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Free Agent Profile: Mike Clevinger

By Nick Deeds | January 6, 2024 at 10:11pm CDT

The market for free agent starters has been fairly busy this offseason, with Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Sonny Gray, and Aaron Nola having come off the board at the top of the market alongside a host of mid-level arms including Kenta Maeda and Seth Lugo. Even the back end of the market has been fairly active, with bounceback arms like Luis Severino and Lance Lynn finding new homes on one-year deals earlier this winter. For all the buzz surrounding the free agent pitching market, however, one name stands out as having not come up in the rumor mill at all to this point in the winter: veteran right-hander Mike Clevinger.

It’s something of a surprise that Clevinger’s market has involved such little fanfare, as the righty was one of the most dominant young arms in the league with Cleveland in the late 2010’s. From 2017 to 2019, Clevinger dominated across 447 2/3 innings of work with a 2.96 ERA that was a whopping 52% better than league average by measure of ERA+. The righty struck out 28.3% of batters faced against a 9.1% walk rate, good for a FIP of 3.32. Among pitchers with at least 400 innings of work across those three seasons, Clevinger’s ERA ranked sixth in the majors behind a quintet of multi-time Cy Young award winners: Jacob deGrom, Max Scherzer, Clayton Kershaw, Justin Verlander, and Corey Kluber.

Dominant as Clevinger was, the right-hander was shipped from Cleveland to San Diego at the 2020 trade deadline and wound up requiring Tommy John surgery just four starts into his tenure with the Padres. Rehab wiped out his entire 2021 season, and the right-hander returned in 2022 to post the worst season of his career. In 117 1/3 innings of work, Clevinger struggled to a 4.33 ERA with a 4.98 FIP, the first time he posted a ERA+ below the league average since becoming a full-time starter in 2017.

Clevinger’s peripherals also suffered considerably. Though the right-hander entered the 2022 campaign with a strong 27.3% career strikeout rate, he punched out just 18.8% of batters faced in his first year back from surgery. His batted ball metrics suffered as well: while he had generated grounders at a 40.3% clip during his peak years in Cleveland, that figure fell to just 35.2% with the Padres in 2022. The difficult season led Clevinger to sign a one-year, $12MM deal with the White Sox last offseason, and the righty made good on that deal by turning in a solid performance last year.

Clevinger’s time on the south side of Chicago got off to a rough start as he struggled to a 4.84 ERA across his first seven starts, but the right-hander settled in from there to bring his ERA down to just 3.88 by the time a wrist injury sent him to the injured list in mid-June. That success carried over when Clevinger returned to action six weeks later, and he entered the month of September with a sterling 2.45 ERA and solid 3.88 FIP in his last eleven starts. Clevinger mostly cruised through the month of September until his final appearance of the year, where he was torched for six runs in just 1 2/3 innings of work to leave him with a 3.77 ERA and 4.28 FIP on the season.

While Clevinger flashed his previous, dominant form at various points throughout the 2023 season and saw his average fastball velocity tick back up to 94.6, higher than his career average, it seems unlikely the veteran righty would be able to fully rediscover his previous form over a full season. After all, Clevinger’s groundball rate was at a career-worst 30.9% last season and while his strikeout rate did improve over 2022 it still sat at just 20%. That’s a far cry from the 33.9% clip Clevinger punched out batters at back in 2019 and pretty significantly below league average this past year.

Even so, the right-hander figures to be a quality, innings eating veteran who a club can comfortably place in the middle-to-back of their rotation in 2024. While Clevinger’s strikeout and groundball rates left something to be desired last year, he flashed strong command with a walk rate of just 7.3% while maintaining hard-hit and barrel rates significantly better than league average. Combined with his rediscovered velocity, it’s easy to see how the veteran right-hander could be an above average big league starter next season. If he can live up to that billing, the right-hander might prove to be a steal for the club that ultimately signs him this winter.

MLBTR projected Clevinger for a two-year, $26MM deal on our annual Top 50 MLB free agents list, where he placed 30th. That $13MM AAV would be something of a steal for a solid, mid-rotation arm this offseason given the pricey one-year deals arms like Frankie Montas ($16MM), and Jack Flaherty ($14MM) signed on the heels of seasons marred by injury and under performance. Meanwhile, the likes of Lucas Giolito ($19.3MM AAV) and Michael Wacha ($16MM AAV) managed to surpass those marks on multi-year guarantees. While Giolito is three-and-a-half years younger than Clevinger and Wacha has a stronger recent track record, it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where Clevinger posts comparable numbers to either pitcher in 2024 at a lower price point.

The veteran righty has been something of a ghost on the rumor mill this offseason, with few if any clubs directly connected to the right-hander. With that being said, plenty of teams are known to be in the market for starting pitching this winter including the Red Sox, Orioles, Angels, Giants, Yankees, and Cubs. Any of those teams could benefit from adding Clevinger to their rotation mix, and he could prove to be an attractive backup option for teams that either can’t afford or fall short in the bidding for top-of-the-market arms like Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery, or who are unwilling to meet the asking prices for potential trade candidates like Dylan Cease and Shane Bieber.

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  1. HBRC1987

    1 year ago

    Perfect fit for the Giants actually.

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    • oldgfan

      1 year ago

      Braided pigtails are never a good fit in any clubhouse. Hard Pass !

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      • BaseBall Bob

        1 year ago

        Judgemental people are an obnoxious fit anywhere.

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        • oldgfan

          1 year ago

          Thanks for making sense Bob.

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        • avenger65

          1 year ago

          I was against Clevinger signing with the Sox, but I admit I was wrong. He was very competitive in the second half of the season. I wasn’t hoping the Sox would resign him because I knew they wouldn’t. He would have fit well with the Sox, but his numbers were just too good for Getz. I hope he signs with a contender.

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        • andrewc62

          1 year ago

          Sad

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    • Mr. E Team

      1 year ago

      Giants have a policy against signing players with DV incidents.
      Their management…

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        It’s funny when fans act like these teams have morals. They don’t have any such policy in place. Same way they didn’t for steroids (obviously), sign stealing, or whatever current cheating is rampant across the MLB.

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        • avenger65

          1 year ago

          Beff: MLB is hypocritical. They ban Rose from BB and the HOF because he gambled. Now every broadcast includes the betting line before, and sometimes during, games. Time for that lame brain Manfred to stop messing with the game and work to get Rose and Shoeless Joe into the HOF, where they obviously belong.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          @avenger I completely agree about baseball and Manfred. Many people hate him for failing to punish the Astros players, but I hate him for failing to out EVERYONE who was cheating, and how. I firmly believe the players were given immunity to protect MLB, as long as they agreed to take the heat, and not tell the whole truth.

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    • nukeg

      1 year ago

      Giants are my pick.

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  2. BforBrad

    1 year ago

    I’m sure at this point he’s looking for a lot more than 2/26M.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      And I’m looking for ways to double my “size.” Looks like neither of us are getting what we want.

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  3. 178iq

    1 year ago

    Think he’ll sign with the Yankees? Nope. Doesn’t want to be told how to cut his hair or shave. Yankees suck.

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    • 28in2019

      1 year ago

      How old are you toughguy? I’m thinking you’re about 10 years old. Get a life

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      • spudchukar

        1 year ago

        Old enough to tell the Yankees they can go to hell. Some people are like that. Thank God!

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      • HardkoreHam

        1 year ago

        “I’m thinking you’re 10 years old, what I’m saying is, I’m insulting a little kid.”

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        • Matthew De Lorge

          1 year ago

          Given all of the facts about today’s youth and the parenting of them, I would say insulting him is perfectly fine.

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        • just_thinkin

          1 year ago

          So kids have bad parents therefore insult the kids?

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          When its deserved.

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        • avenger65

          1 year ago

          No, insulting the parents is perfectly fine.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          1 year ago

          The fact that we have to deal with these kids is an insult to us and all of humanity.

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      • Kotton

        1 year ago

        28in2019 I’m not sure how old he is but he’s telling us he has 1 IQ of 78 so give him a break will ya.

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      • 178iq

        1 year ago

        Hahaha still waiting for #28? Waiting since 2019 hahahaha I bet you blame the Astros. Some Yankees fans are so pathetic. Just admit it, yes currently they suck and let’s see what 2024 brings. 82-80 lmao

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      • BaseBall Bob

        1 year ago

        For clarification, what is it you take exception with? The cut and shave comment or “Yankees suck”? FYI .. a lot of people nationwide think the Yankees suck and many people think the cut and shave rule is out of date. Me, I love the tradition of the Yankees, part of which is the logo and Yankee pinstripes.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          The Yankees have zero issue with steroids, cheating, domestic violence, etc…but you want facial hair or long hair?? The audacity!!

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        • jeff512

          1 year ago

          They signed a round didn’t they

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        • jeff512

          1 year ago

          Oops meant a roid

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        • avenger65

          1 year ago

          I hate the Yankees. I hate the cubs. But that’s alright because it’s just sports. You can vent your opinion about who you hate because it’s harmless. I’m not going to burn a nyy or cub uniform. I’m not going to write scathing letters to their players. It’s just a way to blow off steam. In interviews their players seem like nice guys, so I guess it’s the uniform and the media putting them on a pedestal is my complaint.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          @avenger, completely agree with you (again). People should look inside themselves and determine their real issues if they feel the need to seek out a player and personally go after them.

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    • melfman1

      1 year ago

      You are a broken record. Wish I could pull the plug.

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    • 178iq

      1 year ago

      Yankee fans get so bent out of shape. The Yankees went 2 games over .500. That’s irrefutable PROOF that currently they SUCK. HOW CAN YOU ARGUE WITH THAT?!?!

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  4. soxshortstop

    1 year ago

    Chaim Breslow says he is interested.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      I agree, I think he would be a good fit for that price. Enough for the purse to handle.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        I had to warm up to it, but I’d like it. If we spent $26M-28M/2, there would still be enough left in the budget for a Monty/Snell type. A rotation of:

        Monty/Snell
        Bello
        Giolito
        Clevinger
        Crawford

        Should be above average, and without the wild variance we’ve had in past years.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          @joebrady I think there would be good bit of health concerns with that rotation, but you are correct, it would have a fairly high ceiling.

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    • I.M. Insane

      1 year ago

      He’d have been a better signing than Gio (Storm) Lito.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        I’m not so sure about that. It could be similar. I was just comparing Giolito to Sean Manea. Giolito had a bad second half last year but he still almost doubled Manea’s WAR count for the year and has better career numbers than Manea for almost the same price.

        And let’s be honest- you aren’t getting any pitcher cheap with all these inflated deals.

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        • I.M. Insane

          1 year ago

          Just thinking Clevinger has far better control and gives up fewer homers. Two major factors.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          Everyone uses homers against Giolito. Last year could have easily been an anomoly- he’s given up far less homers other years.

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    • BloodySox

      1 year ago

      Probably not because it would actually help the team

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  5. Big whiffa

    1 year ago

    Padres reunion ?

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    • Now Yu Know

      1 year ago

      His price tag is pretty high

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      • towinagain

        1 year ago

        What I don’t want the Padres doing is gutting the farm in trades for 4th and 5th starters.

        Don’t gut the farm in trades for marginal players simply to fill out the roster.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        26 million over 2 years is not bad, if he signs for that

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    • VegasSDfan

      1 year ago

      And his skills have diminished. I would pass.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        10 million a year seems to be the basic for a slightly above average pitcher now. Inflation has skyrocketed all the prices.

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      • BaseBall Bob

        1 year ago

        Many pitchers have had successful second half careers by finding a different way to get hitters out. If healthy, he is worth a shot when you look at some of the slop that takes the mound each night. As hard as it is to find, a guy who knows how to pitch should be able to give you four to five acceptable innings each night. And really, that’s all they ask for today.

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      • avenger65

        1 year ago

        Vegas: Don’t underestimate Clevinger. He’ll give his team everything he’s got. Went 7-8 innings in a few games, probably because he didn’t want the bullpen to blow yet another lead.

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  6. towinagain

    1 year ago

    Welp, bring him and Bauer to SD. That’s what Padres ownership has us hoping for. Although, Clevinger will be too expensive ugh

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  7. Deleted Userr

    1 year ago

    Wondering to this day why he didn’t get blackballed like Trevor Bauer.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      1 year ago

      He didn’t punch anyone up the tailpipe?

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      • Deleted Userr

        1 year ago

        Nor did Bauer

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          Okey donkey.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          In today’s America, evidence is not required. It is all about “feelings”.

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          Thanks for taking the time to explain, Joe. You seem to have a full and satisfying life. You’re the best.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          De nada.

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        • Candlestoked

          1 year ago

          Wrong, joebrady. You still need evidence in USA if you want to prove a charge.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          I was being sarcastic.

          I find it amazing that people will judge others, even without a shred of evidence. The, even when presented with evidence that the person is innocent, still won’t change their minds.

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          The question to ask is, would you really let Trevor Bauer anywhere near your tailpipe?

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        • Deleted Userr

          1 year ago

          I wouldn’t let anyone including but not limited to Trevor Bauer there.

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          Just to be safe, you should probably swap out “including but not limited to” with ‘especially’.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          The question to ask is, would you really let Trevor Bauer anywhere near your tailpipe?
          ===========================
          No. But I also have no objections against you and your partner having an interest in each other’s tailpipes. It’s none of my business

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          Thanks for taking the time to explain yet again, Joe. You’re still the best.

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    • Johnny Vander Meer

      1 year ago

      Completely agree, Clevinger is human garbage.

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    • Johnny Vander Meer

      1 year ago

      I read the whole thing expecting at least a couple of words here or there about it. Nothing. Terrible.

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    • drasco036

      1 year ago

      Probably because MLB investigated it and found no validity to the claim (if we are thinking of the same issue).
      Granted, the claim I’m referring to happened after the season ended and Clevinger already signed with the White Sox but MLB didn’t suspend him, like they do with every player, they investigated, decided she was lying and Clev faced no actions.
      He did have the whole Covid protocol issue which kind of led to him being traded to the Padres but as far as I know, that is it.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        That’s why I figure he is innocent. Manfred will suspend a player for bumping into someone on subway.

        He was wrong on not obeying the Covid rules, but that doesn’t bother me much.

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      • Johnny Vander Meer

        1 year ago

        I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle and if he did even half of the things he was accused of he’s a terrible person.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        There is no halfway here.

        1-She belongs in jail.

        2-Bauer deserves every penny that he signed for.

        Anything short of that, and we are rewarding behavior that was likely illegal. The dude sounds kind of weird, and certainly he is socially awkward.

        But folks that are socially awkward and unpopular already have to deal with bullying. Changing the laws to punish them further is unnecessary.

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      • drasco036

        1 year ago

        I find the Bauer issue interesting, and maybe I’m a horrible person but I know several woman who have wanted rough intercourse and I enjoyed myself while appeasing them.
        People may want to look at the significant others search history before accusing people of being “weird” or “horrible”.

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  8. big_balls_mahoney

    1 year ago

    I would like him on my braves as a 5th starter. Sale has so much injury risk, it wouldn’t be the worst idea to have another potential upside inning eating vet to go along with sale. Having elder as solid depth in case someone inevitably does get hurt feels like a solid strategy. It’s doubtful they get him but if the price isn’t higher I’d be good with it

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    • Drew Waters Bat

      1 year ago

      Ummmmmmm, I don’t know about as “Solid Depth”, for Bryce Elder. Stats wise he is the number 3 starter ahead of both Chris Sale and Charlie Morton. Neither of them have the stats to touch Elder right now. He is closer to Max Fried than Charlie Morton. I would like to see Clevinger battle for a rotation spot but currently, no spots. Winans would be depth. Ynoa needs to either be allowed to battle for the 5th rotation spot or be traded. I’m a diehard Braves fan and seen over the years how valuable/good pitchers, are wasted to be a taxi as a quick call up for 3 years until their abilities have wasted away. Glad they didn’t keep doing the same to Vaughn and allowed him to get a full spot somewhere. But this will be 3 years of Ynoa trying for a spot and as far as “Stuff” goes, it’s right behind Strider, some days can battle him for the top. Players are losing their value too much here.

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      • stymeedone

        1 year ago

        Clevinger isn’t going to sign with a team where he might start. He will sign as a starter. Middle relief doesn’t pay well going forward.

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    • big boi

      1 year ago

      Clevinger would be a bit expensive just to be eating innings tho..

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    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      1 year ago

      I don’t want him in Atlanta.

      One, they have better options for the rotation already on the roster that won’t cost 13m. As Waters Bat pointed out, if Elder holds form, Morton is probably the 5th starter stats-wise.

      Two, they already have the depth to cover it if Sale and/or Morton miss some regular season starts. The young pitchers they have are more than capable of posting stats similar to Clevinger.

      Three, if they were going to hand out another big FA contract this off-season, I’d rather they went out and got Hader. Another lights out lefty in the pen better helps them get past Philadelphia (their Achilles heel) and LA in the postseason.

      Four, Clevinger’s past doesn’t suggest he’s a good human being.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Atlanta was be paying for a net negative there. They are one of the last times that should sign him. Much better off without him.

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  9. Chemo850

    1 year ago

    This article is kind of ignorant. The guy got blackballed. He’s not signing with anyone. Numbers are trending in the wrong direction and the allegations are enough for people to stay away from him. Might as well sign a more superior talent in Trevor B. at the same risk level.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      Bauer was given the longest suspension in MLB history. Hardly the same risk level.

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      • Chemo850

        1 year ago

        He was basically just exonerated and I’m sure MLB will end up having to make nice with him before it’s all over. Especially since he now has a possible winning lawsuit on his hands.

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        • leftyleftylefty

          1 year ago

          You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          If MLB doesn’t have someone sign Bauer, then the grifter wins. The whole motivation for a shakedown is the threat to expose someone,.

          As it stands today, Bauer is out tens pf millions, while the grifter is not out a penny.

          Next time a major player is targeted, they will cut checks no matter how much evidence the player has.

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        • Longtimecoming

          1 year ago

          Joe – or maybe “the next time” the player will just use some common sense and say “no thank you, I don’t hit women even in some kinky sex act” as a way to keep their balls out of a vise!

          Just a thought for those can know what that is

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          I’m not into it, but folks into BDSM in some form or another, is probably half the population. As kind of a castle doctrine libertarian, I tend to not judge what other consenting adults choose to do.

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        • Longtimecoming

          1 year ago

          Joe
          When people stop judging actions and putting standards in place anarchy results.

          If you want to to defend or justify or allow the admitted conduct you have issues that a civilized society won’t allow – thankfully.

          That is why you do those things behind closed doors and curtains and don’t publicize it / keep it secret.

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        • Longtimecoming

          1 year ago

          I can’t take you anymore Joe.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          Then leave the chat. If someone else’s opinions/thoughts trigger you that much, just do what the Karens do. Start screaming erratically until your voice gives out.

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        • Chemo850

          1 year ago

          It hasn’t even been validated that he hit her at all since the evidence suggests it was entirely a lie…

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          I doubt anyone believes anything she said.

          I think the issue has more to do with a certain portion of America being uncomfortable with non-traditional bedroom activities.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Longtimecoming1 hour ago
          I can’t take you anymore Joe.
          =========================
          It’s called cognitive dissonance. People don’t like being confronted with their own internal inconsistencies and biases.

          There are about 7B of you out there, so you are certainly not alone.

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      • kroeg49

        1 year ago

        Think the 1919 White Sox players had the longest suspensions.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      Numbers for Bauer rarely trended in the right direction. He had one good season and that was a 62 game season during covid.

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  10. Old York

    1 year ago

    Not sure he’s worth $13.6M per year to put up Forecasted Run Averages of 4.59 with an ERA – FRA of -0.823514, suggesting some regression in 2024.

    I could see somewhere in the ballpark of $10M per year but in this inflated market for pitchers, he’ll probably get that $14M per year.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      That’s just the thing. The market is heavily inflated, which is sickening.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      Once Lynn signed for $12MM, that became the new minimum wage for starters. Almost everyone can argue they were better than Lynn last year.

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        I could probably get 2-3 on the current market!

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  11. padrepapi

    1 year ago

    Wacha does have a stronger recent track record but it’s kinda crazy that he has reached free agency 5 times already, won 88 games with a career 3.96 era over 1288 innings, good for 16 fWAR yet prior to 2024 never made 8m in a season.

    Clevinger was so mediocre for San Diego in 2022 that he only pitched 2 games (2.2 IP, 7 er) during their 3 postseason series yet got 12.5m in his first go at free agency.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      Clevinger is a whole 1.0 WAR better (3.3 to 2.4) and has the better FIP

      Small sample size in SD

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  12. Matthew De Lorge

    1 year ago

    How have the Yankees not walked away with this guy yet?

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Doesn’t want to sell out his morals and preferences to be on a team that finishes around .500.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      He won’t cut his hair maybe

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  13. martras

    1 year ago

    Obviously, off the field PR concerns with Clevenger, but the truth is he’s probably just asking for a lot more to see if teams get aggressive after losing out on some big names.

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  14. RyanD44

    1 year ago

    No mention of the abuse allegations? Come on.. don’t pick and choose which players you bash.

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    • PutPeteinthehall

      1 year ago

      Allegations that were unsubstantiated. Everyone has rights. The other players named in the comments have substantiated conduct violations that led to suspension. Courts are full of lawsuits for slander/defamation. Allegations that were not found to be truthful being published coupled with no contract could lead to a lawsuit.

      Looks like almost everything else costing 40 percent more has also translated to the cost of signing a player.

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      • RyanD44

        1 year ago

        What makes one unproven case more believable than another? The allegations against Clevinger were terrible – including throwing a chew-spit bottle at a child.

        Bauer at least proved his main accuser was lying. The other allegations are super fishy. The one from Cincinnati is complete hogwash.

        A bunch of females trying to get their piece of a pie.

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        • troy

          1 year ago

          “A bunch of females”

          Wtf

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        • D-Nice

          1 year ago

          He could’ve said “a bunch of ska*ks”, and he wouldn’t have been inaccurate. The only difference is you would’ve been even more upset lol

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        • RyanD44

          1 year ago

          Yea I don’t see why this is so hard for ppl to believe.. Bauer is being extremely transparent with it all.. Unlike all the other players in DV or SA cases, he’s actually fighting it.

          Sure, if he’s guilty, he’s a terrible human and deserves the worst punishment possible.. but based off what I’ve seen, read, heard and researched myself – I think he’s weird, but not guilty.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          The accuser basically confessed to a shakedown. But once people made the decision to believe her, they aren’t capable of changing their minds.

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      • Chemo850

        1 year ago

        Actually…none of the allegations against Bauer were substantiated. In fact, mainly tilted towards before more inaccurate than anything

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      Let’s just hate on Alex Cora and call it a day.

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  15. CATS44

    1 year ago

    On one hand, Clevinger certainly fits in at $13 mil for a year or two, looking at what some other older/fading starters are getting.

    Lance Lynn
    Kyle Gibson
    Wacha
    Tyler Anderson
    Montas
    Flaherty

    On the other hand, teams are beginning to discover that off the field deportment can lead to expensive and embarrassing costs that can no longer be ignored.

    I do not know if the seeming lack of significant interest in Clevinger is due to non performance issues, nor am I inferring such, but the possibility exists.

    Multiple franchises have been bitten big time by off the field miscreants, and as executives move between front offices, the number of organizations that are no longer willing to take those kind of gambles increase.

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  16. stymeedone

    1 year ago

    Maybe his agent has instructions from the player to keep a low profile in the media.

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  17. Windowpane

    1 year ago

    Yeah, Clevinger was purty good 5 years ago. A lot of guys were purty good 5 years ago. Why bring up stats that old?

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  18. Fisherman 4:19

    1 year ago

    After watching almost all the Sox games last season, aside from Cease, he was the only other pitcher I didn’t cringe when they were starting. He worked hard and I would like him back.
    Lynn however will be 12 mil down the tubes.

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  19. thefaithfulfriar

    1 year ago

    Don’t want to see him back in SD although another starter is expected prior to ST. Not because of the off-field BS or fading ability to pitch at a high level. It’s that windup. I can’t stand it. It’s hard to watch.

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  20. slider32

    1 year ago

    Clevenger is a perfect fit for the Yanks, Clevenger eats innings, and has good upside. Since 2000 he has a 6.4 WAR which puts him right in the Montas, Manaea, Javier, Luzardo profile!

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  21. Mike Adamson

    1 year ago

    I would love to see him in Pittsburgh! We need SP bad as the rotation looks awful! It would look a lot better with Keller and Clevinger at the top!

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    • Braves_saints_celts

      1 year ago

      I’m glad Im not the only one thinking the pirates would be a great fit for him. Plus the pirates have stated that they will probably be adding another starter.

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  22. letsgooakland123

    1 year ago

    Decent fit for anybody who needs reliable, unspectacular starting pitching (SD, BOS, OAK, PIT, SF, NYM, MIN, etc) but the DV allegations last offseason are probably the reason he’s not getting the Manaea/Maeda/Martinez deal.

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  23. HalosHeavenJJ

    1 year ago

    He’d be a nice fit here.

    I’d much rather add 200 innings between a starter and quality reliever than 130 innings of just Snell.

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  24. alumofuf

    1 year ago

    Yankees should sign him. Then sign Snell. Move Schmidt to the bullpen and then sign Trevor Bauer.

    Starting pitching better and now bullpen stronger.

    Yankees lose no players via trade as well.

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  25. bravesfan

    1 year ago

    I think the Braves are 100% done with going after pitching, but I’d like them to take a chance on him as our #5. No hate against elder but a rotation that would have Fried, Strider, Sale, Morton, Clevinger would be absolutely sick. Fried and Morton with nasty breaking pitches, Strider with the power arm, and sale/MC coming in hot with funky arm angles… lord, I’d feel sorry for the team that had to go against us. Elder could be long relief or even a 6th starter against the weak teams to give our guys a bit of rest. Call me crazy, but that extra 13 mil a year to get MC would be worth it to me

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  26. TribeFan88

    1 year ago

    Clevinger pitched to a 3.77 ERA in 131.1 innings with the White Sox in 2023. If he lands with a team competing for a playoff spot in 2024, I could see him reaching double-digit wins for the first time since 2019.

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  27. radhippo

    1 year ago

    Angels Peary Minasian likes these type of 1-2 year rebuild projects. I could see the Angels giving him a 1year deal with an option. He could pitch in the back of the rotation and add depth with no pressure. He might surprise. If not

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  28. desertball

    1 year ago

    He fits in with too many teams but he’s getting the Bauer treatment

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  29. jimij

    1 year ago

    I wish the Reds would take a flyer on Trevor Bauer, he had success with them and will do what it takes to address his bad reputation, with community service and could mentor the young players on his pitching knowledge

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    • TribeFan88

      1 year ago

      @jimij It certainly seems like someone should give Trevor Bauer another MLB chance, he could probably still be a very effective pitcher.

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  30. CrikesAlready

    1 year ago

    Buddies with a very innocent Trevor Bauer, Clevinger did do Lindsay Hill before Trevor. Lindsay was a Padres employee too.

    He’s made possibly worse choices than Bauer because Clevinger also had a baby by another woman around the same time. At least power got it all in writing and has video to prove his innocence.

    Yeah, there might be a real solid reason why he’s not being rumored with any team right now…

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  31. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    1 year ago

    “Dominant as Clevinger was” is not proper grammar. It’s “AS dominant as Clevinger was.” You can’t just leave “as” out. Be better.

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