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Mets Interested In Luis Severino

By Mark Polishuk | November 18, 2023 at 4:05pm CDT

Luis Severino’s trip through free agency could lead him to another New York borough, as the former Yankees right-hander has gotten some interest from the Mets, The Athletic’s Will Sammon reports.  Mets officials are planning a meeting with the 29-year-old to explore the possibility of a deal between the two sides.

A reunion with the Yankees doesn’t appear to be happening for Severino, but at least eight teams were known to have some level of interest in the two-time All-Star.  It’s probably safe to guess that an even higher number will at least check in before the offseason is over, given the widespread need for pitching around the league and Severino’s potential as a reclamation project.

Severino’s career got off to such a promising start that the Yankees signed him to a four-year, $40MM extension prior to the 2019 season, a rare move for a team that usually doesn’t explore contract extensions on general principal.  Unfortunately for the Yankees, they perhaps should’ve stuck to their policy in this case, as Severino’s career went into a tailspin due to injuries.  He pitched only 18 total big league innings from 2019-21, primarily due to Tommy John surgery but with shoulder, lat, and groin problems also contributing to those three lost years.

More lat injuries limited Severino’s availability in 2022, but he at least returned to pitch 102 innings and post a 3.18 ERA, so the Bombers exercised their $15MM club option on the righty’s services for 2023.  This was another transaction that backfired, as Severino again battled injuries (an oblique strain and another lat strain) en route to a 6.65 ERA in 89 1/3 frames.

In all likelihood, Severino and his agents at Rep 1 Baseball will be aiming for a one-year contract this winter.  (MLBTR projected him for a one-year, $14MM pact.). This would allow Severino to re-enter the market next winter, theoretically after he has enjoyed the type of healthy and productive season that would serve as a better platform for a pricey multi-year commitment.  As noted earlier, many teams would be fits for Severino, and his willingness to take a one-year deal would open the door to offers from both big spenders and smaller-market clubs.

This means that in lieu of a bidding war based purely on money, Severino might prioritize environment and an organization with a track record of rejuvenating pitchers’ careers.  The Mets themselves don’t have that kind of reputation, but new president of baseball operations David Stearns is coming from a Brewers team that had a knack for developing and finding plenty of hidden-gem arms over the years.  Heading to Queens would also allow Severino to remain in New York, and once again play for Carlos Mendoza, as the new Mets skipper spent the previous six seasons on the Yankees’ coaching staff.

Kodai Senga and Jose Quintana are the only locks for the Amazins rotation in 2024, so it isn’t any surprise that the Mets are looking to acquire at least two more arms to a staff that also has Tylor Megill, Jose Butto, Joey Lucchesi, and (after a midseason return from hip surgery) David Peterson in the mix for starts.  Severino may not be the most stable of options given his long injury history, yet with the Mets willing to spend at high end of the market, the team has the flexibility to pursue both frontline arms and slightly lower-cost fliers like Severino.

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  1. Bill M

    2 years ago

    Headline should read, “Mets shopping in bargain bin.”

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      One thing we can’t accuse the Mets of is being cheap. They paid for the most expensive losing team in the history of the sport. It’s refreshing to see them take a step back and retool. As a fan of a division rival, I will say Cohen’s willingness to do this is more frightening than him just trying to buy everyone.

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      • WiffleBall

        2 years ago

        He will still try to buy everyone. His GM just picked the wrong people before.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          I think he won’t buy everyone. He will definitely overspend but I think he will have a better idea so he doesn’t end up like last year.

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      • mlb fan

        2 years ago

        Everybody that has weak takes accuses EVERY single owner in MLB of being “cheap”. You certainly cannot call a guy who ran the highest payroll in MLB history “cheap”.

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        • rundmc1981

          2 years ago

          Guys not cheap, just has no taste, much like former Marlins-owning art magnate and Miami-duper: Jeffrey Loria with his CF monstrosity.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          2 years ago

          mlb – Ever heard the term “That was then, this is now”.

          I’m not saying it applies now to the Mets, it’s way too early to know yet.

          But owners can and have gone from big spenders to cheap. John Henry is a perfect example of that, which is why Dombrowski left.

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        • CleaverGreene

          2 years ago

          Dombroski left after leaving the farm high and dry….as is ususual.

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      • DannyDimes2023

        2 years ago

        Who says they are taking a step back?

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          2 years ago

          Danny – Cohen said so a few months ago.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          Yeah, but even “a step back” in comparison to their spending last season could still be a ton of money.

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      • Mrivers

        2 years ago

        Good point.
        Mets ’23 failure on Eppler, really. Spending 80+ mil on 2 aging SPs, one of whom has been injured and regressing for a while now, was idiocy.
        With Stearns making decisions, should spend.

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        • JackStrawb

          2 years ago

          @kevins It’s well understood Cohen played GM the past three years. The foolish lurch after Lindor when they had Giminez for 2% the salary, the $300m lunge after Correa as Cohen suddenly decides the Mets are 5 wins short, the belated grabs for the most expensive pitchers on the market in Bauer, Scherzer, Verlander rather than fleshing out the rotation with far younger pitchers than the latter two and at half the price… Eppler even admitted he had to go to Cohen to get permission to cut, get this, Darin Ruf of all people during 2023 Spring Training.

          So… we’ll see.

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      • Yanks2

        2 years ago

        Yeah but it’s still pathetic to try and just buy your way to a championship

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    • D2323

      2 years ago

      The Mets have 2 starters. They weren’t going to sign 3 aces this offseason they need back of the rotation help, so a lower cost starter makes perfect sense. No matter what the Mets do everyone has some stupid smart ass remark.

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        2 years ago

        @D2323

        I’m a fan of a division rival but you are definitely right about the pitching. No one should expect any team to fix the majority of their rotation with 3 top of the rotation arms in a single off-season. Some buy low and hope to fix projects seems necessary and maybe grab one top free agent pitcher.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          I think some of these “fans of a division rival” are underestimating what the Mets are going to do this offseason.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          I think a lot of Mets need to lower their expectations, although Yamamoto is definitely a possibility.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          I simply get the feeling you and others are underestimating what the Mets plan on doing because you know that they can out spend your team. Which I find kinda funny since the Phillies have been trying to buy a championship themselves.

          The league needs a salary cap and floor. Buying a championship is lame.

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        • marcfrombrooklyn

          2 years ago

          There will never be a salary cap because the players association will never agree to it. The owners won’t agree to a floor without a cap. And we won’t get what I want, more revenue sharing among the teams to even out the market differences because the owners, particularly the high-revenue teams that are already hiding income through creative accounting (“That’s not broadcast revenue. We’re just licensing our trademarks to the regional sports network we partially own..”), don’t want it. So, the only hope is that more low-revenue teams follow the Rays’ and pre-tanking A’s leads and find creative ways to win, though that is limited since the high-revenue teams (maybe not the Angels) will learn to do the same creativity.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          You don’t know what will happen in the future. A cap and a floor is in everyone’s best interest except the big market teams and there are more small market teams than there are big market teams.

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        • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

          2 years ago

          @joel p

          So you think the Mets are going to sign 3 top of the rotation arms this off-season? Give me a break, I was trying to be nice because people always crap on the Mets one way or the other. Cohen told Max and JV before trading them that they viewed 2024 as a retooling year. Whether he was just giving them lip service or not I’m not sure. But I do know that it’s been reported that the Mets aren’t going after Shohei Ohtani and the front office has said before they are looking toward 2025. Of course they are going to sign some players, I see them getting one of the top arms and a nice bat and that’s a very good Off-season for any franchise, let alone a “re-tooling” one. Temper your expectations, grabbing three top of the rotation arms is unrealistic at this point. I was applauding the Mets for taking a step back and not blowing their load in one off-season. Take the compliment you dick.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          No. I’m literally stating the opposite; expressing that Cohen’s willingness to pivot makes them a legitimate threat. I thought he was a bit foolish at the start of 23, but clearly he’s surrounding himself with smart baseball people and the team will be better for it. I think this absolutely a slight retool, but the Mets will be contenders soon. I disagree about spending to win being lame though. Baseball is so much better now that multiple teams are willing to spend big. It used to just be the Yankees. Now it’s most of the league. Look at Texas. All these owners can afford to splurge, and it’s nice to finally see a chunk of them doing just that.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          You heard the words “retooling year” and ran with it. Why? Because you cheer for a rival team that’s why. And that’s kinda lame.

          I am not a Mets fan btw. I think it’s lame how Cohen showed up and tried to buy a championship. But the Phillies have been doing that the last few years too. The Braves have some great contracts but their payroll is getting out of control. And I think it’s lame how fans act of these teams how they act as if it’s their birthright for their team to have a 250 million dollar payroll. That’s not what sports are supposed to be about this isn’t college football.

          I bet the Mets sign Yamamoto. And a lot more.

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        • User 4245925809

          2 years ago

          Just like in the real world, companies which cannot operate without a free handout fold and just go away joelp. Something that is point #1 to be said for those constantly wanting to add more teams when there are already half a dozen (or more) in locations that cannot stand on their own without handouts from other teams.

          Blame it (falsely) on the old standby many use of hiding money.. which is hardly ever proven in any company, or the antitrust exemption, which is hogwash also..

          Simple fact is half a dozen+ teams cannot sell enough tickets and have awful media deals which do not pay them enough to survive without handouts and last time looked? his league isn’t a socialist entity, nor this country, but free market capitalist.

          Why so many cannot get these simple facts through their colledctive minds is beyond belief. It’s how this country has worked since tossing out the Brits over 200y ago.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          Baseball has a select few teams trying to spend to win and that’s it. And yeah that’s lame man. It’s cool for you as a Phillies fan but it’s not good for the game. 8 teams acting like the Yankees instead of 1 really isn’t progress. Like I said in the last post this feels like college football. And I can’t stand college football…..

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          This isn’t real world capitalism here. There are 30 teams and they all need each other. And real world capitalism is a fraud anyways but we don’t need to get into that.

          Baseball is lame. Where are all the Pirates fans? They barely exist. Why? Because their team has no legit chance and if that’s the case why watch? That’s lame.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          This is just incorrect. We’ve seen an almost league-wide increase in spending outside of rebuilding teams and the usual cheap teams. We’ve seen this increase have a direct impact on winning. The 2022 NL playoff teams directly corresponded to the top payrolls. 2023 saw some variation with Arizona getting in and the Mets and Padres not making it. There’s not 1 or 2 teams trying to spend big. Multiple teams surpassed the luxury tax for the first time ever in the last few years. Now I’m not saying that teams should do this all the time, but for one think baseball is much more balanced now than it was in the 90s. There are multiple “super teams” not just 1 or 2. I did not find the Rangers championship run lame in at all.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          The idea that the Pirates can’t spend and are somehow disadvantaged is false. I’m not saying they should be blowing through the luxury tax, but they aren’t spending as nuch as they could or should. I find that far more “lame” than what the Texas Rangers just did.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          The Rangers signed Seager and Stroman to ridiculous deals that are destined to turn out bad. They traded away many guys at the deadline from their farm system. And lets not forget that just last year they were terrible. They picked what 3rd in the last draft?

          I am happy for the Rangers because they won their first championship ever. Heck I was happy for the Astros a while back too. But now the Astros spend like crazy and other teams simply can’t or won’t compete.

          Sports are supposed to be about fair competition. The only people who like this are fans from teams who spend too much.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          I said cap and floor dude. Do you know what a salary floor is? It’s what would make the Pirates spend money. Cap and floor are both needed. Not just one but both.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          I disagree. Why should I share what I have? Woukd you agree to that in your job? I don’t think so. The Yankees spend a lot because they take a lot. Their revenue stream is so good that, relative to their capabilities, they may not even actually be spending more. Relative being the key word there.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          Why should the owners collect all the profit? A salary cap is not needed. Owners who want to win and not see this as a business are the best Why should guys like that be penalized? a cap will only put more $$ in the owner’s coffers.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          Well, I think it’s lame how often you use the term “lame”…

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          0I bet you’re a real hit at parties Mr Negative.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          I agree with much of what you’re saying Von
          This is a sport. Yes it’s also a business, bit if owners aren’t in. this for the right reasons then they should sell. Of course they could all spend more. Sure, the revenues aren’t equal, bit are you in favor of Communist countries? How well does that sharing of the wealth work out for the working man in Russia, for ex?.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          Sure, most of thee long-terms deals result in pain near the end. But as they say, flags fly forever. I, for one, applaud owners like the Rangers owners for trying to win. Look, deGrom didn’t even really pitch last year so they didn’t just buy a title.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Sure. That would be fantastic, but it’s idealistic nonsense. The player’s union is too strong to ever allow for a cap, and cheap owners would never agree to a floor. And really, I don’t think it would change much. Cheap owners would stick to the floor. Others would splurge to the cap.

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          I cN read Sherlock. But is the distance between the floor and middle be equal to the distance between the top and middle? If so, the end result is that all teams are on equal footing..And what I’m saying is, if I owned the Yankees or some other big market club, I’m already contributing via profit sharing g as well as the Luxury tax. Hey, I make more revenue than you do, but that’s part of why I paid more when I purchases the franchise. I’m not a Yankees fan either.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          Why would you get so defensive about something like this? It’s……lame……..

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          MRtHOF

          Not signing Ohtani becuase you’re retooling is a fail

          If you sign him it’s for a decade plus (minus any opt outs). And he’s the beset player on the planet.

          If you can sign him, you sign him.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          js

          Hoo boy! What a taek

          Revenue sharing isn’t socialism. I swear, instead of the stupid Pledge of Allegiance, kids should have recited the definition of what socialism is and isn’t every day before class (Along with what free speech is and isn’t).

          Saying revenue sharing is socialism is like saying that one WalMart giving another one money to shut down the mom and pop store on the corner is socialsim.

          Sorry the spectre has gotten you all shook up

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          rtc

          Because sharing is caring

          Sharing provides better outcomes.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          rtc

          “:0I bet you’re a real hit at parties ”

          Always the insult that’s actually the biggest self-own

          If your parties are like the MLBTR comment section…well…we’ll never be at the same parties.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          RE rtc

          “How well does that sharing of the wealth work out for the working man in Russia, for ex?.”

          This guy thinks Russia is a communist country. The US education system is a disaster.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          VPH

          “And really, I don’t think it would change much. Cheap owners would stick to the floor. Others would splurge to the cap.”

          That would depend where the cap and floor were

          If the floor were $150 million and the cap $200 million, it’d make a difference.

          NOTE: A salary cap is a horrible idea. Just like with society, the best way to even things out is to tax the [heck] out of the rich.

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        • SgtGrumbles

          2 years ago

          Nothing they have done so far has made me hopeful to even be entertained in ‘24. Severino or any other reclamation project is fine because every team needs depth and it might work out for ‘24. However, it won’t help for ‘25-‘27, the expected new competition window. I feel the Mets made the correct hard choice to sell this past year but passionate and reasonable fans should see reasons to buy into the future so we can put up with the current roster.

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        • Joel P

          2 years ago

          Yes Filihok correct. These teams are competing on the field but they are all working together, or at least they are supposed to be. If half the franchises in baseball go under there wouldn’t be a league. The big market teams need the small market teams. Not just to beat up on.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          How are they going to turn out bad? They are only signed until their age 37 seasons. They just won a World Series and Sea get put up a monster year. Their contracts could be bargains by time their done.

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        • mlb fan

          2 years ago

          “There will never be a salary cap”..Why do people not consider the CBT a “salary cap”?..It’s whole purpose is to suppress salaries so it’s essentially a “salary cap” by another name. ALL major sports have some sort of cap or restrictions on salaries paid out.

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      • Astros2017&22Champs

        2 years ago

        Why is this a stupid remark? Luis severino has shown that he will never pitch a full season ever again. Any team that gives this guy money is wasting it. He’s a tantalizing power pitcher that simply can’t stay healthy. Yankees are literally adding by subtracting

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          Astros Champ

          “Why is this a stupid remark? ”

          Because you are saying something unknowable with certainty

          That’s stupid

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        • D2323

          2 years ago

          because his remark had nothing to do with severino and his health or future and was just a mindless “lol mets” comment. if the news was different and about Mets signing Yamamoto,Snell, and Gray, the party line would be “lol mets trying to buy wins” but it was about Mets going for someone cheap so the comment was “lol mets bargain shopping.” it added nothing to the discussion, no analysis no nothing just a guy making smart ass comments about his favorite punching bag.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          Astros Champ

          It’s also a stupid remark because you’re simultaneously saying the Mets are cheap and are overpaying for Severino.

          Also stupid

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        • Roll

          2 years ago

          “Why is this a stupid remark? Luis severino has shown that he will never pitch a full season ever again. Any team that gives this guy money is wasting it. He’s a tantalizing power pitcher that simply can’t stay healthy. Yankees are literally adding by subtracting”

          just throwing this out there …. replace Severino with Brantley and pitch with bat then pay him more and it is pretty much the same idea no? only difference is they are going after him in his late 30’s rather the late 20’s

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      • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

        2 years ago

        A Taijuan Walker reunion, anyone? He won 15 games for the Phillies last year but was totally snubbed in the playoffs. Tells me the Phillies ain’t happy they signed him.

        Walker did well with the Mets. Better home park for him than CBP in Philly. Walker for McNeil?

        Mets need a SP, and the Phillies could make good use of McNeil’s versatility.

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      • JackStrawb

        2 years ago

        @D2323 Except Severino isn’t a ‘back of the rotation’ guy—he’s a 15-20 starts a year guy with a ton of upside (3.10 ERA fr 2017-2022). Two key points:

        1) the Mets will really benefit from a 6-man rotation even if they don’t sign another Japanese pitcher, let alone both, particularly if they’re aiming for 85 wins and the third wildcard slot and want three starters left alive for October.

        2) in Butto and Lucchesi they have two respectable guys (two and a half if you include Megill, two and three-quarters if you include Peterson) they can patch and fill around Severino’s health problems.

        —I just hope this isn’t the plan to fill the 5th rotation slot since it’s likely to end up as the 4th rotation slot. If worse / riskier / less durable pitchers are making 30 starts behind Severino / Butto / Lucchesi in the 5-hole, it’s going to be ugly.

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      Meh, it’s a retooling year for them anyway.

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    • Deadguy

      2 years ago

      Yankees ruined this guy? 2019? 3 regular season starts then 2 starts in the postseason where he threw 4 innings? It’s hard being a baseball fan sometimes? Alex Reyes had all the same problems….

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    • Captain-Judge99

      2 years ago

      It would be a excellent signing for the Mets. Low risk/high reward type. I think Sevvy rebounds from last year, and has a great season.

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      • Deadguy

        2 years ago

        It would be awesome to see him rebound. I was thrilled to finally see Alex Reyes close games effective and efficiently… but that only lasted for a while?

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    • Mrivers

      2 years ago

      They obviously need more than Severino, who was horrifically bad last season. The rest are a bunch of #5s at best.
      It’s a start, I guess.

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      • JackStrawb

        2 years ago

        @kevins True, but if you’re aiming for 162 starts and impute Severino’s 2023 collapse to a one-time injury, then getting him on a one-year platform deal in hopes of getting some of his 2017-22 back might well be an acceptable risk.

        What bothers me, though, is how many starts the Mets need to buy in free agency. Their interest in Severino gives off a faint whiff of ‘we’re going to try to buy 70 starts on the cheap to piece in around Senga, Quintana, and the one frontline starter we’ll add in FA.’ That’s a lot of bad / uncertain pitching.

        Severino after all is a very iffy pitcher. He may give you 100 innings, but they may be horrible innings. He may not pitch much at all. They may be nibbling until they can get a better look at his medical records. But the 2024 Mets need certainty from a lot of the money they’ll be spending on pitching for 2024, and Severino ain’t it.

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  2. wvsteve

    2 years ago

    Over and under somebody signs before thanksgiving

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    • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

      2 years ago

      I say one big free agent and one middle of the pack guy. Hopefully soon, bland off-season this far but it’s early yet.

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    • Simm

      2 years ago

      I say none of the big ones will sign before thanksgiving. The week after is when the market will pick up

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        2 years ago

        Yeah you may be right, for entertainments sake I hope we get one this week though.

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        2 years ago

        1 big Free agent-check, 1 middle size size free agent incoming soon hopefully. Lucky guess lol

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  3. YankeesBleacherCreature

    2 years ago

    I think a $14MM base is a little high with his health uncertainties. Something more like $10MM base plus incentives up to $7MM and a guaranteed rotation spot would be a more palatable risk. With that said, I think Sevy has the stuff to be a good closer if he’s willing.

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    • Ma4170

      2 years ago

      Thats an interesting idea. Unfortunately the mets are probably looking at him for a back end sp spot, but the RP option intrigues me more.

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      No team with sense, though, is going to give a ‘guaranteed rotation spot’ to Severino, given even Severino has no idea when and if he can pitch. If he’s pitching as in 2023 he won’t make it to the mound in MLB. If he’s pitching to a projectable 6+ ERA again they’ll either shut him down or keep him in Syracuse. These aren’t the Cohen-Eppler Mets or the Cohen-Alderson Mets.

      If he’s pitching as he did in 2023 Severino will about as bad as Carrasco was. No team that’s remotely well run tolerates that nonsense, especially w/ a guy who’ll be a FA the following year.

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  4. In nurse follars

    2 years ago

    Not our money. Why should we care? Well, because the money comes from somewhere and if its from game tickets a nurse cannot afford or a tv package a nurse cannot afford then a nurse really cannot be a fan anymore i guess.

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    • Insert Shrug Emoji

      2 years ago

      It also impacts x-ray Technicians, dental hygienists, and receptionists at proctologist offices

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    • filihok

      2 years ago

      The nurse should probably take an econ course

      Note: I know nurses don’t have free time

      Ticket prices aren’t high because players get paid a lot. Players get paid a lot because people spend a lot of money on baseball.

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      • Dotnet22

        2 years ago

        Yep, if the players got paid minimum wage tickets would still be $120…..stop being deliberately obtuse. It’s not the only reason but it’s a contributing factor.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          Dn

          “Yep, if the players got paid minimum wage tickets would still be $120…..stop being deliberately obtuse. It’s not the only reason but it’s a contributing factor.”

          Uhhh…they would

          Why would a company charge $100 for their product if people were willing to pay $120?

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      @In nurse follars We also care or find it interesting because (say) 1om guaranteed to Severino is 10m not spent elsewhere. We discovered even Cohen has limits, so in its way this is similar to the $87m intended for Scherzer and Verlander in 2023.

      Had the Mets had an actual plan, an $87m AAV since Cohen bought the team buys you four Cy Young candidates rather than two ancient horses who even if their regular seasons were good enough to carry the team to the postseason, would almost certainly be cooked by the end of September and of limited / no value in the postseason itself.

      $10m for Severino isn’t bad if the Mets are aiming for a 6-man rotation with the #6 spot to include Severino, Lucchesi, and Butto.

      If on the other hand they want Severino to take the #4 slot and are planning once again on a combination of Lucchesi, Butto, Megill, and eventually Peterson for the #5 slot…. Ugh.

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  5. filihok

    2 years ago

    Dodgers too

    In free agency I will take

    1 Ohtani
    1 Sonny Gray
    1 Severino
    And a Michael Brantley

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  6. Flanster

    2 years ago

    I think that he could be a nice bounce-back option

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      @Flanster Sure, but does he make sense for the Mets? :0)

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  7. mlb fan

    2 years ago

    The Tampa Tays will have this guy, Severino”, as the starting pitcher in the All Star game.

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    • Dotnet22

      2 years ago

      I think the Rampa Rays will get him.

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  8. Simm

    2 years ago

    I doubt he signs until all the better options are off the board. He will wait for team that gets desperate at the end.

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  9. NYMETSHEA

    2 years ago

    Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Luis Severino, and relievers is all I ask.

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    • raisinsss

      2 years ago

      Are we riding with Baty, Vientos, Mauricio?

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      • Ma4170

        2 years ago

        I think they’ll either ride w mauricio or trade him. I personally think they should go w baty and vientos to see if they adjust. Baty has always been touted and has clear talent, but seemed to struggle mentally at times. Vientos has generally needed time to adjust as he graduated levels in milb, and his improvement in sept showed maybe he’s beginning to acclimate. I don’t see a point in bringing in a veteran FA in what clearly seems like a reset year.

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        • JackStrawb

          2 years ago

          @Ma4170 Trading the only guy on the roster who can play 3B is interesting.

          Neither Baty nor Vientos can play 3B. They can’t do it. And if we don’t cherrypick Vientos’ numbers (no offense intended) his improvement in Sept was trivial. Sept 6-Oct 1 his line was .207/.235/.390/.626. Aka awful.

          If the Mets sign no one they project to roughly 68-70 wins. If they make a run for Yamamoto, who makes mores sense for them than anyone else given his age and how that and his skills translate to any scenario the Mets take including branching ones where they succeed / fail in 2024, they project for 72-74 wins. They’ll still need two SP, at least. Do you now try to build for 85 wins given the road the third wildcard offers to the postseason, or do you try to sign Yamamoto telling him that you’re only aiming for 75-78 wins in 2024, something that probably precludes his signing with you if he’s even considering doing so currently?

          The Mets road to contending in 2024 is incredibly expensive given their payroll for LT purposes is already over $270 million. Might we see something horrifying like this?

          Senga-Montgomery-Quintana-Severino-Lucchesi / Vasil / Hamil / Scott

          Nimmo
          McNeil LF
          Lindor
          Alonso
          DJ Stewart / Marte
          Mauricio 2B
          Alvarez
          Baty 3B
          Vientos DH

          Diaz-Raley-Smith-5 more guys
          No-name bench

          —-We might see something a lot like that if this really is a ‘pausing’ year.

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        • Ma4170

          2 years ago

          I wouldnt make the assumption that they wont improve – I would actually lean more toward some improvement from them. I think mauricio has trade value and hence why he might be moved if they can get a quality sp. i don’t think signing a JD martinez type for a year or two does much to attract yamamoto in 2024 or even help them more than a few wins. Money and a strong farm would probably be more attractive. We’ll see, but giving up on the prospects already seems short sighted to me.

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  10. Saint Nick

    2 years ago

    I would not be comfortable signing Severino for anything more than a minor league deal.

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    • mlb fan

      2 years ago

      Guys that still throw 97 mph when they stink, are most likely gonna get a major league deal. I’m usually pretty conservative on high risk deals, but I think I’d take a 10M flyer on Luis Severino. On a 1 yr deal, Severino is just too enticing to resist.

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    • filihok

      2 years ago

      SN

      Well, I’ll take the over on Severino signing a minor league deal this year

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      • Saint Nick

        2 years ago

        I will too. Somebody will pay him.

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  11. Motor City Beach Bum

    2 years ago

    If he wants a good pitching coach to fix his issues, Detroit is a good landing spot for him.

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  12. Shadow_Banned

    2 years ago

    Hahah of course they would. It is the Mets after all. Paying cherry Red lips Lindor premium salary for that smile. Now they wanna sign Injuredino ahh Mets

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  13. 10centBeerNight

    2 years ago

    They need at least 2 SP. Shooting high on trade and FA arms a wise plan, but NYM should let these position player prospects show themselves. ATL and PHI still significantly better teams. You won’t equal them overnight.

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      @10centBeerNight The Mets really do need to add at least 4 starting pitchers.

      Senga and Quintana project for fewer than 50 starts. That leaves at least 112 to go. If you get 28 starts from each of four pitchers, that’s the missing 112, but you’re unlikely to get 28 starts from four FA starters.

      A lot depends on where they think Hamil, Vasil, and Scott are in their development, whether they think those three and Peterson coming back from injury are likely to offer MLB=caliber starting pitching (say a 90 ERA+), particularly after the ASB after they’ve seen where they are in the first half.

      Maybe they scrimp, or maybe Severino’s the guy they think fits well with their scrum of Hamil, Vasil, Scott, Lucchesi, Butto, Peterson, and Megill in the “#6 slot and long relief” category such that they can use a 6-man rotation with ample padding in case of injury to the front five.

      How good is Stearns? We’ll find out a lot about that this offseason. It’s a pity he thinks he’s dealing with nuclear secrets. I much prefer a GM / PBOPs with the confidence and chops to tell fans as much as they can without giving away positions, rather than telling fans as little as they can, which seems to be Stearns’ approach.

      —-fwiw, the Mets don’t need to equal ATL and PHI—they just need to make the last wildcard slot. Cheers,

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  14. LFGMets (Metsin7) #FireCarlosMendoza&DrewSmith

    2 years ago

    I don’t mind them picking up Severino but he is always hurt. I’d be good with a 1 year 8 mil deal with a club option for 15 million for year 2. That would be fair for both sides

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  15. cmessick2080

    2 years ago

    Fragile proceed with caution.

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  16. RobM

    2 years ago

    Probably worth an upside play, but doubt he can give more than 100 innings in 2024. Question is, will they be bad 2023 Severino innings, or good 2018 Severino innings, the last time he was good with any significant volume? Six years is a long time in baseball.

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  17. dave frost nhlpa

    2 years ago

    Glad to see the Thriftpons are back. Double coupon week.

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    • Roll

      2 years ago

      damn being called thrifty while still paying out more than anyone …

      i guess we can go for cheers for some of the other bigger payrolls

      lets go ny discountees …the boston cheap sox… the la discounters … the philly reducies … the san diego pennies.

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  18. losrojos

    2 years ago

    If you’re looking to fill out your IL he’s your guy

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  19. Mikenmn

    2 years ago

    One thing I’d like MLBTR to do is to factor in CBT penalties when they identifying paying teams as possible suitors for a player. It’s going to cost the Mets more than a team under the cap for the same player. How much could play a role in his contract and in the bidding generally.

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  20. JayRyder

    2 years ago

    1 year five mil ? 8 mil ?

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    • mlb fan

      2 years ago

      Didn’t rebuild project Noah Syndagaard get 13 M from the Dodgers last yr?

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      • JackStrawb

        2 years ago

        Yup, which was a little odd, given that Syndergaard went 10-10 in 2022 with a 3.94 ERA and a 3.83 FIP in 134 innings. I think the extremely low K rate alarmed suitors.

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  21. Wheeler Dealer

    2 years ago

    Teams should steer clear

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    • mlbnyyfan

      2 years ago

      Good Riddance Sevy. Good luck somewhere else

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  22. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    2 years ago

    Mets should sign Nola and Montgomery. Both are durable. Neither is an ace in the parlance of, say, a Tom Seaver. However, both are solid #2 types, and that’s darn good.

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  23. Seaver rules

    2 years ago

    Mets will sign Yamamoto, Soler, 3-4 RP and trade for Cease. They should give Senzel a shot. It’s low risk. Mauricio and Vientos to Chisox.

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  24. Old York

    2 years ago

    Might as well take a flyer on him. Up until 2019, he had really decent numbers but fell off the radar after that. Don’t expect Cy Young performance but probably a decent 3-4 guy in the rotation.

    Career GB% of 45.3% and career kwERA of approximately 3.125, the calculated GBkwERA is approximately 4.26.

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  25. Melchez17

    2 years ago

    Please don’t call them the “Amazins”. Do you call the Reds the “Big Red Machine”? The Red Sox the “Cardiac Kids”? The A’s the “The Swingin A’s”? The Phillies the “Whiz Kids”?
    The Amazins was the Championship team of ’69

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  26. Canosucks

    2 years ago

    The actors change but the stage remains the same. 🙁
    This thought that anything Yankee is good for the Mets is painful.
    Severino SUCKS and in no way should the Mets go near him.

    GM changes, President of BO changes and the stupidity continues.

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  27. Yanks2

    2 years ago

    This guy was in the Cy Young conversation at one point. Sad how his career was derailed by injuries and plummeted

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