The Yankees are faced with plenty of questions heading into the off-season, following their ALCS sweep at the hands of the Astros. The team has already said they’re planning to keep Aaron Boone as manager next season, but the makeup of the roster Boone oversees could see some significant change. The free agency of outfielder superstar Aaron Judge will justifiably dominate the headlines over the coming months, but there’s a plenty of other storylines in the Bronx that’ll be interesting to follow.
The Yankees have eleven pending free agents, although it seems likely they’ll pick up Luis Severino’s $15MM team option and drop that number to ten. Among them are Jameson Taillon and Andrew Benintendi. Both have indicated they’re open to a return to the Yankees, per Bryan Hoch of MLB.com. That they’ve said that is not a great surprise, as most pending free agents say they’re open or willing to discussing a return to their previous team, but it is interesting to consider in the case of Benintendi and Taillon as there’s a feasible pathway to the Yankees re-signing both.
Taillon was acquired from the Pirates prior to the 2021 season for minor leaguers Roansy Contreras, Maikol Escotto, Miguel Yajure and Canaan Smith-Njigba. Taillon is no stranger to injuries, he’s had Tommy John surgery twice as well as a hernia surgery back in 2015. He’s also a cancer survivor, having undergone testicular cancer surgery in 2017. His second Tommy John caused him to miss the 2020 season, and the Yankees managed his workload accordingly in 2021, so while he made 29 starts he only threw 144 1/3 innings. He ramped up in 2022 though, and tossed 177 1/3 innings of 3.91 ERA ball. Taillon’s never been a big strikeout pitcher, and he punched out roughly a fifth of batters this season, but he displayed an excellent control, walking batters just 4.4% of the time. He is a little susceptible to the long ball, but on the whole Taillon is a reliable mid-rotation arm that could help a lot of teams moving forward.
One of those teams could be the Yankees. Gerrit Cole and Nestor Cortes will be back at the top of the rotation, while a returning Luis Severino should round out the first three spots. After that, there’s a few question marks. Domingo German threw 72 1/3 innings of 3.61 ERA ball, although his FIP sat at 4.44 and his fastball velocity declined slightly in 2022. Mid-season trade acquisition from Oakland Frankie Montas struggled in eight starts before going on the IL for the rest of the regular season, he returned in the playoffs but only threw one inning. Montas has a sound track record as a mid-rotation arm, but pitched to a 6.35 ERA in New York. He experienced a sharp decline in strikeouts, just 17.8% with the Yankees down 8% from the first half of the season in Oakland, while his walk rate jumped slightly. The Yankees could conceivably turn to both German and Montas to round out their rotation but given the question marks over both, the reliability of Taillon to solidify the backend of the rotation could hold plenty of appeal to Brian Cashman’s front office.
Benintendi was brought over from the Royals at the deadline, with the Yankees sending minor leaguers Chandler Champlain, T.J. Sikkema and Beck Way the other way. The 28-year-old was in the conversation for the batting title in Kansas City, slashing .320/387/.398. He got off to a slow start (two hits in his first 25 ABs) but found his groove eventually and hit .303 for the rest of the campaign. He missed almost all of September, however, with a broken hamate bone and failed to return for the playoffs. The Yankees acquired Benintendi as a lefty-hitting contact bat to balance out their slugger-heavy lineup, as well as offer strong defense in left. When fit, he provided exactly that and should have no shortage of multi-year offers in free agency.
Of course, the top priority in the outfield for the Yankees is Aaron Judge, but the team would do well to bring back Benintendi in left. The team used ten different players in left in 2022, with none playing in more than 55 games there. Aaron Hicks got the bulk of the playing time, but put up underwhelming numbers and at 33 is showing signs of decline. The team turned to rookie Oswaldo Cabrera down the stretch, and got solid results despite the fact he’d come up through the minor leagues as an infielder. He hit .247/.312/.429 in 44 games and impressed defensively. Depending on other moves, the team may prefer to keep Cabrera as a utility-man on the bench and bring back Benintendi as the team’s everyday left-fielder.
Meanwhile, Jim Bowden of The Athletic reports that the Yankees are indicating they won’t be shopping for a top shortstop this winter. That’s no surprise, as the club opted to trade for Isiah Kiner-Falefa instead of go after Carlos Correa and Corey Seager last winter. While Kiner-Falefa drew the ire of the fanbase, that move was made with a view to eventually having one of the Yankees’ top prospects Oswald Peraza or Anthony Volpe take over long-term. Peraza impressed in a handful of appearances in September, and made the playoff roster, and it seems likely the Yankees’ 2023 opening day shortstop will come from that trio.
Uhhh, perhaps the best response to the Yankees play & management…..
m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2lBS7yKxX8
Also, subtitle of this article may as well read, “Yankees unlikely to embrace any change…again”
This is the best!
39-year-old Johnny Bench! Hahaha!
That is accurate, Clipper.
Clip, that is hilarious. And so spot on. As far as your other points above and below, I agree with them all unfortunately. of course, I would like to see judge, return, but not if it breaks the bank, and the Yankees are handcuffed for years as a result, which, of course we know they would use as an excuse not to sign any premium free agents. Not that they will. Anyway,cashman is always looking to cut corners.
Benintendi would be a perfect fit for the outfield, as with Taillon as a number five pitcher. And you can’t have enough pitching.
I don’t expect much from Frankie Montas, going forward, but I’m willing to be proven wrong. And you are correct, Steinbrenner does not care about winning the World Series, he only cares about making money, which he is making tons of it. So why would he change anything.
And he doesn’t give a rats ass about the fans, and what they think about cashman and boone. He doesn’t care of the World Series is reached, or if we win, as long as he keeps making money.
And unless we had a perfect roster, with absolutely no holes, and perfect luck, in which nothing can go wrong, I would not trust Boone with making roster decisions or bullpen decisions during a postseason, without perfect conditions. Throughout, he would find a way to lose it for us every year as he has done so far, but yet he still here with the vote of confidence from the ownership. which says it all.
And Cashman, who gets plenty of money, still does not know how to create a roster that’s a winning one. And you’re right, he’s always looking to “win“ trades, instead of just making trades that improve the team. Isn’t that his job after all. There was no reason to bring donaldson in here, he should’ve known he was over the hill, and for that money, we could’ve had a premium shortstop instead of the inept IKF, and then no hit. Wonder Donaldson. I think we can expect next year the year after, and so forth to be more of the same of this year. Get to the postseason, somehow, but get eliminated before we read the World Series unless some miracle happens. And I would not expect a parting of the Red Sea for this team anytime soon.
Hey Doc, good to see you on here. I appreciate the response, sir! Haven’t seen you here in a bit, but glad you’re back on here.
Same here Clip. I got locked out of the site for a while, and could not find my password. Ha ha. but always good to read your astute observations on the Yankees. Or anything else for that matter.
What’s the difference between winning a trade and trading for a player that helps the team win
Winning a trade is what he tried to do with the Sanchez/Urshela deal. Or, what he did with Stanton, instead of acquiring Harper. Sometimes, cutting a player loose is better for the team than getting someone in return, as was the case with Donaldson/IKF. Also, it’s why he wouldn’t trade Torres for someone we needed, like Castillo. He has to win the trade, not address the team’s need. It’s why they won’t cut Hicks loose, or take less by trading him or Donaldson.
He treats each trade individually instead of incorporating the overall picture and how said trade will mesh with the roster. That’s why he’s 50/50 on trades….. and that’s why the roster has been so one dimensional for so long.
Clip it’s obvious to Ozzy Yankee fans what the difference is. But you explained it quite well.
Peraza and Cabrera have a bright future with them Yankees
With Aaron Judge & his upcoming $500 million contract I don’t blame them.
Honestly, I still say, if he’s too much, pass on him. Pay him reasonably, but to gorge the budget on him is not the wisest approach.
He’s not worth anywhere close to what Soto would be, and Soto is not worth between $400-500MM, imho.
If Judge were 26 or 27 then I’d go all in but he’s not. I look forward to him on the IL for half of 2023 for the Giants–and I say this as a Yankee fan.
Darth…is that what you come up with? If he was 26 or 27 you’d go all in for a 2023 injured season? Cmon man, Judge is a beast. I’ll admit that chasing 61 probably took a toll but that dude carried the Yankees to the postseason. The problem I saw was the rest of the team not doing anything at all. We will welcome Judge on the Giants, along with all the Bombs he’s going to hit.
You can have him and when he sits on the IL for the last fours years of the contract the Giants give him don’t compain.
Darth…so you hypothetically want to Judge the Judge before he even plays another single season? What he’s done for your Yankees has far outweighed his time on the IL. Stop being disgruntled
You can never make a Yankee fan happy.
If Judge were injury prone like Trout, then I’d be concerned.
Clipper after watching Carlos Pena on MLB Network a couple of days ago I no longer want Judge at all. They were talking about Judge’s lack of production in the playoffs and Pena said it was because Judge is so process oriented it didn’t allow for the aggressive attitude it takes to succeed in the playoffs. I wouldn’t have payed too much attention to that except I remember Judge recently saying more home runs are thrown than hit.
All of that is very concerning to me and I think that money could be better allocated.
Yeah, I completely understand that, Joe. I think he’s important to the team/fans. But, the Yankees postseason approach is horrible. Strikeout after strikeout, year after year.
It makes sense though. Process during the season is what keeps players consistent. But, this team is in trouble. And, if Judge leaves, they have holes they can’t fill because Hal won’t spend to overcome them. Most of all, Cashman has to prioritize what’s best for the team rather than trying to win individual trades – that means trading Torres, dumping or paying down Hicks, Donaldson, and possibly Montas and then trading them.
To move on without Judge is impossible with that dead weight on our roster.
I get what you’re saying Clip. This team needs a lot of work and I don’t think they have the ownership or FO to really fix it.
Of course I also worry that fans at YS could drive away potential good FAs by their more recent actions like booing Judge. Players have been talking about how bad its been and I can’t blame someone for not wanting to deal with it.
Yeah, that story originated with Andy Martino. He tends to write hyperbolically……
While there may be some truth to it, if they pay and win, nobody will care. The players will want to be there. But, like you said, FO may not be capable of creating that winning environment.
I didn’t realize that’s where the story started. I feel a bit better now. Thanks.
Disagree, Montas when healthy is a #2 and can beat the Astros. He proved that in Oakland!
Yeah, that’s a good point, Slider. I’d have to see what he does with the Yankees when healthy and reassess.
Every great hitter knows home runs are thrown and not hit.
I’m not saying go all in on Judge but the profession “process” hitters have great careers. Guys who try to hit home runs (Javy Baez) age like crap.
And look, I like Carlos Peña but he definitely isn’t the type of hitter I would take advice from.
Wow he just hit 62 hrs for you and your worried he doesn’t have the temperament to hit.
Mets go and look at his post season numbers. And I’m not just talking about this year.
Man, imagine if they had signed Harper instead of trading for Stanton though?
That thought has crossed my mind more than once. And I admit to not wanting him when he was a FA.
Yeah, I always thought his bat would be a good fit, but I honestly don’t think many wanted him, so that was natural.
But, man, he would be so much better for this lineup than Stanton. And, I like Stanton. He usually performs well in the postseason. But, Harper would’ve been better to have as a younger, LH power option.
No, no, and no. Montas is simply Sonny Gray 2.0. Both pitchers were fantastic in the Grand Canyon that is the Coliseum but their home/road splits exposed them. This is why they both imploded after being traded to the Yankees.
If Cashman could be trusted to use the money that would be saved on Judge wisely to make the team better, I just might be able to agree it would be the right thing to do. Trouble is, that is a big IF and I don’t trust him to do the job right. He is like a master illusionist. The way the first half went last year, you would think the team was as solid as brick building, but when injuries happened, they were exposed and collapsed like a house of cards. He is one-dimensional in his thinking which is why they team only excels in ideal conditions. It is not built to weather even the slightest storms, let alone hurricane that is the post-season.
The Yankees just do not have the cut throat mentality (from leadership) that they had in the past under “the boss”.
Heads would be rolling if George Steinbrenner was still heading the Yankees organization. I think at this point, especially with Cashman, rightfully so. I just don’t feel Cashman can navigate the new CBA rules (since the last CBA). It may be steamed from Hank but Cash doesn’t have that all or nothing mentality. He’s nibbled, afraid to give up from the upper echelon of his farm but still appears to have been taken to task by Hoyer, granted jury is still out but Wesneski has made ML hitters look foolish so far and Alcantara looks like he could be a superstar in the making.
Idk that I’d put real stock in his postseason showing. It’s like throwing a 300 in bowling what he did this season, his adrenaline was so high with the home run ordeal. He had a drop off the second it was over.
I’ve thrown 300s, and I thrown 800s over 3 games several times, not a single one of my 800s was with a 300. It’s very hard to continue after you’ve done something that’s so heralded.
If they can’t take a little booing, for the multiple millions, they earn , then they could stay away from New York as far as I care. Good riddance. I doubt any players expect to be cheered if they fall on their face constantly in the postseason anyway.
Yes Clip. And I heard him on an interview for the first time on a podcast, afterwords, I lost all respect for him. He seem to have no objectivity, and clueless at the same time. He seemed to be quite out of touch, for a guy who is supposed to be a Yankees beat writer.
Judge in his career is a .211 hitter in post season. That is over nearly 200 AB’s and 6 seasons. Some guys rise and some don’t. Pass at his asking price.
I don’t know if you’re a professional bowler or not but being a pro, you’re expected to perform in the playoffs…
The only argument is that you have to get there and Judge undoubtedly helps you get there.
Exactly. He’s getting you there and regardless he’s a threat. You can’t tell me he’s an easy no stress out. Give me guys in my lineup that make the pitcher stressed.
The Padres got hosed on that deal by the Nationals.
5 top young young prospects/players + 1 veteran
for Soto and Bell who both struggled to stay above the mendoza line
in the 2nd half?!
Soto is over rated!
The Nats will plug a lot of holes with the 2 OFs 2INFs, 2 pitchers they received in that one sided deal.
Yeah, I realize they made the playoffs and the NLCS,’
But, if Soto and Bell had produced more then the Padres would be in
the World Series right now!
my apologies for the repeat posts. Don’t know how that happened. I only posted it 1X
It only shows repeat when you post. After the edit time runs, it shows in the Board as one post. It’s weird, but none of us see the multiple posts. It sure is annoying while posting for sure.
If Tatis didn’t screw the Padres over they may be in the World Series as well.
I don’t know if I would call Soto over rated any more than any other player. He didn’t have his best effort in San Diego but was effective and put on a solid showing in the NLCS. Soto, in New York, would have been a monster with their infamous right field. And imagine him in front of Judge… both fantastic on base machines.
On the flip side, if Preller was smart, he would look at deal either Machado or Soto this off-season but he isn’t. Machado, with another good season, is going to opt out and then the Padres are in trouble. They should deal him with the weak 3rd base market and swap tatis to third next season.
Right again. And someone said, we can lose without him just as easily as we’ve lost with him. And he has not exactly been very good in the postseason either. When it counts most.
Clip, I would rather have Soto, and hes nails in the postseason also. something judge has not been. The Yankees had a shot of him this past year, but of course they didn’t go for it. I guess they felt they had no need for him LOL , like they didn’t need Harper or Machado either in the past. truly absurd ,who could not use a young stud like that, who hits for average ,and power, is clutch,and hits in the post season to boot. He could carry this franchise for years to come. I would give just about anything for him, the whole minor-league system, if I had to.
But the Yankees, apparently, are still operating under the misguided notion, that some of the young over hyped prospects, coming up like Volpe, are going to render Soto superfluous.and they are going to be the next Jeters and bonds. I really hope so, but with their history of prospects that are busts, I wouldn’t count on it.
Doc: I agree wholeheartedly with you. Imagine Harper in this lineup? Or Soto? Both easily attainable by the Yankees. Instead, we are on the outside looking in…..for the foreseeable future.
I think in the boss’s day, the Yankees are not making plays for Montas and Benitendi, they are trading for Soto and Castillo.
Thats just my opinion and maybe I’m wrong but George was cut throat… the Yankees were the type of team that would trade for Benitendi but only to keep their rivals from getting him and he’d ride the bench most of the second half. Could you imagine the old Yankees saying Clemens cost too much… we are good with (insert middle of the rotation arm)?
8 years/ $350
Volpe will be their long-term SS. Book it.
That’s going out on a limb…Lol.
There’s no other real option on the roster anyways!
Oswald Peraza and Oswaldo Cabrera would both like a word with you nbresnak.
Coop, I will be surprised (pleasantly) if Volpe isn’t limited to second base in the Majors. But, I think 2B will be his future position.
I think the Yankees know that, which is why they refused to trade both Cabrera & Peraza.
Agreed 100%. If Volpe and Perazza could turn into a similar middle as Giminez and Rosario, it would be a great thing. Volpes arm and range make him a better 2b
Soto wants to play with the Yankees, let Judge go
I like those two players. They could be your double play combo for the next 6-10 years. Can Gleyber play 3B?! or maybe they trade him.?!
SportsFan: They trade Torres. He plays a good 2B, but his SS play was horrid and I assume 3B wouldn’t be any better. In fact, the DP combo of Torres/IKF is precisely what lost GM 4 of the ALCS for the Yankees.
Clip, I hope they finally trade Torres. We’ve waited for three or four years for him to finally arrive. And newsflash he hasn’t. He really isn’t very good. He’s OK. He’s not the all star that the Yankee sold him to be. I imagine he still has some value right now, so he should be traded now instead of waiting as Cashman tends to do ,until he has no value at all, as he did with Sanchez, Fraser, Voit,Andujar, at al.
Clip, Well, I hope they finally use them consistently, and we’re not subjected to any more of IKF. And at least we can finally find out what we have in Volpe and Peraza, if anything. They already let the championship window close by not acquiring a major league, shortstop, and third baseman, waiting for these guys, so that we could lose yet again to the Astros. Maybe it would’ve been different if we had a major league shortstop and third baseman this year, but that’s on Cashman. But despite that Cashman will return.
Coop – not sure. I am concerned with Volpe’s range and arm – based on all metrics scouts have reviewed. I can see Perazza as our short stop and Volpe as the 2b of the future. But I imagine one of them comes up as a trade candidate.
Peraza I think has better range and a stronger arm. I respectfully disagree. I think Volpe’s future is at second base.
None.
I think the Yanks will use them both next year, at SS and utility.
Nothing says long term like hitting.250 with .340 obp in the minors.
On the contrary, a consistent 90-100 point differential between obp and ba for a young kid coming up is an excellent sign, especially if there’s power along with it.
And to think boys, we could’ve had *home field advantage* with a WS GM 1 in the Bronx had this team been structured/managed correctly. Ugh –
Go Phillies!
Yes clip. I think we could say that about the last three or four years at least.
Volpe will be their long-term 2B. Book it.
Jim Bowden is a fantastic source of information, said no one.
Ok, sign Benintendie, let Peraza play shortstop. The rest of the infield and outfield are set IF you sign Judge.
Probably going to need a 1st baseman and a 3rd baseman along with a defensive catcher that can hit. LeMahieu seems to be oft injured and well past his peak and don’t overlook the hitless wonder called Donaldson.
Hard to find catchers that’s good defensive and can hit. But I like the defense first mindset.
He only have 1 year left on the contract. It got rid of Gary
DJ might end up the first basemen if they don’t get Rizzo back!
Well the Cashman contracts of CC, Tex, Moose, Mo, Tanaka, and Jeter (1st contract) all were good. This was all before opt-outs became a trend.
Agreed. Which is a common misconception in Yankee land, that’s cc was some sort of a God or something. He had a few good or great years in pinstripe it is true. but most of his time in pinstripes, he was mediocre or worse. He was hampered by alcoholism, which he admitted later and then, when he finally conquered it, he was in decline and was unable to adapt to a different pitching style, less reliant on the fastball. Eventually he did but then he was hampered by old age and injuries. Look at his record.
Well, people remember, is his awesome first year, and which he helped us to get to the World Series. But thereafter it was not very good. People forget that. But it goes to show what happens when you help. The Yankees win a World Series. Everything else is forgotten or forgiven.
Just roll with IKF again…
Joe and Clipper, I am 64 years old and I haven’t figured out how the Yankees got in this mess. Their long-term contracts never pay off. Their short-term contracts are opted out of and their prospects are either traded or don’t pan out.
The Front Office is in shambles.
Yeah, that’s an accurate summary of the Cashman-led Yanks, Rick. Their recommitment to Boone & Cash show Hal’s perfect complacency with a playoff team (that is raking in profits, btw).
I agree with Rick assessment.
Hal is making a profit with the Yankees and unfortunately for Yankees fans, that’s all he cares about. He is without a doubt NOT George Steinbrenner! Someone who wants to WIN at all costs!!!
Rick Pernell, I have to disagree about the Yanks’ prospects. Cabrera looked decent. Volpe, with a 60 FV, and Peraza, Vargas, Medina, and Dominguez, all with a 50 FV, have a chance to be productive guys. Their farm is ranked 12th best in MLB. It’s too soon to assume that their prospects won’t pan out. I’d bet at least some of them of them are productive.
Let Judge walk.
Re-sign Benintendi and Rizzo, sign DeGrom, Nimmo, and Wilson Contreras
CF Nimmo
RF Bader
LF Benintendi
DH Stanton
1B Rizzo
2B Torres
C Contreras
3B Donaldson
SS Peraza
Bench
Cabrera
Trevino
Hicks
Gonzalez
IKF
ROTATION
Cole
DeGrom
Cortes
Severino
German
That’s really interesting. But, I’m not so sure on Contreras as he’s very much like Sanchez (granted he is more consistent). Also, where do we make up for Judge’s production. We would need more than Nimmo, ie, T. Turner.
I honestly don’t know. Perhaps trading for Murphy and signingTurner? I have to evaluate this team because they’re in such a tough position moving forward, particularly if Judge leaves.
Clip with the money saved, you could replace, or have a close approximation of replacing judges contributions. And maybe even get some players, though who are not spectacular, could contribute more in the postseason? The latter would be not difficult to do, since judge has been a no-show against the Astros, despite his big talk and bravado.
Although I think it would take a shrewder negotiator or talent evaluator than cashman has proven to be. If you remember, when Cano left, the Yankees tried to replace his production by acquiring several lesser players, who added together they thought, would replace his production, but it ended up being disastrous. That’s how we ended up with Ellsberry, an over the hill, Beltran,and a few other inadequate players.
Although I was in favor of letting Cano go, for his huge, asking price, at the time,in retrospect, we would’ve been better off, keeping him. Even though I know what happened towards the tail end of his contract, steroids , and the decline in his performance. The Yankees could’ve attempted to trade him after a few years, or just cut him, as they done rarely come with a few other players. They certainly had the financial resources to do so.
Judge is the big question, Yanks need him to win in the next 3 years, but the back end of his contract will be ugly. I’m torn between signing him or taking his money and loading up on pitching and adding Ohtani next year.
True. They do need him to win during the regular season, but against the Astros, he has been often a no-show. So there’s that.
A couple of hits, a couple of key hits, or anything from him, and some of our series against the Astros might’ve been quite different. Of course, you could say that about any player, but he’s supposed to be our MVP and linchpin.
I like both Nimmo and Benintendi, but Yanks might only sign one. deGrom is a Met unless he doesn’t want to return, Cohen will see the that.
Nothing like a 400 million dollar payroll.
Interesting but lol no way Nimmo is the CF over Bader.
Yuck the fankees.
The Astros have been since 2015
.
If you ever feel bad, just remember Brian Cashman declined to sign Brayce Harper for an AAV of 25 million until he is 39 but traded for Donaldson who has a higher AAV that runs until he is 38
Just adding that Gio Urshela produced 3.1 WAR at $6.5M for the Twins.
Twins have their own problems!
Rizzo and Benny both to Cleveland
I think the Gmen will be on Benintendi, he’s a great fit imo.
Benny to the NFL?
I didn’t know the nfl had a team called the Gmen. Who are they?
NY Giants GMen – do they call SF that too?
Never heard the nfl giants ever being called Gmen. I’ve always referred to Sf as Gmen though.
I’ve only heard of the football giants as gmen.
The real G-Men are FBI agents.
Chucky…yes…yes we are the G-Men.
I agree Clip. Any team that signs him is paying him based on the 2022 season, not what he’ll do for the next 8. He’ll never have a year like this again. Only thing I heard Judge and Rizzo are very close, and if Judge leaves Rizzo may not want to return.
Perksy…that’s a hypothetical statement. He may not have the same year, but I see him being consistent. I don’t know about signing him for an 8 year contract though. If that’s what he’s asking for, cause obviously I know nothing, I hope every team passes. Ha
Perksy;
I’d think Rizzo would be happy to get any sort of ML contract for a decent amount that would allow him to start at least 100 games were he healthy. The fact that the stadium has a little league RF porch which makes the Yankees extra attractive.
Put another way – what MLB contender needs a 33 year-old LH hitting 1B coming off a $16m contract?
Without Judge the Yankees are a below-average team.
A handful of decent players, a few nice prospects…..which most teams have.
Yankees will spend the money to be a contender whether they sign Judge/Rizzo or not If they don’t sign them they have 50 million to spend on improving the team. I am not sure a team with both Judge and Stanton can win a championship.
They have shown already that they are not.
The Yankees were disappointing in the postseason again sure, but in what world were they a below average team? They won 100 games, let’s not let our opinions and personal hate get in the way of facts please.
pinstripes17;
Speaking of facts……
Re-read what I wrote.
P.S. Why do all the ‘Facts Matter’ people in America misrepresent what a person said, then dismiss them with “Facts Matter”?
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These are supposed to be The New York Yankees they should have the resources to sign anybody they need to make them a serious world champion contender.
OK so that’s not who they are. They can’t afford to sign Aaron Judge. Trade Donaldson, Torres, and use the money you saved not signing Judge to (1) Obtain a closer, (2) a starting pitcher, (3) obtain at least 1 left handed bat and (4) Peraza plays SS and by mid season Volpe is the second baseman. Cabrera remains the Ben Zobrist of this team. If they resign Rizzo they also have either LeMahieu or IKF to trade.
These moves are obvious to us, but with Cashman likely back ,and Boone already still remaining, the more likely to make some ignorant move. That doesn’t make them any better, but at least saves them some money.
How Much Of A Chance Is There,That Hal Steinbrenner & Brian Cashman Will Change Their Minds,About Who Will Manage The 2023 New York Yankees?
How Would It Help,If IKF Moves To 3rd Base,For 2023,While Anthony Volpe Becomes The New Shortstop & Challenges For American League Rookie Of The Year Honors?
Cashman and Computer analytics are managing the Yankees.
Boone and Cashman are letting the computer run their game.
And, frankly, it shows.
I will take Bochy, who uses a balanced approach and still uses his gut instincts
based on experience, over the computer dictating all the moves anyday.
If the Yankees for some reason can’t sign Judge, I bet they go HARD for Ohtani. Cashman will have to give up his precious precious blue-chip prospects like Dominguez and Volpe…but if they can then sign him to an extension it would be worthwhile. Alternatively, Judge PLUS Ohtani 2nd and 3rd in the lineup would be something else altogether, but that would be expecting too much I’m sure lol.
How Well Would Things Work For The 2023 New York Yankees,If They Look Something Like This?:
Batting Lineup (When Everyone Is Healthy)
1. CF Bryan Reynolds
2. RF Aaron Judge
3. 1B Anthony Rizzo
4. DH Giancarlo Stanton
5. LF Andrew Benintendi
6. 2B Gleyber Torres
7. 3B Isiah Kiner-Falefa
8. SS Anthony Volpe
9. C Sean Murphy
Bench (When Everyone Is Healthy)
Jose Trevino
D.J. LeMahieu
Oswaldo Cabrera
Harrison Bader
Starting Rotation (When Everyone Is Healthy)
1. Gerrit Cole
2. Frankie Montas
3. Sean Manaea
4. Luis Severino
5. Nestor Cortes
Bullpen (When Everyone Is Healthy)
Michael King
Lucas Luetge
Ron Marinaccio
Jonathan Loaisiga
Wandy Peralta
Clay Holmes
Lou Trivino
Aroldis Chapman
Trey Sweeney,Estevan Florial,Kyle Higashioka,Brendan Beck,Brandon Lockridge & Yoendrys Gomez Are Traded To The Oakland Athletics For Sean Murphy.
Aaron Hicks,Domingo German,Alexander Vargas,Trystan Vrieling,Drew Thorpe & Josh Breax Are Traded To The Pittsburgh Pirates For Bryan Reynolds.
Josh Donaldson Has His Contract Terminated,Making Him A Free Agent,Once Again & Allowing Him To Sign With Any Team.
Sean Manaea Signs With Them,While Luis Severino Has His Option Picked Up By Them,Plus,Aaron Judge,Andrew Benintendi & Aroldis Chapman All Sign New Contracts With Them.
The Only Reason Why I Have Aroldis Chapman Being A Yankee,In 2023,Is Because Scott Effross,Who Was Brilliant Out Of The Bullpen,After Being Acquired,From The Chicago Cubs,Is Undergoing Tommy John Surgery & Obviously,Won’t Pitch Again,Until 2024,Since It Usually Takes Pitchers,At Least,A Year,To Completely Recover From The Operation,Yet,It Will Have To Be A 1 Year Deal,For “The Cuban Missile”,
How Much Would It Help,If Hal Steinbrenner & Brian Cashman,Also,Suddenly,Change Their Minds About Who Will Manage The 2023 New York Yankees,With Their Decisions Now Being To Fire Aaron Boone & They Hire Mike Scioscia To Manage The 2023 New York Yankees,With Paul O’Neill Being Hired To Be His Bench Coach?
HARRISON Bader is a first rate Center-fielder and he will be starting. If they pick up Reynolds, he would play left. Sean Manaea is likely cooked, and if not, he is no longer a third starter. The bullpen will need to add a couple power arms. Not Aroldis. Good stuff though, seems like you put some thought into it.
What Do You Mean?
Judge might with the Dodgers or Giants.
He is from the Central Valley in California.
Ignorant, Ohtani, would be a tremendous asset to any team. But Steinbrenner would never spend the money a prospect capital necessary to acquire him. That’s a given.
Cashman and Boone back for more?!
No broom for them?!
Davis Sterns from the Brewers is available!
Lots of great Managerial talent available also!
Otherwise, just keep the same guys.
The other Teams in the AL East and MLB are happy with this result.
What?
David Sterns
Better trade stanton and a 2 prospect for
Cody Bellinger he will be free agent plus Dodger can keep paying Staton contract and cody will be free agante 2024. Staton money can be use for Judge. Cody left handed bat good for Yankees stadium.Plus sing Benny,and ss Turner.Rizzo rework contract 2 years 20 mil.trade Hick with 1 prospect for a prospect that can be a reliver like the Joey Gallo trade. Resing Tailon, and trade Torres, German, Higgy , Perraza for good quality Pitching
1b Rizzo,
2b Volpe
3B IKF
SS Turner
Rf Judge
Cf Bader
Lf Benny
C Trevino
Bench
Dj
Cabrrera
Cody
Ben Rortvedt
Last spot to grab
Yankees just need to sell the guys with money on their name to get more younger. They have 4 shortstops in the minors that can hit, field. With Sweeney, volpe, perza and oswaldo, you can run around those guys in the infield.
Trade Stanton to like San Diego for like will Myers another bad contract but at least a stopgap at first and the outfield.
The goal is for the Yankees to trim money and let the kids play, and invest into the younger guys that gets to play. Should always planned 3-5 years to draft/develop prospects, and have a stockpile if you can. Free agency is only used to fill gaps not used to fill positions long term unless it’s for a shortstop/centerfield/catcher. But the Yankees also have Austin wells that hit and play defense. Like yes the yankees have that payroll might to outspend anyone but you don’t need a $200 million payroll every year to compete. Cash keeps building these TTO hitters. Like that’s going on everywhere in the game. You need someone to bring “small ball” back and force defense and pitching to make the play/pitch. You don’t need power hitters in every spot of the lineup, homeruns can “power” you into the postseason but you won’t get far in it. Yankees, orioles, blue jays did it for years. Teams like Red Sox, Cleveland and astros continues to hit better without having a power bat in every spot. You can’t have a mike trout in every spot and hope to god that you score a lot of runs and steal bases along the way. It’s always building a team with contact bat/low strikeouts, gap hitters, defense and speed. Defense will always save pitchers unless they popped into the stands but that’s when you got to trust the defense and catcher.
Will Myers is a free agent.
San Diego won’t take Stanton and his contract.
They already have 2 300M guys in Tatis Jr and Machado.
Soto will want more too.
Trade Hicks and Stanton ,,,Yankees need contact hitter, they are an automátic strike out,,garbage, let it go free
That’s hilarious. That’s obvious, and I’m sure the Yankees could if there were any takers at all. But they are not.
Hicks: Showing signs of decline. LOL. That’s a gimme.
Wacky,Yes, that is hilarious. Talk about an understatement. Most of the time he’s not even showing signs of a pulse. He was showing signs of decline years ago. Now he’s just a nowhere man.
Rizzo will certainly opt out of his contract and I won’t be that surprised if both Rizzo and Judge are playing elsewhere next season. If Rizzo’s demands are too high, I think they should sign Josh Bell to play 1B. If Judge wants too many years and too much money, then they need to shift gears and spend elsewhere.
To begin with they need to dump the Donaldson and Hicks salaries. In order to do that, they need to offer a trading partner incentive. I would package Donaldson with Torres and try to get back something. I would package Hicks with Montas and try to get something back. Those two deals get rid of $65M of bad contracts, send Torres, not the best fielder IMO away, and Montas, who does not seem to like the lights of NY.
With the money saved I would resign Benintendi and Taillon, both of whom seem able to perform in NY. I would move Stanton back to RF and resign Carpenter to DH. So my lineup might look like
1B Bell
2B Cabrera
SS Peraza
3B DJL
LF Benintendi
CF Bader
RF Stanton
C Trevino
DH Carpenter
Starters
Cole
Cortes
Severino
Taillon
Rodon with German to fill in
Bullpen
King
Holmes
Trivino
Loiasiga
Schmidt
Peralta
Luetge
Marranuccio
Other LH from trade
Other LH from trade
Bench
Higgy
IKF
Free agent or trade
Free agent or trade
When Volpe and Wells are ready, HIggy may be gone and Cabrera may hit the bench.
Fielding Bible Award winners are out:
mlb.com/news/fielding-bible-awards-for-2022
Results seem pretty fair.
However, on a different note, Josh Donaldson not being considered for the Gold Glove award at 3rd base is ridiculous! He’s the most defensively adept 3B in the American League, other than Chapman.
clip, I really don’t care about that. But he should be considered for the most useless player award.
They just don’t learn. Turner would be perfect for this team.
Everyone says that.
Yankees won the first to 70 wins contest… there’s always that.
My God, I love watching the Yankees fall apart. At first I hated them making the playoffs, but watching them crash like this is so much more fun.
Boone and Cashman have to go !
Big mess.
Wait A Minute,What About The No Trade Clause That Giancarlo Stanton Has On His Contract?
jackjohnson52183;
Whoops……
There you go with real facts.
If I was in N.Y. id say keep Judge. Big deal, so you pay over a hundred million for the Judge, Cole, and Stanton, and probably continue to flame out in the playoff’s, so be it. You fill the stadium during the season.
Stanton is a bargain, and Cole is so bad he can’t be traded anyways, so keep Judge. They made a bad deal with Cole, but don’t let the record breaker leave. That’d be too ignorant. Can’t fix prior mistakes by making a bigger mistake, keep Judge.
Cole is just overpaid
Stanton is not a bargain. Stanton’s contract is an albatross, all SABR blog nonsense to the contrary notwithstanding. Stanton was paid $29M this year and accumulated 1.2 fWAR and 0.7 bWAR. Isiah Kiner-freaking-Falefa was paid $4.7M and accumulated 1.3 fWAR and 2.9 bWAR.
Stanton, with his 30.3 K%, struck out 55 times and owned a wretched .158 BA with two outs. He has no wheels anymore. In a close game, they have to pinch run for him. He’s too injury-prone to play the outfield with any regularity — at least not the way this front office uses him.
And that contract is only going to look worse going forward. This year he made $29M. In each of the next three years, he’ll be paid $32M. The money the Marlins agreed to pay won’t kick in until 2026.
You’re absolutely right about Cole, and you’re right about Judge’s money-making potential for the franchise — but I’m betting Judge is playing for the Giants next year.
I’m betting you are right about judge playing elsewhere. And I say, although I like judge, and hope he returns, if he doesn’t, good riddance. Too many times he fails to show up in the postseason. And that’s where he’s needed the most. We don’t need judge to continue to lose to the Astros, we can do it without him. And maybe we need a few more players instead like Harrison, Bader, not great players, but who don’t wilt in the glare of the postseason lights.
There are two main reasons why this franchise can’t afford to overpay for Judge:
1. Cole
2. Stanton
Lesser reasons are:
1. Aaron Hicks
2. DJ LeMahieu
3. Josh Donaldson
Cashman has wasted too much of the owners’ money, and Hal isn’t going to spend like his dad did. So what does this say needs to happen?
Seems to me, it says that Hal needs to sit Cashman down and ask him point blank: “Why did you waste so much of my family’s money?”
And if he doesn’t get a reasonable answer, he should do the logical thing: fire him and give the job to someone else.
Uh, you forgot the real reason: Hal Steinbrenner won’t pay.
George would have already locked him up.
You seem to have forgotten what I said: “Hal isn’t going to spend like his dad did.”
Certainly, George would’ve given the man his money already.
I thought Michael Kay had a valid point. He asserted that Hal needs to ask Brian Cashman why the analytics he’s using to run the team are failing, but a team like the Astros seems to be the beacon of consistency.
Simply put: How can the Astros analytics be that much better than the Yankees year-in and year-out?.
If they don’t jettison Hicks, Donaldson, and at least one more via DFA or trade, next year will be at least as disappointing for us Yankee fans.
Bottom line is: Hal’s got a cash cow, and until that starts to dry up, he’s not going to change.
I think the key to the Astros’ success is their international signings. Look at how many of their key players were acquired as cheap international free agents.
Unfortunately, hal , and Cashman, are joined at the hip at this point. They are Siamese, twins, one cannot be separated from the other. Steinbrenner, doesnt want to get involved with the baseball, he leaves all that to Cashman, and he believes all the spin the Cashman gives him year after year.
And I wonder where Steinbren was during all the years of George Steinbrenners reign . Was he in boarding school all that time did he ever go to with his father to the games so he would’ve picked up something from it it doesn’t seem like it.
Of course, George had his faults, I do not want to romanticize or exaggerate his virtues. He wrecked the team for many years with his impulsiveness. But he was passionate about winning at all costs, that is definitely true. He had many quotes, but he once said something like “there is no good loser. Just a loser. “That’s what he would’ve said about his son if he had seen it. he also said only the Yankees is like owning the Mona Lisa. Unfortunately, his son treats it like owning a cheap poster of the scream.
Pink that is too logical. for this franchise. Or for Steinbrenner. He believes whatever Cashmans spin is he already commented that the Yankees lost of the Astros, and this is absurd, because they did not bring their A game. If that is the case, it would be natural to wonder why they don’t bring their a game every year. Surely there’s a problem somewhere that is not being addressed.
Cashman and Steinbrenner will not do the logical thing, they will do whatever helps to balance the ledgers, so that Steinbrenner can continue to make money and use the Yankees as a springboard for his other investments. He could care less about the performance of the players on the team.
Best way to fix the Yankees is to make free agents want to play for them again. Change the no long hair rule. The no facial hair rule and watch the change happen.
Rob Manfred,After The World Series Ends,No Matter Which Team Wins,Has To Additionally Punish The Houston Astros,By Ordering Them To Trade Justin Verlander & Alex Bregman To The New York Yankees For Josh Donaldson & Randy Vasquez & Also Trade Lance McCullers Jr.,Jose Altuve & Yuli Gurriel To The Miami Marlins For Tanner Scott,Joey Wendle & Garrett Cooper,Even If 1 Of Those 5 Remaining Players From Their Sign Stealing Scandal,From 2017,Has A No Trade Clause,Which They Would Also Order To Terminate From Their Contracts.