TODAY: The Sox announced that Keuchel has been placed on unconditional release waivers.
MAY 28: The White Sox announced that veteran left-hander Dallas Keuchel has been designated for assignment. Infielder Danny Mendick was called up from Triple-A in the corresponding move.
The move all but certainly ends Keuchel’s stint on the South Side after 51 games and 257 1/3 innings since the start of the 2020 season. It doesn’t seem likely that another team would claim Keuchel off waivers, since such a move would put that new team on the hook for the roughly $14.1MM Keuchel is still owed for the remainder of the 2022 season. Should Keuchel clear waivers and then be released, the White Sox would pay the remainder of that salary, and a new team who signed Keuchel could only owe the lefty the prorated MLB minimum salary.
Keuchel signed a three-year, $55.5MM free agent deal with Chicago in the 2019-20 offseason, one of several notable moves made that winter to signal that the Sox were now aiming to win following a rebuilding phase. The initial returns on the signing were great, as Keuchel posted a 1.99 ERA over 63 1/3 innings during the shortened 2020 season and finished fifth in AL Cy Young Award voting.
Only some flashes of that good form continued into 2021, however, as Keuchel finished with a 5.28 ERA over 162 largely inconsistent innings with Chicago last year. The decline continued over Keuchel’s first eight starts of 2022, as he has a 7.88 ERA and as many walks (20) as strikeouts over 32 innings.
Never a big strikeout pitcher even during his prime years with the Astros, there were plenty of questions about how well Keuchel’s low-velocity, grounder-heavy approach would hold up as he got older. Between these concerns and a qualifying offer, Keuchel’s previous free agent bid in the 2018-19 offseason resulted in the southpaw having to wait until June (after the draft) to sign a prorated one-year deal with the Braves. Keuchel pitched well enough over his 112 2/3 innings with Atlanta to then earn a longer-term commitment from the Sox that offseason, with Keuchel also no longer eligible for the QO.
Batters have a .364 BABIP against Keuchel this year, so there is some amount of misfortune baked into his recent results. However, hitters are also making some serious contact (as per Keuchel’s barrels and barrel-rate metrics) against the left-hander’s offerings, and his sudden lack of control also isn’t helping his run-prevention efforts. Keuchel’s 50.8% grounder rate is also the lowest of his career, though still an above-average mark league-wide.
Even with these struggles, it stands to reason that Keuchel’s track record will earn him some attention from one of the many teams looking for rotation help. A strong defensive team would be a particularly good fit for a groundball pitcher like Keuchel — speculatively speaking, a Cardinals team that has lost Steven Matz, Jordan Hicks, and Jack Flaherty to the injured list could have interest in Keuchel’s services.
The White Sox have been no strangers to pitching injuries themselves this season, and their rotation picture wasn’t helped by Keuchel’s lack of success, even though he remained healthy. With Keuchel now in DFA limbo, the Sox have Lucas Giolito, Dylan Cease, Michael Kopech, and veteran Johnny Cueto making up the rotation, and Lance Lynn is beginning a rehab assignment in his recovery from knee surgery. Vince Velasquez could continue to make starts until Lynn is ready, but with off-days coming up on May 30, June 6, and June 16, the Sox will get some flexibility in figuring out their upcoming slate of pitchers.
In the bigger picture, it would certainly seem like starting pitching will be a target area for Chicago heading into the trade deadline. Giolito, Kopech, and Cease have all been very good, Cueto has yet to allow a run over 12 innings of work, and the White Sox certainly hope that Lynn can return to his usual form once his rehab assignment is over. However, depth is certainly still a concern, as Kopech’s innings will be managed and the Sox can’t know what to really expect from Cueto over the course of a full season.
As well as Keuchel performed in 2020, the signing still has to be considered a misfire for GM Rick Hahn’s front office. Keuchel was owed $18MM in salary this season, as well as a $1.5MM buyout of a $20MM club option for the 2023 season. That option was set to vest if Keuchel pitched at least 160 innings this season, but that threshold no longer seems a possibility, even if it never seemed particularly likely that the White Sox would let that option vest.
Finally!
I suspect Dallas might be making other things higher priorities like his love life. His best days as a pitcher might be behind him and he has already “cashed in”.
Him and Nash, what a deserving pair. I bet their conversations are insightful, and now have the time to create beautiful memories. Which one might be higher maintenance?
I really hope one day you find someone who slightly likes you so you don’t have to be so angry and jealous at other people as much as you are all the time, especially against Kelly Nash. Its very unhealthy and sad how you bring her up at every chance you get.
“Keuchel posted a 1.99 ERA over 63 1/3 innings during the shortened 2020 season and finished fifth in AL Cy Young Award voting”
Yet another example of pretending 2020 was a real season. It was not, it was a farce.
Keuchel started only 11 games, averaged less than 6 innings per game, and faced only the Twins/Royals/Brewers/Tigers/Cardinals/Reds/Cubs/Pirates/Indians.
Excuse me for not being impressed.
Fever: But at the same time, as a ‘so called’ Red Sox fan, you were outraged that the Red Sox tanked the shortened season so they could land a high draft pick. If it was a joke season why were you so mad back then? Your opinion changes like the weather.
Now change to your other 10 accounts so you can create soft comments that are impressed with yourself, and don’t forget to upvote 10 times.
Time for Dumpster Diving Ricky to go dumpster diving.
He lives in his grandma’s basement and only pops out of his hole to fuel his creepy obessesion with Jason Benetti and Steve Stone and Jerry Reinsdorf, and apparently the WAGs of players never commenting on anything else. So no. Highly doubtful Dogtroll has a significant other, much less solid adult relationships.
Was 2014 15 and 17 fake seasons also, basing things on keuchels stats.
It was a partial season. Small sample size. Im not sure who is arguing that point.
How did that comment get 10 upvotes?
Rebuilding club signs muti year free agent and it doesn’t work out typical. One year only non playoff teams. Stick to the formula
I’ll bet someone will take a flyer on this gas can.
Giant – I dunno, his style of pitching just doesn’t appeal to most teams anymore.
I think there’s a good chance of Keuchel getting Porcelloed.
Porcelloed or Portilloed?
Needs to go back to Strom. See him signing in Arizona.
He will sign with the Mets
Keuchel to the Yankees!!! Cashman couldn’t pass this one up. Here’s a guy sure to blow up a win without relying on the bullpen.
Yikes. I expected him to age well with his collection of slow speed junk balls. He’s only 34.
His success was getting hitters to swing at pitches out of the zone. Guys who age well tend to be guys who throw a lot of hard to hit strikes. Dallas was never that guy. His stuff got worse. Guys stopped chasing.
Wonder if Jamie Moyer could work with him.
Woah. I don’t know why I’m surprised
Was practically a guaranteed loss for the Sox whenever he was pitching.
I think they cut him and he goes to Milwaukee
Yanks will claim him. Cash wants to shave all the beards off in MLB.
And then release him the next day.
That would be funny.
Is that part of his job? You think they’d hire a barber…
Repelling down skyscrapers and cutting off the beards of Odor and now maybe Kuechel? Ninja cash always gets his man.
This is definitely a David Stearns bargain bin signing if there ever was one or twenty.
He met the innings threshold of his $20m option in 2021 by exceeding 160 ip. Not only has been lit up this year, if he throws 160 again that option is triggered.
More time to spend with Kelly Nash, which is sort of a nice consolation prize. Although someone else may be able to scoop him up and get something like league average innings out of him, which is pretty valuable with all the pitching injuries so far.
If he could produce league average innings the White Sox wouldn’t have DFA’d him.
I meant to say “someone else may be able to fix him and get something like league average”… my bad
The thing is, Keuchel really isn’t the type to change what he’s doing/throwing on the mound. He’s stubborn and is still very much overconfident in his abilities. I’d honestly be shocked if he produces an ERA below 5.00 from this point on.
In his prime, he was excellent because he could paint the corners and make batters chase bad pitches out of the zone. All he does now is hang everything over the plate and gets way too reliant on a single pitch (usually his dreadfully slow two-seam “fastball” that clocks in around 86-88 mph *on a good day*).
If I were Keuchel, I’d try to sign with St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Milwaukee, or NY Mets.
And her brother Steve. They can opine on how it all went so wrong for the Nets.
Im sure he will find a new club and he will be much better the remainder of the season. His issues might be mechanical.
Or his issues might be suckage.
He had that one good outing against the Yankees two weeks ago and it seemed like he was turning it around.
He’s a lefty with success not too long ago. He’ll get another chance. Wouldn’t even rule out him being sort of good again with the right team. Crafty lefties are cut from a different cloth.
As he was a member of the rotation, who replaces him?
They’ll either slot Velasquez in again, or they’ll call up Davis Martin for another start to see if he can’t repeat his quality outing against the Royals in his MLB debut. Eventually Lynn if everything works out as planned.
Davis Martin. Two fifths of the Rat Pack. Not too shabby.
Johnny Cueto. Once Lynn comes back, the rotation will most likely be Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech, Cueto. In the meantime, Velazquez, ReyLo, and a couple of the AAA guys could do spot starts as needed. Assuming Lynn comes back full strength, this should be a very strong rotation for the later part of the season.
With all the extra weight he carries, I’m not surprised Lynn has knee issues. Hopefully he’s been working on his overall fitness along with rehabbing his knee. If not, it’s bound to happen again.
Hope Reyno gets a shot. Another valuable arm that Ethan has helped turn around.
Oh man is that a duct tape and baling wire, throw ‘em out there and pray, kind of rotation … good, but you better hope this is your lucky year if you expect them to make it through without major injuries.
Trade?
No buyers at that price. Anyone interested will simply wait for him to clear waivers and sign him at minimum.
Trade to replace him on Sox…
As mentioned above, no one will trade for him. You would have to give up prospects to move him.
Luckily, the Sox are getting Lance Lynn back soon, so he’ll be taking the spot vacated by Keuchel. Although, Johnny Cueto is the real reason why it was an easy decision to cut bait now.
Not to mention, Davis Martin looked great (albeit against the Royals) in his lone spot start in the second game of a double-header about a week or so back. Also have Vince Velasquez if things get really desperate.
There’s always the O’s!
Keuchel made his money. If this is it, he can be proud of a solid MLB career.
Trade him to cardinals with cash for Paul Dejong. The cash is the difference in salaries. White Sox are going to pay him anyway, may as well take a chance to see if DeJong can recover. Cardinals stay cash neutral but turn the page on DeJong. Need pitching help and Keuchal can throw strikes and eat innings on a team with elite defence. If not, cut him. Maybe a lottery ticket prospect way down the line to cardinals
Makes no sense. Cards could just have Keuchel for league min and then trade fees Kong while kicking in some cash. They’d have the same result but save a lot more money. Keychel has zero trade value and won’t get claimed.
Damn autocorrect!
*De Jong
*Keuchel
You didn’t read the proposal. The White Sox pay the difference in salary to keep the deal cash neutral. So the Cardinals would never have to add money as a sweetener to dump DeJong. However, someone else mentioned Keuchel has another expensive year kick in if he hits 160 innings and the Cards organization isn’t one that manipulates playing time to get out of deals. They let Andrew Miller reach a threshold that triggered another expensive year. So as tempting as it may be to try to dump DeJong here, I’d guess unlikely.
mrperkins: I think there is a rule somewhere preventing this. Something like “Max percentage of a contract a team can eat”. Otherwise, teams would do this all the time, when they have a player they want to be rid of. I can’t recall any other examples of teams eating entire contracts, in order to move a player. But, someone else probably knows better, but it would make sense.
But the Cards could just sign him once he’s released and also keep DeJong. They have no reason to give up on DeJong yet. That’s why they optioned him to AAA while they still could.
Cardinals lifelong fan here. Moz isn’t trading Paula D for that rag arm, get real. Dejong has been brutal at the bat since they brought in the new hitting coach but he does everything else well if not very well. Keuchel can be had for free. I really doubt Cards are worried about signing him before some other team “Calls Dibs” either. Not to say St. Louis won’t sign him because he is definitely their kind of pitcher( best days far behind + minimum wage). I just seriously doubt they will trade a useful player or anyone for that matter for Dallas Keuchel.
“Batters have a .364 BABIP against Keuchel this year, so there is some amount of misfortune baked into his recent results. However, hitters are also making some serious contact (as per Keuchel’s barrels and barrel-rate metrics) against the left-hander’s offerings, and his sudden lack of control also isn’t helping his run-prevention efforts. Keuchel’s 50.8% grounder rate is also the lowest of his career, though still an above-average mark league-wide.”
I HATE that everyone attributes to BABIP to luck. Luck is ONE (small) piece pf the pie for BABIP. Your very next sentence mentions that players are hitting things he throws very hard. When stuff is getting creamed, it’s not just bad luck.
I agree. BABIP should be looked in accordance to LD% and Hard Contact%. Lots of LDs and Hard Contact means high BABIPs.
It’s so crazy to me. Even on the hitters side, it’s always just attributed to luck. You’re gonna tell me that if Byron Buxton and Albert Pujols hit the same ball to the third baseman, Byron beats it out and Pujols is still 30 feet away, that’s luck? Buxton’s BABIP will be higher, so it must be.
True. A guy like Tim Anderson SHOULD have a .350 BABIP every year due to speed and LD%.
It’s only used that way for hitters when they significantly exceed their usual level. A hitter will generally maintain a personal level of BABIP (relative to how they develop and then age), so when a guy with a career .300 BABIP suddenly has a mark of .350 over the first two months of a season, he’s probably hitting into some good luck, although if he’s young enough, it could also be that he’s having a breakout season.
Babip predates the advanced metrics. It was created to, in part , measure luck. So that is unlikely to go away soon.
The issue is that, as you said, it was created “in part” but everyone uses it as if that’s all it does is measure luck. Luck, very likely, is a part of it. But a much, much, much smaller part than most writers seem to acknowledge.
Yet this specific writer IS using it only for partly bad luck in combination with his other issues.
While you’re basically correct, the writer’s point is that the BABIP is too high for even hard contact to fully explain. Therefore, Keuchel’s ridiculously high BABIP is a combination of both some bad luck and being legitimately bad.
I can understand your issue with BABIP and luck. But to put BABIP in another context, batters facing Keuchel this year are hitting like Rogers Hornsby (career .365 BABIP).
Are you sure you know what BABiP means?
This has Yankees written all over it… we love picking people up off scrap heap. Cortez carpenter.. he would be great to have as a spot starter or long guy
Hey, I’m to the point now that if they pick him up, I have full confidence in them. They’ve worked wonders with this rotation, so I don’t see why they couldn’t do the same with Keuchel, if they saw what they liked in him.
Dallas could be throwing .150ERA ball again with Blake whispering sweet baseball nothings in his ear.
The Yankees have one of the better better pro scouting departments in the game, dating back to when they pulled Bartolo Colon out of the weeds. That’s where Billy Eppler made a name for himself and led to his promotion to AGM. That said, they have to believe the player can be fixed and there has to be an opening. No idea what they think regarding the former, but there’s no opening for the latter. Starting rotation is excellent and set. Knock on wood, healthy all season. Bullpen has been wiped out over the last 10 days, but the replacements look quite strong. I have my quibbles with Cashman, but I never question him on bullpen construction. He manufactures arms out of thin air. He’s had a MLB bullpen in the waiting in AAA, which they’re now tapping with the recent rash of injuries.
I don’t see Keuchel fitting in, unless he wants to go to Scranton. Some other team will offer a MLB job first.
RobM: Maybe, just maybe this gives the Yankees the idea that it is okay to cut ties with Hicks. I know….laughable. But really, he’s pretty bad. I didn’t advocate to cut Gallo, Torres, or even Gary, ever. But, Hicks – yes.
I think the Tigers would love to pay him the league minimum, considering their rotation is absolutely decimated.
Nope. Even with the injuries, the Tigers rotation has been fine. To add Kuechel to the 40 would mean cutting a prospect more valuable than him.
Now trade Andrew Vaughn for Montas
Ummm, no
Ummmmm… No. Vaughn is literally one of the only players actually hitting his weight on this team. Their offense has been virtually nonexistent. So unless Montas is suddenly a competent hitter, I wouldn’t trade for him. Their pitching has been far less of an issue (omitting 2 of 3 games from their most recent series). Montas is a luxury they just can’t afford at the moment unfortunately.
Why would anyone in their right mind do that?
No one in their right mind would do it, but fan boys are not in their right mind to begin with.
Responsible for 5 of the 7 runs in the last game, but sure, let’s get him while the Sox still have Lynn coming back
Somewhat surprised the White Sox DFA’d him now. Thought they may have placed him on the IL with “tired arm” or some sort of faux injury to stash him while they await Lynn to return. He’s been a far cry from a competent rotation spot mostly. Can’t say it’s undeserved. But Kuechel was far from the only problem with this iteration of the White Sox. He only pitched once every five games. Their offense hasn’t shown up for nearly any. They have a myriad of issues. That being said, it is better to give those innings to virtually anyone else at this point. Maybe Martin can repeat his performance against the Royals a few more times? Give Lambert another chance? Whatever the case is, it wasn’t working with Kuechel anymore.
Yeah they should have tried Keuchel at C. He could probably catch as good as Grandal.
Dogbone, I known you are doing your typical stand up trolling (and it’s not funny), but this is one instance where you are correct.
The fact that Grandal has the highest contract in team history and Sox fans are not just irate over it is hard to fathom. When pinning down reasons the Sox won’t win the World Series, Grandal is firmly planted at the top of the list if he is in the lineup during the playoffs.
Imagine the vitriol if a team like the Cubs signed, say, Jason Heyward to a stupid contract…..that ownership would get whacked in the head on a daily basis.
And, yes, when it comes to stupid contracts I am comparing Grandal to Heyward.
Over 729 pas Grandal has 5.2 fWAR. He’s certainly been better than Heyward. Things might not be great with him going forward, but he has produced already for the Sox.
As a cubs’ fan that’s had to watch Heyward, the Grandal contract is not even close both because of production and years.
He would have to agree to the phantom injury/IL stint/MiLB rehab assignment. Maybe he wasn’t going to do that and figured he would just take his chance on catching on somewhere else rather than be an insurance policy for the White Sox.
@MikeS2
Valid point. I doubt his ego would allow for that route. Especially knowing he could easily catch on with another MLB team.
Yeah, getting rid of Keuchel is not going to fix everything that ails this Sox club (especially their lack of defensive acumen), but I guess they need a scapegoat as well to make the front office feel better. Doing this still does not fix the lack of heart issue this team has. Its a club with a supposed ‘win now’ attitude and a HoF manager but its flirting with .500 record. I think this club needs someone (new manager, front office guy, whoever) to go into the clubhouse and knock these guys down a few pegs and make them remember that they have won nothing yet. Nothing is owed to them (like some players on the roster seem to think), and they need to start fighting for what they want, and if they do not want to win, the can go lose somewhere else. But LaRussa is not that guy, he is just there for the check at this point.
Mets depth maybe
Once he clears waivers, Keuchel will have his choice of at least 5 teams if not a lot more to where he ends up signing. I’m guessing he’ll want to be part of a potential playoff team vs. signing with Detroit or Baltimore. Plenty of teams will be willing to take a ~ $500K gamble on a former Cy Young pitcher who could possibly give them some quality innings whether out of the bullpen or as a starter/piggy back pitcher with an opener. If he continues to fail, it’s not an expensive risk to take for any playoff-worthy team.
If he’d been effective in the first inning, I’d say he might be useful out of the bullpen. But batters have torched him to the tune of a .324 BA and 1.042 OPS in the first inning. No, thank you.
The 5.6 BB9 and 2.156 WHIP are cause for alarm. Take warning. He just might be done-zo.
His velo in combination with his pitch mix is real bad too. 87 MPH cutters aren’t gonna get it done.
Cardinals won’t be able to help themselves after he clears.
He will become a cy young winner with Tampa.
Well that and have a competent infield defense behind him.
Tigers have big league openings
He’ll go to a contender, if he goes anywhere.
Not necessarily. Go to a bad team, try to put together 50 or so good innings in a low pressure environment, and get traded at the deadline.
Great idea! Can you give me some examples where this has happened? Waived, signed, traded to a contender?
billy mcckinney. Waived by the blue jays, signed by the brewers, traded to the mets who were leading the divison at the time and due to roster crunch was traded dodgers
roster crunches happen all the time so i would say pretty regularly especially for relievers.
A non-contender would be more likely to give him a chance, as they have nothing to lose if he continues to stink it up. Most contenders would be better off using a AAA call-up in their rotations while trying to win.
Philly could use some IP
And if they sign kuechel, Philly could use some IP
Mets should take a look
How about a reunion with Strom in Arizona?
What if, by some miracle, somebody picks him up and he pitches enough innings to trigger the option. Are the Sox on the hook for that, too?
No if he’s picked up they pick up his contract. If he’s signed as a FA he gets league minimum Sox pay this year salary and they are done with him. Good Luck Dallas I think Cardinals would be a good fit.
As long as he’s cheap he’s has the attention of billionaire Bill DeWallet and his yes man,John Mozeliak. Doubt if Keuchel will help sell any tickets though. You never know.
So you’re saying that any new team would be on the hook for the option, no matter what the circumstances are?
I probably didn’t phrase my original question properly. If he passes through waivers, gets signed as a free agent, and gets his 160 innings this season, who pays the option?
I don’t think the player option will happen because he’s not on pace, but even if he was, he would be signed to a new minimum salary contract. The Sox will effectively squash his option when they end up releasing him next week.
So how he’s cleared waivers. I know it’s extremely unlikely, but what if he did wind up pitching enough with, say, the Nationals or Royals and pitched 130 innings for them? Would the Sox be on the hook for the option still?
Savannah Bananas are calling !
If Chris Fetterer (Tigers pitching coach) can get the pitchers he’s got to the 16th best ERA in MLB, I bet he may be able to fix Dallas. Although I believe he’ll go to a contender who will try first.
Dallas Keuchel is not fixable. However, I would absolutely love it if the AL Central Detroit Tigers took a shot at getting him right.
Unless Chris has a time machine, I have to agree with Barry.
As a Sox fan, me too.
Not gonna lie. I been waiting for this day since this guy got here. I never wanted to sign this guy. Johnny Cueto has been great. Lance Lynn will be back soon. All 5 guys in the rotation are either currently a #1 starter, gonna be a #1 starter, or was previously a #1 starter. Let’s get healthy and get ready to start smashing. Bullish on the White Sox!
Well Keuchel was once a #1
Thought DK would be an expensive, but serviceable #4 caliber starter overall for his contract. Will eat crow along with Hahn on this one.
As LeBron says, it’s about damn time.
Ground ball pitcher? Yeah, good luck with that nonsense.
In a few years, people will look back at Keuchel the same way they do with Steve Stone or Mark Davis. How in the world did that guy win a Cy Young award?
That being said, his grounder heavy arsenal would probably work well with the Rockies on a minimum deal. At the very least, he could eat some innings and not be completely embarassing.
Keuchel inducing ground balls is a false narrative. He’s nothing but a bp machine at this point.
Mark Davis is an intersting one. Nobody today would ever have voted Davis over Hershiser or Maddux that year, but the 90’s and early 2000’s were obsessed with shutdown relievers. A few years after Davis won his CYA, Eckersley not only won the CYA, but also the AL MVP. In 2003, Eric Gange finsihed 4th in CY Young voting, then win it a year later. So wild how quickly the attitude toward relievers winning the big awards has changed. We went from three relievers winning the Cy Young award in within 15 years of each other. In the last 10 years, we watched two relievers break the single-season ERA record (Fernando Rodney in 2012 and Zack Brittion in 2016), and neither finished top 3 in Cy Young voting, or top 10 in MVP voting.
He was near the top in fWAR and bWAR for AL pitchers that year
Personally, I would have voted for Tim Belcher over Hershiser or Maddux or Davis. The man had EIGHT shutouts that year, twice as many as second place Hershiser. And he had a better ERA than Maddux. And e even had a save. Utterly ridiculous that he finished 6th in the voting.
I think Gagne had a goooood CY case (yet a biased dodger) with that save streak
Now they just need to DFA La Russa.
That’s not the 3-letter acronym beginning with D one typically associates with La Russa.
I believe that is a 4 letter acronym if you count the “D”.
I think he was referring to DUI.
I would like to see them trade Moncada. He’s really a poor hitter always has an ache or an injury and he’s already got his money. I sure hope Burger gets hot and Moncada can sit for a couple weeks.
In what world do you think Burger is a better hitter than Moncada?
Never said that pay attention. Moncada is a sissy he’s always got an injury. Burger while no where near as talented plays way harder and plays every day. Hope he has a good couple weeks in him is what I said.
Not a bad night for Burger it’s only one game but he’s hungrey
A lot of money for the White Sox to eat but his last start against Boston was pretty bad. That said, i do expect someone will take a chance with only the prorated league minimum at stake. Mets, Cardinals, Twins, Padres, maybe even the Dodgers all come to mind as possible destinations
I’ll go out on a limb and speak for the Pads… no thanks.
they did sign Robinson Cano seems like Keuchel would be right up their alley.
When they lost their rotation to the IL post-ASB last year, perhaps they’d have considered Keuchel. Arrieta and Vince Velazquez were option 1 and 2 at the time. This year, fortunately,
that sort of desperate need doesn’t exist. Knock on wood. Nobody is getting bounced off the 40 to accommodate Keuchel.
Whomp whomp
BABIP lol Keuchel stinks, there isn’t any “bad luck” involved. God, this sabr stuff is painfully stupid.
Detroit will sign him !!!
The money will be spent. Best money Kenhahn spent this season. Harrison walking on eggshells.
The Mets could use an arm like his
The Mets should see what the White Sox would want for him,, he could hopefully help till Scherzer and deGrom comes back than put him in the bullpen.
There is almost a zero percent chance of the Mets or any other team working out a trade for Keuchel. No one is taking on the remainder of his contract. The only way a trade would ever happen is if someone could dump a worse (more expensive) contract on CHI, (think Robinson Cano) but the White Sox owner is too cheap to consider that. I guess another team could offer a low level minor league lottery ticket for him too, but that would require CHI to pick up his fully salary for the rest of this season along with his $1.5M buyout for next season. If money is an issue in CHI, then they could offer a top 10 prospect to another team if they are willing to take on Kuechel’s full salary. With that said, it sure feels like there’s a 99% chance that he clears waivers after which he can sign with whichever team he chooses too.
Come to Arizona. Strom might work a miracle with him.
That’s exactly where he’ll go. He won his cy young award with the help of Strommy.
And there was much rejoicing.
Yaaaayyyyy!
Paging Al Avila
Addition by subtraction. Team immediately gets better because they font need to pretend he is a MLB pitcher any longer
Wow! Thank you! He sucks. No more $20 million dollar per year losers, which has been the White Sox’ MO over the past decade. Remember Shields? Should I go on. For the money, we could have just kept Rodon. He was done in 2020. Moving on, FINALLY!
5th in cy young voting is done … damn you are tough. I cant imagine a lot of starting pitchers had less than 2 era. Short season yes but how many starters even that year had that?
2021 is a different story. I would say he was done then.
Sadly, that’s all this franchise can get in those rare occasions when they spend big. Overpriced guys no one else wants for the money. This is how Reinsdorf punishes fans for wanting premium free agents. He signs the most mediocre dudes available. This is precisely why I believe ownership doesn’t give a damn about winning championships.
Prediction: Detroit picks him up and he throws a shutout against Chicago second week of June.
Maybe it won’t happen…but it would sure be entertaining.
I’d love to see Keuchel in a Detoilet uniform. Make it happen immediately.
Sox made a bad decision signing him 3 years ago……. $55 million? OUCH! Hope they can trade him for a 2nd base candidate. What they have now isn’t working.
Why would anyone trade a useful player for Keuchel? He’s facing retirement unless he can regain done semblance of a heart, velocity and/or control. He’s grade C dogmeat.
He pitched pretty well with Atlanta leading up to that contract. There were indicators of decline that were ignored, at the time the Sox needed rotation help in the worst way because their young hitting core was ready to go. Mistake? Yes. Forseeable? In many ways yes but you can’t fault them for taking a chance. Dylan Cease worked out so you take the good with the bad.
Yankees should sign him to get rid of another beard.
He’ll look like an 11 year old girl, with tatoos.
When the White Sox rotation is finally healthy…Michael Kopech will have supplanted Dallas in this rotation, a sizable upgrade!
Good luck Dallas. Maybe a fresh start will make a difference.
It was a joke they gave him that contract. I should be the GM of the white Sox not that clown
You should be manager while you are at it. I’ll take any half functioning adult over TLR.
Tampa Bay should kick the tires if he clears waivers. The Rays have a thing for broken players …
He’s mid-80s Tommy John now
Does anyone have a value for all of the “dead” contracts (not playing for the team paying) in MLB? I bet the over/under is 1/4 billion…
Very important to know. Who has the best beard in MLB now?
Gotta be Blackmon
Justin Turner has a solid beard
st. louis doesn’t need another washed up pitcher
I just wonder how much of Keuchel’s issues were also due to a defense behind him that could not play defense.
Keuchel was no longer the player he was about 5 years ago (like most vets the Sox org picks up), but having guys behind him who cannot make fundamental defensive plays behind does not help and does not instill confidence in the staff where if something does get hit, a guy behind them will make a play (especially the ones they should make). That also leads to pitchers feel they have to make a perfect pitch, and when this staff is already not as good as the org wants you to think that just adds to the issues. True to the Sox Orgs ‘modus operandi’ they are not fixing what really needs to be fixed. This club needs a heart transplant and someone not afraid to tell these guys they suck and need to get better if they really want to win it all. I think that LaRussa is phoning it in at this point, and the Sox need to say that he needs to step down due to health issues and then find a manager worth a damn.
You’re not wrong about LaRussa. However, this roster is very flawed and incomplete. You can’t possibly to expect a different outcome with any other manager in baseball, past or present. GM Rick Hahn has a LOT of work ahead of him building on the core of this team to be the contender they want, and fans expect. Sadly, we Sox fans have seen this before. There will be no more building the roster because the owner is a clown.
NONE of Keuchel’s issues were due to defense. He is a ground ball pitcher who EVERYBODY smashes with elevation. The defense never had a chance to help him. Some of the balls hit off of Keuchel should have had a stewardess and meal service.
They are called flight attendants now.
Who cares?
No more Locomotive Beard? Dang. Looked good against the Yanks a few wks ago. Pitchers are funny like that. Someone will pick him up
Love to see Seattle take a flier on him the big park would do him well plus he knows the astros
Mets?
Right behind him is Patrick Corbin.
If this is the end, I’d like to thank him for his performances against the Yankees, back when the NYY were lefty-centric. There were 3 years where they couldn’t touch him/
Let the scramble for Dallas begin. Depth move possible for a number of teams. See if there is anything left in the tank. Major league minimum at risk. Let the rumors begin.
This year’s Jake Arietta.
The White Sox have the foundation to win a World Series, but they don’t seem to want to spend some money to win a World Series. The offseason free agent signs and trades left a ton to be desired.
I’ve been a White Sox 40+ years.
They have enough pitching for a deep playoff run, and that’s about it. They’re way behind other playoff bound teams in regards to hitting and defense. I based this observation on their performance against quality teams during the regular season and (dismal) playoff appearances the last few years. They are definitely NOT a World Series team.
*White Sox fan…
Tuesday vs Toronto No Moncada No Robert? Sorry if Moncada can’t play send him to rehab he’s never ready. And why no Robert? He’s available he needs to play. Stick a fork in Sox and LaRussa you Ain’t that smart To y!
Dallas would do fine working with Kyle Snyder.