Mets infielder Ronny Mauricio has a torn ACL in his right knee and will require surgery, reports Andy Martino of SNY. A timeline for his recovery hasn’t been publicly reported but he’s likely to miss a notable amount of the upcoming campaign. Martino reported last night that Mauricio suffered the injury while playing winter ball in the Dominican Republic on Sunday.
Mauricio, 23 in April, made his major league debut as a September call-up a few months ago. He hit just .248/.296/.347 in his first taste of the big leagues, but in a small sample of just 26 games. He has been considered one of the top 100 prospects in the league for years, hitting 20 homers in the minors in each of the past three years. He also has some speed, stealing 24 bags in the minors this year and another seven in the majors.
He’s generally considered to be a passable shortstop but the Mets have moved him elsewhere due to their specific circumstances. Francisco Lindor is under contract through 2031 and is still considered one of the best defensive shortstops in the league, so the club has had Mauricio line up at second base, third base and left field.
Just last week, president of baseball operations David Stearns said that the club would stick with internal options for third base, with Mauricio set to compete with Brett Baty and Mark Vientos for playing time there. None of those three players have established themselves as viable big leaguers yet, but the club was seemingly content to go into 2024 hoping that one of them would pull away from the other two.
Now that calculation could change in light of this new development. It’s still unclear how long the club expects Mauricio to be out, but it will likely be the majority of the upcoming season. For reference, Rhys Hoskins tore his anterior cruciate ligament in Spring Training earlier this year and still wasn’t able to rejoin the Phillies by the time they were eliminated in the NLCS in late October. Mauricio will have a few extra months on Hoskins since his injury occurred in December, but he’s still probably looking at a late-season return in a best-case scenario.
That will leave the club with Baty and Vientos as their third base options in the short term. Baty was also a top 100 prospect on his way up to the majors but has underwhelmed in the majors thus far, having hit .210/.272/.325 in his first 431 plate appearances with subpar defense. Vientos is fairly similar, with a line of .205/.255/.354 in 274 plate appearances at the big league level.
The club has added some infield depth by signing Joey Wendle to a major league deal and claiming Zack Short off waivers from the Tigers. Martino suggests the club is likely to add some extra insurance at the hot corner and floats Justin Turner as a speculative fit. It may be a bit of a tricky calculus as they won’t want to completely cut off Baty, Vientos or Mauricio from playing time throughout the year. Each has performed extremely well in the minors and the club is planning a sort of transition year in 2024, making it the perfect time to give some rope to such players. The injury to Mauricio will obviously lessen his ability to take advantage of those circumstances in the coming campaign but the Mets might still want to see if either Baty or Vientos can run with the third base job.
That makes this the second straight offseason wherein the Mets are potentially losing a player for the entirety of the upcoming campaign due to a knee injury. Closer Edwin Díaz required surgery on his patellar tendon back in the spring after injuring himself during the World Baseball Classic. He attempted to rehab throughout 2023 but pumped the brakes on that when the club fell out of contention, eventually sitting out the entire season.
calamityfrancis
as a mets fan, i just know we dont get to have nice things. so this is simply expected.
ChiSoxCity
At least your billionaire ownership spends money. Quit complaining.
Buzzz Killington
He pulled an Edwin Diaz.
sacrifice
3 years, 1800 AB’s of Lindors numbers for THAT contract are a disgrace.
outinleftfield
To me, knowing so little about baseball that you make a comment like that is a disgrace. Lindor has a 14.6 WAR in 3 seasons.
What is also a disgrace is the team not making it deep in the playoffs in the last 3 years.
ham77
Guys tearing up their knees so they don’t have to play for the Mets.
Jk, hopefully he makes a speedy recovery.
RyanD44
Mets are gonna Met!
meckert
You’re so original!
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
sad, but go yankees!
RyanD44
Call me crazy, but these players playing in off-season leagues are taking a giant risk with their teams.
O'sSayCanYouSee
The teams know of, and approve of their players playing in those leagues. Often times, encouraging them to do so.
Players get hurt. Taxes suck. But it is what it is.
JackStrawb
There was no point in Mauricio playing winter ball when he had no remotely secure position with the Mets (their fault, really), and when what he really needed was 20,000 reps over three-and-a-half months of plays at 3B—ground balls, line drives, off-balance throws to 2B and 1B, not 3 balls a game hit in his direction in the DR.
Of course, teams can’t dictate he go to defense camp, they can’t even hint at it… was he simply not smart enough to figure out to ask for it?
And did the Mets in six years of having him in their organization never teach Mauricio even the basics of injury avoidance while running the bases? It seems not.
rct
@JackStrawb: Disagree. Mauricio is exactly the kind of guy who should be playing winter ball. He needs to work on plate discipline and general hitting. He’s been coasting on talent and needs to work on his hitting skills.
Also, ‘injury avoidance’? Give me a break. It’s a torn ACL. Watch the play. It’s a fluke injury that can literally happen to any player at any time. As usual, your anti-Mets bias is showing.
Canosucks
@rct As a long time Mets fan I never see JackStrawb post with an anti Mets bias?
I happen to agree with him; if you look at his previous work load an injury can happen without a break in his training.
Thesecondjamie
you’re right, baseball players should stop playing baseball
WiffleBall
You’re well aware that’s not what he’s saying, so you’re just being a douchebag. Though I don’t agree 100%, I do agree that it can be precarious for MLB player to be taking such huge risks with their health playing for foreign leagues in the offseason.
Fans and owners have every reason to be concerned and to not want their players in winter ball.
JoeBrady
FWIW, I’d like to see Devers and Casas do some winter ball to improve their fielding.
JT70
The players doing this are usually doing it as (A) an open tryout for exposure as a free agent or (B) are there to continue their development either with some mechanical stuff or maybe getting reps at a new position they are learning. And they’re usually there with the permission of their team. It’s a way to keep active during the offseason winter (cold) months instead of just hitting balls out of a machine or being limited to batting cages. Even if say the talent level is akin to some minor league game there are just some things you get from an actual game that you can’t get from simulated and controlled reps.
Fans don’t want their team’s prospects playing in winter ball? How would you like them to continue their development during the offseason? Mind you most of these prospects are barely making enough to survive on their own so hiring offseason trainers and coaches is not exactly a practical solution. And lets not kid ourselves that these owners really care…all they care about is what will line their pockets with more money, if sending all of their team’s prospects to winter leagues guaranteed success and money they would do it in a heartbeat.
metslvt17
They want to complain about how much money they make and minimize the work that goes into being a professional player, and then also not want them to work or do anything active to risk getting hurt. It’s nuts.
KingKat
But in this specific case, I think it’s pretty clear that the player had more to gain than to lose. It would have been a different story if Mauricio had hit the majors looking fully formed but he plainly didn’t.
JackStrawb
@WiffleBall Not to mention a defensively challenged player like Mauricio, whom the Mets unaccountably left at SS until the middle of 2023, doesn’t need a few game situations at 3B—he needed and still needs 20,000 reps there, which he can only get through intensive coaching.
You know, what he would have gotten had the Mets had the brains to move him off of SS once they picked up Lindor in 2020-21 offseason.
Ma4170
Jack nails it – they had years to transition to him to a different position and get him remotely competent there. And they failed oncr again to do that. So he goes to winter ball to try to develop as a 3b, tears up the league offensively, and tears up his knee. If they could develop their kids defensively, he wouldn’t have been in winter ball again.
Pads Fans
Mauricio grades out as a league average (50FV) SS defensively with a plus (60FV) arm.
Ma4170
Yep and he cant play there bc of lindor, and theyve tried him briefly at a number of other positions w no noticeable improvement at any of them unfortunately… which is so common in their milb system
JackStrawb
@Pads Fans Yes, that must be why Mauricio made 93 errors in 3356 innings at SS in the minors, or 37 errors per 1,350 inning / 150 game season—a rate which didn’t improve as he climbed the minor league ladder.
As we know, most competent SS’s make 37 errors in a full season—oh, wait, of course they don’t.
rct
“Jack nails it — they had years to transition to him to a different position and get him remotely competent there.”
Actually, Jack’s anti-Mets hatred is again on full display. Mauricio has spent years at SS but is still not great there. So the Mets should have transitioned him to a different position where he magically would be great? Lots of players stay at SS in the minors because it’s a harder position, and with Mauricio’s arm it makes sense. But could it be possible that, you know, he just doesn’t have the skills to be a great defensive player? Not every player can develop into a defensive wizard. They’re trying to make him passable at multiple positions because he’s not a phenom who is guaranteed a spot. *Baty* was and is more highly touted; the Mets aren’t doing this because Mauricio is guaranteed the 3B spot.
“So he goes to winter ball to try to develop as a 3b, tears up the league offensively, and tears up his knee.”
He’s in winter ball because he is raw all around. He needs to be there to develop his hitting skills. You don’t have a clue if you think seven games and 30 plate appearances qualifies someone as ‘tearing up a league’. Take note that he had one walk in that time. Plate discipline is a major issue with this guy. He’s not there solely to work on his 3B defense.
Pads Fans
If they didn’t have Lindor, they would not have been having Mauricio even try 3B. If Baty and Vientos had been able to lock down the position, he would have been working more at 2B.
Mauricio is not a defensive liability, he is just not Lindor.
rct
@whiffle ball: “I do agree that it can be precarious for MLB player to be taking such huge risks with their health playing for foreign leagues in the offseason.”
You should familiarize yourself with Mauricio. He needed to be there. He’s a raw talent that needs to be playing in leagues like this.
JackStrawb
@Ma4170 Excellent point. Neither of us objects to Winter ball per se, but it’s interesting (and deeply unfortunate–I feel bad for the kid as this was his first big shot with a cleared field) how often poor planning and weak decision-making turn out to bear some relation to disastrous events; that they’re lurking in the background as contributing factors when things go awry.
Pads Fans
Have you ever checked how many MOST SS make in their minor league careers? Even Lindor made 65 in a similar number of innings and he is one of the best defensive SS I have ever seen. Corey Seager had 71 errors in less innings.
Ma4170
@rct You can be average, below average, or above average in any number of AB. In 31 AB, he was exceptional. No, he didn’t have plate discipline, and likely never will, just like Albies or Baez or a number of players who still provide value. His OPS is going to be what drives his value if he makes it in MLB, and it will be through SLG, not OBP. He’s shown great offensive ability in prolonged spurts, and definitely took steps forward this past year. I personally don’t believe he was there to work on his plate discipline – I think he was there to get defensive work, but only the Mets know for sure.
I get it, he may never be a defensive marvel, but they had time to get him to be adequate at other positions. If he’s a DH, he’s a DH, but it’s not like our Mets have a great track record of developing guys defensively in the minors.
Tigers3232
@Jack, I agree they should have started the transition to a different position sooner. However I don not agree that players should avoid activities such as winter ball. Most use this as an opportunity to further development and/or stay fresh. Players can just as easily be hurt in offseason condition training. And most players who play winter ball due so without incident.
Ultimately these players are athletes and injuries are often part of their chosen profession. Many players also get injured or performance regresses due to lack of practice or conditioning. It is just the nature of the beast for athletes.
outinleftfield
Have you ever looked at Ozzie Smith’s first couple of years? No bueno. That is why using errors as a measure of defensive performance can be inaccurate. Not saying Mauricio is going to be Ozzie, but he is a decent fielding SS that has no shot at ever playing his natural position with the Mets.
JackStrawb
@Tigers3232 Not what I said at all, my friend. In fact I was very clear about it. When a player has no experience at a position, none beyond a handful of innings there, then what he desperately needs to do is compensate for the 10,000 repetitions, ground balls, double play balls he DIDN’T get in the minor leagues, and which he WON’T get in 35 games in Winter ball, where he might get 100 balls hit his way, only 10 of which are going to be out of the ordinary.
The only way to compensate for the lack of training is to field 200 balls a day under the supervision of one of the best coaches in the game, and do that throughout the Winter.
good vibes only
There is more risk for pitchers than position players but the CBA limits pitcher participation. It’s a double edged sword. MLB gets free development reps for their prospects in return for some minimal risk. For position players it’s probably worth it but sucks to see a prospect of this caliber go down.
JackStrawb
@good vibes only Thing is, in Ronny’s case, he would have gotten 3 balls a game at 3B in the DOWL. Over 35 games, call it 100 balls hit to him. Most wouldn’t be particularly interesting or difficult, but in any case 100 balls is far less than what he’d get in an afternoon of 3B practice with a serious coach.
Over the course of an offseason he could make 20,000 plays at 3B using a fielding coach and a couple of extras to help out, or 200 times what he’d get with Licey in the DOWL.
You don’t play winter ball to learn a new position—you play b/c it’s fun, b/c you want to relax, b/c of the chicks, b/c of friends and family, b/c it’s a vacation, but no one goes, or should go, to learn to play a new position.
n2thecards
tale as old as time. this last off-season, several players were injured in the WBC and it affected their ’23 campaigns. Lots of young players compete in AFL every year, too. decades ago, players had full-time jobs in the off-season so they could afford to play. For many players, they have to risk injury so they have exposure to scouts or show improvement.
VonPurpleHayes
Yes, but a young player like him should absolutely be playing and developing in those leagues. He needs that experience.
JackStrawb
@VonPurpleHayes So he needs to do the thing that DOESN’T give him 200x the reps at 3B, a position he’s never really played? Interesting thesis, friend.
rct
@JackStrawb: Von is 100% correct and you have no idea what you’re talking about once again. Do you think he’s just lounging by the pool all day, then slaps on a uniform around game time, then immediately hits the clubs as soon as the final out is recorded?
It’s winter ball. Literally every team sends players there to learn and get reps. He’s getting training. Please take off the obsessive hate goggles for a minute, dude.
LongTimeFan1
@rct,
Mauricio should not have been playing winter ball. The risk of injury is not worth it in a player who already reached the majors and would have much opportunity to prove himself in 2024. This kid hardly has any time off, keeps playing competitively and hard even in off season. Losing Mauricio is a loss for the Mets and for Mauricio. He’s young, strong and athletic – an important need for the Mets. Mets can’t replace his switch hitting, size, competitive spirit, and power and speed combo.
And I agree with JackStrawb that Mets should have been preparing Mauricio at multiple positions before 2023. At least 2022. Speaking truth to power doesn’t mean JackStrawb isn’t a Mets fan. He is Mets fan as am I.
Whatever extent Mets could have – or even had the right to prevent Mauricio from playing winter ball – is unknowable right now – but they knew about it and supported it. We don’t know if they ordered it, or even if they could as per the CBA.
padam
@long – he absolutely should be playing winter ball. There’s zero assurance that he’s in the team without improving himself in the possession. If you’re point is to be taken, apply it to a vet like Diaz who doesn’t need to prove anything, but when the Mets aren’t going to stop him from pitching.
padam
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Neuf
✌️❤️
DarkSide830
Darn shame. Kid could have been a RoY contender.
acoss13
He coulda been a contenda!
mlb fan
“Could have been a RoY candidate”..He still can be a RoY candidate. It just won’t likely be in 2024.
Clofreesz
Darn…
Hoping for a quick recovery for the kid.
(The baseball gods kinda suck not gonna lie)
Old York
Big blow to the Mets 2024 season.
KennyF’nPowers
Looking forward to the AAAA Utility Player Stearns signs to replace him. lol. What a disastrous Off Season so far for the Mets.
davidk1979
lol there’s two months left in the offseason rehire empty headed Brodie!
MarlinsFanBase
Man, it didn’t take long for Mets fans to turn on Stearns.
brooklyn62
Just the dumb, Mets fans.
KennyF’nPowers
OK dolt. You’re happy with the Offseason signings. Our biggest signing is an injury prone SP coming off a 6+ ERA in 2023. Don’t be a tool all your life.
MarlinsFanBase
@brooklyn62
Agreed. While the offseason has been questionable, a fan base needs to wait a bit before they give a complete evaluation of a front office person. So far, the one transaction I think there is an unquestionable bash on Stearns is the Wendle signing, but not because of the player, but because of the timing of rushing to it, and the guaranteed MLB contract and $2 million, and essentially a guaranteed MLB roster spot.
Other than this, you can take issue with the Severino signing, but not for the baseball related stuff, but more because it categorizes as a ‘typical Mets move’. The Mets need to stop doing those.
Other than these, this is what rebuilding teams do. Fans need to chill out instead of bashing a guy a couple of months after he was hired, long before Opening Day, and even longer before you see the entire plan coming into fruition.
brooklyn62
TY MarlinsFB…Stearns had a track record of success getting the Brewers to the Post Season during his tenure. The man knows what he’s doing. Just because Cohen has more money than anybody, doesn’t mean that he’s giving Stearns a blank check to overpay and sign all the big name FAs. Mets fan base,the impatient ones, need to chill the phoq out.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
By what standard is this off season disastrous?
Injuries happen. Thankfully, it’s not a position that requires the team to go sign a replacement. It just places more emphasis on Baty’s growth.
Y’all need to stop reacting to normal situations with the emotional discipline of a 14 year old on hormone medication.
KennyF’nPowers
When you’re the Cohen owned Mets and your big signing is a 2023 6+ ERA oft injured Severino that doesn’t say much. Especially when the Braves are retooling. The Phils resigned Nola. Name me the great thing Stearns has done this offseason. Be F’n real.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
Oh, you mean in the month since the season ended?
Besides the Yankees and Dodgers, name another team that significantly improved since the World Series.
Before you crucify the new GM, have a little patience. 😉
Rbase
Wendle is already signed!
outinleftfield
For a guy that was not assured a spot as a starter on the roster? No. A big blow to Mauricio’s career? Yes.
JackStrawb
@Old York Mauricio was far from a sure thing at 3B (his error rate at SS was brutal, and he’s played SS for as many YEARS as he’s played GAMES at 3B), and Baty’s bat is far more likely to carry a -10 glove at 3B than Mauricio’s bat is.
It does solve the problem of having too few positions. New depth chart:
DH – Vientos, Baty
3B – Baty, Vientos
Bobcastelliniscat
The Reds have a surplus of infielders.
rct
So do the Mets. Baty, Lindor, McNeil, Alonso, Vientos, plus Wendle and Short.
davidk1979
Sometimes baseball sucks hope he’ll be better than ever in 2025
Yanks4life22
What a tough break. I really liked what I saw from him and felt like he was getting better each passing day.
VonPurpleHayes
More like a tough tear.
Tom the ray fan
Typical Mets luck, genuinely feel bad for Mets fans. Something always seems to go wrong and they simply can never have nice things lol
DannyDimes2023
No excuses now not to dip in 3rd base market. Chapman or whoever now. Can’t trust baty or vientos to 3rd
Sunday Lasagna
Vientos can’t handle third defensively. The job is Baty’s to lose. Joey Wendle will take over if Baty fails.
geofft
The job is completely open and far from being Baty’s to lose. Baty has been poor on both sides of the ball. More importantly, Baty showed absolutely zero improvement in over 350 PAs . Vientos struggled in his first 180 PAs, then hit, and hit well last September.
Neither one of them has earned the job and both will need to grow in order to get it.
JackStrawb
@geofft Vientos didn’t improve.
Vientos, 2023: 620 OPS
Vientos, 2023, Sept 6-Oct 1: 626 OPS
He didn’t improve at bat, or in the field.
Of course, neither did Baty. It’s going to be an ugly season in Queens if what there is to root for is for one of Baty or Vientos to not hopelessly sxxx at 3B and the other to break the important .400 SLG mark at DH—oh, and for Tylor Megill to keep his ERA under 5.00.
Woohoo!.
rct
@Jackstrawb: Odd cutoff and numbers you’re using but dishonesty is expected with you.
Let’s look at it more clearly:
Vientos through the end of August (41 games, 140 PAs): .198/.236/.305/.541
Vientos in Sept/Oct (24 games, 93 PAs): 230/.280/.460/.739
Did he set the league on fire? No. But he absolutely improved as the season went on. You cite his season-ending OPS without realizing that his nice finish to the season *brought his OPS up to that*. His performance in the last month of the season raised his OPS nearly .100 points.
If you’re into the whole arbitrary cut-off thing, if we break the date back just two more days to August 28th instead of August 30th, Vientos’s OPS actually rose from .500 to .620 over his last 26 games.
geofft
@Jackstrawb not sure what you’re looking at, but those aren’t his Sept numbers. H e had a .739 OPS from Sept 1 on. Six of his ten career homers came after Sept 2, and 4 of those were after Sept 20. I stand by my statement that he did show improvement. Whether or not he will maintain it is yet to be seen. But it was there. Baty had substantially more PAs and did not.
Ma4170
Yes, plus he also had 6 HR that month, which is a good sign since power will be his biggest asset
Robrock30
Is this uninsured? Who pays for this? At least Edwin Diaz was injured in the WBC run by MLB which insured the Mets for the loss.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
His contact is insured by the team. The team requested that he spend time in the Dominican league this winter, so it’s not like an injury that occurs in a pick-up game of basketball.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
I’m pretty sure the Mets had to pay that insurance, not MLB.
DannyDimes2023
Minimum salary so who cares
Robrock30
The Team will have to now acquire a Player to replace him which will cost $
rct
Not necessarily. Mauricio wasn’t penciled into the starting lineup and as the article above mentions, they’ve already added utility depth this offseason.
geofft
@ rct To be fair, the UT depth they’ve added is scrub-caliber. Yeah, they don’t have to add a replacement. They can let Vientos and Baty platoon until one wins or one or both flop… then hope that a minor leaguer has risen to become a candidate. Whether thats Acuna to 2nd and McNeil to 3rd, or a dark horse like Jackson or Ritter to come up an play 3rd.
But thats not really a sound plan for a team that says they want to compete this year, even if not at the highest caliber. .
(Personally, I’m not suggesting they have to compete this year. But that is their stated intention
Ma4170
What i hope they dont do is sign Chapman, but I don’t think they will
Ma4170
Wow this one hurts as a met fan
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
6 – 8 month recovery time. It’s not ideal for a promising rookie, but it’s not as bad as a torn Achilles.
geofft
Do we know that its 6-8 months? Some players (admittedly in other, more strenuous sports) are out for 10 months or longer.
mlbnyyfan
Don’t worry Mets fans. King Cohen doesn’t care about winning now. He’s more concerned about 2-3 years from now. Cohen can call Cashman anytime to unload Stanton and Torres.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
Easy there, Steinbrenner Junior. Nobody is banging on doors in the Bronx for that “Stantonian” contract mistake.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
LO……nevermind. Tough news.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
David Stearns is doing a bangup job. In his great words “We are not getting any thirdbaseman, we are just using internal options”. A week later our potential starter 3rd baseman tears his ALC. After what happened to Diaz in the WBC last year, you’d think they’d learn their lesson. This organization is ran by buffoons from top to bottom. I hope all big name free agents don’t want to sign with us. They don’t deserve this kind of stupidity. Can’t wait for Cohen to sell the team, worst owner in sports right now
raisinsss
Completely agree.
Stearns should have consulted his crystal ball BEFORE stating that his plan was to go with internal options.
Now it’s far too late to change course, obviously.
Hurricane Sandy
Literally, our three most MLB-ready prospects are third basemen and all are well regarded and were tearing up AAA last year. Why would we emphasize third base this off-season, particularly before Mauricio’s injury? Not to mention Jeff McNeil can play third base too if the other guys don’t pan out. Mets need to acquire another bat for the outfield / DH and to give their young guys playing time to work out the kinks, and to know what they actually have.
No need for overreactions. There was no guarantee Mauricio was gonna be great this year, and he certainly wasn’t expected to make or break their season, although I also was looking forward to seeing what he can do this year and believe he will be a solid major leaguer. People are giving up on Baty way too quickly, and Vientos too for that matter. If those guys hit, even their defensive flaws won’t be as amplified. It is possible for guys to get better on defense, which is what Mauricio was attempting to do in winter ball in the first place.
@DaOldDerbyBastard
Just pick a new team. We don’t want you as a fan. You’re a whiny little baby. Only happy when you’re complaining about the team you supposedly support. Crawl back under your rock.
MarlinsFanBase
@LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
Why wouldn’t a big free agent sign with the Mets? They will give you truckloads of more money than everyone else, then you know you’ll be traded to a contender at the trade deadline, with the Mets paying 90% of the tab.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
Another brilliant comment from the basement dwelling franchise.
Give that man a speedboat and an 8-ball!
MarlinsFanBase
@SeeUonTheUlnarSide
“Another brilliant comment from the basement dwelling franchise.”
Um, I’m looking at the 2023 NL East standings, and I’m not a Nats or Mets fan.
And what in my statement is wrong to you. Or were you not being sarcastic? My statement is accurate, but I wouldn’t praise it as brilliant…unless you’re British.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
You are a lot like my ex-girlfriend. You take isolated instances and make statements as if they are historical trends.
I realize that it’s difficult to be a fan of MLB’s TJ Maxx franchise, but your trolling is no bueño.
MarlinsFanBase
@SeeUonTheUlnarSide
Fair enough. I also realize it’s difficult to be a fan of MLB’s overrated, overhyped version of the Clippers…wait, that isn’t it…the overrated, overhyped version of the NY Mets.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
The only people who over-hype the Mets are uneducated fan boys, sports talk shows and trolls who can only raise the issue of Cohen’s spending. Before Cohen, it was injuries. So, it’s pretty amusing for me to read complaints and insults that have literally nothing to do with the actual team’s performance.
If you want to talk stats, talk stats. I can pinpoint exactly why the Mets were bad last year – Inconsistent hitting and one of the worst (if not the worst) middle relief group in MLB.
Heading into 2024, we have a really good farm system, one of the best back-end bullpens in MLB and a lineup full of star power with something to prove. This is not over-hyping, this is fact.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
@MarlinsFanBase You might be right. Its kind of funny how the media praised InEppler and Cohen for paying these guys off and getting 1 or 2 prospects back. There is a reason why these other teams like the Astros and Rangers were going all in on Verlander and Scherzer. 1 or 2 prospects and you recieve essentially 60 to 80 million dollars? Every owner was thinking “Sign me up!”. Its really pathetic when you think about it. You ask any owner what would they rather have, 80 mil or a prospect? 99% will say the 80 million. Thats what happens when you don’t know how to run a competent organization. Cohen should stick to hedging stocks, hes doesn’t have a clue about baseball. I could the same for 90% of Mets fans. I was the only one who wasn’t shocked that they sucked last year. I was saying before the season that they were a .500 team. I wss actually really wrong, they finished way below .500. Its a joke how incompetent this owner and his hirings are
Yanks4life22
Lol this is just troll content to elicit a reaction right?
Since you are a self appointed baseball genius/lord I am going to dub you King Gristle Jr., lord of the trolls.
Wish I could take all the credit for the name but I just googled “fat stupid troll” and he came up and that’s what I imagine you are in real life.
@DaOldDerbyBastard
LFG I appreciate that you admitted you were wrong. You’re the worst Mets “fan” on the internet. It’s not even close. I have much more respect for MarlinsFanBase.
10centBeerNight
Terrible break for NYM. Well. Appears Baty and Vientos will have ample opportunity to prove they are keepers. Will the loudmouths afford them the patience? PHI endured the growing pains with Bohm & Stott and now are being rewarded. There’s a lesson for the WFAN overnight crowd in that.
JackStrawb
You mean ‘the growing pains’ that blessed Philly with a replacement level 3Bman in Bohm, whose fielding is among the very worst in MLB?
As for Stott there were no growing pains. He was respectable even in his rookie season.
HalosHeavenJJ
that sucks. Kid works his way up through the minors, finally gets a crack at his dream, and gets hurt.
jerseystrongsports
Not a Met fan, hate seeing these young players lose a year. Maybe the Mets, should have an exorcist come in and get rid of all The bad Wilpon karma!
jerseystrongsports
Actually a decent fill in might be IKF? Best position is 3b. Not going to set any records. But maybe help balance with Baty for a year.
raisinsss
How dare you have a decent suggestion here.
I do still think Baty was and is the 3B option. The door, however, would have been open for Ronny to earn himself a spot this year. See you in 25.
ChuckyNJ
LOLmets endures even in the Caribbean.
padam
damn it.
theknuckler
Well wishes to Ronny on a speedy recovery.
I loved watching him play last season.
Mets should platoon Baty/ Vientos until one of them decides he wants to be a major leaguer and runs away with the job. McNiel stays at 2B,
until Acuna or Jett are ready. Mets need an OF.
nymetsdiva
New ownership, same jinxed Mets
brooklyn62
WTH? Same jinxed Mets? That’s stupid! Injuries happen on EVERY team! Mauricio was awful for his sample size at 3B this year. Mets have other glove options for ’24 not a big deal. That’s why Stearns has been making depth moves this off season.
@DaOldDerbyBastard
I thought Mauricio looked better than the other two at third.
Tomas7
So sorry to hear about this, he’s a very hard working ball player, this can happen anytime, some can’t come back from this. I only wish him a speedy recovery and that the rear isn’t so bad.
Tomas7
the tear
Hired Gun 23
Cronenworth…
outinleftfield
OUCH! Wasn’t he the favorite to lock down 3B? Guess the Mets are back to Baty and Vientos.
MarlinsFanBase
Too bad for the kid.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
That sucks, as a fan of the game I always like to see what hyped up prospects can do. Maybe he will be able to come back in august or September. Tough blow for Mets fans I’m sure.
JackStrawb
What was so unbelievably stupid about this is that Mauricio shouldn’t have been there, and it had nothing to do with playing or not playing DR ball.
The Mets failed to give him more than 17 innings at 3B in his entire minor league career, and he played only 45 innings at 3B in the majors. 62 innings total at 3B for his career. But he’s first in line for the 3B job somehow, in spite of this and in spite of not being a particularly adept defender even at his ‘best’ position of SS. The Mets couldn’t see this coming from, say, the 2020-21 offseason? Then it’s “Oh gosh, Brett Baty can’t play 3B–how could we know, we only had him for 6 years in the minors. Better give Mauricio 17 innings there before we send him up!” The Cohen Mets make the Rockies look smart.
Did the Mets really figure Mauricio was going to learn how to play 3B based on the inevitably small number of difficult plays he’d see there in Winter Ball—instead of the many thousands of difficult plays he would have dealt with in intensive coaching, WITH intensive coaching, over the entire offseason?
YankeesBleacherCreature
The plan was for him to contend for the 3B job in ST. How else was he suppose to get reps there? Athletes can tear their ACL just doing sprints. It’s a bad break for him. I’m not quite sure what you’re ranting about.
brooklyn62
Spot ON JackStrawb!! Mauricio looked AWFUL at 3B in the small sample size he was there! He looked lost and had no awareness as to how to position himself. He made Baty look like a gold glover! He would have been a liability at 3B; he was/is not the answer, that’s not a MLB position to learn on the fly. Trading fielding errors for his bat “potential” was not a wise move.
@DaOldDerbyBastard
Mauricio made 1 error in 44.2 innings at third. Give him a chance.