cora recently acknowledged, their divisional rivals are loaded with RHP. There’s very few LHP in the AL East.

          In other words, ain’t nothing wrong with adding a LHB.

        • Fever Pitch Guy

          12 months ago

          Game 6 was primarily on Johnny Mac for not bringing in Stapleton.

          And would you believe not too long ago somebody here insisted every manager’s decision is always the right one.

          Scary to think people can be such sheep, going through life without questioning authority at all..

        • makaio6

          12 months ago

          Cory No, they cannot. He gets the guaranteed $28M. Nothing more.

        • makaio6

          12 months ago

          Claude Raymond, then why did you say that I said otherwise? I never said he didn’t get paid by both teams. I said the Giants paid him the (pro-rates) league minimum. Everything else plus the remainder of the contract (minus the league minimum each year paid by the Giants) was paid by the Red Sox.

        • braves2

          12 months ago

          @steve
          not likely. I know that was the original report, but with the rosario signing I would imagine one of them being the DH (probably ozuna) Dickerson, who is the better defende than all 3 of rosario, ozuna and Upton, would play LF until Acuna returns. plus they also have heredia who can play OF

        • whyhayzee

          12 months ago

          NO! The Red Sox could have traded for Keith Hernandez midgame and they still would have lost Game 6. Buckner and Stapleton are meaningless. The Mets won the game because the Red Sox pitchers couldn’t finish the job. And that’s hardly on the manager. Go back and pay attention to what happened. The Mets came up hugely clutch, just like they had all year. They were the best team in baseball in 1986. There was no stopping them. Just ask the Astros.

        • crazybaseballgal

          12 months ago

          The Giants scores during both his tenures. Bochy loved him

        • crazybaseballgal

          12 months ago

          You’re correct re Pablo but can’t you be nice ?

        • GarryHarris

          12 months ago

          Juan Beniquez came up as a SS but he was terrible. In 1975, they used him some at 3B. I always wonderd if they use the players where they fit best such as Cecil Cooper at 1B and Yaz in LF. The 75 world series pitted two of the most over-managers in the game.

        • lionelhutz

          12 months ago

          “Anyone can pay him the league minimum but other teams can offer to pay him more to choose to go to their team”

          Other teams can pay him more, but no team will. His new team paying him more than the league minimum does nothing but reduce the amount the Angels have to pay. It doesn’t increase the amount Upton actually receives.

          Upton will get $28 m no matter where he goes. If the new team pays him $700K (I believe the new minimum), the Angels will pay $27.3 m. If the new team pays Upton $900K, the Angels will pay him $27.1 m. The Angels pay the difference between what the new team will pay and the $28 m Upton is owed under his existing contract. The extra money above the minimum the new team pays goes to the Angels, not to Upton. The excess isn’t added on top of Upton’s $28 m. So no new team will pay Upton above the league minimum because paying more won’t go to Upton so it won’t impact Upton’s decision on who he signs with.

          If multiple teams are interested in signing Upton, Upton will get to choose among those teams based on non-financial reasons (proposed playing time, position, role, etc.).

          The only way Upton gets paid more than $28 m is for the new team to pay Upton more than $28 m, in which case the Angels wouldn’t have to pay Upton anything (because they pay the difference between his new salary and the $28 m they owe him, if the new team is paying him $28 m or more, there’s no difference for the Angels to owe). This of course would never happen because even though Upton still has some limited MLB value, he’s not worth $28 m.

          If a player is DFA’ed and some team believes the player is more valuable than what they’re owed, the player will be claimed on waivers and not become a FA. Upton (like Pujols last year) is not as valuable as what he’s owed, so he’ll clear waivers (his contract isn’t picked up) and become a FA.

      • Francys01

        12 months ago

        I’m not surprised by this after the Angels designated for assignment the great Albert Pujols last year. I wonder were he could play next. The Cleveland Spiders should take a look at him their payroll is very low.

        Reply
        • Bart

          12 months ago

          The great? Lolol
          He became a clubhouse cancer when he found out Walsh would be getting the majority of starts at first.

        • Francys01

          12 months ago

          Bart- Lol, I think you are not sure to what I’m referring to. He’s close to 700 home runs and a future a hall of famer. Should I continue saying why he is the great Albert Pujols?

        • Bart

          12 months ago

          Teams play to win games right now. If AJols had been willing to accept the platoon at 1st he would have finished the season in Anaheim.

        • HalosHeavenJJ

          12 months ago

          Angels didn’t cut the great Albert Pujols. They cut the 45 year old version who could barely run, play defense, or hit.

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          There is no evidence to support a Pujols lying about his age and there is a mountain of evidence to support he is his age.

          Also, Pujols got DFAd, because he refused to be platooned with Walsh. He refused to be a part time player.

        • deweybelongsinthehall

          12 months ago

          Playing on a contender solves most clubhouse issues. He doesn’t prove himself and he could be done

        • HalosHeavenJJ

          12 months ago

          There are Albert’s own words, repeated countless times over the years.

          With lack of a birth certificate, I’ll take Albert’s word for it that he’s 2-3 years younger than his childhood friend Octavio Dotel.

          And Dotel’s. And the several others who remember them playing together in the DR.

        • 5toolMVP

          12 months ago

          Regardless of his actual age, the statement holds true. They cut a “45 year old version” of a ball player that could barely run, play D or hit. Doesn’t matter if he was age 36, 38, 41 or whatever. He played like a washed up 45 year old.

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          If he lied about his age, then he lied on Federal applications, and committed multiple felonies.

          So please show me data where Pujols lied about his age. And committed fraud not only to the Angels, but to the Federal government.

          Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so.

        • HalosHeavenJJ

          12 months ago

          He hasn’t come clean but he’s given it away in countless interviews.

          The biggest thing is his well documented lifetime friendship with 48 year old Octavio Dotel. Both men, many family members, coaches, friends, have all told stories about them being 2-3 years apart in the DR.

          And there are thing like Pujols saying he remembers being 12 or 13 and hitting a home run against Dotel. He said it felt like yesterday despite it being 29 years ago. He was claiming to be 38 at the time.

          Either his parents lied on one piece of paper when he enrolled in high school or dozens of others, including himself and Dotel, have lied about his childhood.

        • HalosHeavenJJ

          12 months ago

          I didn’t say it. Albert did. Many times.

          Show me proof of his birth. You can’t.

        • deweybelongsinthehall

          12 months ago

          He wanted to try to play on a winner and since he is a HOF, the team granted him his release.

        • deweybelongsinthehall

          12 months ago

          Halo11, just because he wasn’t prosecuted doesn’t mean he didn’t lie. The lie (if there was one) was not pertinent to him being in the U.S. unless MLB or the Angels complained about it.

        • Steve Nebraska

          12 months ago

          Halo11Fan, read these articles:
          https://www.insider.com/albert-pujols-lying-about-his-age-2021-3#:~:text=Albert%20Pujols%20is%20listed%20as,final%20year%20of%20his%20contract.

          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/16/albert-pujols-age-questions-major-league-baseball

          https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Lying-about-age-not-uncommon-for-Dominican-1781935.php

          https://bleacherreport.com/articles/380197-the-cases-of-wandy-rodriguez-and-miguel-tejada-lying-for-a-better-life

          It is very common for Dominican players in particular to lie about their age because it is so easy for them to get away with it. Miguel Tejada did it. Wandy Rodriguez did it. Albert Pujols did it. They do it to get drafted higher. Pujols was already only a 14th round pick. Imagine how much lower he would have been drafted if people realized he was 3 or 4 years older. It’s easy to get away with in the Dominican because the records aren’t as meticulously kept up with there and it’s easy to lie and then destroy any definitive documents that legally listed your true age. The federal government is very lenient on people who do this for baseball reasons because it’s mostly a victimless crime. No one is ever going to go after them for “fraud” and they have probably destroyed the evidence that could be used to convict them anyway.

          Your talking about it as if we are in a court of law and if 100% convicting evidence isn’t presented that means he didn’t do it. We aren’t in a court of law. Whether he could be convicted or not is meaningless because no one would ever charge any of them with a crime for this. Like I said, many other Dominican players have done this and none of them have ever been charged with a crime. Do you really think the United States Federal government wants to go make an example out of Albert Pujols for something like this? They already let Wandy Rodriguez and Miguel Tejada get away with it. No one really cares about it anymore. At this point, believing Albert Pujols didn’t lie about his age is similar to believing Barry Bonds never used steroids. If you want to live your life with your head in the sand, that’s really none of my business. That doesn’t change the fact that Albert Pujols, Miguel Tejada and Wandy Rodriguez all definitely lied about their age and everyone with any common sense knows it.

        • Steve Nebraska

          12 months ago

          @Halo11Fan:
          I posted 4 links to articles about Pujols lying to cover up his age but MLBTR is “awaiting moderation” on the links right now. I guess they are trying to make sure I didn’t post a link to something offensive. Anyway, those links should be available as soon as the moderators can clear them.

          It is very common for Dominican players in particular to lie about their age because it is so easy for them to get away with it. Miguel Tejada did it. Wandy Rodriguez did it. Albert Pujols did it. They do it to get drafted higher. Pujols was already only a 14th round pick. Imagine how much lower he would have been drafted if people realized he was 3 or 4 years older. It’s easy to get away with in the Dominican because the records aren’t as meticulously kept up with there and it’s easy to lie and then destroy any definitive documents that legally listed your true age. The federal government is very lenient on people who do this for baseball reasons because it’s mostly a victimless crime. No one is ever going to go after them for “fraud” and they have probably destroyed the evidence that could be used to convict them anyway.

          Your talking about it as if we are in a court of law and if 100% convicting evidence isn’t presented that means he didn’t do it. We aren’t in a court of law. Whether he could be convicted or not is meaningless because no one would ever charge any of them with a crime for this. Like I said, many other Dominican players have done this and none of them have ever been charged with a crime. Do you really think the United States Federal government wants to go make an example out of Albert Pujols for something like this? They already let Wandy Rodriguez and Miguel Tejada get away with it. No one really cares about it anymore. At this point, believing Albert Pujols didn’t lie about his age is similar to believing Barry Bonds never used steroids. If you want to live your life with your head in the sand, that’s really none of my business. That doesn’t change the fact that Albert Pujols, Miguel Tejada and Wandy Rodriguez all definitely lied about their age and everyone with any common sense knows it.

        • angels1961

          12 months ago

          He still will wear halo hat in HOF.

        • hiflew

          12 months ago

          When did the Cardinals add a halo to their hat? Are they changing the mascot from a bird to a priest?

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          I will check them out. I’m a big fan of evidence. I haven’t seen any.

          The other two have already been confirmed. After 9-11 America got serious about Visas. They gave a lot of players passes 20 years ago, which is when they would have given Pujols a pass. But lying on every federal piece of paper you put your signature on is not a small thing.

          But when I see evidence, from REAL sources, I’ll change my opinion.

        • Lanidrac

          12 months ago

          Actually, Pujols got DFAed because the Angels were too stupid to play Walsh full-time in RF (and then Pujols at 1B). Even full-time ABs from Pujols would’ve given them better production than the AAA scrubs the Angels were using in the outfield last year, especially once Trout and Upton also got hurt!. (Although those latter 2 injuries are hindsight, the Fowler injury had already happened and alone should’ve pushed Walsh to the OF.)

        • Lanidrac

          12 months ago

          But he wasn’t washed up. He still hit lefties well (even in Anaheim), and even without a platoon his bat is still better than a good portion of other bench players, even when discounting the backup catchers.

        • MrAngelFan

          12 months ago

          Ha! AJols. Now that is pretty clever. My name is Albert Pujols, but you can call me AJols for short.

        • crazybaseballgal

          12 months ago

          Lawdie, obsessing about Pujols age

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          Is it about the GM? One GM? Heck Jack Clark said he was a PED user. That’s evidence?

      • dennis63480

        12 months ago

        Or the Dodgers since they’re gathering some ex Braves

        Reply
      • Redstitch108* 2

        12 months ago

        Indian you mean, right Dodger Dog? We should all refuse that abominable name “Guardians.”

        Reply
      • lady1959

        12 months ago

        Or or or or ….

        Reply
    • Ha-Seong Kim

      12 months ago

      A met fan can hope, right? Lol

      Unfortunately not sure he’ll want to come back after his last stint. No idea though

      Reply
      • makaio6

        12 months ago

        He never played for the Mets.

        Reply
        • Gwynning

          12 months ago

          Inside joke, Ha-Seong and myself are low-key Mets fans today lol

    • Tcsbaseball

      12 months ago

      I know hes owed a lot of money and they have some younger guys but odd timing considering he’s tearing it up this spring

      Reply
    • MrAngelFan

      12 months ago

      He still has power. I am sure he will turn up for as a DH somewhere. He is a defensive liability. Angels can’t really use him at DH. I am sure some team will pick him up.

      Reply
      • Gwynning

        12 months ago

        Agreed MrAngelFan. 318ABs last year and still 17 dongs. He will slide into a DH/LF role somewhere, perhaps even as close as somewhere down the I-5 southbound. He is an upgrade to us right now.

        Reply
      • agentx

        12 months ago

        Upton does have a little pop left, with an outside shot at maybe ripping off a modest late-career, season-or-two-long surge like the briefly resurgent Andruw Jones did with the White Sox (2010) and Yankees (2011).

        Reply
      • Lanidrac

        12 months ago

        Just because they can’t use him as a DH doesn’t mean they can’t use him as a power bat off the bench and as a backup in case someone gets hurt..

        Reply
        • Cosmo2

          12 months ago

          Well DH is the only place he can “backup”. He’s terrible at first base, completely unplayable anywhere else so how does that really help? This would make him exclusively a PH.

        • Lanidrac

          12 months ago

          The Angels were playing him in LF up until last year until he got hurt. That doesn’t suggest he’s unplayable out there. Not good, yes, but playable enough to fill in if an outfielder gets hurt.

    • aragon

      12 months ago

      Why?

      Reply
    • Wowwwwww

      12 months ago

      I don’t understand the confusion on this thread.

      The angels will pay Upton his 28mil salary
      His new team will pay his new salary (likely league minimum).

      So he will earn more than the 28 mil this season assuming he signs somewhere and assuming there’s no offset money language in his contract

      Reply
      • Gwynning

        12 months ago

        The (Veteran minimum wage) money earned from his new team is subtracted from the $28m figure that the Angels are on the hook for. It’s not a “bonus”. His wage is $28m this year.

        Reply
      • lionelhutz

        12 months ago

        I don’t understand the confusion in your response.

        “The angels will pay Upton his 28mil salary
        His new team will pay his new salary (likely league minimum).

        So he will earn more than the 28 mil this season assuming he signs somewhere and assuming there’s no offset money language in his contract”

        This is 100% not how it works. Upton will be paid $28 m no matter what happens. If he retires (or at least isn’t able to find a new team), the Angels pay him $28 m. If he signs somewhere else, the Angels pay the difference between what he’s owed under his contract ($28 m) and what his new team pays. No new team will pay more than the league minimum because none of the money they pay goes to Upton (so it doesn’t factor into his decision where to go), the money the new team pays simply reduces how much the Angels owe. If the new team pays $700K, the amount the Angels must pay is reduced by $700K (they’d owe him $27.3 m).

        This is also generally how breached of contract damages work. If one contracts to buy or lease another’s services, goods, land, etc. for some amount of money and then breaches that contract, they will owe (as breach of contract damages) the difference the between what they contracted to pay and what the other party was able to find as a replacement.

        Say you sign a 1-year lease for an apartment for $2,500/month but after 6 months you break the lease and move out. You’re still on the hook for $2,500/month. Now, your landlord finds a new tenant to move in a month after you moved out, but only for $2,000/month. You would still owe the landlord the full $2,500 for the month the apartment was vacant and another $500/month for the 5 months remaining on your lease ($500 being the difference between what you contracted to pay and what the new tenant is paying).

        Reply
  2. chipperniner7

    12 months ago

    Wow! Was he doing that bad? I remember when he was with the Braves and was good…

    Reply
    • candymaldonado

      12 months ago

      He was having a solid spring, and had a great first half last year, but hasn’t been a quality bat or even consistently healthy for them since 2018. A little surprised by the move just because he’s still a useful platoon guy (838OPS vs lefties last year, vs 652 against righties) if they wanted him for that purpose, but giving Adell and Marsh both a chance to shine is also pretty important to the team’s future.

      Reply
      • HalosHeavenJJ

        12 months ago

        He had one great month last year, June. Every other month his batting average started with a 1 and his defense was sharply declining.

        Still figured he’d make the opening day 28.

        Reply
    • 5toolMVP

      12 months ago

      See 2019, 2020,2021 season stats, WAR, OPS+. All point to a subpar player. Below replacement level since end of 2018.

      Reply
  3. T.T.P.

    12 months ago

    Welcome to San Francisco

    Reply
    • geg42

      12 months ago

      Meh. Not saying no. He is right handed but roster space is tight.

      Reply
  4. kc38

    12 months ago

    Yeah I’m sure they have a good prospect knocking the door down…. What a horrible organization to be apart of

    Reply
    • yankees500

      12 months ago

      Yeah. Brandon Marsh and Jo Adell

      Reply
      • Bart

        12 months ago

        And Ward. They Upton experiment at 1b went horribly wrong in Tuesdays game. This move is the best for everyone. Im sure Upton would rather start somewhere else rather than ride the bench here.

        Reply
      • Robrock30

        12 months ago

        Marsh and Adell looked really special in the inning when Marsh homered yesterday. This move needed to happen now.

        Reply
      • kc38

        12 months ago

        Yeah those two world beaters right there

        Reply
        • Robrock30

          12 months ago

          They looked really special playing together yesterday and they bring youthful exuberance and a winning energy to the Team. They need to play together daily and Upton was sort of blocking this.

        • jdgoat

          12 months ago

          How do you call them a horrible organization for cutting their losses and giving guys who might actually contribute for years more of a chance? I feel like doing the opposite would be the definition of horrible….

        • bkbkbkbk

          12 months ago

          They literally are both top 15 prospects. Tell me you don’t watch baseball but want the other boys to think you like sports without saying.

    • advplee

      12 months ago

      Why? Because he is not good enough to take up a roster spot? Not an Angels fan but get real.

      Reply
    • iverbure

      12 months ago

      Because they released 2 high priced bums last two years pujols and Upton?

      Reply
    • Sideline Redwine

      12 months ago

      “Apart of” or “a part of”? completely different definitions.

      Reply
  5. bravesnation nc

    12 months ago

    Wow, We have too many corner outfielders but dude did good in a Braves uni.

    Reply
  6. Robrock30

    12 months ago

    I could see this move coming while watching yesterday’s Game with the solid play of Adell and Brandon Marsh. The chemistry with them is really strong.. Ward has also looked solid.

    Reply
  7. marinerfan

    12 months ago

    No doubt if his contract was half that (or less), they would have kept him, imho. The downside of these huge contracts.

    Reply
    • theo2016

      12 months ago

      What? They still pay him no matter what. This is them saying he is isn’t as good as their bench of’s at this point.

      Reply
    • Airo13

      12 months ago

      Ya, mlb contracts are guaranteed so nope

      Reply
    • alwaysgo4two

      12 months ago

      No….actually if he produced for the contract they’d keep him. They’re going to have to pay him either way. No one’s going to take him. He’s going to get the minimum. His choice where he goes…whoever’s interested.

      Reply
  8. DonOsbourne

    12 months ago

    Wow! The Angels are writing big checks to unload the dead weight. I hope they taught that skill to Billy Eppler before he left town. He’s going to need it in the near future.

    Reply
    • MrAngelFan

      12 months ago

      Yep, gotta get rid of the Dipoto and Eppler stink.

      Reply
  9. Yepp there it is

    12 months ago

    I think this is a mistake, the Upton brothers are always great in the final year of a contract. Sad to say!!

    Reply
    • bobtillman

      12 months ago

      With Justin, do you get BJ?

      Reply
      • Bart

        12 months ago

        You would need to get one to want to sign him.

        Reply
      • HBan22

        12 months ago

        Sadly, you only get a Melvin.

        Reply
  10. TrumpChop+Charles Barkley's Guarantee

    12 months ago

    It seems like every top player Angels get, they stink up the joint immediately after/get hurt.

    Reply
    • Yepp there it is

      12 months ago

      Must be the water.

      Reply
    • iverbure

      12 months ago

      Sounds like all free agents in mlb for decades now.

      Reply
  11. 619bird

    12 months ago

    He must have just bombed during the shortened ST. lol

    What dumpster fire contract will they eat and drop in 2023?

    Reply
    • baseballpun

      12 months ago

      Trout.

      (Jk)

      Reply
    • SoCalBrave

      12 months ago

      He was actually hitting really good in ST

      Reply
  12. The Baseball Fan (Doesn’t like the Cubs)

    12 months ago

    Woah. Bound to get a major league deal you would think…

    Reply
    • CKinSTL

      12 months ago

      Possible but Upton hasn’t had a good offensive season since 2018.

      Reply
      • roiste

        12 months ago

        Any new team would only need to pay him the league minimum. He can still hit lefties well, and there are a lot of teams who are dying for a righty platoon bat. Upton’s utility is limited, but it’s well worth his tiny cost to a new team

        Reply
        • CKinSTL

          12 months ago

          Roiste – you’re right, the dollars are insignificant. It really comes down to if a team has a roster spot available for him.

  13. bravesfan0618

    12 months ago

    Wow!!!

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  14. MikeKush20

    12 months ago

    Nice to see the Angels have the Balls to do this.
    Perry seems to be going in the right direction.
    Eat the cash out risk the outfield and lineup with Marsh and Adell.

    Reply
  15. theo2016

    12 months ago

    The surprise is that he’s actually hit so far this spring.

    Reply
  16. rememberthecoop

    12 months ago

    He will also “become” a free agent.

    Reply
  17. MikeKush20

    12 months ago

    This has to the be the lineup
    1. Stefanic 2nd Base
    2. Ohtani DH
    3. Trout CF
    4. Rendone 3rd Base
    5. Walsh 1st Base
    6. Adell LF
    7. Stasis/Kurt C
    8. Marsh RF
    9. Fletcher SS

    This lineup will be deep top to bottom.

    Reply
    • Gwynning

      12 months ago

      Freudian slip on Rendon?

      Reply
    • MrAngelFan

      12 months ago

      They had Trout hitting lead off. I think the Angels like the right/left/right/left. It may look more like this

      1. Trout CF
      2. Ohtani DH
      3. Rendon 3B
      4 Walsh 1B
      5 Adell RF
      6. Marsh LF
      7. Stassi/Suzuki C
      8. Duffy/Wade/Stefanic 2B
      9. Fletcher SS

      Ohtani has been leading off for the most part, so you can swap the top 2 around.

      Reply
      • MikeKush20

        12 months ago

        True. Personally tho I would like to see a lineup up built to help Trout with RBIs.

        Reply
      • Halo11Fan

        12 months ago

        Stefanic is not going to make this team. He’s not on the 40 man roster and the Angels don’t have space. Buttrey is going to make the team, that’s why he was placed on the 40 man roster, someone had to go.

        The Angels should never have brought in 2 utility infielder. We have far too many utility infielders.

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        • MikeKush20

          12 months ago

          Stefanic can get on Base. Great offense. He can be decent IMO at 2nd, but his bay will give the lineup a boost.

        • Tim Stewart

          12 months ago

          I think Buttrey was assigned to Salt Lake. I think he needed to be placed on the 40 man when he came off the restricted list.

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          I didn’t think they had to put him on the 40 man roster in order to send him to SLC. The restricted list is a little new to me.

    • Pkindaclub

      12 months ago

      Yet will still be looking up at Houston & Seattle

      Reply
      • MikeKush20

        12 months ago

        Doubt it.
        Angels will win the west this year.

        Reply
        • Benjamin560

          12 months ago

          Hahahaha!!!

      • hiflew

        12 months ago

        Don’t sleep on Texas. They finally decided to try again this year.

        Reply
        • MrAngelFan

          12 months ago

          With Correa leaving Houston, Texas has the best middle infield in the division.

          ……..but that’s about it.

    • 5toolMVP

      12 months ago

      Is Stefanic named as part of the 26-28 man roster? I think he’ll be in the minors.

      Reply
    • Lanidrac

      12 months ago

      Only if the lineup stopped after the 5th spot. This isn’t deep at all!

      Reply
  18. 13Morgs13

    12 months ago

    He stinks and has done nothing for 3+ years

    Reply
  19. Catch tha Taste

    12 months ago

    Like his brother BJ, a 5 tool star who got the cash and then under performed and faded out of the league

    Reply
    • geg42

      12 months ago

      He was actually one of the better first overall picks in recent memory. Braun has a higher bWAR but tainted by steroids. Tulo is arguably more valuable but aided by thin Denver air. Upton mashed as recently as 2018.

      Reply
      • seamaholic 2

        12 months ago

        Tulo wasn’t a first overall pick (he was 7th). The Rockies have never drafted higher than 3rd.

        Reply
    • whipmaster

      12 months ago

      He has a career OPS of .814 and has over 300 HRs and 1000 RBI and 4 All Star appearances. That is a very good 15 year career. It is only under performance if your expectations were unrealistic.

      Reply
  20. kellin

    12 months ago

    I am seriously shocked by this.

    Reply
  21. AMiCk ĐOGEron

    12 months ago

    This is the type of guy the Reds always go for. He’ll clear waivers and be able to sign anywhere for the league minimum. They don’t have a bonafide CF option outside of Senzel who gets hurt looking in the mirror. Not saying they should do it, just wouldn’t shock me at all.

    Reply
    • roiste

      12 months ago

      Upton is a candidate for the Reds, but he is not a centerfielder. He played one inning in CF last year, which was the first time since 2016

      Reply
  22. CursedRangers

    12 months ago

    If no one else signs him, he will have exactly 1,000 RBI’s over his MLB career.

    Reply
  23. Milwaukee-2208

    12 months ago

    Can he start opening day for the Mets?

    Reply
  24. DarkSide830

    12 months ago

    wow, really ripping the bandaid off

    Reply
    • HBan22

      12 months ago

      I think the Angels finally had enough of the Pujols/Upton era last season.

      Reply
  25. ❤️ MuteButton

    12 months ago

    Do the Angels lead major league baseball in bad contracts?

    Reply
    • Winslow Leach

      12 months ago

      Not any more

      Reply
    • Fred

      12 months ago

      Historically, yes

      Reply
    • MrAngelFan

      12 months ago

      Nope, We got the best team friendly contract. Shohei $5.5M/year.

      Reply
      • ❤️ MuteButton

        12 months ago

        That’s kind of like saying I am a serial rapist but I do donate to charity

        Reply
        • 5toolMVP

          12 months ago

          Sounds like a confession! Hahaha!!

        • MrAngelFan

          12 months ago

          @Mute Ya, I am not sure what that is like but I’ll take your word for it.

  26. phenomenalajs

    12 months ago

    That’s a huge contract for the Angels to eat. They couldn’t find a bad contract to swap him for?

    Reply
    • MikeKush20

      12 months ago

      And pack a prospect.
      No thanks

      Reply
  27. Winslow Leach

    12 months ago

    After hitting 2 HR’s the other day 1 being a Grand Slam.

    Reply
  28. J.H.

    12 months ago

    Minasian not afraid to move on from past mistakes. Good for him. This means they feel pretty good about Marsh and Adell, which is exciting for Angel fans. I also wonder if this is partly motivated by allowing Upton to find a starting job somewhere else. Here’s another thought; Conforto? Unlikely, but who knows!?

    Reply
    • justinkm19

      12 months ago

      Went to school with Zac Minasian

      Reply
  29. JustPete

    12 months ago

    All I can add is that, on a personal level, we go to ST every year in Tempe and J Upp has always been a gentleman to us, and the fans. He takes time to speak with the fans, signs when asked, accommodates selfies, laughs and is genuine. Thanks J Up for your kindness.

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  30. Fan1234556545

    12 months ago

    I can see him signing with the braves…

    Reply
  31. jdgoat

    12 months ago

    At least his performance this spring should net him a job somewhere. A team like Baltimore could probably use him at league minimum with the hopes of flipping him at the deadline.

    Reply
  32. Lloyd Emerson

    12 months ago

    It’s a shame that the Chicago Cubs can’t suck it up and just DFA Jason Heyward.

    Reply
    • drasco036

      12 months ago

      The sad reality is that with as awful as Heyward has been, the Cubs still don’t have anyone forcing him out of the line up unless the Cubs want to ride Rivas in LF and Happ in center.
      Fact is, the Cubs “near” ML outfielders have all been awful. Davis looked good outside of striking out nearly half his plate appearances Diechmann looks lost, Happ’s been terrible and so has Ortega.

      Reply
  33. carlote

    12 months ago

    Welcome to Miami.. Bienvenido a Miami, said Will Smith before the slap

    Reply
  34. orange2001

    12 months ago

    He was having a strong spring and appeared to finally be healthy. I thought he would have a nice rebound season going into free agency. I know they have a logjam in the outfield with Trout, Adell, and Marsh. Plus Taylor Ward really needs to play. I’m not shocked he was DFA’d and I’m sure they tried to trade him offering to cover most of his salary but there must not have been any takers. I think he still has a little left in the tank and worth taking a flier, especially in the NL with the universal DH.

    Reply
  35. Angels & NL West

    12 months ago

    Perry doesn’t mess around. I continue to believe we will look back in a few years and say Perry is a top flight GM. He’s the first GM to have Artie’s confidence.

    Reply
    • HarryO

      12 months ago

      I think it’s easier to dispose of other peoples mistakes, especially when that 28 million isn’t coming from your own pocket. The true test of a GM is how he/she handles their own mistakes. Time will tell.

      Reply
      • angels1961

        12 months ago

        Jose Quitana,, Bundy

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    • HBan22

      12 months ago

      I’ve been very impressed with Minasian so far. He’s really turned this team around in a short amount of time, and his focus on improving the pitching has been refreshing – I’m sure especially for Angels fans. He quietly turned a very poor bullpen into a very solid one in the span of about a year, brought in a potential TOR SP finally in Syndergaard, and drafted a couple very high upside arms last year. All things that this club really needed. I’m rooting for him to continue to succeed, as watching Ohtani and Trout on a winning team would be great for the game.

      Reply
    • winonesooner

      12 months ago

      lol!

      Reply
  36. iwamtmy2dollars

    12 months ago

    Tigers might be a good fit. Just lost Greene for two months.

    Reply
  37. Dorothy_Mantooth

    12 months ago

    It’s obvious that no one is going to claim him off waivers unless a team is willing to pay $3M-$5M of the $28M owed to him by the Angels. If that is the case, he will be claimed and traded to that team by Anaheim for cash considerations. The Angels would welcome the chance to recoup a few million on his contract.

    My guess is that he clears waivers and then he has the choice of which team he’d like to play for. While I’d love to see him end up in Boston, I see him either staying on the west coast (SF, SD, LAD) or going to a warm weather team that has a chance to make the playoffs (TB, Mia, etc). I don’t see him ending up in Cleveland even if Cleveland promises him a starting role in their OF. It will be interesting to see where he lands.

    Reply
    • HBan22

      12 months ago

      What role would you see him filling in Boston? Possible platoon partner with JBJ in RF, at least to start the season? I wonder who the worse defensive OFer is now between him and Martinez. Wouldn’t ideally want either of them starting too many games in RF. His splits vs lefties do make him intriguing though, as JBJ and Verdugo both struggle against LHP.

      Reply
    • Geno55

      12 months ago

      Jup Arizona Diamondbacks San Diego padres maybe even Los Angeles Dodgers

      Reply
      • angels1961

        12 months ago

        He will stay in So Cal

        Reply
  38. bobtillman

    12 months ago

    Would be the best defensive OF in Philadelphia.

    Reply
    • Misfit0620

      12 months ago

      Trying not to win a world series

      Reply
  39. Tacoshells

    12 months ago

    What the hell are the angels doing ?!?!?

    Reply
    • chalk73

      12 months ago

      Making room for the kids to play.

      Reply
    • HBan22

      12 months ago

      Getting better.

      Reply
  40. cookmeister 2

    12 months ago

    Probably in the minority, but I don’t like this. Upton obviously isn’t worth the money, but you’re paying him that money no matter what.
    Upton and Trout are buddies. From everything I’ve seen and heard, he was great in the clubhouse.
    I hope this doesn’t throw a wrench in chemistry

    Reply
    • Halo11Fan

      12 months ago

      I’m with you Cook. Happy he’s not blocking anyone, but concerned this will come back to bite the Angels.

      Reply
    • dirkg

      12 months ago

      And you’re right Cook, J-Up and Trout are super close. That was the first thing I thought of when I read this. A huge assumption here is that they let Trout know ahead of time. I hope that’s the case.

      Reply
  41. Misfit0620

    12 months ago

    Eh just for the giggles.. Dodgers anyone?

    Reply
  42. orange2001

    12 months ago

    Upton was leading the Angels in HRs and RBIs this spring. 3 HR, 11 RBI, .333 / .474 / .933

    Reply
    • 5toolMVP

      12 months ago

      It’s spring. Not the same as 162 game season.

      Reply
      • chalk73

        12 months ago

        I wish it was, the Angels have the best record this spring… we are the best team in baseball… lol

        Reply
  43. angels fan for life

    12 months ago

    They have 10 trade him still

    Reply
    • Tim Stewart

      12 months ago

      I think a lot of teams would be interested in him. Unfortunately, he has a no trade clause in his contract.

      Reply
      • Cosmo2

        12 months ago

        I don’t see anyone trading for him. Certainly not “a lot” of teams. He’s a league average hitting (maybe) DH.

        Reply
        • Tim Stewart

          12 months ago

          He would have came with the Angels covering his salary. Hit lefties solid last year. If healthy potentially could see a little rebound.

  44. bhoops

    12 months ago

    As soon as he clears waivers, Upton has Mets written all over him.

    Reply
  45. MikeKush20

    12 months ago

    Justin Updone.

    Reply
  46. prov356

    12 months ago

    THANK YOU GOD!!!

    Reply
    • prov356

      12 months ago

      All kidding aside, I’ve been saying for years that Upton is a mediocre hitter and lazy on defense and running the bases. He’s been below mediocre with the Angels. Not to mention his injury record with us. My respect for Minasian just went up. He is the right GM for us.

      I know, Halo11, Minasian isn’t perfect, but he’s doing the right moves this off season.

      Reply
      • Halo11Fan

        12 months ago

        Upton’s been terrible with the Angels.

        With the 6 utility infielders on the 40 roster, there wasn’t a lot of room. This was caused because of horrible lineup construction. Do we really need Wade AND Duffy?

        Ward, Adell and Marsh have all been impressive this Spring. But the Angels need another outfielder a lot more than they need a utility infielder. I just hope this doesn’t bite them in the butt.

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        • HBan22

          12 months ago

          Taylor Ward looks like he could be a very good 4th outfielder/utility player. He may have not even reached his potential yet offensively either, look at his minor league stats. He’s underrated. Tyler Wade is also a solid defensive OFer and has looked decent this spring.

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          I’m not worried about the talent of those four, I’m worried about health. I feel a lot better with Ward being the 5th outfielder than the clowns who played the last year.

  47. DoritosLocosTaco

    12 months ago

    I think this is a good move. I like upton but he’s not a situational hitter (strikes out with guys on third and less than two outs, grounds into double plays, etc). Still waiting for a SS. Fletcher is not the answer.

    Reply
  48. jb226

    12 months ago

    Gutsy move. Hopefully the Cubs follow suit with Heyward.

    Reply
  49. HalosHeavenJJ

    12 months ago

    I figured he’d make the opening day 28 man roster but be on the chopping block when rosters went back down to 26.

    He’s always been a streaky hitter. The hot streaks have gotten fewer abs further between.

    That said, he showed up to camp trim, ready to roll, and willing to take whatever role management has for him. I respect that.

    Reply
  50. Halo11Fan

    12 months ago

    I was worried Upton was going to take away ABs from Adell.

    With Trout and Adell frequently hurt, I’m shocked the Angels did this. Expecting the Angels outfield to be heathy all year is a foolish mistake, that said, Ward looks ready.

    But considering how bad the Angels outfield was last year, I’m concerned this move will hurt.

    Reply
    • winonesooner

      12 months ago

      what free agents are ever going to sign with the angels? pujols, simmons, iglesias and now upton!

      Reply
      • Halo11Fan

        12 months ago

        If a player is afraid, he’s going to get DFA’d, I don’t want him signing with the Angels.

        Reply
      • ldoggnation

        12 months ago

        Iglesias (the good one) did.

        Reply
  51. popitforpoppa

    12 months ago

    Dodgers

    Reply
  52. brucenewton

    12 months ago

    Obviously their intention all along, he’s got a 1.400 OPS this spring.

    Reply
    • Halo11Fan

      12 months ago

      They ran out of space on the 40 man roster. Ward looks very good. Adell and Marsh look very good. This is more about that trio than Upton.

      Reply
      • winonesooner

        12 months ago

        angels have so many multi-infield-positional n0-good hitters by the bucket. why carry them all?

        Reply
        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          win_one_soon. I’m right there with you.

        • HBan22

          12 months ago

          I think they are throwing mud at the wall to see if any of it will stick. They know they have a hole at SS and I think they brought in all of these guys to compete for the spot this spring, in the hope that at least one of them would step up and claim the job. Just how it seems to me.

        • winonesooner

          12 months ago

          as i wrote on the last article the dud we got from the yanks was billed as a defense only ss. play him there and keep fletch at 2b.

        • winonesooner

          12 months ago

          that’s my old mlb tag.

  53. duhawk83

    12 months ago

    Now if the Cubs would cut Heyward….

    Reply
  54. urnuts

    12 months ago

    I’m fine with dumping him but why not for a bucket of balls and eat $25 million. Use the $3 million later at the deadline. Tax space .

    Reply
    • Cosmo2

      12 months ago

      Because no one is doing that trade with the Angels.

      Reply
    • urnuts

      12 months ago

      Now that they DFA him. Someone needing a fourth OFer/DH would pay him 3 million. SD or Det.

      Reply
      • 5toolMVP

        12 months ago

        Or less…What’s the veteran minimum?

        Reply
      • Cosmo2

        12 months ago

        But why would anyone have at him that when they can get him for the league minimum? Do you really expect a bidding war? Who pays 3 million for meh bat left fielder to be their 4th OFr?

        Reply
    • Tim Stewart

      12 months ago

      He has a no trade clause.

      Reply
      • urnuts

        12 months ago

        Now that makes since . The other replies did not read my post, trade before DFA. If he has a no trade clause , hands are tied.

        Reply
  55. JerryBird

    12 months ago

    The burden to flank all-world superstar Mike Trout in the outfield lies with Mike Trout himself. He needs to get past his nagging injuries. He stays on the DL longer each season as time goes by. If he can stay healthy, then let’s see what the younger players will do.
    Too bad for Upton, I guess he just ran out of gas.

    Reply
    • $21002046

      12 months ago

      For what he’s getting paid forever regardless, Trout needs to play the hell thru pulls snd strains like players have for 150 years.
      Maybe show him an inspirational film about Mantle, Buckner or Koufax

      Reply
      • hossmandu

        12 months ago

        $21002046 – You have no idea what you’re talking about. A grade II calf strain can take anywhere from 8 weeks to up to 6 months to completely heal, depending on the location and severity of the tear. The only calf injury worse that a grade II tear is complete rupture.

        Oh, and here are all the details of his “pulls and strains”. Please feel free to point out all of these that he should have played through.

        Mike Trout IL recent history:
        2021 – 139 days, Grade II calf strain
        2020 – 0 days
        2019 – 0 days
        2018 – 15 days Wrist injury from HBP
        2017 – 47 days Torn Ligament in thumb from slide
        2016 – 0 days
        2015 – 0 days

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        • $21002046

          12 months ago

          Yet in 2019 he missed a month’s worth of games

        • hossmandu

          12 months ago

          Yeah, because he had surgery on his foot at the end of a season where the Angels were 20 games under 500. I guess he should have played through that too????

        • Halo11Fan

          12 months ago

          Last year’s injury to Trout was a big deal, I’m not downplaying that.

          As you pointed out, the high-level view of Trout’s injuries looks troubling, but if you examine why he missed time, it doesn’t look nearly as troubling.

          The foot tumor is not coming back, he now protects him thumb and that injury is likely not coming back. His best friend and brother-in-law can only commit suicide once.

          Last year’s injury is/was a big deal, but the others, not so much.

  56. wifflemeister

    12 months ago

    So the Angels just blow off $28 million? Are you telling me you couldn’t get Something/Anything for him?
    All you Angels fans will pay a portion of your ticket prices this year to bail out this bad decision.
    Someone in Angels management needs one of those “Come to Jesus” meetings I think

    Reply
    • 5toolMVP

      12 months ago

      It’s hilarious that you think a DFA of a $28mm player somehow effects ticket prices for this year. It’s $28mm with Upton and $28mm without him, ticket prices are not fluctuating $0.01 on this move.

      Reply
    • 5toolMVP

      12 months ago

      They probably tried to get something/anything and no one was interested even if they paid $25m of the contract. He will sign elsewhere of vets minimum $$. It’s fine… moving on to Adell and Marsh in the OF corners the next 5-10years.

      Reply
      • Tim Stewart

        12 months ago

        I think there are teams that would give something. The big problem is getting past his no trade clause.

        Reply
  57. johndietz

    12 months ago

    Love that the Angels are going with Adell, Marsh, Ward and Rojas. Those kids have nothing left to prove at AAA. I’ll bet the trade Upton and send cash and Barria (who’s out of options) then announce an extension for Ohtani

    Reply
  58. CNichols

    12 months ago

    What are the luxury tax implications of a team trading for him and agreeing to pay a small amount of the money owed?

    For example, Upton to SD with SD agreeing to pay $3M of his contract.

    The Angels are going to have to eat all of that $28M otherwise if he’s released so I could see them trying to recoup at least something. Does the acquiring team have to wear that entire $28M for luxury tax purposes or does he only count as what they are paying him?

    Reply
    • winonesooner

      12 months ago

      most likely, he will be cleared into a free agency and signed for minimum. angels will pay everything but the minimum.

      Reply
      • Wisdom shared

        12 months ago

        Per MLB, the Angels designated Upton for assignment. They owe him 28M and he will continue to be paid by the Angels with the rest of the team each cycle. Upton will pass through waivers if the Angels don’t trade him within seven days and if a team claims him, they sign Upton for minimum salary, with the angels on the hook for the remaining 27.6 Million. Upton can be claimed by any team and if he passes through waivers, he can be sent to the minors or elect free agency. His 28M salary in 2022 is guaranteed by the Angels and if two teams want to sign Upton for league minimum, Upton has the choice to select which team he will play for per the new CBA agreement in 2022. There are 29 teams in the majors that will see the AL have first dibs on Upton for league minimum and if all the teams pass, the NL team can then claim him for league minimum.

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        • CNichols

          12 months ago

          That’s technically not how it works because once he clears waivers he’ll be released and granted free agency, so he can go wherever he wants at that point and there’s no priority on signing him. That priority only comes into play on waiver claims, but no one is going to claim him because they’d get stuck with the $28M owed on his deal. Ultimately that means unless he’s acquired via trade he’ll be a FA and can choose whatever team he wants to sign for.

          I’m talking about the luxury tax implications of a trade, which would be separate than him clearing waivers because he wouldn’t be signing as a free agent. The Angels are on the hook for the $28M, but another team could agree to pay a small portion of that to guarantee that they’re the team that gets him.

        • Gwynning

          12 months ago

          Very sagacious post, CN. The trouble in this case was a full NTC held by J-Up. There is no trade to be made here; there are obtrusive and insurmountable obstacles in the way. He will clear Waivers and be a FA and be able to sign with any interested party (for the aforementioned Vet minimum). The Halos will be on the hook for approximately $27.3-ish in the long run.

  59. Old York

    12 months ago

    Time to unload that other injury-prone big contract in Trout.

    Reply
  60. Ron Tingley

    12 months ago

    That extension was a terrible deal from day one. The trade to get him though, not bad. I thought Grayson Long had a nice chance of becoming a back end starter, drafted by the Angels. At a time when the Angels had not developed pitchers in a few years, I believe Long soon was hurt and retired after the following year.

    Reply
  61. TommyHawkBraves

    12 months ago

    Upton will have his choice of a lot of teams willing to take him for league minimum.

    The question is what does he value more? Winning or playing time, because he may not get both.

    Reply
  62. SportsFan0000

    12 months ago

    Upton could be a great OF platoon option for the Padres at major league minimum after he is released by the Angels.
    It could allow the Padres to keep top prospects Hassell, Abrams, Campusano, Paddock and others as their present and future core.

    Reply
  63. DiehardFriarsFanFromThe619

    12 months ago

    Friar Faithful Reunion?

    Reply
  64. Armaments216

    12 months ago

    So assuming he clears waivers the Angels will pay the $28M minus the salary paid by the new team, presumably $0.7M.

    In that case maybe some team would be willing to offer a trade now, where the Angels throw in prospects in exchange for offloading a chunk of Upton’s salary.

    Reply
  65. DiehardFriarsFanFromThe619

    12 months ago

    We need more outfielders!

    Reply
  66. a761506

    12 months ago

    First of all, who was dumb enough to give him a contract paying him $28 million this season, regardless of when it was signed???

    Secondly, he’s so washed, why would a team even burn a roster spot on him? I don’t think he’s even a viable option as a PH.

    There are many other Upton’s making far too many millions occupying valuable roster spaces who should be cut, the top of that list is Miguel Cabrera.

    Reply
  67. angels1961

    12 months ago

    Can halos still trade him?

    Reply
    • Rsox

      12 months ago

      They could but no one is going to give up anything for him and take on his salary when he can be had for league minimum shortly

      Reply
  68. johnnyangel

    12 months ago

    It is now clear that Maddon is trying to impose old-school, Scioscia-style baseball on this organization. And Minasian is cooperating.

    A set rotation, a closer, deep bullpen, defense, baserunning, platoon matchups, positional versatility, and just enough pop to keep the offense humming.

    The pieces aren’t all there yet, but one can see where this is headed.

    Reply
  69. FireJames

    12 months ago

    Could see him on Giants as a righty platoon in left

    Reply
  70. dirkg

    12 months ago

    It all depends how this was communicated. I’m hoping the timing of this was for Justin to get grabbed by a contender. He’ll get picked up.

    Reply
  71. SportsFan0000

    12 months ago

    Padres and Mets are discussing a deal to send young starter Paddock east along with Eric Hosmer for OF Dominic Smith

    Reply
  72. Braveslifer

    12 months ago

    Mets fans be like, “can he pitch?”

    Reply
  73. Lanidrac

    12 months ago

    Why DFA him? You have to pay him either way, and isn’t he still a decent bench player at the very least?

    Reply
    • Halo11Fan

      12 months ago

      Why DFA?” Not enough room on the 26 man roster or 40 man roster.

      I guess it’s more important to have 7 utility infielders on the 40 man roster. Wade, Duffy, Mayfield, Rojas, Davis, Rengifo and Velazquez.

      Last year Perry’s bullpen moves were baffling, this year his accumulation of utility infielders is equally baffling.

      Heck, on more than half the teams, Fletcher would be a utility infielder.

      Reply
      • Lanidrac

        12 months ago

        They start the season with 28 roster spots, and Upton is still better than any of their other backup outfielders (aside from when Walsh plays there).

        Reply
        • Tim Stewart

          12 months ago

          I think Upton has some value but I think Ward can be very good and play all 3 OF positions and can catch if needed. The utility players can play the OF. This gives them another utility roster spot or pitcher.

        • MrAngelFan

          12 months ago

          I think there are a lot of reasons the decided to DFA.

          1. He has been injured the past 3 years and has put up below average numbers. He had a good spring but the past years of data to go on.

          2. The emergence of Tyler Ward. At this stage, Tyler Ward is a better option at this point. Wade can play OF as well.

          3. They like the energy of the young guns, Marsh and Adell. They are nothing if not exciting. They get the team and the crowd amped, whether its making a great defensive play, legging out a single, or running for a triple. When was the last time you were excited about Upton? Also, Adell and Marsh are good friends. They didn’t want to split them up. Having one start on the Angels and one starting for the Bees didn;t seem right.. The like the flexibility of Ward, Wade, Adell, and Marsh, which Upton did not offer.

          4. There is no place to put him. Is there anywhere on the field that you can put put him and say Upton makes us better?. Upton is best suited to be a DH, but Ohtani is going to be the DH. His defense has been progressively worse each year and it’s not going to get better. this year. They tried him at first, but apparently they didn’t like what they saw there either. The only time I saw him at first in spring training, he committed a huge blunder by pulling his foot off the bag way too early.

          He will catch on with some team that he can potentially help out. He just wasn’t doing that for this team.

  74. yamsi1912

    12 months ago

    He will be a dodger.

    Reply
  75. Rsox

    12 months ago

    This is probably a move Bloom should make. Upton at league minimum to at least platoon with JBJ. Worst case scenario you release him if he’s bad. Best case he’s able to at least hit LH pitching and put up decent numbers. There is literally nothing to lose

    Reply
    • JoeBrady

      12 months ago

      You would have to be comfortable with Verdugo switching back and forth from LF to RF every time they face a lefty.

      Reply
  76. Amanda

    12 months ago

    the red sox have dalbec at first base, they arent gonna sign an aging 34 yr old whos ALWAYS hurt to play with a young new exciting player thats already here. They are not ‘ in the mix’ , atleast not as a first baseman.

    Reply
    • Rsox

      12 months ago

      I wasn’t suggesting he play 1B.

      Reply
    • JoeBrady

      12 months ago

      Amanda, it would probably pay to do a little research. Upton has never played a single inning at 1st.

      Reply
  77. Fregosi

    12 months ago

    The move you had to make Perry. Going to be fun watching this team.

    Reply
  78. AnglsFan

    12 months ago

    I’m totally bummed about this. Upton is finally healthy, he’s in a walk year and I think he’s gonna tear it up. Choosing Marsh over Upton when Marsh has an option left!? No way. I like Marsh and think he’ll be good at some point but he’s not even close to Upton at the plate. Marsh better have a breakout year at the plate or this goes down as one of the dumbest decisions of all time. Dang. Someone’s gonna get Upton at league minimum and be so stoked!

    I’m absolutely going to be comparing Marsh’s and Upton’s stats at the end of the season. We still have to pay Upton. Dumb dumb dumb.

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    • JoeBrady

      12 months ago

      It makes no sense to me at all. Right now, Marsh is a strikeout machine. 91 Ks in 236 ABs is 231 in 600 ABs. He has some talent, but this is like Adell when they first promoted him. IMHO, they are simply burning service time.

      Reply
      • Angels & NL West

        12 months ago

        Marsh struck out alot last year, but shouldn’t you use PAs, not ABs? Also, in year two, couldn’t you expect to see some improvement? It’s also worth noting that Upton struck out 107 times in 362 PAs (318 ABs) last year.

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        • MrAngelFan

          12 months ago

          Yes. Of course, you use PA when calculating SO%. JoeBrady has proven time and time again he is not savvy with stats.

  79. GinaNCRaysFan

    12 months ago

    We all know of course that Spring Training stats don’t mean anything, the only thing we can really tell from spring stats is who is healthy and who is not. Upton’s spring performance is nice, but doesn’t mean the last few years of poor production should be ignored.

    The Angels have to pay him regardless, but they don’t have to play him. Thinking they should keep him because he’s making a lot of money would be handicapping the team with a sunk cost. They obviously feel there are players that fit the team better than he does, so eating the money is the right move. The best move would have been to not give him such a contract, but that ship has sailed. Keeping a poor option because you’ve already put money into it is the very definition of a sunk cost, and it’s not a good use of resources.

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  80. sonorawind

    12 months ago

    And yet another huge contract that never panned out for the Angels. GMJ, Wells, Hamilton, Pujols, Mo Vaughn. Has ANY organization in baseball ever gotten so little for so much money from free agents?

    Reply
    • Halo11Fan

      12 months ago

      Wells wasn’t a free agent. Vaughn led to Appier and without Appiers first 5 month of 2002, the Angels don’t win the wild card or the World Series.

      And of course Upton was a trade. So if those are your best examples, I’d say yes. Two MVPs. A Cy Young Winner. A player who might make the hall of fame as an Angel. A player who has made the Hall of Fame as an Angel.

      We could have done a lot worse.

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