Chris Bassitt agreed to a three-year, $63MM deal with the Blue Jays earlier this week, but Jon Heyman of The New York Post reports that the Padres were in on the bidding and were one of the finalists. It’s not known if they made a formal offer or what it looked like, but the fact that they were somewhat close is nonetheless noteworthy.
The Padres were never really a financial powerhouse in the baseball world but they have changed that reputation in the past few years. They had never run an Opening Day payroll reaching $110MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts, until they shot up to $174MM in 2021 and $211MM in 2022, effectively doubling their previous franchise highs. It appears that we still don’t know where their limit is, as they have continued spending this winter.
After aggressive overtures to Aaron Judge and Trea Turner were turned down, the club pivoted and gave Xander Bogaerts a deal worth $280MM over 11 years. That’s brought the club’s payroll up to $235MM for next year, per Roster Resource, already more than $20MM beyond last year’s mark.
Perhaps more importantly, the club’s competitive balance tax figure is at $255MM, already beyond the second luxury tax tier of $253MM. The Padres paid the CBT in both 2021 and 2022, setting them up to be third-time payors in 2023. There are escalating penalties for teams that pay in consecutive seasons, with the Padres already looking at a 50% tax on all spending beyond $233MM with greater penalties at the three subsequent tiers that go up in $20MM increments. Going beyond $253MM, which they are already lined up to do, comes with a 62% tax while going beyond $273MM would come with a 95% tax hit and see their top pick in next year’s draft moved back ten spots.
We don’t know what kind of offer the Padres made to Bassitt, but if it was competitive enough to get near what he accepted from the Jays, it was likely at least near the $20MM range in terms of average annual value. That shows that the club has at least some willingness to add that kind of money to their payroll and CBT figure. Signing Bassitt, or any other player, to a $20MM salary would lead to the Padres also paying over $12MM in taxes.
If they do have that kind of money to spend, the fact they are considering a rotation upgrade is not surprising. They have a strong front three in Joe Musgrove, Yu Darvish and Blake Snell, but the back end is a bit less certain. The club re-signed Nick Martinez, who began 2022 in the rotation but was eventually bumped to the bullpen, where he proved to be more effective. He posted a 4.30 ERA as a starter and a 2.67 as a reliever. There’s also Adrian Morejon, though he’s an unknown commodity after undergoing Tommy John surgery in April of 2021. He returned in 2022 and tossed 34 innings over 26 relief appearances, which is encouraging but might make it hard for him to suddenly jump to 150 innings or more next year. There’s also the long-term picture to consider, as both Snell and Darvish are set to reach free agency after 2023, leaving Musgrove as the only true building block of the rotation. Adding a reliable starter makes plenty of sense for now and for the future.
Though Bassitt got away, the Padres still have options in free agency. If they truly want to go wild with the spending, Carlos Rodón is the top free agent pitcher available. Aside from him, other options include Nathan Eovaldi, Noah Syndergaard, Michael Wacha, Corey Kluber, Drew Rucinski, Johnny Cueto, Drew Smyly and others.
This one belongs to the Reds
Missed it by THAT much!
The Padres we’re finalists for EVERYONE!!!
Yes every free agent they were finalist for. SD paying to get writers to send this out ⚾️
Its a win now mentality
Cap, with all of their “podium” placements this off-season I like to refer to them as the “Silver Medalists” now in all these little runner-up finishes they are having.
@Trumbo- Yes the Friars are definitely my favorite bobsledding team now. I do think giving them a “silver medal” is way too nice. The Pods now need to hire Jon Heyman, to tell everybody who’s signing with them!
Just like the Mets, Yankees and Giants. Cohen just buys every Free agent if they are still on the market.
The Guardians were actually 1st runner-up… just to clarify the facts.
This one belongs to the Reds
The Reds $1.98 over the minimum offer came up short too.
The Orioles tried to include some Machado rookie cards in the deal that fell short by 50 million
I heard it was a rare POG collection actually.
I genuinely hate you as a person
Guardians already rang the Bell.
Bassitt was not interested in the 70-year, $70MM offer.
In all honesty they maybe a way to convince ppl to come. Let’s say there market rate is 20 per. Pay them 12-14 per and the 8-10 deferred over 3-5 years. I believe they get interest on that money. And it’s a way for a team with no attendance to win some extra games, bring more ppl in and have more bullets for FA in the next years
The only potential downside to deferred payouts is bankruptcy
Murph, there’s also a thing about time/value of money.
The same 1$ today is not worth the same 1$ 3-5 years from now.
You’d need to invest it and beat the inflation rate which is currently absurd.
Padres were 4th or 5th in attendance. San Diego is 2nd only to OC in how beautiful of a place it is to live. I don’t think any of those apply here.
Was going to say that depends on what part of OC you are in and then thought about El Cajon and San Ysidro in SD County. Still prefer SD even though I live as far north as you can go in the county without living on Pendleton.
Such an amazing comment lol
Perhaps it’s blog performance art?
So you’re telling me there WAS a chance?
Yes definitely a chance to come up short
After reading all these off-season posts, it is clear the Padres were “finalists” on just about EVERYONE..
Either close the deal or move on. “Finalist” is irrelevant. Like most of my comments.
Is there really any point to writing these after the fact articles?
Good PR for the teams that come up short.
Not by the comments here. Everyone is blasting them for coming up short
They got one of the best shortstops in the league and have the most projected WAR on steamer ATM because of it…
It’s MLB Trade RUMORS, so yes.
I think the main point is that SD is till looking for pitching near the top of what remains on the market. These after the fact articles give you context about that team’s possible future moves.
i like al conin
It helps with greater clarity into the the market and the spending interest of the Padres.
Read the name of the website you are commenting on. If you don’t get it the first time, read it again. Its all there.
This isn’t exactly a trade rumor
And you’re not exactly not being pedantic
I guess their $175 Million offer to Bassitt wasn’t enough.
Keep on spending, Fools! That’s more money for the small market teams.
During the season do you just open up a spreadsheet on your tv and cheer instead of watching your bad team?
The Padres ARE a small market team. 27th largest market to be exact. They received a Competitive Balance draft pick this year, so they are still receiving revenue sharing as a small market team while paying a competitive balance tax. Ironic isn’t it?
Their owners are just deciding to spend with the big boys instead of pocketing the other owners money without even trying to field a competitive team like Nutting has done for years. We need more Padres in MLB and less Pirates.
Just so you know, Pittsburgh is the 26th largest market.
Just so you know (though you probably do), San Diego is a very affluent community with lots of ability to sell corporate suites.
That being said, Nutting can easily spend $50 million more in 2023 and have a positive cash flow, even apart from equity increases. $50 million could get them Rodon, Chafin, Ottavino, and Will Myers.
I covered that below in my Ted Talk. lol. Nutting is in a larger market than San Diego and corporate suites don’t add that much to the bottom line.
With a CBT payroll of $60 million, Nutting is pocketing around $100 million in profit. That is more than he pays all the players on the 40 man roster.
@budget Could say the same for Cohen and the Mets. They got 95 million or more on the Padres.
Damn even the Jays getting hits on the Padres,
It’s like your little brother just stole your GF
Or in you’re case BF
You are using an orientation as a pejorative. If you are not a bigot, and rather just a little insensitive, you should delete that and pick a different insult to use for light banter.
He wasn’t showing contempt for gay people. Just CaptainJudge99. If anything he was complimenting them by saying that they were intelligent.
Was referring to CaptainJudge99 “BF” comment.
Yes, to be clear I am not homosexual or phobic. The “slur” was intended for Judges clearly ignorant comment, in defense of the LGBTQ plus community I informed him where he could find intelligent DNA (in what I thought was a witty and not disgusting manner) as he is obviously lacking it, not only due to his inability to correctly use “your” in a sentence but also the ignorance behind his statement itself.
Glad we could have this talk, everyone needs to be a little less sensitive. You give words power. Not the other way around
Oh, he gets a free pass from me as to the grammar correction.
Just don’t like him using someone having a “BF” as a stock insult. He normally sticks to baseball, which is what we all want here.
Manny I like to stick to Baseball too, but if I can’t go on a few of my movie quoting tirades daily I would feel lost here =(
Telling him to smarten up by ‘becoming gay’ is supposed to confuse him, or you earnestly believe in that advice?
And I can’t resist some of the puns.
No need to explain, CJ99 is a notorious troll. Mute works
I think you missed the joke.
Oh ok. That’s a fair comment then. I wish they would say who you’re replying to like it does on other sites. It can get kind of confusing as to who’s replying to who sometimes.
CJ99 was worse using a disadvantaged group as an insult.
Jaysfan was poor wording but not discriminatory.
I wouldn’t dunk on SD. Put them a dead heat with LAD and ATL as best team in NL right now. Great that they ain’t satisfied
lol. do you watch baseball?
do you also think the cowboys are the best team in football?
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Uhh…no. They almost lost to the Texans who are intentionally losing for draft picks. Cowboys aren’t even the best team in their division.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
The Saber-toothed Superfife
That’s Cowboys with a capital “C”!
Is that with Tatis staying clean and away from motorbikes trying not to get in trouble in a corner (OF)?
This year. What about next 5? That Bogaerts contract is terrible.
Jung Like My Daddy
Still go out and sign
1 of Cueto, Kluber, Wacha, Greinke, Bundy, Fedde, Syndergaard
1 of Hill, Miley, Smyly
to complete the rotation
Bring in 2 of
Hand, Kimbrel, Chapman, Bradley, Fulmer, Ottavino to replace Johnson and Stammen
Bring in Andrew Chafin or Matt Moore to give the Padres another lefty out of the pen
to complete the pen
Whew! Can’t wait to see that clubhouse if Chapman were allowed in there.
A 5.00 ERA is a good season for Bundy. Nobody should be hoping their team signs him
Jung Like My Daddy
5 out of his 7 ML seasons he has an ERA under 5
He gives you what he gave the Twins last year – 29 starts, 140 innings, under 5 ERA as a # 5 thats decent production Especially for a team that is near its spending limit like Padres probably are.
Thor for the rotation for 2/36 with an option.
Leave the pen alone. With the return of Pomeranz its strong and has depth.
Sign JD Martinez. 2/24 with opt out after 1 year. Yes, Boras is his agent.
So if the Padres have money to spend….I wonder what other teams that have never run out a payroll of over $110MM could also spend a lot more on payroll? Hmmmmm.
All. Of. Them.
I think it has a lot to do with attendance. 3m fans come in and that generates a lot of money in ticket sales concessions merchandise and parking. Got to figure close to 100 a fan on average? It helps the padres are the only game in town. No competition. And they finally got a real tv deal a few years ago. They can easily afford what they are spending.
This constant stream of headlines about the Padres missing out on players is hilarious. Shame on Xander for breaking the streak.
I’m sure a lot more teams than the Padres miss out on these guys, but the Padres FO must be full of chatterboxes.
Its just Jon Heyman trying to stay in the news.
@VonPurpleHayes It’s Heyman (and therefore Boras) leaking everything to bring up prices. This was specifically to bring up the price of Rodon. If the padres were going to spend a 2nd QO on Bassitt they will definitely do it for Rodon.
I didn’t realize that Bassitt had a QO. Well that does make it more interesting that they were willing to lose the draft picks and international FA money.
As a Padre fan, losing the draft pick doesn’t concern me too much, but losing that International money does. They are said to be signing Ethan Salas, the top rated International prospect this year, they better make sure they have enough for him.
getting the Padres in the news gets Hey Man hits on articles, all that it is
Xander would never be allowed to show his face in an MLB clubhouse and probably lose his union membership if he turned that offer down. He basically had no choice but to accept
Drew Rucinski? He’s 33 with a lifetime ERA of 5.33. How did he make the list of notable free agents?
This one belongs to the Reds
I’m sure one of the big market teams will give him over 10 million for that.
Wild stab at a surprise with FA #50.
The article on the top 50 predictions explains that MLBTR has a tradition of going outside the box for slot # 50, so his overseas status helped. Otherwise, there are several other players who I would place above him not in top 50.
I might have gone a bit further outside the box and said Joe Beimel. He was trying to make a comeback up till last year.
“Thanks, Captain Obvious!”
“No problem, Jock Strap!”
Lmao had to replenish blue ballz on his comment earlier.
Someone should tell the Padres that carrying a 28 man roster where every player makes $20m/ year isn’t really sustainable. Nor do you get any kind of award for that. I’m not sure they know.
Actually, as long as 80% of their offers are declined, it may be ok.
I guess its good for them that only 4 will be making $20 million, right?
Even if you add Tatis, who will get $6m but $21m for luxury tax purposes, you have just Machado, Bogaerts, Musgrove and Darvish. Next for luxury tax purposes are Hosner and Snell, both closer to $10m.
Padres are more like the person who bids on 20 homes for 10K under-market but ends up with one or two. Nothing wrong with that. The only exception is Judge where they may have informally indicated a willingness to pay much more than the Yankees (e.g., one extra year at the same rate). I don’t see that reflecting too bad on them.
I definitely do not think Preller is great, but nor the worst. New ownership has clearly bought into the win now mode with large sacrifice of farm. Based on current spending, the Soto acquisition does not seem as bad, Padres had rushed up Abrams too early anyhow.
Darvish salary is $18 million according to Cots Baseball Contracts. I guess it is over $20 million for CBT purposes though.
The $20m/ year was just a number pulled out of the sky, not really something you should put that much thought into.
Regardless of what the final numbers are, it doesn’t change the fact that the current plan is not very sustainable. Hopefully they can win a World Series in the next year or two. After that, it will be some very unfruitful seasons.
All of this of course doesn’t even touch on the fact that this front office was dead set on moving Kim off SS and putting Cronenworth at 1B. Both of those decisions are, to be frank, pretty questionable. Kim is the best defensive SS on the roster (by a long shot) and Cronenworth’s numbers are league average for a first baseman. Yet, here we are.
the idea is to have 4 SS in the infield. idk about crone being an average 1b but he has a 70 range on an 80 scale and with no more shifts it may be the best infield in baseball. Kim is probably best as a utility guy with the lack of punch with the bat.
Well it depends, if Padres are pretty sure that they will be unable to keep Machado or Soto, then keeps Tatis, Jr. and Bogaerts still leaves them flexible enough. They probably can keep Machado or Soto (but not both) but then their wiggle room is lessened.
So you are saying you pulled it out of your behind and that we should not pay attention to anything you say because you are full of it?
Extending Machado will not effect the next few years. He will still make $30 million for 5 more seasons even if signed to an extension that increases his AAV slightly. I doubt Seidler will let it get to the point of being a bidding war in FA and from Machado’s comments I think he wants to be a Padre for life.
Soto is a Padres through the 2024 season if he is not traded. Worry abut resigning him in offseason before 2024.
Darvish, Snell, Pomeranz, Hader, and a few others that account for $58 million come off the books after 2023. More worried about extending or replacing them than resigning Soto right now.
Crone’s offensive numbers are league average for 1B and they have been in decline the last three years. His .722 OPS in 2022 would’ve ranked him 19th in MLB among first baseman. ERIC HOSMER was at .710. So congrats Padres fan, years of waiting to get rid of Hosmer has yielded a replacement with essentially the same OPS.
You cannot say you are trying to build the best defensive infield you can and then move a guy who finished second in gold glove voting off of shortstop. In what world does that make sense? The only answer is you want to pay a guy $280m and he insists on playing SS. Nevermind that you have Tatis coming back on April 20th with a career .292 batting average, .965 OPS and 42 bombs in 2021 who might be upset about all this.
This is the kind of stupid stuff Preller does all the time. It’s like people forgot that he is the one who built the team in 2015 with a bunch of big names playing out of position and it totally imploded. Remember 2018 when Wil Myers was awesome at 1B, then he moved him to make room for Hosmer? Literally within 6 months they were running Wil Myers out there in MLB games at THIRD BASE and he promptly took a grounder right off his face.
If you ain’t first, then you’re last.
Two sets of fans in Pennsylvania would both disagree with you.
Maybe they couldn’t land all these guys cause they were making offers to everyone and too busy to finalize anything!
Seidler doesn’t look well. If it’s not the Giants, I want it to be the Padres.
Seidler has already beaten cancer twice and I think he is only in his early 60s.
I’m not sure you ever beat it, but yeah,
I read that. Then I stumbled cross the Bogaerts introduction on YouTube.
Good luck to the man. He wants it.
My dad beat pancreatic cancer. But not before they took his pancreas, some of his stomach and some of his intestines. But he lived for 20 more years. But you’re right, you usually don’t beat cancer, at best you hold it at bay.
How I wish we could have transferred some of that WANT IT to Arte Moreno a decade ago. How nice would it have been to see Trout in the playoffs every year?
He is 62. Non-Hodgkins lymphoma I believe, The guy is a success story at every level including overcoming cancer twice.
Doing it for the people. Much respect.
Aha! No one wants to join the Padres. Garbage-time team. Soto will be gone after the 2024 season.
Soto will take the money
The team that offers the most, all guaranteed.
Why do you think the Padres are garbage? They made it to the NLCS last year and are spending money to try and win it all. How is that garbage? everyone wants to know how the Padres hurt you so deep?
A lot of comments here talking about the Padres spending money this off-season. But are they? They lose Myers, Hosmer (still paying him though), Bell, Profar, Clevinger, Manaea, Drury, Johnson, etc… and sign only Martinez and Bogaerts so far. Seems they’ve been a little quiet.
And Suarez. A starter, a reliever, and a SS.
Why do you think the Padres are garbage?
– Mainly due to management being irrational with their moves that never make sense but do make the big splash headlines to get the Padres in the news. They’re hemorrhaging money but hey, it’s not mine!
They made it to the NLCS last year and are spending money to try and win it all.
– The Phillies made it to the WS and were a few games away from winning it all and they were in the playoffs because of the extra wild card spots, just like the Padres. If we had kept the wild card teams as is, neither team would have actually made the playoffs, so no, your team isn’t that great.
How is that garbage?
– I just explained above.
everyone wants to know how the Padres hurt you so deep?
– What? Did my comments hurt your feelings? LOL!
Irrational? Says who some old get off my lawn dude who acts like a child? You obviously are smarter than Preller.
Also you answered the question and then re referenced your answer but ok I think you may be losing it.
Yep it seems you talk a lot about other teams and maybe you should just worry about your own.
Cheers old balls
@Old York Dude, just ignore this troll. He’s ALWAYS like this! Beware! Get out now before it’s too late!
Ricky Martin fan too eh Rooster? You probably didn’t watch the Padres playoff games either. Talk about TROLLS.
Hey Ryan what section are your season tickets?
I comment on everything you say? That’s rich. Remember this thread?
Can you please continue to say WAAAAAAAAHHHH! a bit louder?
put it in the books
We all just assumed they were at this point, not worth mentioning
The Saber-toothed Superfife
What were the Tigers doing?
How did the Padres go from being a middle of the road at best payroll team to a Yankees/Dodgers type seemingly overnight??
Preller is so damn lucky he has the best owner in sports. He lets him to literally anything he wants, no restrictions, and if a trade or signing doesn’t work out, it won’t hold them back and he doubles down. Just insane really.
“…best owner in sports…”
Very much doubt that.
Then again, to many here following MLB is all about who spends what money.
Yea I’m using a bit of hyperbole but imagine having an owner that signs off on everything, stays out of the way, doesn’t complain or force moves. Can’t ask for much more.
How I wish Arte had allowed the large market Angels to do that even just for one extended stretch. I so would have liked to see Trout in a WS in his prime.
I think every MLB fan agrees with you. Even the fans that root for the Mariners, Rangers, and Astros.
Having conversations with yourself again lol
The Mets have the highest payroll in MLB
By over $100 million right now. It is crazy to think that they are outspending the 2nd highest team by more than the Pirates, A’s, and a couple other teams are spending total.
They might go for it and climb over $500 MM payroll
holecamels35- Exactly, Preller is not really a very good GM.
Gets Leafs and raptors box seats in the deal… that was the kicker
Bassitt was one that I was really hoping the Angels would be in on, along with a battery mate in Vazquez. A solid mid-rotation starter that wouldn’t require a long term investment.
The Angels have nothing to trade, so the FA market is Minassian’s only option with several holes still in the roster. Bassitt would have filled one of those really well.
With a 6 man rotation because of Ohtani, the Angels need more starters and more depth. Didn’t the Angels already sign one pitcher that had a QO? Anderson?
Color me NOT surprised. “Breaking news: Padres are in on everyone.”
They will have to settle with a beautiful Chaise lounge chair they picked up from the San Diego Bassist Furniture Showroom.
I should shop there. I’m a bassist.
You should read Ken Rosenthal’s latest article on The Athletic. He espouses the virtues of Owners who are willing to spend and condemns the cheap owners in his column. The Players Union should thank Ken and take him out for a steak dinner, unless he is already on their payroll. The article is very pro player and rich owners, like Steve Cohen.
Rosenthal definitely endeared himself to the players. Don’t be surprised when Ken Rosenthal is granted a higher percentage of player interviews and inside access for the rest of his life compared to his peers.
The Angels are over $500 million in revenue. Arte could easily spend much, much more and still make a healthy profit.
The Braves had $568 million in revenue in 2021 with non-player payroll and related expenses of $132 million. That includes things like benefits (travel expenses and per diem on the road,, etc…), retirement contributions, and everything else that is paid to players on the 40 man roster. Its looking like they will be around $545 million in revenue in 2022. They could easily spend up to and beyond the CBT and still make a nice profit.
Th Blue Jays books say they receive no income from a local TV contract because they are owned by Rogers which broadcasts their games. Teams in similar size TV markets in the US are making $100 million plus from their local TV deals. Even with that not adding to the coffers, they had $452 million in revenue. They can afford to spend much more on player payroll.
We don’t know exactly what the other teams make, but we know that grievances have been filed by the MLBPA against the Pirates, Marlins, and A’s for not spending. With revenue that is probably over $300 million and expenses that can’t be much more than the Braves, plus receiving revenue sharing money from the big market teams, Nutting is pocketing $100 million plus per year right now instead of spending that on fielding a competitive team. That is unsustainable if the sport wants to survive.
The Padres are a small market team that is still receiving CB draft picks and revenue sharing while spending above the CBT threshold. It just shows how much money the teams are really making that Cohen can blow past the highest levels of the CBT and the small market Padres can go $20-30 million over the 1st level of the CBT.
Thanks for listening to my TedTalk.
Just went back and read the article from the AJC again and the Braves revenue in 2021 included $42 million in real estate related income. So only $526 million in baseball related revenue.
In 2022 the projected $545 million number is just baseball related revenue and does not include that recurring real estate related income.
Rosenthal has been doing that for over 10 years.
Scott Boras has had him in his hip pocket for at least that period of time.
Hmm, what’s that old Rickey Bobby saying? “If your not first, your last!
Call me cynical but there is clearly something wrong in SD. They only player they have been “in” on that signed got double the projected years and dollars. They also started the cycle of overpay with early bullpen resignings over value. Senga and Judge actually signed nearly immediately after meeting with them in person. Certainly a lot of smoke so not a serious jump to conclusions here to say there is a problem under the surface.
Bogaerts got far less AAV than was predicted. He just got the dollars spread out over more years. That is not something wrong, its something smart because for at least the next 4 seasons teams will be limited in payroll by the very low CBT threshold.
I completely disagree but respect your stance regarding XB. However it fails to address the larger point – no one wants to be there unless they overpay by a ton. And even that wasn’t enough for Turner.
Padres underpaid on Bogaerts. He was expected to get $30 million AAV on a 7-8 year deal and got $27 million AAV.
If no one wanted to be here, how do you explain a team filled with some of the best players in baseball including the widely respected Bogaerts?.
I smell jealousy from the Mets fan. Spend $100 million more and the Mets are still not as good as the Padres.
Also, how many people chose not to sign with the Mets? Even a lifelong Met chose to not even give them a chance to match the Rangers bid for him he wanted out so bad.
whereas the Mets strategy is to just outspend every team by at least $100MM and ignore the CBT entirely as if the world was about to end tomorrow
Funniest thing yet. Thanks for the laugh. Being traded is a bit a choice. Best of luck. Dodger doormat
They have five guys under contract for 2025 but yea, that’s the same as three with $300M contracts that all end around age 65. Oh and guess what?? Cohen is going to keep spending. Get used to it!
Imagine a world where people, let alone fans of the team that literally has everything and more because the owner is a billionaire fan, are jealous of the Padres. Zero. Absolutely zero titles. Turned down for prom all off-season. Make excuses why like “east coast” or “hallowed franchise” . San Diego is a beautiful city so you insult yourself when you say such fodder.
Jealous Mets fan? Dude I feel giddy like a child on Christmas knowing they went as hard they can to get there all the while having a top five farm and 6 picks in the first 135 of this years draft and having just five guys signed for 2025, meaning a reset or another massive amount of signings will follow. Why in the world – in the universe – on any day – would a Mets fan be jealous of the Padres? Yankees have a claim. Braves absolutely have a claim. Padres? Fathers? Dodger snacks? Na
One guy. One. And the Mets made clear they weren’t giving five years. Now on the other hand todays tidbits:
Vogelbach says the clubhouse is amazing and super professional. It’s amazing to see the vets treat everyone equally
Roberts says the reason he chose NY was to win. He was quoted by saying Wow! What a roster
Senga stated the desire to win and play in a big market. He chose NY over SD
Verlander chose NY over LA and the other NY team.
Do I need to give more examples? These wouldn’t have been tough to see if you just looked objectively. All I said was it seems as though there is something wrong with so many guys taking less money to play anywhere else. You have a guy getting $340M that cheats and acts a fool putting the team in jeopardy. You have owner that got upset over being told no twice and delivered a laughable deal to the third or fourth best SS on the market. Those are just the obvious things. But guys don’t typically turn down an extra $25M to live in Philly over SD.
You ain’t jealous you couldn’t get out the wild card round? Remember The Padres beat you at home in the first round of the playoffs? Riiiight
for someone who doesn’t care about the padres you sure spend A LOT of time talkin about the Padres. You sound like a jealous teenage girl!
See you in the play…oh wait I forgot you still mad we smoked you LOLZZ
Padre D slappin up that face whapoosh! If you guys do somethin next year, feel free to run your mouth. Until then.sit down, be humble. .
Dude. Clean your underwear from the PE you obviously have over finally winning a playoff round. Phillies smoked ya. The Phillies! I’ll say once more for you but you want get it. Baseball, like football, movies, concerts and dog shows, is simply a pastime for my enjoyment. I don’t cry when my team loses. I don’t get offended and argue with a stranger when they think my team is flawed and my GM is a drunken sailor. I simply have no care about that series. I was at a concert during game 1. Fact is the Mets won 101 games and the Padres won 87. Winning a three game series proves exactly nothing about talent levels. I will say I believe the Mets and Phillies have significantly improved their clubs compared to SD. Drury gone. Bell gone. They got nearly every big hit in the playoffs. I wish you well. But first you have to start to understand you are a joke to me, and much like baseball you are part of my entertainment. You aren’t an adversary because I don’t respect you. You have your opinion and your passion and I have my comfort knowing that if I’m wrong, and the Padres win it all this year, I simply won’t care. By contrast, if the Mets do, I will smile for just a few more nights than I did last year. Best of luck in life. By the way you get so upset on a baseball rumor site, you need it
Cool story bro! For someone who pretends to know a lot about baseball didn’t even watch his team in the biggest game of the year and probably last 5+ years. You outed yourself.
“I don’t argue w strangers” yet here.you.are.
Hope you enjoyed your Ricky Martin concert :O
Diatribes are especially sad when you realize they stem not from wanting to be wanted, but from being owned #prellerinmyhead
Senga met with the Padres 2-3 weeks before signing with the Mets. Turner was said to be looking at East coast teams all along. Judge resigned with the most hallowed team in all of sports. The only one of those signings that really surprised me was the Senga signing as I was hoping Darvish being around may have been the sweetener.
When will the Padres fire sale begin? Just like last time.
Never. The Padres are making enough money to field a $270 million CBT payroll for a few years and if they continue to make the playoffs they will reap the added revenue teams get for doing that. .
At some point it collapses.
This has been done before with mid and small market owners that though they could spend with the high rollers.
Cohen is bluffing in every free agent negotiation. Like poker, he is bluffing each hand in order to make teams pay more by bidding up the price and to make the pot bigger. This way he tries to get the upper hand by making other team Owners pay more and establish a little more competitive balance.
Driving up the price forces teams to pay more for the purpose of increasing other team’s operational costs, while making it harder for them to add salary during the season while also knowing that in the next few seasons he will have less competition among teams for free agents, which will allow the Mets to get better bargains.
Cohen is increasing the cost to do business in MLB.
Mr. Cohen is surely not bluffing on that.
What I believe he is bluffing on is in saying he’s only spending now until the Mets farm system can get up to speed. I believe the farm system will begin moving young players to the majors, but Mr. Cohen will still set new highs whenever he wants a player….particularly veteran pitchers.
In fact, if Shohei Ohtani does “test the market” I believe Mr. Cohen blows right past a $50m a year AAV and takes it to $60m.
Guardians had him but Mark Shapiro called on line one and while he had them on hold he brokered a deal on another line. It helps to know Drew Carey.
At this point, it just feels like MLBTR is just trolling the Padres with these posts,
Or MLBTR is trolling the trolls who don’t like that the Padres signed an elite FA shortstop.
@SoCalBrave. You noticed too?
They detect deals and make offers.
Really glad that the 3/58 they reportedly offered was not enough to sign him. Padres have given up enough prospects and draft picks the last 2 seasons.
Time to get some complementary parts from trades or non-QO bound FA and go into the season with what is right now the best team in the NL in terms of WAR.
Preller does not simply fail to sign a player and not leak that he was a finalist for him/offered him more than the team he signed with.
Feel free to reply to my other question to you since you’re up slithering around this site
Feel free t0 admit that the Padres don’t have to trade for players first to be able to sign them later on since they signed Eric Hosmer, Manny Machado and Xander Bogaerts.
What window? The Padres were garb before 2019 and would have been even if they had traded for Manny Machado and Eric Hosmer’s respective last years of club control.
And miss their prime? Manny was 26 when he became a free agent. Hosmer was 28. Both plenty young to, in theory, still have some good years left in them.
you’re garb and an imposter. So teams should never make trades…so stupid
How do you get “Teams should never make trades” from that?
Takes some absolutely ninja logic to arrive at the conclusion of “Teams should never make trades” from what I just said.
But you have to admit, his argument with Bryan c above WAS priceless
I’m just going by YOUR logic Ryambre the fraud.
you obviously lose all credibility when your final point in an argument was that he really didn’t care because he didn’t even watch the game because he was at a concert LOLZ
Man, the fire sale is going to be epic in a few years