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NL West Notes: Padres, Rockies, Tovar, Giants

By Mark Polishuk | February 12, 2023 at 9:00pm CDT

By the 2024 season, the Padres are projected to join the list of teams who pay into Major League Baseball’s revenue-sharing fund, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes.  The list of revenue-sharing payors is mostly comprised by teams in large markets, and though San Diego is only 26th of 30 teams in terms of market size, the Padres’ huge payroll increase over the last few seasons is likely to change their status, based on projected revenues for the 2023 season.  Exact details of the Padres’ spending isn’t known, but the increase in spending has correlating with an increase in sponsorship money and ticket sales at Petco Park.

The huge payrolls aren’t likely to last forever, as Padres CEO Erik Greupner said that “to get to that optimal state in our market, it is going to require a greater contribution coming from our farm system,” so the front office doesn’t have to keep building talent with high-priced acquisitions.  But that said, Gruepner noted that “The ultimate validation involves winning a World Series championship.  So (increasing revenue to this level) is validation insofar as the investment in the team and the investment in the ballpark and the ballpark experience is yielding increased revenue….We’re in the process of making hay while the sun is out to get the very most out of the team that we’re going to have on the field this year and the excitement around it.”

More from around the NL West…

  • Ezequiel Tovar is the Rockies’ top prospect and one of the top minor leaguers in the sport, ranked 17th by Baseball America and 25th by MLB Pipeline in their most recent top-100 rankings.  The 21-year-old made his MLB debut last season and is certainly Colorado’s shortstop of the future, but that future could begin as soon as Opening Day if Tovar establishes himself as a regular.  “I feel all of that but I don’t want to call it pressure, I want to look at it as an opportunity,” Tovar said via translator to Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post.  “I know (Spring Training) is a small window, so I have to compete, I have to earn that position.  I want to do it the same way I did it in the minor leagues.  Enjoy the process and be fearless and compete.  I want to have fun.”  Tovar was promoted to the majors last year despite only five games of Triple-A experience, so it is possible the Rockies might opt to give the youngster a bit more minor league seasoning at the start of the season while Brendan Rodgers remains at shortstop.  However, Tovar is big league-ready at least from a defensive standpoint, as both BA and Pipeline give him a 70-grade in fielding.
  • The Giants entered the offseason looking to upgrade its defense after a poor showing in 2022, yet as Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle notes, not many of the club’s winter moves have provided clear paths to better glovework.  In a sense, there could be some addition by subtraction, as Joc Pederson will now get more time at DH and less time on the grass since Michael Conforto and Mitch Haniger were acquired for corner outfield duty.  As manager Gabe Kapler simply put it, “I think we’re going to have outfielders playing the outfield.  Last year, we had some guys, just because we needed to get some offense in the lineup, playing out there when it wasn’t ideal.”  Both Kapler and Brandon Crawford also believe Crawford can regain his old defensive form at shortstop with a more healthy season, and defensive standout Roberto Perez will be competing for at least a backup catching role after signing a minor league deal.  As Kapler told Slusser and other reporters last week, the Giants are having an open competition at the catcher position, as former Joey Bart seemingly no longer has a claim on the starting role after struggling in 2022.
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Colorado Rockies Notes San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants Brandon Crawford Ezequiel Tovar Joc Pederson Joey Bart Roberto Perez

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Comments

  1. YouPutSnotOnTheBall?

    1 month ago

    If you build it they will come

    Reply
  2. jim-41

    1 month ago

    Thank you Erik Greupner! The Padres ownership shows more concern about putting a winner on the field than Dean Spanos.

    Reply
    • Arnold Ziffel

      1 month ago

      Not to mention Dick Montfort

      Reply
    • Arnold Ziffel

      1 month ago

      Not to mention Dick Montfort.

      Reply
      • Get Off My Mound

        1 month ago

        So nice he said it twice.

        Reply
        • Brew88

          1 month ago

          Not to mention Dick Monfort

    • mrpadre19

      1 month ago

      Jim-41…..Eric Greupner doesn’t have anything to do with Padre ownership spending money……but OK.

      Reply
      • small_market_chub

        1 month ago

        You think the CEO has nothing to do with the Padres payroll?

        Reply
    • mrpadre19

      1 month ago

      Jim-41…why are you thanking Eric Greupner?
      Thank the Owner Peter Seidler

      Reply
      • Brew88

        1 month ago

        Thank them both. The owner provides the $, the CEO oversees the business operations that turn Seidler’s invenstment into profit (doing to in a small market)

        Reply
  3. Seamaholic

    1 month ago

    Padres gonna Marlins-it, or try. Spend to win a series, then take it apart if the revenue doesn’t sustain at the higher level. For the good of the sport, it’s really important that they succeed.

    Reply
    • hiflew

      1 month ago

      Why not? The Padres were doing fire sales since before the Marlins existed or at least when they were infants. Look to the summer of 93 when the Padres sold off Sheffield, McGriff and others. It wasn’t the first fire sale ever, that was probably Oakland in the late 70s, but it seemed to be where the term “fire sale” really started. I

      Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 month ago

      Would be pretty tough to have a fire sale when their top paid players all have full no-trade clauses through 2028 with the exception of Musgrove through 2026.

      Reply
      • bag o ballz

        1 month ago

        it does make it harder but you can get a guy to waive it if you demonstrate that you really aren’t interested in competing in the future

        Reply
        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          1 month ago

          While that’s possible, good luck convincing future free agents to sign with your team when you’re ready to compete again.

        • ck99

          1 month ago

          They rarely walk away when the money is big enough.

      • websoulsurfer

        1 month ago

        I have asked this before but not gotten any answers. Can you name any players with a no trade clause that completely blocked ever being traded for the rest of their contract?

        Reply
  4. DarkSide830

    1 month ago

    no one should pay into the revenue sharing fund because it shouldn’t exist.

    Reply
    • Samuel

      1 month ago

      DarkSide830;

      You are correct.

      All revenues from the 30 teams should be put into a fund and then distributed evenly to the 30 teams.

      No reason to penalize fans in smaller markets because that’s where they live.

      It’s why the NFL is a national sport and MLB is a niche sport.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        1 month ago

        The Kansas City Chiefs just won the Super Bowl.

        They’ve been to the playoff’s the past 8 years. They’ve been to 3 Super Bowls and won 2 of them.

        If they they had to survive on primarily local revenues with maybe 15% more coming from a fund as MLB does it, they could never have kept all their players those years, and surely could not have paid Patrick Mahomes.

        This is why America stops and watches the Super Bowl. TV ratings for the World Series primarily depend on the market size of the 2 teams in the series. In the other markets most of those fans stop following the sport and follow their NFL team. TV ratings don’t lie.

        Reply
        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          Not all of America watched the Super Bowl. I skipped it and watched an old movie I have had on DVR for months. Mr Smith Goes to Washington from 1939. I highly recommended it to anyone. THAT is America, not some football game.

        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          1 month ago

          The NFL does not equally share all of its revenue. National TV revenue maybe but not local revenue. If they did, every franchise would be valued at the exact same price and we know that is not the case.

          The reason why KC and other smaller market teams can compete is due to the salary cap in the NFL, plain & simple. There’s enough TV revenue to make each franchise profitable due to the limit on spending when it comes to salaries. If you want baseball to be as competitive as the NFL, a salary cap (with a floor) would go a long ways towards making that happen.

        • Brew88

          1 month ago

          @hiflew. You mean you’re not a Rhianna fan? Mr Smith is a good one, Instead of the SB we watched Sandlot with our kids

        • DrDan75

          1 month ago

          @hiflew

          I had to work, so no Super Bowl for me. More like “Mr. Smith goes to the hospital.”

        • TuckSD

          1 month ago

          NFL has a salary cap as well as a salary minimum. All teams are spending the same in players. NFL also has a revenue sharing system… do you just make things up?

      • hiflew

        1 month ago

        Exactly. We need to stop looking at teams as individual entities and realize the league as a whole is what’s important. No matter how “valuable” the Yankees are right now, if they weren’t in MLB and became a barnstorming team all that value would be gone. But if the Yankees left MLB, MLB would just put an expansion team in the Bronx and life would go on with a lot of loud dissenters at first that would gradually become silent over time. And I am not just singling out the Yankees, the health of MLB as a whole is more important than ANY franchise. Because without other teams to play, even the mighty Yankees would lose a lot of revenue.

        Reply
      • THEY LIVE!!!

        1 month ago

        The NFL is NOT a sport. It’s entertainment, period.

        Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 month ago

      Or set-up a MLB auditing dept. where findings of unspent revenue-sharing funds and/or draft picks get forfeited.

      Reply
  5. Dread Pirate Roberts

    1 month ago

    Tovar is gonna be a beast, should be a good trade chip in about 4-5 years

    Reply
    • hiflew

      1 month ago

      Na, if he works out Colorado will sign him long term. They have done that with Helton, Tulo, CarGo, Arenado, and Blackmon in the past. All homegrown except CarGo and he was practically homegrown. Rockies lock up their superstars. It’s not like they are the Pirates or something.

      Reply
      • Dread Pirate Roberts

        1 month ago

        Couple of those guys got traded,so yeah he’ll probably sign an extension then get traded lol

        Reply
        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          Only if he is a whiner like Tulo and Arenado.

        • BStrowman

          1 month ago

          Lol god forbid somebody whines because the Rockies are a clueless lost franchise with no direction.

        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          They have never made their decision making a secret. If these guys don’t like the direction, then DON’T SIGN AN EXTENSION with them. Once you sign the extension and then start whining, all it says is that you think you are bigger than the team. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          YEAH! If you don’t like the losing in Colorado, go win someplace else.

    • HBan22

      1 month ago

      Tovar might end up being a better all around SS than Tulowitzki.

      Reply
      • hiflew

        1 month ago

        I’ll believe that when I see it. He could, but he could also end up like Neifi Perez as well. Or even worse. I hope he ends up as an MVP-type player like prime Tulo, but I don’t believe in putting those types of expectations on prospects. You are just asking to be disappointed.

        Reply
  6. hiflew

    1 month ago

    Tovar didn’t look bad in September for the Rockies. The numbers weren’t there, but he did not look overwhelmed in the least.

    I don’t think there is any chance whatsoever that Brendan Rodgers moves to SS though. First, he is a GG second baseman, so why would mess with success? Second, the reason he became a GG second baseman is because he didn’t really have the arm or range at short.

    If Tovar proves unready or gets hurt or something, my money is on a reunion with Jose Iglesias or some other veteran stopgap like Escobar or Gregorius or Gordon.

    Reply
  7. RockiesFan75

    1 month ago

    San Diego is the 17th largest metro area by population in the US. How are they the 26th smallest market?

    Reply
    • hiflew

      1 month ago

      Because different people use different qualifications when determining market size. It’s another example of maneuvering statistics to fit your argument.

      Reply
      • websoulsurfer

        1 month ago

        Not true hiflew. MLB defines market size by Nielsen DMA rankings which counts TV households and they have used that measure since the late 1980s. The reason is that TV pays most of the bills in baseball and DMA rankings tells you how many TV households are in a market.

        Reply
        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          Yes MLB does. But other people that like to make arguments about market size use different data.

        • pdxbrewcrew

          1 month ago

          Only stupid people do that. It’s MARKET size, and that is determined by the television MARKET.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          None of those other people matter. MLB matters when it comes to MLB teams.

    • websoulsurfer

      1 month ago

      27th because population doesn’t define market size. Number of TV households does.

      Reply
    • Javia135

      1 month ago

      Everyone in Colorado roots for the Rockies, along with many people from Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas and possibly New Mexico because they are the closest team. Your market is several whole states. The Padres? San Diego. There is nothing East until you hit Arizona. They are Diamondbacks fans. West is the Pacific. It is on the border of Mexico to the South and both Anaheim and Los Angeles border it to the North. San Diego city and parts of Tijuana are the Padres entire market.

      Reply
      • hiflew

        1 month ago

        Words like “everyone” is why I don’t trust market data assumptions. The Diamondbacks didn’t exist before 1998. I am sure that some Arizonans were Padres fans before that date and stayed Padres fans after the D-Backs came to be. You don’t give up your team just because a new team is closer. I live in Kentucky and I am a Rockies fan. There are lots of Cubs fans in Colorado, I see them on TV every time the Cubs visit. Same with the Cardinals. Geography is not how “everyone” makes their decision.

        Reply
        • gwynngwyn

          1 month ago

          That’s anecdotal. Reach of households and therefore subscribers and marketing reach define market size and earning potential. There are always exceptions and anecdotes.

      • TuckSD

        1 month ago

        True but it’s the entire county not the city itself

        Reply
        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The DMA includes all of SD county. That DMA is the 27th largest in the nation.

    • TuckSD

      1 month ago

      They’re the 8th largest city in America

      Reply
      • websoulsurfer

        1 month ago

        Which means diddlysquat when it comes to the #1 source of revenue in baseball, TV.

        Reply
  8. brucenewton

    1 month ago

    Gmen staring down an easy 100 L’s. It will be ugly.

    Reply
    • gfan

      1 month ago

      Only in your gloomy crystal ball.

      Reply
    • AndyWarpath

      1 month ago

      Yea no one things that bud. Maybe not a championship club, but no evidence the teams going to recede by 20+ wins this year.

      Reply
    • Scottn59c

      1 month ago

      It won’t be that bad. They should be good for a mediocre 3rd or 4th place finish in the NL West. .500 or thereabouts.

      Reply
    • DanUgglasRing

      1 month ago

      They could win 90 with that club and it wouldn’t be shocking.

      Reply
    • John Bird

      1 month ago

      Latest Zips projection has the Giants at 85 wins.

      Reply
      • websoulsurfer

        1 month ago

        Las Vegas has the Dodgers at 96.5 wins, the Padres at 93.5 wins, and the Giants at 80.5 wins. Historically they are much more accurate than Zips

        Reply
        • John Bird

          1 month ago

          I agree that ZIPS is low on the LA and SD. But coming off 81 wins with the marginal improvements SF made, I think 83 to 85 seems about right.

  9. Old timer 78

    1 month ago

    Thanks to Dean Spanos the Friars are the only Game on Town. It is the 8th Largest Market in US. Add on the Mexican Border Towns for more Revenue.

    Reply
    • websoulsurfer

      1 month ago

      Its the 27th largest market in the US. Its the 8th most populous metro area. There is a huge difference.

      Reply
  10. foppert

    1 month ago

    Pederson seems to have spent some time replacing the moon face with one that has a jawline. The call from Kapler to get more athletic might have been taken on board by Joc. Good to see. If he ends up spending time in the outfield out there, I’d expect a better showing.

    Reply
  11. KHE

    1 month ago

    The Giants have Tunnel Vision. They focus on Only one player at a time and don’t look around for back up Options incase what ever player signs elsewhere. They didn’t do squat this past offseason. They are going to be cellar dwellars. Especially after all this bloated hot air about we were going to sign, Judge, then Correa, then oops everyone else got snatched up before they could sneeze. Then he goes back to his usual self of signing injured players instead of players who actually might help us. He’s the same ole song and dance. Time for a New GM that knows what the Hell the Team needs are and go out and sign some decent players. Zaidi is a Joke in sheeps clothing !!

    Reply
    • foppert

      1 month ago

      They did plenty. Just didn’t do what you wanted them to do. Suck it up, Princess.

      Reply

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