The Yankees were frequently connected to Blake Snell while he was a free agent, but the lefty reportedly agreed to a two-year, $62MM deal with the Giants last night. Though Snell is off the board, the Yanks are still in the market for starting pitching, per Jon Heyman of The New York Post.
It’s understandable that the Yanks are still on the hunt for arms. They were often connected to Snell even before the recent news that ace Gerrit Cole is going to miss significant time due nerve inflammation and edema in his elbow.
Though the desire to add Snell seemed to be real, it appeared that the competitive balance tax was too much of an obstacle. The Yankees are set to be third-time payors of the tax and are already over the fourth and final threshold, meaning they face a 110% tax on any further spending. Snell didn’t find the long-term deal he was looking for, reportedly turning down a six-year, $150MM offer from the Yanks, and pivoted to a short-term pact with a high average annual value. Had the Yankees matched the $31MM AAV Snell got from the Giants, they would have had to pay $34.1MM in taxes as well.
That concern seemingly had them leaning towards a trade for Dylan Cease, since he’s still in his arbitration years and making just $8MM this year. But the Yanks missed out there as well, with Cease eventually getting shipped from the White Sox to the Padres. Heyman adds that they haven’t made much traction with other trade targets, such as Jesus Lúzardo of the Marlins.
But the need for reinforcements is apparent when looking at the rotation without Cole. Nestor Cortes went on the injured list due to a rotator cuff strain on two occasions last year and finished the season with a 4.97 ERA in 63 1/3 innings. Carlos Rodón dealt with a forearm strain and hamstring strain and posted a 6.85 ERA in his 64 1/3 innings. Marcus Stroman had a great first half but issues with his hip and rib cartilage pushed his ERA up to 3.95 by the end of the year.
Those three have each had much better results in the past but they are sort of wild cards now after their frustrating campaigns. Backing them up will be Clarke Schmidt, who had a 4.64 ERA last year. There would still be one spot open, with pitchers like Luke Weaver, Luis Gil, Clayton Beeter and Will Warren potential options. Weaver has finished three of the last four seasons with an ERA of 6.40 or higher. Gil underwent Tommy John surgery in May of 2022 and missed most of the last two years. Neither Beeter nor Warren have made their major league debuts yet.
The Yankees will understandably be open to upgrading that group, especially for a season in which they are clearly committed to winning. They sent five players to the Padres to get one season of Juan Soto, and two of Trent Grisham, and will pay Soto $31MM plus taxes in the process.
Opening Day is next Thursday but the club still has options, with various pitchers still unsigned thanks to this slow offseason. The club has been connected to pitchers like Michael Lorenzen and Jordan Montgomery, both of whom remain unsigned. Free agency also features guys like Mike Clevinger, Johnny Cueto and Noah Syndergaard. Earlier this month, reporting suggested Montgomery was still holding out for a seven-year deal but the other guys won’t require significant expenditures to sign.
With the start of the season so near, there would naturally be concern about a pitcher getting stretched out after missing so much of Spring Training. It seems Lorenzen has been getting himself ready on his own, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, who relays footage from Lorenzen’s agent of the righty throwing. Rosenthal reports that the righty recently threw 70 innings, getting up and down four times. He would likely still require some official game action but it doesn’t seem as though he would require a traditional six-week ramping up period.
Lorenzen has reportedly been seeking a two-year deal while also receiving interest from clubs like the White Sox and Mets.
10centBeerNight
Necessary
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Signing Thor would be the most desperate Asgaardian move since releasing the Fire Demon Surtur to destroy their entire home world.
CravenMoorehead
Thor would fit right in on that staff with his injury history
DR2020
I like your Norse analogies
DR2020
It would prematurely bring on Ragnarok
GP John
Funny it was on tonight
all in the suit that you wear
I wonder why no one has signed Clevenger to a one-year deal that he said he is seeking. Is his asking price too high?
baseballteam
Hair just too disgusting.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Ethically dubious
TigersLoveCinnamon
Maybe teams don’t like people that throw chew at children
all in the suit that you wear
I thought that was found to be false. If it was found to be true, I think he would be suspended.
TigersLoveCinnamon
He was, that’s just so specific though. Maybe the league knows more. Otherwise why is he still unsigned when so many of the same ilk are in the league.
all in the suit that you wear
I hadn’t read much about Clevinger before, but this is a good article:
sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/mike-clevinger-domest…
Looks like a he said-she said and he wasn’t suspended or fined. Maybe no one will sign him like Bauer.
Wire to wire 2024
Can they just sign Montgomery already
CravenMoorehead
That Harrison Bader trade was such a brainfart. Didn’t help that Cashman basically insulted Montgomery in the press either.
DR2020
Should have held on to Bader, then traded him for some pitching
Sourhaze
Yankees rotation looking sus
CravenMoorehead
Mad sus
178iq
Oh, are they now? Where are they looking?
Canuckleball
Behind the curtains, under the couch cushions, in the kitchen drawers…
Any where but the free agent list, it would seem.
178iq
Hahahaha exactly.
DR2020
Anywhere, where it would not require paying any money, or prospects. That’s why Cashman‘s specialty is dumpster diving.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Spencer Jones & Austin Wells for Jesus of Luzardo. The Jesus Lizard.
178iq
Why trade jones? They’d never. They think he might be AJ 2.0. Younger & better. Might be right. If they were going to trade him he’d of went to the Sox a long time ago.
Viveleempireevil
You really are an ignorant Son-of-b aren’t you? I wouldn’t trade Jones and Wells for the entire Fish team.
DR2020
Dumpsters
HiredGun23
The Yankees were frequently connected…
They were often connected to Snell…
So we are to believe???
Dock_Elvis
Have to have my doubts Snell ever took any twam not on the west coast seriously. Seems there’s many that could have atleast matched the Giants deal. And teams with a much clearer shot at the playoffs. Do we know if Snells deal involves a no trade?
HiredGun23
That’s a good question…
drasco036
Not according to spotrac.
Dock_Elvis
Thanks. I was just curious if this was a move to perhaps play on the west coast and then MAYBE get dealt to a contender for a shot at a ring if the Giants are sellers.
178iq
The NYY were also “interested” and “checking in on” in addition to “connected” lol
HiredGun23
They were also “considering”, “kicking the tires”, “discussing” and most importantly, “mulling over”…
mlb fan
“They were also considering”…If all those euphemisms and platitudes don’t bring a smile to your face, I’ve heard the NY Yankees have had “internal discussions” about adding some pitching depth.
DR2020
Yup, ad nauseum
DR2020
I didn’t know that, thanks for the information
StPeteStingRays
Maybe Snell didn’t want to be seen in pinstripes?
Rsox
Didn’t he wear pinstripes home and road last season?
Chauncey Scott
Snell was l8ghts out last year but also pitched to an ERA over 4 in 2 of the last 4 years. The itch wasn’t worth the scratch when it comes to the lux tax.
Chuck from Uniontown
This team will disappoint and trade Soto back to the Daddy’s at the deadline.
DonOsbourne
They should consider trading him. I think Soto is the next guy who will see his market disappear compared to expectations. DH’s just aren’t getting paid.
stymeedone
But DH’s that the team is forced to play in the field because of their contract seem to be all the rage.
Americanentropy
good on the Giants. the NL west is gonna be fun.
slimray
fun for the dodger fans, but who else?
MoneyBallJustWorks
Montgomery is going to be waiting longer than 7 years if he wants a 7 yr deal
DonOsbourne
The Cardinals plan to wait seven years, then re-sign him. He’ll be right in their wheelhouse by then.
pando8888
They are not all in!! We need a pitcher!
TrillionaireTeamOperator
They are stuck. There’s nobody they can realistically trade to get salary relief who they don’t need or who isn’t more valuable than anybody they’d get in return, they can’t add salary, so… they’re stuck. If Rodon bounces back and stays healthy, that’s the equivalent of adding a pitcher. But of course there’s lost Cole even if that happens, so it’s break even at best.
Man they can never put it all together, even with that insane payroll…
Yankee Clipper
Their best option is Jesus Luzardo, imho. But, who knows if the Marlins want to deal him at this point, or if Cashman is willing to give up what they want (likely Jones, plus, plus, which is not happening).
DR2020
Trade Cole and Soto for pitching!
DonOsbourne
The Marlins have every reason to ask the Yankees for the moon. The Yankees are in a position of desperation and the Marlins are going nowhere either way. The Yankees need to stop acting like every season is a must win situation. It gives everyone else the upper hand in any trade scenario.
The Dodgers are uber-wealthy and ultra competitive as well. But last year they drew a line in the sand and didn’t cross it(then won 100 games anyway). But the Yankees need to admit they face the same restraints as everyone else, or go full Cohen and just say money is no object.
Seamaholic
Marlins are trying to acquire more pitching themselves. Luzardo is absolutely not available.
DonOsbourne
Probably. But what does it mean when the Marlins are “trying to acquire more pitching”? Miami has done almost nothing this offseason. Would losing Luzardo really change their trajectory? I
DR2020
I get it, but if they’re really all in, that would not matter. But apparently they are not all in, as usual, it’s just empty promises. Once again the only thing they’re all in on, is in increasing revenue, and lining Steinbrenner’s pockets as usual.
thegreatgoodbye
No one wants to trade with the Yankees GM who has a napoleon complex and Yankees Owner is not his father so he won’t spend money. Every Yankee fan knew the Yankees needed starting pitching before spring training started.
slider32
Wait a minute, they Yanks are over the cap as we speak, Yanks have enough pitching to win. The hitting was their downfall along with injuries. Cashman can’t control the injuries, and nobody in their right mind would pay an extra 110% for anything!
Rishi
They only have enough pitching if they are extremely lucky. Cortez has only once thrown near a full season. Stroman got hurt last year. Rodon is made of glass. And their ace is sidelined. I would think that getting Soto would be a significant way to address the lineup. At same time who knows about Judge? He is always getting hurt and coming off an injury he claims will never fully heal (how he knows this is anyones guess but it’s a pessimistic take). A torn ligament in a toe is extremely hard to properly heal because it is hard to isolate to exercise/stretch.
thegreatgoodbye
They didn’t even want Stroman. He begged them to sign him. Yankees can’t take credit for that signing
YankeesBleacherCreature
They were with speaking with Stroman’s reps since last November. Thanks for playing. Please come again.
thegreatgoodbye
Per Bob Nightengale on Jan 7 “Free-agent starter Marcus Stroman has informed the Yankees he’s seriously interested in signing with them, but the Yankees have declined to make an offer.” usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nighte…
YankeesBleacherCreature
From the horse’s mouth himself Brian Cashman:
youtu.be/fft86Sns5A0?si=XmSWFcQ_WM1wnEz_
He also spoke about the media reporting that there was an offer for Snell for $150mm.
thegreatgoodbye
I don’t trust Cashman or anything he says. Dude has a napoleon complex
YankeesBleacherCreature
That would make Bob Nightengale and Jon Heyman his court jesters if that’s what you believe.
Rishi
I always find this napoleon complex thing odd. It refers to his height right? And ambition. Napoleon was about average height for his era if I recall. People were shorter. Regardless it’s the phrase of the hour
YankeesBleacherCreature
He’s 5’10”. lol Must’ve been some NY Post backpage mockup from the past.
DR2020
Even that would be welcome. At this point, it’s better than what they have and would eat innings, which is what they need at this point.
DR2020
They are his court jesters, just not very good ones
YankeesBleacherCreature
Correct link: youtu.be/gz2s57zKxj8?si=6v9cFZYtg2131gti
Mrski
Plus very few want to play in New York.
mlb fan
“Won’t spend money”..You didn’t think too long before you wrote that one did you? The Yankees have actually spent too much money and that’s why they’re somewhat capped out. All the Yankees did in the last few years is bring in highly paid superstar Juan Soto, give Gerrit Cole the largest pitching contract in history and resign Aaron Judge to a HUGE contract, but in your eyes that’s not “spending money”, right? If misinformed people like you are going to accuse the Yankees of “not spending”, regardless of how much they spend, why should they bother “spending” in the future?
thegreatgoodbye
You had 1 free agent signing this offseason. KC and CIN spent more than NYY this offseason. Soto was arbitration, not a free agent signing. You can’t bring Judge or Cole into this offseason. Your upset you have a high payroll, that’s because you refuse to fix your Stanton issue and you refuse to extend Judge when he was young, like ATL does. The ironic part is all reports are NYY are in on UFA Lorenzen, now they look his way. The team is backwards
Rishi
How does one fix the Stanton issue? How would that effect payroll? Nobody is paying anything for him. Idk about Judge wanting or not wanting an extension. Hard to get a good deal when a guy hits like 50 hr as a rookie. Also he was injury prone (is) so it would’ve been debatable whether it was smart or not. “Lucky” for him he had the monster contract year where he was healthy. Nobody should pay premium for that (as if a healthy season cancels out his injury prone nature). It’s gonna be another regretful contract probably. At least not as bad as many others.
mlb fan
When I heard “fix Stanton” I knew thegreatgoodbye was coming from out in left field. I guess he thinks you can just wave a wand and cure what ails you. The Yankees would have to include at least $60M just to get a return call on Stanton and would get ZERO back. Some bad acquisitions you are stuck with, because no ones taking the Yankee’s broken down, overpaid, ill fitting parts like Giancarlo Stanton.
thegreatgoodbye
BOS got rid of David Price, Adrian Gonzalez and even Carl Crawford. It could be done. If Stanton’s contract was holding the team back from spending more money, they could have traded him more then once and added in a prospect that they never play and DFA anyways (G Whitlock, Deivi Garcia, Florial, etc)
Rishi
Are you comparing a deal where Mookie Betts was traded with Price to getting rid of Stanton? Even in the Crawford/Gonzalez deal Beckett was sent who at the time was (before that half season) a great starter.
yanks2323
Why do people say he’s not his dad and will not spend money. The problem is Cashman is still in charge and Hal doesn’t have the stones to fire him. Terrible trade after terrible trade – we lost depth for Montas and how did that turn out. They are over the Cohen luxury tax, they are spending enough!
YankeesBleacherCreature
Ol George almost traded Mo for Felix Fermin. Who’s that? Exactly.
DonOsbourne
Exactly. Why do the Yankees need to outspend the Rays 3:1 just to compete with them? The Yankees’ ownership should take a field trip from their executive suits on Dale Mabry and drive over to whatever St. Petersburg back ally the Rays keep their people in. Just walk in and offer everyone in the building a 100% raise to come work for them. The total cost would pale in comparison to what the Yankees spend on over the hill players just to keep pace.
DongKelly
Trevor Bauer league minimum
CravenMoorehead
THERE IT IS
DongKelly
I saw an opportunity and took it
CravenMoorehead
DongKelly
W
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Trade Soto for pitching ???
mlb fan
“Trade Soto for pitching”…It wasn’t pitching that took the Yankees down last year, it was a hitting lineup of all or nothing(mostly nothing) hitters.
pogo
Another Chinese robot!
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I’ve been called many names in my lifetime sir; but Chinese Robot is truly a first.
YankeesBleacherCreature
So are you?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Impossible to know, I lost my passport sometime back in the Bush II administration.
RickEO
Actually need hitting. Way to top heavy
Rishi
One of the top heavy guys is always getting hurt too. At least they have Soto to give them someone else when Judge likely hits the DL sometime(s).
pogo
Starting to feel good that the Giants missed out on Rodon, Judge and Correa.
Buzzz Killington
Yankees sign Noah and he becomes their best and most durable pitcher.
Yankee Clipper
I don’t think the terms “Yankees” and “durable pitcher” will ever be used again, unfortunately….
Buzzz Killington
All you have to do is dream.
showmebb
Considering their payroll, they don’t look particularly good. They will be counting on a fair number of bounce back seasons.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
Mike Cleavinger is a number 2. Hes much better than Rodon. If you don’t want Bauer, why not sign him? If I was a GM of any baseball team I’d win 100 games easily. Iv been right about 99% of my predictions in the past 5 years. Was right about Brendan Drury, Tommy Pham, Luis Arraez, Drew Smith being the worst reliever in the game, etc. How these guys get GM jobs, I have no idea
Roll
as usual you are wrong and will never admit it. they are worse relievers including your favorite … ace reliever jeff brigham by your eyes. … saying the brewers gave away hader etc etc
i think you confused 100 wins with losses.
pogo
Don’t give into him
Salzilla
What did I say about that Soto trade when it happened that got me in hot water with some fellow fans? Oh yes that if Cashman didn’t make additional upgrades it was just window dressing to give off the appearance of getting something done. Casuals will be all like oh lets go see Soto and tix will get a bump, but man overall they gave up too much (basically an entire rotation) for one year and zero guarantee of signing.
Too many questions marks and not enough answers on this team. Another pitcher and a cheap util right now is needed, but I just don’t know how this turns out overall.
Here’s hoping if they’re terrible, Cashman recognizes and recoups some prospects for Soto at the deadline. Heck trade a few pieces away!
DR2020
Trade Cole for some pitching!
DR2020
Many of us have said it. It’s quite obvious. The Yankees say they’re all in all the time but it’s obvious that is just empty Promises.there is one thing they are all in on, lining Steinbrenner’s pockets every year.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
NYY traded for Verdugo who is above average (focus?) and can take advantage of the short RF distance but getting Grisham in the Soto trade seemed redundant.
I realize Trent is supposed to be good defensively – NYY outfielders seem to get injured alot and could get some rest in games where they have a sizeable lead.
Trent’s salary is cheap & his other stats seem productive but his strikeouts the last 2 years and batting under .200. Get a good eye test maybe
In retrospect NYY wishes they had held back one of the lesser SPs they traded for Soto.
I would be surprised if they didn’t inquire about Bieber from CLE.
If they go the FA route instead MC or ML it doesn’t matter if you call them a #2 -#5 or tax they have to pay for one year. They need to not burn out their bullpen. Once they make the sacrifice for Soto the Due is Cast.
They need to McGyver duct tape together the pitching. With their offense they should be OK in most games (75%) To get whatever they can out of Cole they shouldn’t feel pressure to rush him back. Hold him out till after AS Break
Salzilla
Agree on the MacGyvering the starting staff. That’s why I keep saying just grab a major league starter regardless of the quality just someone that can eat some innings.
I like Verdugo and Trent even. The OF is solid right now. But the IF was sus even before DJ’s injury. But like SP there’s guys that can be had on the cheap. They can get two pitchers and a util right now for 10mil total which wouldn’t get a big amount of tax and be much better off.
I know we have some kids that can play, but sometimes you need some professionals out there that know how to act as bandaids.
DR2020
That is quite true, I’ve been saying that all along. It is less than ideal to fill up what is going to be hundreds of innings to unproven or less than replacement level players.
mils100
Lorenzen is going to wear himself out throwing 70 innings in a practice.
Not sure why Clevinger is still sitting out there. Solid #4 type – cant think his market value is more than say 1/10.
westcasey
No kidding. Sign Bauer at league minimum. Ignore the griping as there are still plenty of Yankee fans that feel “less offended’ by such indiscretion.
I think they could still trade with Oakland for serviceable Blackburn. His $$ is pretty low and the cost of a prospect should not stop them.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Only the majority of their female fanbase.
Devlsh
I wonder if they could swing one of those rare cross town deals and acquire Quintana plus the cash to cover his contract for a prospect or two?
Mets have shown a willingness to pay down the money and that fits the Yankees need to avoid paying more luxury tax.
Plus the Mets could then go out and sign a Lorenzon or Clevinger to fill the hole in their rotation.
Jorbit Vivas plus a lottery ticket?
Roll
Hey arent the padres looking for a shortstop? … volpe for cease?
Gwynning
You had us at shortstop…
CravenMoorehead
Tony Montana voice
“C’MOOOOON PELICAN!!!!!”
Gwynning
Hey Manny, look at the pelican!
CravenMoorehead
“WHERE IS DIS COMIN FROM MANE?!”
*PUFFS CIGAR*
GhostofRandySavage
Yankees barely have a backup for Volpe right now, unfortunately.
Fraham_
Lorenzen through 70 innings recently? We should add him then
tacohole
That’s more innings than Snell will throw in 15 starts
dano62
Time to dig up other trade options, since these have been regurgitated ad nauseaum… Guys like Blackburn & Beiber, FA Hill & Lyle. All available for the right price…
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
I think Cashman is going after a low level starting pitcher in a trade or maybe going with a rookie(s). After missing on Cease and now Snell I don’t see him making a big splash.
DR2020
No doubt
cmessick2080
The Yankees complain more than anyone and if they need pitching stop complaining and do something about. It’s not like they have a lack of money to get pitching.
DR2020
Agree. Tired of hearing about it. Do something about it. Claim they address all in, yet address afraid to spend a dime.
mlbnyyfan
H Steinbrenner needs to sell the Yankees. He’s a disgrace to the Steinbrenner name. H Steinbrenner refusing to go above and beyond is a shame. When did dollar amounts stop King George? NEVER!!!!! I think George’s daughter would do a better job.
DR2020
Sell to Cohen.
Rsox
They’ll sign Lorenzon, eventually…
Rupert
Yankees waiting for the first one who’ll pitch for food.
DR2020
Understand your point bleacher creatures, I would’ve said from the horses other end, cashmanv
YankeesBleacherCreature
I’m aware he’s vague often but he did say he wanted to get two lefthanded bats in the outfield from the get-go so there’s that. I’ll take that over the RS’ “full throttle” any day.
DR2020
Apparently that is too costly for them also
B4Pilgrams
no value pitching is available. pay up or lose year 1 of Soto. Soto will walk as a free agent
DR2020
Talk about a non-story, merely Clickbait. That’s like saying, Bees are looking for honey, or humans need food to live.
Of course, they’re looking for pitching, every major league team is always looking for pitching. they’ll take pitching if the prices right. Of course the price never seems to be quite right for them. They want something for nothing. There aren’t too many teams that will give them something for nothing. They’ll find some reclamation project, and pat themselves on the back, when he performs better than expected for a week or two, before he fades into oblivion, as usual.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’ll probably be Will Warren.
tomg1976
“Rosenthal reports that the righty recently threw 70 innings, getting up and down four times.” That’s a lot of stress for one spring outing.
YankeesBleacherCreature
So he’s ready then? Gil has pitched well but he’s coming back from TJS so he shouldn’t be handling a starters workload yet.
User 401527550
Let’s get the Yankees fans all worked up Severino back to the Yankees for Chase Hampton.
Chauncey Scott
BAUER, it’s so silly they haven’t already. I highly doubt Cole gives a hoot. However, I think Beeter will be the 5th starter and perform well. Just my 2 cents.
chuck123
Just spend the money – thought Hal said they were all in this year
Yankeesforever
if you live in a condo or apartment building and you hear something rummaging through your dumpster, don’t become alarmed or throw your shoe at it thinking it’s a racoon.
It’s simply Cashman looking for a pitcher.
Wrian Washman
The trade market is impossible as teams insist on Spencer Jones
slimray
beeter, warren,gil and spencer jones to orioles.for corbin burnes and jordan westburg.
Wrian Washman
How about Clint Frazier and Miguel Andujar
Pivo
He recently threw 70 innings, huh?
LordD99
Yes. It seems he basically threw almost half a full season of innings recently, but fortunately he got up and down four times while throwing those 70 unsupervised innings.
Yeah, I stared at that sentence multiple times. Regardless, of however many innings he’s thrown on the side, he’s going to need weeks before he’s ready to pitch. I suspect all of these pitchers starting the season late will have off years.
billysbballz
The Angels and San Fran could both use more offense and we have Stanton if anyone was willing to take his last 4 years plus Yanks eat $35 million of the 98million remaining (marlins still on hook for $35million)?
In turn throw in a prospect (Pereira or Peraza) and ask for a bullpen/ 5th starter in return that can shuttle back and forth to AAA with options. Now they can go and sign Lorenzen on a one year deal and will avoid the huge tax penalty. Otherwise forget Yankees adding any pitching help. Warren is my choice for 5th starter and Gil builds up his arm in long relief and ready to jump in rotation if need be.
MARLIN POWER 18
The Bronx Bombers can forget doing business w. Miami at this point – unless they’re willing to part with guys like Spencer Jones or Jasson Dominguez. Maybe both. Yeah, I know, that would be crazy, right? Never happen. Yet that would be the ask. In truth, they’d be better off looking at other options.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
And here’s the article I predicted would happen with Luzardo’s name mentioned in it.
This is getting ridiculously, easily predictable.