The Twins saw a variety of youngsters take significant steps forward in 2023 en route to their first victory in a postseason series since 2002, and perhaps none of those were more impactful than the breakouts of Royce Lewis and Edouard Julien. Long a top prospect whose career had been stalled by injuries, Lewis burst onto the scene in 2023 and slashed an incredible .309/.372/.548 with 15 homers and six stolen bases in just 239 trips to the plate last season while playing excellent defense at third base. Julien, by contrast, lacked Lewis’s prospect pedigree but put together perhaps an even more impressive rookie campaign. The 24-year-old slashed .263/.381/.459 in 408 trips to the plate as the club’s primary second baseman in 2023, with an incredible 15.7% walk rate that only Aaron Judge, Cavan Biggio, Joc Pederson, and Juan Soto managed to eclipse among rookie hitters (min. 400 PA) in the 21st century.
The incredible performances from both Lewis and Julien leave the Twins set up for success around in the infield for years to come, particularly if Carlos Correa manages to regain his All Star form and top prospect Brooks Lee is able to find similar success when he reaches the big leagues, which could happen as soon as 2024. This excess of infield talent has left longtime second baseman Jorge Polanco to face a great deal of uncertainty this offseason. The Twins haven’t been shy about their plans to cut payroll this offseason, and with each of Sonny Gray, Kenta Maeda, and Tyler Mahle having signed elsewhere this offseason after departing for free agency last month, the club is facing uncertanity in the rotation.
As such, dealing away the club’s longest-tenured player could allow Minnesota to leverage an area of considerable depth to fill out its pitching staff, while also saving $10.5MM in salary next season that could potentially be used to acquire even more pitching. That logic convinced MLBTR readers that Polanco should be dealt according to a poll back in October, where more than 56% voted in favor of the Twins dealing Polanco.
Given the clear incentives for the Twins to at least consider a Polanco trade, it’s hardly a surprise that the 30-year-old has garnered trade interest as recently as earlier this month from rival clubs. Even as the longtime infielder appears to be on the verge of getting squeezed out of the Twins’ infield mix, Polanco is still a quality everyday player. While he was limited to just 80 games this past season due to injuries, the switch-hitter nonetheless slashed a solid .255/.335/.454 (118 wRC+) while splitting time between second base, third base, and DH in 2023. That line is consistent with the numbers Polanco has posted throughout his time as an everyday player in the majors. Since he broke out as an above-average regular back in 2019, the infielder has slashed .267/.337/.458 with a wRC+ of 117. That’s good for ninth among qualified second baseman during that time span, just ahead of household names such as Gleyber Torres and Ozzie Albies.
While Polanco doesn’t generate much value with his glove, typically earning below-average marks by Outs Above Average and roughly average marks by Defensive Runs Saved, he makes up for it with his consistent, above-average offense and would be a clear upgrade for virtually any team in need of infield help ahead of the 2024 season. Further adding to Polanco’s value is his relatively affordable contract situation. As previously mentioned, Polanco is due just $10.5MM in 2024, an amount the majority of buying clubs should be able to stomach without much issue. What’s more, Polanco is not a pure rental thanks to a $12MM club option for 2024 that carries a fairly modest buyout of $750K.
Taken together, Polanco’s switch-hitting bat, offensive consistency, and affordable team control are surely an enticing package to plenty of clubs, even in spite of Polanco’s recent injury history and lackluster defense. With that said, which teams are the best fits for his services? The Angels, Astros, Braves, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Guardians, Orioles, Padres, Phillies, Rangers, Rays, Reds, Red Sox, and Yankees all appear more or less set around the infield, while the A’s, Nationals, Rockies, Tigers, and White Sox all appear unlikely to spend significant money and prospect capital on a short-term infield solution. That still leaves nine teams as viable fits for Polanco’s services, however. Let’s take a look at how they match up…
Best Fits:
- Blue Jays: The Jays have a clear need around the infield after losing Whit Merrifield and Matt Chapman to free agency, even after adding Isiah Kiner-Falefa. The club also recently lost their primary source of left-handed offense due to the departure of Brandon Belt. Polanco could help alleviate both of those issues as a switch-hitter who could add some pop to the lineup from the left side while slotting in as the club’s everyday second baseman, with the likes of Davis Schneider, Ernie Clement, and Santiago Espinal left to compete for the third base job alongside Kiner-Falefa. Meanwhile, mercurial right-hander Alek Manoah could surely entice the Twins as a potential return given his significant upside and the ability of depth starter Louie Varland to step into the rotation should Manoah struggle to regain the form he showed in 2022, when he was a finalist for the AL Cy Young award.
- Cubs: Few teams got worse production from their third base corps in 2023 than the Cubs, who needed to plug the hole by trading for Jeimer Candelario at the trade deadline last summer. With Candelario now suiting up for Cincinnati, the Cubs are once again left with a hole at third base and a dearth of left-handed pop in their lineup. The addition of Polanco could address both of those concerns; while the veteran infielder has primarily played second base during his career, he looked decent at the position when covering for Royce Lewis this past season and the Cubs had little issue converting Nick Madrigal from the keystone to the hot corner last spring. In exchange for Polanco’s services, the Cubs could dangle a young pitching prospect such as Hayden Wesneski or Ben Brown, both of whom have found themselves in the rumor mill this offseason.
- Mariners: After shipping Eugenio Suarez to Arizona earlier in the winter, the Mariners have plenty of room to improve upon their infield mix. Josh Rojas and Luis Urias are currently slated for everyday roles at second and third base, though the pair are likely better served platooning with each other. That opens the door for another infield addition, and Polanco could fit the bill as an everyday player at either position. While the switch-hitter is unlikely to net the Twins a young starter like Bryan Woo or Bryce Miller in trade (at least by himself), it’s possible a deal could come together centered around a less proven arm like Emerson Hancock.
Next Tier Down:
- Brewers: The Brewers have as significant of needs around the infield as any team, with little certainty anywhere outside of Willy Adames. Brice Turang and Andruw Monasterio appear to be the club’s current best options at second and third base respectively, but adding Polanco would give a significant boost to the club’s offense while taking pressure off the aforementioned pair of youngsters. While Milwaukee is as good of a fit as any club for Polanco’s services, the recent departures of Brandon Woodruff and Adrian Houser leave the Brewers seemingly unlikely to further weaken their rotation depth by trading a starter to Minnesota. Meanwhile, the club’s many outfielders likely hold little appeal for the Twins, who have a deep outfield mix of their own already.
- Giants: The Giants, at least on paper, have a fairly solid infield mix that includes J.D. Davis, Thairo Estrada, and Wilmer Flores. With that being said, the club has been connected to free agency’s top infielder in Matt Chapman this winter, and Polanco could be a reasonable fallback option for San Francisco to improve their offensive production on the infield dirt should they fail to land Chapman. The club also has a handful of interesting young pitchers like Tristan Beck who they could consider dealing, though the club is seemingly hoping to land a player with more star power than Polanco provides this winter.
- Marlins: The Marlins are seemingly perpetually interested in acquiring hitting reinforcements by leveraging their deep group of pitchers, and it appears this offseason is no different as the likes of Edward Cabrera, Jesus Luzardo, and Trevor Rogers have all found their names in the rumor mill. What’s more, the sides got together on just this sort of deal last offseason, when the Twins landed Pablo Lopez in exchange for Luis Arraez. Polanco would be something of a tricky positional fit for the Miami, though they could conceivably move Josh Bell to DH and shift Arraez back to first, opening up second base for Polanco.
Longer Shots:
- Mets: The Mets appeared to be content with their infield mix as recently as earlier this month, when it appeared that Joey Wendle, Ronny Mauricio, Brett Baty, and Mark Vientos would compete for playing time at third base while Francisco Lindor, Jeff McNeil, and Pete Alonso remained at their usual positions. That all changed when Mauricio suffered a torn ACL while playing winter ball, throwing the club’s infield plans into chaos. Even so, the Mets and Twins are something of an imperfect fit as trade partners. While Polanco’s two years of team control seemingly fits New York’s current strategy of making short-term additions that won’t encumber the team in the long haul, Polanco doesn’t offer the quality glove Mauricio did and his switch-hitting bat is likely less attractive given the number of lefty-swinging infielders the Mets already have at their disposal.
- Pirates: The Pirates evidently are looking to add a second baseman to their infield mix given their reported interest in a reunion with Adam Frazier, and the addition of Polanco would likely move the needle far more for the fourth-place club in 2024 should they hope to contend for the NL Central this season. The addition of Polanco would offer some veteran consistency to a young offense that dealt with extreme peaks and valleys throughout the 2023 campaign, and his 118 wRC+ last year would’ve been the best on Pittsburgh’s offense last year. With that being said, the Pirates still have a long way to go to catch up to the rest of the NL Central in 2024, and their rotation has even more question marks than Minnesota’s, rendering them unlikely to deal away a rotation piece like the Twins figure to seek.
- Royals: Trades within a division are exceptionally rare, particularly when both clubs are seemingly hoping to contend in the coming season. With that being said, there’s at least an on-paper fit between the Royals and Twins for a Polanco deal. Kansas City needs offense even after adding Hunter Renfroe in free agency earlier this month, and Polanco would represent a massive upgrade over Michael Massey at the keystone. Meanwhile, the Royals could offer a package centered around a young arm like Kris Bubic or Alec Marsh who may be squeezed out of the club’s rotation mix by the recent additions of Seth Lugo and Michael Wacha. It’s also worth noting that Kansas City and Minnesota got together on a notable trade as recently as last offseason, when the Royals sent Michael A. Taylor to the Twins in exchange for a pair of relief prospects.
towinagain
Make a move Padres.
Javia135
Does he play OF or pitch?
dumper
Would love it if the mariners picked him up. Won’t happen, but I would love it.
David White
Any team looking to make Jorge Polanco their 3B in 2024 is in a sorry state.
Polanco is a marginal upgrade over Davis Schneider. The recent acquisition of IKF rules out the Blue Jays.
I think the Mariners are the most likely trade candidate. Urias is best served as a 3B defensively, and Rojas is not good enough to be a starter on a playoff team.
Career wRC+ Splits (R/L)
Urias: 93/118
Polanco: 118/96
Rojas: 93/93
Rojas is not very well-suited as a bench player as he lacks a platoon split and hasn’t played the outfield since 2021. I would rather have a player like Rojas who can play the outfield or has a platoon split. Rojas is best suited on a lower-division team.
stymeedone
Toronto would use him at 2B.
THEY LIVE!!!
Mariners would be my guess.
Seamaholic
Polanco is kind of a butcher defensively, and has long been someone for whom injuries just tend to crop up. He can hit though, and is an actual true switch-hitter (virtually identical from both sides). Problem is the profile doesn’t add up to enough for a legit SP in return, not that there are many teams out there shopping one anyway, and there are at least two other teams looking to sell a 2B (Reds and Rockies) for arms, probably more.
Steve(shs22)
He used to be a short stop 2 years ago… he’s not as big a butcher defensively as it may seem.
Seamaholic
Yeah he’s pretty bad. Slowed way way down. He’s got a pretty thick body and is 30 now. Lots of errors, and in the post shift era 2B defense matters again.
martras
He’s not slower. Same sprint speed as 2020.
Jacksson13
Somebody please forward this article to the Twins front office..
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Jackson @Seamaholic above…
I’m a bit surprised Kyle Farmer isn’t even mentioned in the article. The Twins have so many decent (not brilliant with the exception of a healthy Correa) infielders, plus some pretty good ones knocking at the door… They almost have to make a trade or two, because they’re all blocking each other.
The Royals & Bubic look the best fit from the Twins point of view, but I’m not sure the Royals pony up for Polanco or would fancy the cheaper Farmer. I think Royals would want additional piece(s)….
Jacksson13
I’m surprised the Giants are not talking to the Twins on
Farmer. The Twinkies need to be open on and willing to explore bringing in a THIRD TEAM in potential trade talks.
herethereeverywhere2
Bubic just had TJ surery, no? He will not pitch until maybe late summer of 2024 and then nobody knows how he will do. The Twins are competing and will need someone who can actually pitch the whole season and is a surer bet as return. Not sure that the Royals match up well.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@herethereeverywhere2
Bubic, has had TJ recently, my bad. God alone knows who I was think of at the Royals…
its_happening
Not a fit (anymore) with the Jays. Jays also need to keep Manoah.
Shishka
Agreed. While the Jays could find room in their infield for Polanco’s bat, they certainly wouldn’t give up Manoah (and his low salary) for two years of Polanco.
Plugnplay
Hard pass for me with Polanco. I just think u look for at least average D guys up the middle and at 3rd base, unless they knock the Sox off the ball. His slightly above hitting grade isn’t enough in my book to make up for it. Meh!
ACK
This is a lot of words & sentences about Jorge Polanco. He’d be a decent pick up as a FA. But I wouldn’t give up upside talent for him. Padres stay away.
stymeedone
Padres only want SS’s.
hllywdjff
Mariners get Kepler/Polanco for Woo/Moore/Clase
yeasties
The problem there is the Mariners don’t appear able to even afford that
ohyeadam
What if instead of Woo/Miller the Twins got Ray, with some of his contract covered by Seattle, and a prospect or two?
herethereeverywhere2
Why would the Twins who are competing, would want an injured pitcher who cannot pitch and prospects? They need MLB-ready pitching for return.
yeasties
I have wondered if the M’s would package Woo & Ray together as a salary dump. A contending team like the Twins would put Woo on an innings limit next year and hopefully Ray is ready to play around the same time that Woo gets shutdown or moved to the pen.
If they did this, I think it would be torch and pitchfork time for angry Mariners fans though…
ohyeadam
Severino got 1/$13m this offseason. Would Ray for 3/$40-45m be so bad? He was one of the best in baseball in 21-22
yeasties
I would say the problem with trading for Ray is that you can’t be sure that he’s going to heal sufficiently to be useful in 2024. I think he’ll be fine by 2025 though. Ray wasn’t quite stellar during his time in Seattle. Often very good but at times it felt like he was terrible (but that’s just off the top my head, would need to check the stats to verify that) Altogether that seems like a risky gamble for the Twins to make?
HalosHeavenJJ
Hard to call the Angels infield as set with Rendon at third and a rookie who basically skipped the minors at first.
I think a Justin Turner signing makes a ton of sense here.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@halosheavenjj
Turner as a 1B/DH I could see the point. I wouldn’t want him on 3B any more to say the least. Hoping for a healthy Rendon for you guys this year…
martras
I can’t imagine the Twins are expecting to get an MLB proven pitcher for him or anything more than a top 5-10 and top 10-20 prospect.
It seems like Falvey either forgot the offseason had started or overplayed his hand and just like last year when he rushed to sign Gallo before learning the market had dried up for Kepler.
Polanco is seemingly underrated in the comments. While he’s not good defensively at 2B (too error prone), his range and arm play fine there. He’s healthy going into the offseason for the first time in a couple years and I’d expect he’ll put up a 3+ WAR campaign next year.
Big whiffa
How bout for Nate Pearson ? That seems like a good one for one
martras
Pearson’s a AAA replacement level reliever and non-tender candidate at the end of 2023. He has no trade value unless a team specifically requests him as a toss in PTBNL type, I’d think.
Unclemike1525
If the Cubs trade either Ben Brown or Wesneski for Polanco then Hoyer should be fired immediately. There better be a lot more coming this way than a lousy over the hill 2B, Who would be a salary dump. They should include 3 guys just for taking his salary. Who writes this crap. I love how everyone thinks the Cubs are desperate just because they haven’t done anything yet. Get a grip. They’ll definitely make some waves yet. And Polanco would be the last guy on the list. Can he even PLAY 3B anymore? LMAO
Tigers3232
Polanco is going into age 30 season and is only 4 years older than Hayden. Over the hill seems a bit of a stretch
Big whiffa
The article just reads like a salary dump. He’d get much more than 2/23 on the open market today. He has some trade value. I actually got him getting a better return than a one for one wesneski or brown, who’s destine for the pen. That would be a good get for Chicago if they can’t fill the need via free agency first
drasco036
I wouldn’t call Polonco “lousy” or over the hill. He’s a really solid player but he’s been getting injured lately quite a bit.
I’d say it’s a hard pass for me as well but I may listen to Polonco for Keegan Thompson. There is absolutely zero chance I would give up Ben Brown or Wesneski (or Assad or Wicks).
He would fit for the Cubs as insurance but honestly, with Shaw and Vazquez in the minors and Morel, Madrigal and to a lesser extent Wisdom, we have a lot of insurance for third… I believe we even still have Mastuboni
Unclemike1525
Drascoo- The Cubs also have BJ Murray who is a SH and 3B who should start at AAA and might amount to something. It looks like Morel will get 1st crack at 3B. I’m not sure Madrigal will still be here or Wisdom ( Fingers Crossed). If they can build up Shaw’s arm strength a bit he’s a candidate, They do it with P’s why not hitters? Mastrobuoni is the LH utility guy and under rated. At 3rd it’s either go big or let it ride and Chapman isn’t going big to me. Polanco is another guy who fits the Cubs like a square peg in a round hole. I still expect the Cubs to get at least 1 starter and maybe 2 depending on the trade market. I also expect them to get Counsell a Closer, Because he’s always had one, Unless he sees something in what they have already. Hoyer is playing the waiting game with Hoskins and Bellinger it seems. It’ll be interesting to see what plan B is if it fails.
drasco036
I could see Madrigal moved but most likely will be kept as insurance for Morel. I love Madrigal as a bench piece but I do think he still has starter potential, just not likely on the Cubs. His arm strength graded just below average at 84 mph but his glove work was elite at the hot corner.
I think Vazquez is the slot, if he hits well this spring/early in the season he will get first shot being he’s already on the 40 man and we will need to evaluate him or move him.
I love Hicks as a high leverage guy, he just fits with the team we have. Over 50% ground ball rate with a slick fielding middle infield.
MileMas (dude needs a nickname) I like as a bench piece as well. Very very similar to Madrigal but his speed is a difference maker where Madrigal speed is more blah.
I think Polonco fits (switch hitter, solid power, low salary) but he is worth more in trade than I would give up given what our roster already has.
drasco036
Boras isn’t moving on Hoskins until Bellinger signs, or it’s unlikely anyway.
I’d love for the Cubs to get both and let it ride at third. Add Hicks, maybe Robertson as well, and an upside starting pitcher on a one/two year deal.
Unclemike1525
I think Murray is the reason the Cubs just let Candelario walk. Murray is basically Candelario 2.0. He’s a SH who has a bit of power, Decent bat and glove and also plays 1B. Basically the same guy. Age has nothing to do with being over the hill or more to the point irrelevant. When was the last time Polanco was an above average player? 4 years ago? There are still a lot of Cubs questions. What’s plan B? PCA in CF and Mervis at 1B? Smyly as a bullpen/Swingman? Can Wesneski lose the slider and change it to a cutter and dominate? What will happen first in 2024? Hoyer does something or the Hawks win 2 in a row? Tons of questions that I still have-unanswered. I do like Vasquez, I have since last Spring but nobody agreed with me.
drasco036
Is Murray going to be able to play there defensively?
Spring training is right around the corner and we definitely have so many question marks. Bellinger solves a lot of them or at least gives you a clearer picture.
Polonco has always been better than average. The last time he wasn’t better than average was 2018. Dude gets slept on a lot but he is a really good player. If he didn’t cost much in trade I’d totally do it. Add him to the mix of third base and DH to try to keep him on the field.
WolvesSufferer
These articles are always so detailed and well written. It feels like it’s written by someone who follows the team closely, which is appreciated.
Thanks for the great work!
another54pctjoke
this smells like something the mariners would pull the trigger on and i will be very sad if/when they do
ericl
Polanco really isn’t an upgrade for the Blue Jays. I wouldn’t trade Manoah for him. Manoah is only one year removed from being a Cy Young finalist. Yes he was horrible last year, but it would take more of a needle mover than Polanco to trade Manoah.
steelerbravenation
Priester for Polanco
User 4095290658
Not a chance.
steelerbravenation
Who says no ?
User 4095290658
The Pirates are trying to trade away 2nd basemen, not acquire them… and any remaining dollars should be spent on starting pitching or a real CF who can defend PNC’s large outfield.
steelerbravenation
So who is the starter & please don’t say Triolo
He is gonna be super utility playing 1B vs tough lefties & filling in for Hayes when he needs a breather. Definitely will see some time @ 2B as well.
But please don’t act like you know what you are talking about when every Pirate insider has reported their interest in a reunion with Adam Frazier. Polanco is a better player & is signed for the timeline where Johnson is projected to be ready.
Priester’s velocity fell off but has potential for a bounce back but the Pirates need better if they plan on competing where he can slip in the back of the rotation for Minnesota and has potential to still develop.
Talkin bout trying to trade 2B but yet have interest in Frazier you don’t know what you are talking about.
I agree on the CF need. And Harrison Bader would be a great fit. He can play CF & move Suwinski to RF. Brings great defense and can hit in the bottom of the line up.
User 4095290658
They’ve got Peguero, Bae, Gonzales, Triolo, Williams and Cheng on the 40-man roster.
And Priester would be okay for the Twins rotation, but not the Pirates?
I really don’t get your logic here.
steelerbravenation
No he wouldn’t be because they need better to get to the level of competing the want to get to.
In Minnesota he would be a 5th starter. In Pittsburgh they need at the very least a solid 3rd starter.
All those 2B options just because they are on the roster doesn’t mean they are not looking to replace them. None you mentioned are on the level of Polanco. None provide the offensive upside he does.
steelerbravenation
Pirates should
1. Sign Stroman
2. Sign Bader.
3. Trade for Polanco
4. Sign Keller to an extension
getrealgone2
The Braves? They just traded someone because they didn’t have any room
steelerbravenation
No the Pirates
stymeedone
I just love the “fits” or non fits and the rationale.
SFG is looking to sign a name. Could they also be looking to improve the team?
The Mets are down to 3 players for 3B because of an injury. Do they really need a 4th? This isn’t bridge.
I can see the fit in Toronto, as they need a LH bat, but they aren’t trading Manoah for him. Selling high on Kikuchi makes more sense.
Motor City Beach Bum
There’s a bit of flawed logic in the fits and non-fits for sure. The Tigers are mentioned as a non-fit for instance as they are not likely to spend money or prospects on a short term add. They have only brought in short-term adds this offseason. Almost every signing from Canha to Miller was a short term add! Not sure why the Tigers, with a gaping Vierling sized hole this year at 3B are out but KC and Pittsburgh would be in? Detroit looks like they can pluck the Division from the Twins, but they need a decent 3B bat this year to plug the hole until Jung comes up next year. Polanco at 10.5 mil this year and a $750’000 buyout is less than they paid for Canha.
Does Harris want to keep his prospect capital for something else? Hopefully, but I’m not holding out hope they can or will go get a younger bat for 3B like Gorman, Black, Vargas, Foscue, Marte, Mayo et al. Someone like Polanco makes a lot of sense for Detroit to bridge the gap to Jung, if he is indeed the guy tabbed for 3B now due to Keith’s injury. The Tigers have pitching and the Twins need pitching. I don’t think the Twins get a bona fide starter though (maybe in a package with Kepler to Tor or Sea), more like an interesting AAA arm in the Keider Montero mold.
rellime 2
I don’t get how they ignored Tigers for the same reasons you said. They want short term right now to get to their young guys. I dont think they would trade a high end pitching prospect but, I could see trading a decent one.
Canuckleball
But that would then create another hole for the Jays if they traded Kikuchi. They’d then have to fill 2 spots in their rotation
JoeBrady
The Mets are down to 3 players for 3B because of an injury. Do they really need a 4th?
==========================
Yup, that just right off the page for me. I guess it’s possible to trade one of them, but it would likely be selling low.
MARLIN POWER 18
Marlins have no interest in Polanco – he doesn’t really address the team’s needs. They might be willing to deal a starter (Cabrera, Rogers, or Luzardo) for a package that would include Brooks Lee and Alex Kirilloff. Contrary to popular belief, although they’ll listen to offers, they aren’t desperate for a deal. There is enough confidence in their internal 2B/SS options to rule out any trade that isn’t a major upgrade for the Fish.
Big whiffa
More like eury Perez for brooks Lee. He’s the twins very best player. Holiday and lankford are the only 2 prospects that I see that are clearly better than him
He’s yours for Perez thou
MARLIN POWER 18
@Big whiffa
The Marlins have Xavier Edwards (a terrific high-average contact hitter) as one candidate for the SS job. There are others, all with the potential to be solid everyday players. I may be wrong, but as much as I’d love to see Brooks Lee in a Miami uniform, I don’t think they’re going to deal Eury.
Big whiffa
Yeah but they should. They need another high profile bat badly and have a ton of pitching. So miami should trade Perez for someone like Lee or Jordan Walker from StL who has an incredibly high floor too and be a much improved team for the next few seasons
MARLIN POWER 18
@Big whiffa
Good assessment. I absolutely agree. When Derek Jeter and Gary Denbo were running the baseball operations from 2018-22, they completely failed to draft and develop any decent position players. So now let’s see if Peter Bendix and his crew can make the tough decisions regarding trades, FA signings and other acquisitions necessary to build a long-term winner.
arby58
Brooks Lee is one of the Twins better prospects – far from their best player.
Both Lewis and Julien did better at the MLB level than Lee did combined at AA/AAA last year.
Big whiffa
Lee put up better stats then both those guys. What are u talking about ? 80+ runs and rbi, 56 walks, 60 extra base hits, average an extra base hit nearly every other game. That’s incredible ! And he’s an above average hitter.
He’s the twins best player by a mile, a sure fire prospect, and a top 5 prospect is all of baseball. He’d be #1 if he played for yanks or dodgers.
Seamaholic
Lee is just a polished college hitter who hasn’t been focused on yet by the big boys. Wait and see.
Big whiffa
And we are talking about the twins. Whose is competition for best player on that team ? Joe Ryan ? I’ll take Lee over him easy choice
martras
Best player on the team, by what metric? “It’s the Twins!”
Yeah, you’re talking about the Twins. Injuries were everywhere last year on that team. It’s always a question of health.
Lewis looks like a 6 WAR full season guy.
Correa’s likely to bounce-back to a 4-5 WAR guy.
Lopez is a 3-4 WAR pitcher.
I mean, at least have a general familiarity with the players on the team.
arby58
Lee scored 83 runs between AA/AAA, Julien 89 between AAA/MLB. Lee had an .841 OPS in AA and .731 at AAA. Julien had a .932 OPS at AAA and .839 in MLB. Get a grip.
steelerbravenation
Stop the Top 5 in baseball that’s a teach but he is definitely the Twins best prospect. But that’s only because others have moved off the list.
Lee still has a lot to prove.
Big whiffa
I do. Neither Lewis nor Correa can stay healthy and Ryan > Lopez.
It’s not like I’m saying he’s better than Aaron Judge.
martras
…Joe Ryan is better than Pablo Lopez? Either your favorite player is Joe Ryan or… I think I know everything I need to know about the quality of your opinions, LOL
muskie73
FWIW last season the Seattle Mariners received 1.2 fWAR in 46 games from Josh Rojas and 2.2 fWAR in 104 games from rookie Jose Caballero. That’s a combined 3.4 fWAR in 150 games from the potential 2024 second-base platoon of the lefthand-hitting Rojas and righthand-hitting Caballero.
As a point of reference, last season 30-yesr-old Jorge Polanco posted 1.5 fWAR in 80 games.
The Mariners await the projected 2024 debut of intriguing prospect Ryan Bliss, a starting second baseman in the 2023 Futures Game and Defensive Player of the Year in the Arizona Fall League. Last year across Double A and Triple A, the now 24-year-old Bliss posted a .304/378/.524/.902 line with 23 home runs and 55 stolen bases.
Seattle has offseason needs but Polanco would add little to the roster.
Big whiffa
Nice take. I liked him to Seattle til I read that
muskie73
FanGraphs projects 2024 WAR of 2.5 in 141 games for Jorge Polanco and 1.8 in 102 games for Luis Urias, the presumptive starting third baseman for Seattle.
The problem is that no team wants to hand over third base to the 30-year-old Polanco, who has a negative 19.8 UZR/150 in 180 career innings at third base, including a negative 8.7 UZR/150 in 103 innings last season.
The 26-year-old Urias has a 2.1 UZR/150 (and 11 DRS) in 1,319.1 career innings at third base, including a UZR/150 of 18.6 in 128 innings last year.
The Mariners can ill-afford to downgrade to Polanco at third base.
martras
Polanco cannot cover 3B. His arm doesn’t play there at all. I can’t imagine any team in MLB not understanding that.
slydevil
Some things about this article are questionable. Twins have been leaning hard on high-power fastball pitchers over the last half decade+. manoah would make an improvement of course, but doesn’t really hit the philosophy of their system as much now.
As a twins fan, I love the velocity strikeout approach over “pitch to contact”. D has been good. Still, contact can turn into a hit, while a strikeout means sit down.
Big whiffa
There’s no way tor sells low on manoah. I’m real high on polanco yet that would be the worst move all
Offseason. More like the worst guy from Miami or Seattle. Maybe a pitcher from bucs system that will be ready for trial this year
Canuckleball
Except that the Jays sold unexpectedly low on a potential franchise catcher and 1 year of affordable control of an all star left fielder for a platoon/backup outfielder.
Their inability to properly judge the value of their players can’t be underestimated.
Big whiffa
I was literally praying the reds would give Tor whatever they wanted for Moreno. He was the perfect player to overpay for. I was shocked they did it for varsho but there’s a lot of people that are real high on him
Zippy the Pinhead
It shouldn’t be the Mariners. It’s a team with 37 middle (middling) infielders already.
619MetroFriars
Can Polanco play Left Field? We need a Soto replacement, ASAP.