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Dipoto: Mariners Getting Trade Interest In Chris Flexen

By Steve Adams | November 11, 2022 at 1:48pm CDT

With six starters on the Mariners’ roster at the moment, fifth starter candidates Marco Gonzales and Chris Flexen have both emerged as potential trade candidates. President of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto confirmed at today’s GM Meetings that other clubs were showing interest in Flexen back at the trade deadline and have expressed continued interest in the right-hander throughout this week’s GM Meetings in Las Vegas (Twitter link via Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times).

Flexen isn’t the only Mariners arm who’s drawn interest; Dipoto told Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic that his team is “getting hit constantly, up and down, with our bullpen, our starters.” However, Dipoto also stressed that he doesn’t plan to subtract from his bullpen via trade, but rather hopes to further augment an already strong relief corps.

As things stand, the Mariners have a deep rotation — with six starters for five spots. Luis Castillo, Robbie Ray, Logan Gilbert and George Kirby make up one of the sport’s best rotation quartets, and they’re trailed by a pair of solid fifth starter options in Flexen and longtime Mariner Marco Gonzales. Seattle also has young Matt Brash as a potential option, and while the thinking is that he’s likely bullpen-bound for the foreseeable future, Dipoto told Divish that Brash would head to Spring Training stretched out as a starter and be downshifted into a relief role if the rotation remained healthy and did not undergo any other changes.

Those potential changes, quite likely, are in reference to a possible trade of Flexen and/or Gonzales. While neither is going to front any team’s rotation, both pitchers are serviceable options in the fourth or fifth spot of a starting staff, and both are relatively affordable. Flexen is set to earn $8MM next season after triggering a vesting option on his contract. He’ll only have three-plus years of service time at that point, but MLBTR has confirmed that the two-year deal Flexen signed upon returning from the KBO allows him to become a free agent next winter. As such, he’s a one-year rental.

Since returning from a one-year stint in the KBO, the 28-year-old Flexen has pitched 317 1/3 innings of 3.66 ERA ball for the Mariners. His 16.5% strikeout rate has been well south of league-average, but he’s better than average in terms of walk rate (6.8%) and limiting home runs (1.02 HR/9). Flexen has also averaged better than 5 2/3 innings per start and done a decent job minimizing hard contact.

As for Gonzales, a trade would be tougher to piece together. He’ll turn 31 in February, making him a good bit older than Flexen, and while his $6.5MM salary for the 2023 season is more affordable than that of Flexen, Gonzales is also owed $12MM in 2024. His contract contains a $15MM option for the 2025 season, though that option has no buyout.

Two years at a combined $18.5MM isn’t necessarily egregious for Gonzales, but it’s likely more than he’d fetch in the open market at present. He’s made 67 starts and soaked up 326 1/3 innings with a 4.05 ERA over the past two seasons, but Gonzales has seen his fastball velocity, strikeout rate, walk rate and home run rate all trend in the wrong direction. Metrics like FIP, xFIP and SIERA all peg him about a full run worse than his ERA.

Logically speaking, the Mariners appear to be headed toward some form of move involving one of their two back-of-the-rotation options. Flexen, in particular, would seem appealing given the short term remaining on his contract and more reasonable overall commitment, though that’s only my own speculation.

Moving either player would help the Mariners to scale back a projected $131MM payroll next season (hat tip: Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez), not that they necessarily need to. The team’s franchise-record Opening Day payroll was $158MM back in 2018, and they took their payroll north of $170MM each year from 2016-18 by way of in-season trades (via Cot’s). That should leave ample payroll space regardless of how the team acts with regard to its rotation.

Still, spending a combined $14.5MM in 2023 payroll on a pair of fifth-starter candidates is, obviously, a sub-optimal arrangement. Shedding some or all of that combined salary will only give Dipoto and his staff more flexibility when it comes to offseason pursuits, and it’s possible that Flexen in particular could help net some immediate help for the big league roster (perhaps with some minor league talent being included by Seattle). As far as potential other targets, Dipoto has already acknowledged that he feels NPB ace Kodai Senga could be an “impact” MLB arm, and he mentioned in the aforementioned Rosenthal column that his club could seek a middle infielder and at least one — if not two — corner outfielders this winter.

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  1. angt222

    3 years ago

    STL

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  2. Wilmer the Thrillmer

    3 years ago

    Likely the Giants end up with one of those guys because Dipoto and Zaidi do lots of business. They had to have set the modern day record for trades between 2 organizations this past season..

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      3 years ago

      Mainly because they swapped the same 4th string utility players back and forth like 12 times. Also, just because two teams made a lot of deals with each other in the past doesn’t mean they’ll keep making deals with each other. They’ll listen to other offers and decide which ones they like best.

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  3. mlb fan

    3 years ago

    The Seattle Mariners and Jerry Dipoto seemingly accomplished an EXCELLENT rebuild. Wait until your farm is flush with young talent and then add some high end talent on top to finish the job.

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    • User 2079935927

      3 years ago

      As a comedy writer are you going to boycott SNL tooo.???

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      • James Midway

        3 years ago

        SNL doesn’t employ comedy writers.

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        • User 2079935927

          3 years ago

          I didn’t say SNL comedy writers

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    • HBan22

      3 years ago

      Dipoto turned the corner as GM for the M’s. It was a hugely successful rebuild, and they are only going to get better over the next couple of seasons. They need to land a big bat in free agency, though. Signing Bogaerts and moving Crawford to 2B would make a lot of sense for them.

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  4. Fred Park

    3 years ago

    Flexen is the ideal one to trade for a hitter, if indeed they need to go the trade route.
    I would rather they waited, as mlb fan says above.

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    • Fred Park

      3 years ago

      My comment is not clearly what I meant.
      I was too sleepy.
      I really don’t want to see any trades at all.
      As I have been saying, I think the Mariners are right where they need to be, right now.
      But if for some reasson they feel they have to add a hitter by trading a SP, then Flexen would be the ideal trade chip.

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      • martevious

        3 years ago

        They need a another guy who can hit, probably two. They would have beaten Houston if they could have generated some offense.

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        • ayrbhoy

          3 years ago

          A hitter who has playoff experience preferably. The M’s had plenty of men on base. They desperately needed someone to come up with the ‘big Hit’ with Runners on. They didnt have any issues getting on base- but when Carlos Santana leaves 14 men on base over the entire (5g) playoffs. France and Frazier had 12 LOB- thats 38 runners LOB between those 3 hitters alone

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  5. TradeAcuna

    3 years ago

    Mariners are close to winning it all. Pull off a blockbuster trade for Acuna and Fried.

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    • King Floch

      3 years ago

      I’ll take “things with a 0.0% probability of happening” for $800, Alex.

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      • TradeAcuna

        3 years ago

        I understand the Mariners don’t want a headache like Acuna, so maybe.

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        • bob9988 2

          3 years ago

          Acuna is a headache? News to me.

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        • King Floch

          3 years ago

          Like every single other team in baseball, I’m sure the Mariners would love to acquire a young superstar signed to a bargain contract like Acuna, the Braves simply aren’t foolish enough to trade him away just because one of their fans is cartoonishly salty at him for some silly reason.

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        • SodoMojo90

          3 years ago

          Been trying to figure why he’s so salty about him for a while now. Just another troll

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        • Jaysfan1981

          3 years ago

          @KingFloch.

          Im not that guy, if you follow Jays threads it’s clear there’s a poster who claims to have worked with the ORG and has contacts currently in the ORG etc etc.

          I know someone plugged in to the jays through social media. There’s real talk Acuna is getting traded. Seattle and the Jays are 1/2 in the talks.

          Bo Bichette is up for grabs. A 1/1 Acuna Julio has been proposed. There’s a few other teams involved

          ACUNA is upset at ATL. Upset at AA for signing his current contract.

          It’s his own fault. But he still feels taken advantage of

          Take it as a grain of salt. It’s just a troll putting BS out there

          Or…….????

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          3 years ago

          Seattle wouldn’t move Julio for Acuna, Strider, Harris II, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and Baby Jesus himself so this is all ASININE balderdash obvs.

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      • wayneroo

        3 years ago

        I’ll take that that category for $5,000. Any trade to get those two would start with Julio and X and Y and Z.

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    • bob9988 2

      3 years ago

      I dont know how they would pull it off, but Seattle would be good with that. Or just with Acuna.

      Reply
  6. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    Cubs trade Ian Happ for Flexen? Who says no?

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    • hiflew

      3 years ago

      That deal seems very doable for both sides.

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    • trgedlin

      3 years ago

      Fair deal, and the Cubs can stop pretending they will extend Happ.

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    • junior25

      3 years ago

      Cubs
      With Velezquaz under performing
      Brennan Davis back injury and Canario with a double ankle break Cubs need all OF help they can get

      Reply
    • pinstripes17

      3 years ago

      No way I would do that if I’m the Cubs.

      Reply
  7. AlienBob

    3 years ago

    The 2022 season was the first in a while when the M’s did not have a player from Japan. It sounds like they will make and offer to Kodai Senga. He could replace Flexen in their plans.

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    • bob9988 2

      3 years ago

      He could, but i think Yoshida is a better fit for their needs.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      3 years ago

      Our player from Japan will be Shohei Ohtani.

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    • toycannon

      3 years ago

      First year since 1995, when they had Mac Suzuki on the 40 man roster.

      Reply
  8. bob9988 2

    3 years ago

    Seattle would have no problem with that arrangement.

    Reply
  9. benhen77

    3 years ago

    Trader Jerry Flexen his pitching depth.

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  10. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    3 years ago

    If they trade Flexen, I’m hoping it’s for a middle infielder they can stash in AAA and has even a little bit of upside potential. Their system is pretty thin on SS/2B at the upper levels, they could use some depth there in case of injuries. That said, I’m not sure if they’ll part out their pitching staff without a plan to add another arm. They got super lucky almost nobody got injured this year. I think Sadler was the only guy who missed a lot of time, and he’s a reliever. Flexen’s a reliable 4th-5th starter/swingman who keeps the team in the game, and if something happened to the other starters he can step up right away.

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  11. Jake1972

    3 years ago

    Cubs trade:

    Jason Hayward

    Kyle Hendricks

    David Bote

    Mariners send those two pitchers…

    Who says no?

    Before you answer just note I am joking and no way do you add Bote into this trade!!!

    ( Now that all of you had a good laugh let see some good suggestions )

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    • Jaysfan1981

      3 years ago

      Acuna to the Jays

      Bichette, Gurriel Jr, Tieddeman and a few A / AA prospects

      If Swanson leaves

      Reply
  12. King Floch

    3 years ago

    The O’s have 3 very promising IF prospects coming off solid AAA showings in 2022 (Westburg, Ortiz, Norby) and could probably stand to clear a spot for one of them. Ramon Urias for Flexen and a prospect or two?

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      3 years ago

      After looking up Urias, I’m intrigued. Above league average hitter capable of playing the middle infield and is under control until 2027. If I’m the Mariners I’d do the trade straight up.

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      • King Floch

        3 years ago

        I would definitely want something else coming back my way with Flexen if I was the Orioles FO since he is only a 1 year rental and Urias has 4 years of control remaining. Nothing extravagant, maybe an arm from outside of their top 5 pitching prospects and a vaguely interesting Dominican teenager or something along those lines.

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  13. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    3 years ago

    That’s a ton of dead weight coming from the Cubs. Dipoto would laugh, hang up the phone, and block their number.

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  14. HBan22

    3 years ago

    Selling high(ish) on Flexen is a smart move. Seattle also has not only Brash, but three other very decent starting pitching prospects (Emerson Hancock, Bryce Miller and Taylor Dollard) who should all be MLB ready by some point in 2023. You can never have too much pitching, but trading Flexen for some offensive talent makes a ton of sense for the M’s this off-season.

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      3 years ago

      Flexen and Gonzales are the most expendable arms but at the same time the Mariners got really lucky with the health of their pitching staff. I wouldn’t just trade them unless there’s an intriguing offer on the other side, and I wouldn’t trade them without a plan to replenish the staff with another reliable back end option at minimum.

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  15. hoof hearted

    3 years ago

    Mariners trade Marco back to St Louis for Tommy Edman. Marco has 2 years plus an option. Pretty Dependable in taking the ball every 5th game. Edman, good leadoff hitter, War last year over 6 and a gold Glover. 23 is first year of arbitration

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    • disadvantage

      3 years ago

      “Edman, good leadoff hitter, War last year over 6 and a gold Glover” (in addition to having control until 2025) is exactly why the Cardinals wouldn’t even give this the time of day.

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    • SodoMojo90

      3 years ago

      Good job explaining the reason why this trade would never ever happen

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  16. hoof hearted

    3 years ago

    Flexin to Minnesota for second baseman Polanco
    And they won’t have an 8 or 9 year commitment at 25 million a year plus!

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    • Jaysfan1981

      3 years ago

      When did Jorge Polanco sign a 200 mill deal?

      Lol

      Reply
  17. Googolplex

    3 years ago

    Keep him. 6 starters is not a deep rotation in this day and age. There’s bound to be injuries and poor performances. He’ll slot right in at some point throughout the season.

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    • compassrose

      3 years ago

      Following Jerry’s usual mode Hancock will come up and get a few starts. Will be able to gauge his readiness to move up. ST will also help. If Marco is as unspectacular as last year and Hancock looks good they could send Marco to BP and bring up Hancock. Putting Hancock at 5 would on paper be a formidable starting 5. I would think Jerry would get this done before trade deadline to swap Marco for a need again if all starters are healthy.

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      • ayrbhoy

        3 years ago

        I think we will see at LEAST one SP prospect in 2023!! I’ve been watching the M’s for nearly 3 decades now and I can’t remember another season where our entire rotation went the whole season w/o any of them going onto the IL. There’s almost zero chance that happens again! Wasn’t it the 2017 M’s squad that tied an MLB record for the most Pitchers used in one season?

        If Hancock can remain injury free surely he will be promoted, however I think Taylor Dollard will be up before Hancock. Dollard has pitched in a whopping 106 games combined Minors and NCAA. Whereas Hancock has 66g combined in College (33g) and Minors (33g)

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  18. toycannon

    3 years ago

    Crawford and Flexen to LA for Lux.

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  19. Slothcliff Hokum

    3 years ago

    One answer to “who do they trade”? Sign Kodai Senga, then trade both Flexen and Gonzales. That would seem to assume at least 1) that the M’s feel Senga is better than both Flexen and Gonzales, and 2) one of Hancock, Brash, Miller or Dollard could fill in if there was an injury to Castillo, Gilbert, Kirby, Ray or Senga. Paired with other players (maybe including Winker?), deals involving Flexen or Marco should bring back some guys who can lengthen the lineup and strengthen the bullpen. If there was a way they could sign Bogaerts or Turner, sign Senga, and make the above trades, I’d be very happy.

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    • compassrose

      3 years ago

      I would go for that especially if Winker was included. The other signing that would make a ton of sense is Masataki. He could play in RF if the don’t sign Haniger one could go to left if they do. Then a 2nd bm could be Frazier he started to hit towards the end of the season. A couple of pieces in BP and would be a decent off season.

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    • Jaysfan1981

      3 years ago

      Kikuchi says Hello!!!

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      • Slothcliff Hokum

        3 years ago

        Hello back to Kikuchi! And may he figure out to keep the ball inside the fences for Toronto during the next two years of his contract.

        Reply
  20. BPax

    3 years ago

    On Seattle sports radio today a local Mariner writer said they are shopping Jesse Winker too. Apparently, Winker is a clubhouse problem. A bounce back candidate Winker plus Flexen and a prospect or two might net the Mariners a decent fish. Puns intended.

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    • Ben10

      3 years ago

      That’s according to a local beat writer. Dipoto already shot that article down. Now I’m not saying that they wouldn’t trade Winker, but he’s not being shopped around.

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      • ColoradoRider

        3 years ago

        Of course Dipoto shot that story down! He had to or else he would have devalued him in any trade scenario.

        The fact that he was not with the team for their first home playoff game in 21 freakin’ years should tell you everything you need to know about the relationship between Mr Winkey and the rest of the team.

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  21. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    3 years ago

    I would hate to see Flexen go. He’s a bulldog and leaves his heart and soul out on the mound. You couldn’t find a more serious competitor. That being said, the dude deserves a starting rotation turn every 5 days, and leaving him floundering as a long-man in the bullpen is a waste of his talent. Whichever team lands Flexen will be very much satisfied and you will love watching him work.

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  22. drfelix

    3 years ago

    In the July 2021 trading deadline Dipoto was all in wanting Bryan Reynolds from Pitts.. I don’t know what a Bryan Reynolds trade would look like, but he’s already what we want Kelenic to turn into, but Kelenic has several more years of club control left. Don’t rule out a package including Kelenic and pitching for Reynolds. With Seattles 2023 payroll they could even pony up and throw even $50m at Judge aggressively. I’m probably dreaming, but that OF would be sick for the next 6 years:

    Judge
    Julio
    Reynolds

    With that OF I would be fine with Bringing back Frazier

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  23. SODOMOJO

    3 years ago

    Whoever gets Flex will love him. He is a bulldog out there, man. Intelligent, makes adjustments, and can locate. The stuff isn’t great so when he fails to locate he gets touched up. But any playoff team would be solid with Flex as their #4-5 guy

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    • ColoradoRider

      3 years ago

      Don’t forget he also a great team player!

      Reply
  24. hrush28

    3 years ago

    Can someone just tag the right Luis Castillo for once? It’s been the tigers one who has like 1 appearance for months now guys

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