The Padres still have plenty of question marks in the rotation as Spring Training begins, and such free agent starters as Hyun Jin Ryu, Michael Lorenzen, and Eric Lauer have all reportedly been on the team’s radar. Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune adds another veteran arm to that list, as the Padres have also shown interest in Noah Syndergaard.
Reports indicated back in November that several teams had already checked in on Syndergaard, though the Pirates and now the Padres are the only clubs publicly linked to the righty’s market. It is fair to suggest that Syndergaard may be viewed as a fallback option for many of these potential suitors, who prioritized more clearcut rotation upgrades before turning to more speculative bounce-back candidates like Syndergaard.
The 31-year-old threw only 88 2/3 innings over 18 starts with the Dodgers and Guardians last year, as blister problems sent him to the injured list for about seven weeks and Syndergaard’s season ended prematurely when Cleveland released him at the end of August. An excellent 4.9% walk rate was just about the only highlight of Syndergaard’s 2023 campaign, as he posted a 6.50 ERA and a tiny 14.3% strikeout rate while allowing a lot of hard contact and averaging only 92.2mph of velocity on his fastball.
It was a disappointing step back for the former Mets ace, who was once one of the National League’s top pitchers before injuries took a toll on his career. A Tommy John surgery cost Syndergaard virtually all of the 2020-21 seasons, though he had at least decent numbers (3.94 ERA, 5.5% walk rate) over 134 2/3 frames with the Angels and Phillies in 2022. However, the red flags were already in present in drops in strikeouts, velocity, and barrel rate, so Syndergaard ended signing a one-year, $13MM deal with the Dodgers last winter.
Acquiring Syndergaard wouldn’t exactly guarantee more stability for the Padres’ collection of arms, given this recent track record. Expecting a return to his Cy Young candidate form is looking increasingly far-fetched, yet given the Friars’ pitching needs and budgetary limitations, Syndergaard might be the kind of relatively inexpensive veteran who could be a fit at the back end of the rotation.
Yu Darvish, Joe Musgrove, and Michael King line up as the top three in the rotation, though King has a limited track record as a starting pitcher. Projected fourth/fifth starter candidates Pedro Avila, Jhony Brito, and Randy Vasquez have limited track records in the big leagues altogether — Avila has thrown only 63 2/3 frames across four MLB seasons, and Brito (90 1/3 IP) and Vazquez (37 2/3 IP) only made their MLB debuts with the Yankees last season. As Acee notes, simply covering innings is going to be a challenge for San Diego even if everyone stays healthy, so signing Syndergaard or a comparable veteran might be almost a necessity to help lessen the workload for the more inexperienced starters.
At this point, Thor will just get hammered
“Thor will just get hammered”…Well, he’ll still have that “Prince of Asgard” thing to fall back on, right?
It could be worse, his new nickname with the Friars could be Jake Arrieta 2.0
We don’t speak that name.
Johnny Cueto!!! JOHNNY Cueto!!!!!
If this move doesn’t prove the Padres are punting in 2024, I don’t know what does?
Then again, not even a move, just “interest” which in Padre land these days is as good as a move.
Padres “hey, we are ‘interested'” “that has to count for something”
Increase the “interest” rumors. Don’t sign anyone but hey there is a lot of activity going on.
Fans shouldn’t be hard on the Padres. Look at how many players they are interested in.
MLB would prefer the Padres stay a small market team.
When Peter Seidler and the previous equity group went all in, they encouraged Preller to spend.
The previous equity group had the capital to spend, the current equity group sans the Helu family does not.
Nor does the current equity group want to spend, see Arctos Sports as an influential entity behind the current ownership group.
How Preller spen the money is not as important as to who is currently funding the team.
CBT and the debt service rules are merely excuses/diversions to occupy fans time with.
MLB favors large market teams
MLB wants large market teams to be front and center.
MLB wants small market teams to be role players
This is verging on tinfoil hat conspiracy mongering. I would try to place yourself in the shoes of an outside objective non-partisan observer and see where things stand from that vantage point.
You realize its literally the same ownership group just minus Siedler
I’ll let the facts speak for themselves
It an equity group compromised of multiple members. Those members often change unbeknownst to fans.
Peter Seidler was the focal point of the previous ownership group.
Without his direction, shifts can happen fast.
See Arctos Sports.
While Arctos controls a minority share innthe Padres, the way they operate is based on sheer profit.
Lower overhead increase ticket prices.
Profit margin.
MLB favors smaller markets spending less.
The Padres, under Peter Seidler challenged that narrative thus setting an unfavorable precedent for other owners in similar markets.
Crush the Padres and prove that increasing payroll doesn’t equate to winning, except if your the Dodgers.
Did I miss something? Did the Padres make a move?
God NO!!!!
While trying to lessen the workload on the starting pitchers, Padres management should not increase the workload on the bullpen.
Retire, noah. No more!!!
Why retire if you can get 8 million for pitching horribly? That’s what the market is nowadays.
Guess Kershaw is way underpaid
He slept with that barstool podcaster but obviously I wasn’t there so I can’t prove it
Thanks for sharing.
One of these days the Gossip Train will be heading in your direction, sir.
That “excellent 4.9% walk rate” probably coupled with a 95.1% hard hit rate
Exactly, guys who walked were seriously depressed.
“He should not get anything”…Thor has banked around $32M+ the last couple yrs, all in the hope that he can return to what he once was. It’s a pretty good gig if you can get it.
The only reason to bring him in would be to have him throw BP.
Syndergaard is the textbook definition of a one-year deal type pitcher lol
With an opt out at the end of March, for the team!
This guy is a hoot. He goes from “everything they touch turns to gold,” with the Dodgers, to “…I’ve had a lot of cooks in the kitchen, a lot of people thinking they can come out and fix me…I just think (I should) go out there and not really listen to what people think I should and should not be doing, but just do what feels good and natural to me.”
He wants to pitch like he used to, but he can’t because he doesn’t have the velocity. Then, he complains about anyone trying to work with him with what he has left in the tank.
+1 for radical username …haven’t seen that one before
Why?
Shouldn’t the outfield be the top priority for the Pads? Truth be told, their rotation as is has some nice upside.
Count me as yet another Yankee fan who wasn’t enamored with what we gave up for Soto. King, Brito and Vasquez are going to be more productive than most fans think.
Truth be told the Padres have a lot of holes to full both hitters and pitchers.
Did you jump straight to the comments section? The Padres already have 6 SPs competing for 5 spots. Time to pivot to the outfield.
6 starters in a competition isn’t enough going into a season, particularly when at least 3 are big question marks.
It’s a shame to see the Padres dumpster diving.
Padres have the following starters that can all see time in the rotation this year.
Musgrove, darvish, king, Vasquez, Brito, Waldron, Avila, iriarte, Thorpe, snelling and Mazur.
That’s 11 guys. Some of them will start in the minors but maybe needed in the second half.
That’s before going to guys they hope never have to pitch at all.
Padres are looking for an innings eater to help protect these young arms. Especially if darvish or mistgrove go down to injury.
That’s not a competitive rotation at all
I’ll take it over the cardinals rotation king. Just realize who you were before. I’m starting to remember why I muted that account.
You are so argumentative.
You would truly take that over the Cardinals rotation?
Come on now. Brito and Vasquez are worse than Liberatore and Thompson and that’s the Cardinals 6th and 7th starters. Dervish is fading. Musgrove can’t stay healthy. And who knows what King is. That’s a bad rotation.
I would take any of the Padres starters over Lance Lynn, who the Cardinals expect to make the rotation. Easily the worst contract this off-season.
What about Ohtani’s?
It might end up being a bad contract. But Liberatore and Thompson are around if he fails.
The Padres have no depth. And no talent. The rotation is not playoff contender worthy.
To be fair Black…I’d take those two over Lynn and Gibson (lib and Thompson). I do like the signing of gray. I just feel like it’s gray and a bunch of backend guys.
Of course injuries can happen. If mustgrove goes down then that would hurt badly.
Just to be clear I don’t love the padres rotation. I think they need to add a mid or better rotation arm to be good. Barring some of these young guys stepping up big time.
With that said I’d still prefer the padres current rotation over the cards.
Many say it’s the worst contract of all time. 700 million for a 30 year old who won’t even pitch the first season and who knows how much more time or how good he will be if/when he does pitch again.
The Cardinals don’t have a number 2. But the Padres don’t have an ace. They have a couple guys with number 2 potential who are very risky in King and Musgrove. Darvish is getting old he’s similar to Mikolas. The Padres problem is depth they don’t have any at all. Vazquez and Brito should be your 6th and 7th starters not 4th and 5th.
Well he’s definitely not going to be an ace this season. Arm surgery to repair his defective arm. Full time DH at best this season (and who knows for how much more time beyond that). The points stand.
Padres have 4 guys I would call 5th ish starters. Vasquez, Brito, Avila and Waldron.
The padres have a number of prospects that have great talent. Including snelling who they have already said they hope can help them this year. Thorpe has a little less talent but is still a top 100 guys who was the minor league pitcher of the year. He is 23, college guy who will get a shot at the rotation this spring according to the padres. So I think you are undervaluing the talent they have or will have soon as this year.
True, but that doesn’t mean they should have dropped $700 million on Ohtani. The points stand.
Dude the Cardinals have talented minor leaguers too. But they aren’t relying on them in 2024 and the Padres shouldn’t be relying on theirs either.
Padres lost Snell, Wacha, Lugo and Martinez right? And who did they replace those 4 with?
Right, they should let the pitchers progress. Not jump straight to giving Ohtani $700 million
Martinez was push to the pen, they gave rush hill starts last over him.
Nobody is replacing what snell did last year. King will do his best and he may be quite good.
The Padres starters were one of the best in the league. No padres fan expects that from this group.
Time will tell as I’ve said I don’t love their rotation and I don’t expect to be as good as last year. I just like it more than the cards rotation. I’m also not afraid to say I could be wrong.
When I am saying is they have some starter options. I’m more concerned about their ability to pitch the innings needed. Hence why the padres are still looking to add to that group.
How could you possibly like the Padres rotation over the Cardinals? It’s not as good. The Cardinals have more talent and more depth. And they really don’t have a good rotation but it’s better than the Padres rotation. The Cardinals need a number 2. The Padres need an ace and a number 4 and 5 starter.
And how the heck do you have the nerve to talk trash about Lance Lynn in an article about the Padres possibly signing Syndergaard?
I think the padres top 3 are better than the cards top three collectively. I’ll take my chances not matter who are the 4-5 guy over Gibson and Lynn.
Mustrgove and king I believe both have top of the rotation stuff. Darvish can be a solid 3 when he is right or better.
You can disagree and I’m sure would have some valid points. It’s just my opinion on how I think it will play out or at least hope. Which is all a fan can have this time of the year.
Anyways good talk.
Do you think they only talk to one player at a time?
Top 3 collectively lol. That’s not how it works cheif. You need 5 guys to form a rotation and depth when people inevitably get hurt.
Again this is an article about the Padres considering Syndergaard. Good luck with him. I don’t think he’s gonna move the needle.
@Kentucky, Ohtani was not given $700M. He was given a contract calued at $460M he chose to have majority of deferred. LAD will only pay $460M the other $240M will be paid by whatever financial institution $ is invested with.
As far as value, that might be the best value a team will get for a contract. They will bring in alot more than the $460M paid out in revenue.
Yes 5 man rotation…I said I like the top 3 over the cards top 3. I also said I like our 4-5 options better than Lynn and Gibson…that
Is 5.
And I think Syndergaard has been trash. As you have pointed out the padres aren’t spending money this year. So if they sign him it is likely dirt cheap where they take a flyer on him. If he sucks no big deal.
I would take Lynn over Syndergaard or Vazquez or Brito that’s for sure. Vazquez and Brito are complete nobodies. Again the Cardinals 6th and 7th starters are better than them.
The Padrees have a couple risky number 2s and Darvish and that’s it. That’s all they have is 3 starters the rest is junk.
I like Hray at top of Cards rotation. After that Mikolas is a huge overpay who has had 2 good seasons in his career. Lynn seems finishes and Matz has been underwhelming overall but seems to always pull a short string of solid outings. Gibson is back of rotation arm, I do however like his consistency as far as being available and being an average pitcher.
But all and all I don’t think they come close to comparing to Pads rotation.
I don’t trust Ohtani.
Well I bet at the end of the season the padres starting staff has a lower era than the cardinals.
We can revisit this during the season and at the end. Clearly we don’t agree on this.
If I’m wrong I’ll be sure to let you know I was. Which is something I believe you would have a hard to doing. Instead I expect you to give me excuses. I hope the cardinals rotation is all you hope it will be. With that said this debate is over for me until the season starts anyways.
Whether you trust him or not is irrelevant. The $460M the he’ll ultimately cost the Dodgers is free. That was an investment that will bring in far more in revenue. Anything he does on the field is a bonus.
I was always a fan of the Cards and the way they seemed to always establish a competitive team. The first time I questioned them was Mikolas contract, just seemed a huge overpay for his erratic career and for a non power pitcher.
But the biggest turnoff was seeing a fanbase turn on their team so quick. Comments on every platform we’re so negative for a team having first true down season in over a decade.
Then there was an often crazy unrealistic view to some of their players worth. Nootbar who his a fine ballplayer, but the reverence many Cards fans hold for him is a bit baffling. Then some fans talking of flipping Donovan or Gorman for Kirby or Gilbert. Again fine ballplayers, but position players simply are not as valuable as young controllable arms in today’s game.
Their loss.
I never said the Cardinals have a good rotation I said the Padres have a bad rotation. You are the one who brought up the Cardinals and signing Lance Lynn in a freaking article about the Padres signing Syndergaard who is by all accounts worse.
Joel P never reads the articles. Just the comments.
Padres have 7, possibly 8, SP competing for 5 spots.
Musgrove, Darvish, and King locked in.
Avila, Vasquez, Brito, Waldron competing for #4 and #5 slots.
Morejon, Iriarte, Snelling, Thorpe and Bergert all have a shot at getting some starts in 2024.
Padres still have a need for a middle of the rotation LH starter, so possibility of a trade this offseason is strong.
Padres FO believes they have a CF that can at least replicate Grisham’s overall production, so they are only looking for LF right now. If Luis Robert was suddenly available in trade, that might change, but as of today, just a LF.
I don’t need to read the article I know what the Padres depth chart looks like fella. Those are not legit options only a biased homer would think they are.
So Joel P, you are saying you would take the 1st two here vs the 2nd two?
baseball-reference.com/players/t/thompza02.shtml
and
baseball-reference.com/players/l/liberma01.shtml
– VS –
baseball-reference.com/players/b/britojh01.shtml
and
baseball-reference.com/players/v/vasqura02.shtml
Are you serious?
Beyond that the Padres have Avila, Waldron, Snelling, Thorpe, Iriarte, Bergert, and Morejon. That is called depth.
Yes I would definitely take Liberatore and Thompson over Brito and Vazquez. Absolutely.
Cardinals defense made their pitchers look bad last year. You would know that if you were a Cardinals fan. Now you do.
Defense did not make Waino, Hudson, Mikolas look bad. They were simply bad. Matz was bad aside from a single streak of solid outings. Flaherty wasn’t anything special. Monty was the lone bright spot in their pitching. Defense might not have done a ton for them but far from reason Cards pitching was horrible.
Cards rotation was a glaring issue going into 2023. Now they have a rotation of Gray whose almost 35 Matz whose almost 33 and the epitome of a 5th starter. In the middle are 3 arms over 35. It’s again simply not a solid rotation. If you were a baseball fan and have watched Lynn, Mikolas, Gibson, Matz pitch you would know. Now you do 😉
He will ultimately cost the Dodgers $700 million.
So, you admit you really know nothing because you don’t even READ the articles. Thanks for the confirmation, Joel P.
BTW, we just showed you are wrong about Padres, so maybe try doing at least SOME reading in the future.
AND you showed that you don’t even know HOW to read the stats.
Joel P, there is a reason you have been banned from multiple sites and on multiple accounts on this site.
I pay attention to baseball I don’t need to read the article to know what’s going on with the Padres and their rotation. I have done my own research on it.
Who is we? Speak for yourself you only represent yourself nobody else. This is a Padres post you sure are tough when you are on your home turf. There is no we only you.
I know Brito and Vazquez aren’t that good. If you don’t know that you will soon enough.
‘Dirt cheap’ is a relative term.
A player who’s just going to end up DFA’d that costs $6mil is dirt cheap for the Dodgers. But for Los Pobres? Another story entirely. They would need for anyone making more than what they’re paying Matt Carpenter (to play for the Cards) to be a contributor.
The first two aren’t bad, though.
I dont trust Ohtani.
Hey Troll, please stay on topic. This is a Padres thread, not an Ohtani thread.
Kirby himself would be worth Jordan Walker, Tink Hence, Maysn Winn, with Nootbarr Gorman and Donovan as throw-in’s or table dressing. Jerry would still likely not make that trade. Kirby is future multiple Cy Young Award Winner, will average 20 BBs per season. Lifetime leader in WHIP. 300 game winner. George Kirbys do not grow on trees.
Joel P has such a unique voice. He could hide under any such random screen-name but we would all be able to spot him in no time. That’s not something you can say with just anybody.
I don’t think hide is the word I would use.
Nootbaar for Gilbert would have made sense back in November. Or Donovan for Miller.
I assume Kirby simply isn’t available.
I feel like Kentucky is talking to people that are in his head, not the people in the thread
I don’t like the tone.
Nootbar for Gilbert never would ve made sense. Controllable starting pitching is far more valuable than position players if each player is of equal talent value. That said Gilbert is far more talented and valuable to his position than Nootbar. Let alone on a one to one basis. Any notion otherwise is lying or flat-out deluaional.
LMFAO. Done your own research. You admit you don’t read the articles, and you don’t click on the links to actual stats. What kind of research are you doing? Listening to the voices in your head? Come on Joel P, you are a joke.
I look at stats on my own time fella. People learn at different paces and in different ways. I don’t judge anyone else but I have a unique memory for numbers. It’s ok I am sure you are doing your best.
“Another Yankees fan who wasn’t enamored…I was shocked the Yankees gave up so much, even when everyone knew the Pads HAD to trade Soto. I think it’s one of the better deals by Preller. Personally, if I’m the Yanks I would’ve slow played it, until the Pads realize there are not that many teams who want to PAY Soto and give up MAJOR talent to acquire him.
Money aside, this is how I look at that trade.
I am only using last year’s stats and King, Vasquez and Brito are likely to get more starts in Padres rotation which means a higher WAR even with slightly lower ERA.
Soto – 1 year @ 5.5 WAR
– VS –
King – 2 years @ 3.2 WAR
Vasquez – 6 years @ 1.0 WAR
Brito – 6 years @ 0.7 WAR
Higgy – 1 year of a great defensive backup catcher
Thorpe – Top 100 prospect/MiLB pitcher of year
Yankees get their big splash player that will sell tickets and possibly take them out of 4th place.
Padres fill 4 MLB needs and long term get far more production.
PS the Machado contract is a MAJOR concern. Not going to go well.
Tell us what else you got there in that Almanac, Biff!
His production dropped by half the first year of the new contract and he’s 31 now (he’s arguably 32 now, actually). Disaster.
He’s a future HOFer. See, I can play the prediction game, too!
Word around the campfire is they may reject Albert and Ichiro, so don’t be so sure.
Whose campfire and what are you all smoking there?
Baseball Insider World.
Never heard of them, and from the sounds of it they couldn’t be more of a misnomer.
They are smoking crack and an 8 ball a day each.
Commentators in geberal
“Commenters in general” on a website we’ve never heard of are sending “word around the campfire” that Ichiro and Albert aren’t Hall of Famers? This is getting rich…
They’re both first ballot shoe-ins, thank goodness we leave it to (mostly) proper voters.
Didnt say it was a website.
Nobody cares. Especially if all they have are moronic takes like that. Peace homey!
If you knew their names you would care
When is the next camping outing? Can I join too? I’ve always roast s’mores with the spirits of Steve Irwin, Crocodile Dundee, and Smokey the Bear and talk about cricket.
Nope!
Maybe you should take the word of someone who has more than 70 MLB hr
Nah bra, thanks tho! Aloha Kentucky
And more than 100 mlb SB. You’re welcome for the highlights
70 whole career hr and 100 sb? I guess the hall should inshrine that guy instead of Pujols and Ichiro.
Stellar Back to the Future quote….
Biff went to Radnor HS near where I grew up.
When I saw the header I refreshed my feed to make sure MLBTR wasn’t pulling an article from 2016.
Either Acee is just flat out wrong about everything or someone in the Padres FO is feeding him false info.
The Padres were one of 16 teams that attended a workout that included Lorenzen and Syndergaard. The Padres only interest is in Lorenzen, but his price has not come down to where they think he is worth it for a guy they see as a swingman like Martinez was for them.
They have no interest in Syndergaard on a major league deal, which is what he is asking for.
“Acee is just flat out wrong”…Acee has been right about pretty much everything he’s said the last year+. And this is even though many Pads fans ripped him for saying the Padres had to and would cut payroll this year.
Acee has dunked on MLBTR Pads fans for over 12 months now, particularly this websurfer fella whose been about 180 degrees backwards on everything so far
Show us where he was correct?
He was wrong about CBT payroll. Padres already above what he said was the limit.
Acee himself said he was wrong about debt service rule violation just one day later.
He was wrong about reason for loan. cisterra.com/tailgatepark if you wondering what the real reason that Ascendant Capital gave the Padres that loan.
BTW, you can see their name on that development.
He said that Soto would not be traded and that Cronenworth would be.
He said that Melvin would absolutely be back in 2024.
So many more.
So what exactly has he been right about?
Like what? Padres are already $15 million over the CBT payroll he said they had to stay under and even he walked back the BS about debt service violations.
So what exactly has he been correct about?
Sign him Pads. What could possibly go wrong?
I mean, it’s not like he’d cost much.
To a minor league deal with an invite to camp? Ok.
To a major league deal. Absolutely not.
Split contract?
The Padres should look into Clevinger again. I know he comes with baggage from the Trevor Bauer incidents, but he had a solid season for the White Sox last year.
Clevinger was definitely better than OK down the stretch especially. He might be set up to have his best year in some time if he’s now healthier. But the baggage… I think very possible that nobody claims him, despite the upside. Nobody seems to want to touch him, or Bauer. But then again, there is still an unusual number of unsigned guys with pitchers and catchers reporting in a few days, crazy. So who knows where/when some of these guys will sign, or if any will wind up sitting out much of the season. This has been an exceptionally unusual offseason, to say the least.
Have you noticed that Sunshine has had no teams interested in him this offseason? Not even the White Sox. What does that tell you?
I could see the Mansfield, TX native taking a NRI deal with Texas and hope to break camp. Working with Maddux could right the ship for some much needed first half help.
No no no no no
Bauer better
Bauer
4.51 ERA when not cheating with sticky substances. Bauer said exactly when he was using them on his YouTube channel so we know when. He is NOT better. Most teams have better available for MLB minimum.
Publicly admitted to beating women to get his rocks off. Even if consensual, that violates the MLB/MLBPA joint domestic Violence policy.
Convicted of violating that policy on 3 counts by both MLB and an Arbitrator when he appealed the MLB suspension.
He has said recently that he will not stop the behavior that got him suspended originally.
Lost the defamation lawsuit he filed the only time he went to court.
A cancer in the clubhouse. Look at how many former teammates have said they would not want to play with him again that he played with on 3 different teams.
Consistently toxic on social media.
A PR nightmare for whatever team if he is ever signed.
There is simply no benefit to signing him.
2.76 ERA in Japan last year.
MLB arbitration panels don’t “convict” players of things.
Where exactly did he say “he will not stop the behavior that got him suspended recently.”
Other players who did worse are still playing (Ozuna) and Marlins fans worship a literal murderer in Jose Fernandez.
Who are these pitchers who are supposedly better than Bauer right now who are available for the league minimum?
Not even in the top 20 in Japan. They have a pre-tacked ball and its smaller.
In the US when he didn’t cheat, and remember he TOLD us when he cheated, he had a 4.51 ERA.
Of course, MLB and the arbitration judge convicted him of breaking the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence policy. WTF else would you call it? Wait! Don’t answer that. I really don’t care what delusional apologist BS you will try to spin on here.
If you don’t k now where, you are not paying attention. Since you don’t know, you shouldn’t be commenting on it.
No player had EVER done worse up to the point of Bauer’s suspension. 3 counts against him of violating the JDV is huge. Urias may get the baseball death penalty since this will be his 2nd conviction by MLB of violating the policy.
If you can’t find pitchers that had a lower ERA than 4.51 that are making the minimum, I question your ability to even post a viable comment on a BASEBALL site. Maybe learn how to look up stuff like that, it’s not hard, then come back.
There are pitchers with lower ERA’s making the league minimum. They also cost multiple top 100 prospects. Bauer costs zero prospects.
Would yo0 also say they “convicted” Chapman, Urias and Ozuna of violating the DV policy? If you want to refer to it as “convicted’ for all players then that’s fine. It’s really just semantics at this point. Legally speaking MLB doesn’t have the authority to convict or assign factual guilt of anything to anyone.
Waldron for moniak from the Angels. But no to syndergaard.
Moniak to platoon with Azocar? Ok. That is a possibility.
Moniak is due for an absolutely monstrous regression in 2024 after a season when he had a .397 BABip, walked at a 4% rate, struck out 35% of the time, and had a 48 OPS+ against LHP.
If he is a starter that plays against LHP he will regress to around a .220-.230 BA and .670-680 OPS in 2024.
There are innings eaters, and then there are innings that eat Noah Syndergaard.
He has been pretty good at eating an inning or two before being pulled. Unfortunately those weren’t scoreless innings.
With the budget space they have left, they will pickup Profar and Robbie Grossman cheap, Lauer on a minors deal and Ryu on an incentive laden contract. Book it.
There ARE a number of guys out there who overpriced themselves, and the sweet spot for the Padres is that they can at least offer the perception that anyone signing with them may be in the playoff hunt (unlike, say, the Pirates, Red Sox, Nationals, etc.).
The Brewers used to make a killing with spring signings, and as soon as some of these guys start getting a little nervous, they’re going to want to sign with a team that gives them both an opportunity to start and a chance to win. It’s a fine line to walk if you’re a GM but opportunities for viable help on the cheap is out there.
Teams also start to have injuries in camp and have needs they didn’t have during the offseason. Stearns took advantage of that to get some players that were not available earlier in the offseason.
With the budget space they have left and the incredible number of solid prospects they will trade for Luzardo and Arozarena and sign Cooper or someone like him to DH.
LOL
On a minor league deal why not?
Man stick a fork in it.
Nah…they should pass!!!
Lame
Padres front office must be playing MLB The Show 16
Fangraphs expects this guy to provide 0.6 WAR in 2024. Is there no kid in the Padres system that could provide that?
The Padres are totally inept. They managed to spend a ton and go no where. They’re stuck with the worst contract of an active player in MLB (Machado). And now they want to bring on a batting practice pitcher who hasn’t been good since 2018?
@Luke I was unaware that they extended Machado (I live in Chicago and don’t follow the Padres closely). So they signed him to a 10 year deal originally prior to 2019, which would have been through his age 35 season, and then extended him for 5 more years, for his age 36-40 seasons? That is just crazy. I think he will be very good for a few more years, but why extend him when they already had him for a super long contract?
Very confused, if I missed something about the original contract or that would explain the extension, let me know.
@ Augusto – Machado had an opt out at the end of the season and stated that if an extension is not reached by Spring Training, he was going to opt out.
They should have let him walk then, my opinion. Extending anybody for a huge salary for their age 36-40 sesaons seems like a venture in self destruction. He should be very good for the next several years, but those last 5 years could be brutal.
Syndergaard is washed up. If the Guardians and Dodgers can’t fix you, you are toast.
As a Dodger fan and I’ll usually like be like yes everyone deserves a chance and if the Padres can add to the fodder I’m for it. But…… listen to your big brother The Dodgers here stay 100 miles away from this guy. Who stole 9 million from us last year. #NoToNoah
LOL, sure they are.
If the Dodgers could not fix him, I’d say he’s not fixable. I don’t think he’s worth more than a NRI.
Twins should give him a minor league deal. If he can’t hack it as a starter anymore maybe we could try him in the bullpen, see if his stuff plays up at all…
That is interesting, because at the bullpen that Lorenzen and Syndergaard threw for 16 different teams on January 23rd, the Padres scouts left after Lorenzen threw. They didn’t even stay to see Syndergaard throw about 20 minutes later.
Michael Lorenzen would be a much better fit for the Padres if they could work out a reasonable deal with him.
He made the All Star team last year/
He pitched very well as a #1 Starter in Detroit.
Lorenzon kind of faded at the end of last year with the Phillies/
But, if Lorenzon’s work load is managed properly and with Petco Park favoring pitching, the Padres would land the best #4 or # 5 Starter that that they have had in many moons.
Wacha and lugo were the 4/5 guys last year and they did very well. Better than Lorenzen.
Lorenzon’s 1.098 WHIP with the Tigers was better than Wacha’s and Lugo’s
If the Padres were to receive the Lorzenzon of the 1st 3/4 of the season, then advantage Lorenzen
I was thinking that Petco (pitcher’s park)
would be advantage for Lorenzon.
This could prove an interesting chapter of Noah’s arc…
I find it very interesting that there are actually professional baseball evaluators who have watched Syndergaard with a trained eye and come to the conclusion he can be a successful major league pitcher.
Why why why waste money on syndergard makes no sense . Just start Avila or Waldron at least they are cheap instead of the risks of a 6 ERA pitcher.
Spencer Turnbull formerly with the Detroit Tigers was “breaking out” before he had to have surgery and is now working his way back from it.
I would have signed Turnbull (Phillies grabbed him)
before Snydergaard.
Turnbull, when healthy was a #1 starter and had a recent no hitter before he went down for surgery.
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