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Michael Lorenzen Reportedly Seeking Two-Year Deal

By Steve Adams | March 5, 2024 at 2:31pm CDT

With spring training fully underway, right-hander Michael Lorenzen remains unsigned and in search of a new club for the upcoming 2024 season. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the 32-year-old righty has been searching for a two-year contract and is continuing to focus his efforts on landing a multi-year pact.

After a lengthy run as a setup man in the Reds’ bullpen, Lorenzen has signed one-year deals to work as a starter in each of the past two offseasons. He landed with the Angels on a $6.75MM deal in 2022 and pitched for the Tigers on an $8.5MM deal in 2023. After pitching a career-high 153 innings in 2023 and making his first All-Star team, it seems Lorenzen is prioritizing a multi-year pact so as to avoid yet another swift return to the market. That’s only natural, but at this stage of the winter, it’s far from a lock that one will present itself.

[Related: Let’s find a home for Michael Lorenzen]

Lorenzen started 25 games and made four relief appearances last season. He carried a 4.03 ERA through 87 innings into the All-Star break and was named the Tigers’ lone All-Star representative. His second half began with an otherworldly hot streak, and Lorenzen was flipped from Detroit to Philadelphia along the way, scarcely missing a beat early in his Phillies stint following the trade.

From July 6 through Aug. 9, Lorenzen piled up 40 2/3 innings with a 1.11 ERA and strong 31-to-12 K/BB ratio. He capped off his stellar run with an eight-inning, two-run gem against the Marlins and a 124-pitch no-hitter against the Nationals in his first start at Philadelphia’s Citizens Bank Park. That dropped his season-long ERA to a tidy 3.23, and while Lorenzen’s pedestrian 19.4% strikeout rate and tiny .244 average on balls in play didn’t fully support the extent of his success, he still looked well on his way to a possible multi-year deal in free agency.

His season took a sharp downturn from there. Perhaps wearing down as he pushed into uncharted territory in terms of workload, Lorenzen was rocked for 27 runs over his next 26 1/3 innings. The Phillies moved him to the bullpen in September, and although he finished with a handful of scoreless relief outings, Lorenzen’s 4.18 ERA was a far sight higher than it was at peak levels. His 17.8% strikeout rate was well shy of the league average, while his 7.5% walk rate and 41% grounder rate were closer to par among starters. But Lorenzen’s lack of whiffs, solid-but-not-elite command and susceptibility to home runs caused fielding-independent metrics to cast a far more bearish outlook on his season overall (4.46 FIP, 4.87 SIERA).

Lorenzen and his camp could perhaps make the claim to teams that he wore down or that his late-season struggles were fluky in nature, but teams could surely make similar claims that his torrid run from mid-July to mid-August doesn’t accurately represent his ability either. A two-year deal with a modest bump in AAV has always seemed plausible, though. MLBTR predicted a two-year, $22MM deal back in November. Just last offseason, we saw Ross Stripling ($25MM), Sean Manaea ($25MM), Drew Smyly ($19MM) and Jordan Lyles ($17MM) all sign two-year guarantees at or north of Lorenzen’s 2023 salary level — the first three with opt-outs included.

It’s plenty understandable if Lorenzen entered free agency thinking such a deal generally represented a floor of sorts for him. Perhaps early in the offseason, such offers would’ve been more attainable. Now, it’s increasingly difficult to convince teams to dole out guaranteed money on multi-year deals, particularly for starting pitchers who might not be able to fully build up in the remaining three and a half weeks of camp.

One thing that could yet help Lorenzen find a deal to his liking is the mounting slate of pitching injuries around the league as camps progress. The Red Sox may have lost their marquee offseason pickup, Lucas Giolito, for the season already. Giants fifth starter Tristan Beck won’t throw for eight weeks, and one of their top depth options is dealing with an elbow sprain. The Cardinals and Astros will begin the season with their would-be Opening Day starters on the injured list. The Blue Jays and Marlins are both dealing with possible injuries to notable starters.

Any one of those issues could cause the market for Lorenzen to pick up steam, but the longer he waits to sign, the more likely it is that he’ll need some minor league starts to ramp up before joining a big league rotation. We’re not necessarily to that point on the schedule just yet, but it’s getting close.

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  1. just_thinkin

    1 year ago

    The Orioles should be all over this guy, I don’t really get it.

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    • C Yards Jeff

      1 year ago

      2/18 with 3 mil buyout?

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      • Phree4u

        1 year ago

        I don’t see how this guy isn’t signed, he should definitely be worth more than that, but even at 2/22 with a 2mil. buyout he should be a fit for numerous teams.

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    • paosfan

      1 year ago

      He’s likely as good as or worse than Irvin. Might fill a long relief spot but perhaps not if means and bradish are expected back for most of 2024. He’s not better than the 5 currently in the running for the starting 5.

      If orig rotation is back in April who do you kick out? Kremer?… nah…

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      • C Yards Jeff

        1 year ago

        Agree that when rotation is healthy, he wouldn’t have a spot. Suggest doing something like this only if FO decides to keep Bradish and Means on shelf for extended period of time.

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    • danumd87 2

      1 year ago

      I agree. I think something like 2/20 should work for both sides. He’s a bit better than Irvin and if signed and ramped up now could conceivably be in the opening day rotation where he’d surrender his spot once means (or Bradish) are ready and then return to the bullpen. I imagine he’s looking for a rotation spot though and that’s far from a guarantee on the Os with Burnes, Bradish, Grayson, Means, Kremer, Wells slotted ahead of him. The Os may view him as a more expensive, less talented version of Wells and thus a redundancy. But with 2/5 of the rotation down the interest on a modest pact should be there for the Os. I just really don’t think he’s looking to sign a deal where he isn’t viewed as a leading candidate for a rotation spot.

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      • CityofChampions

        1 year ago

        $2/20 is too much for Lorenzen at this point. He’s going to have to take a 1 year deal or an incentive laden 2 year to get up to that dollar figure.

        I’d taken him on a 1 year deal given the uncertainty of the injuries. We’ll have a bit of a 26 man crunch if we get all these guys back healthy & sign Lorenzen. That’d put Mike Baumann, Webb, or maybe Cole Irvin in a spot where they’re DFA’d.

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    • zeuz1

      1 year ago

      He stinks.

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  2. okbud

    1 year ago

    Red Sox aren’t gonna sign anybody

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    • RickEO

      1 year ago

      Good

      Reply
    • I.M. Insane

      1 year ago

      At this point, would you want to sign with them? Talk about a sinking ship.

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    • Phree4u

      1 year ago

      Red Sox shouldn’t spend either, they could add 2 pitchers from the market, any two and they are still a weak link in the stacked al east.

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      • danumd87 2

        1 year ago

        Agreed. It’s crazy to think how far the Red Sox have slipped but I don’t think that even additions of Snell and Montgomery would give them a shot at anything better than third in the East. The Orioles are very talented and very deep, the Yankees have a nice collection of top end talent with some expensive fliers with some high variance, and the Rays and Jays are far from pushovers given the Rays next man up culture and history of success as well as the Jays own star power. If anything, this is the perfect time for the Red Sox to take a couple of years to rebuild as they don’t seem to have any road to completing any time soon.

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    • AllAboutBaseball

      1 year ago

      Unless they are hurt

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    • rememberthecoop

      1 year ago

      They’re still the logical landing spot for Monty.

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  3. stretch123

    1 year ago

    Marlins need sign this guy and trade Cabrera for some hitting!

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    • Moneyballer

      1 year ago

      Horrible idea.

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  4. CCooper8920

    1 year ago

    I’d rather the Giants sign him than Snell

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    • Moneyballer

      1 year ago

      Lol yeah ok.

      Reply
  5. Sour Bob

    1 year ago

    Lorenzen is a good fit for a team that just sort of needs to increase their depth/raise the floor of their staff, as he’s a cromulent 4/5 with a chance to be better who can also be a useful reliever idf he slides below that level.

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    • cubfanforever

      1 year ago

      Cromulent?

      Thanks for expanding my 72 year old vocabulary.

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      • Yoyosoxsox

        1 year ago

        At 72 it’s always good to embiggen ones vocabulary

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          And embiggen it bigly!

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        • cubfanforever

          1 year ago

          Nicely played yoyo and Blue Barron.
          Side benefits to being on Trade Rumors.

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          Reply
        • cubfanforever

          1 year ago

          The Trade Rumors responders. Making the world smarter, one word at a time.

          3
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      • DarkSide830

        1 year ago

        Cromulent is the best addition to the English language since Shakespeare’s days.

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    • Cleon Jones

      1 year ago

      Cromulent is a synonym for flatulent, right?

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    • UncommonSense

      1 year ago

      RDRR

      Reply
  6. SupremeZeus

    1 year ago

    A player option Lance Lynn K for Lorenzen? $11M guarantee, $10M player option year 2 (rather than Lynn’s team option) plus innings incentives that could add $3M?

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  7. BranchLilDicky

    1 year ago

    2 years!!! Yeah, me too!

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    • NYCityRiddler

      1 year ago

      He’ll take one…and like it! Ahahaha!

      Reply
  8. Liberalsteve

    1 year ago

    sorry.Tigers already have 7 good starters

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  9. dano62

    1 year ago

    Rays for $15m (8+7) w/2m buyout on 3rd year 8m
    That’s if they trade Ramirez

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      Just like a polyester suit from Sears, that looks way too cheap.

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  10. unpaidobserver

    1 year ago

    Same Michael Lorenzen. Same.

    Reply
  11. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    1 year ago

    To Padres as two way player for four years $24 million, $6 million per year, with an opt/out after each year

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      That would never happe…
      *checks notes*
      How’s left field batting fifth sound, Mike?

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  12. tigerdoc616

    1 year ago

    Well, that explains why he is still unsigned. He is a decent pitcher but not outstanding and at 32 he is probably going to have to take one year and prove it deals for the rest of his career.

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  13. padam

    1 year ago

    “Michael Lorenzen reportedly looking for a deal”

    There, fixed it.

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  14. radhippo

    1 year ago

    Seems like a nice pickup that could be flipped at the deadline if needed.

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      Deja vu all over again…

      Reply
  15. twinky

    1 year ago

    Twins

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  16. Blue Baron

    1 year ago

    Still unsigned and not a Boras client?

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    • MacGromit

      1 year ago

      Shhhh Blue. Don’t say that aloud, it’ll unravel the narrative that Boras is responsible for global warming and is an agent of the Illuminati.

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  17. bravesfan

    1 year ago

    I’ll predict that either the angels, giants, or Red Sox sign him. I’ll predict 2 years between 18-22 mil. But I honestly wouldn’t be shocked at a 1 year $11 mil deal

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    • MacGromit

      1 year ago

      Lyles got 2yrs and 17MM, I can see how Lorenzen could see that as his floor. This has been a puzzling off season. The RSN uncertainty and the pull back after Steve Cohen’s Daddy Warbucks act seem to have popped the bubble

      I think he’s going to have to live with a higher AAV one year deal. Although the rash of Spring Training injury reports may open the window of opportunity for a short time.

      I agree the O’s should go ahead and outlay some cash for him as a #5 or at least a guy that can give your other starters some rest (lookin’ at you, Tyler Wells) to incrementally squeeze more value out of them this year. Give him long mop up too if you need to. And pay the man handsomely for the custodial work.

      He really hasn’t proven himself for 2 yr guarantee money IMHO. He is a lesser version of Wells in my eyes. But he can help the O’s.

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      • CityofChampions

        1 year ago

        I think Povich is going to be the top depth for now & we’ll make a deadline addition if necessary.

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  18. acoss13

    1 year ago

    Lorenzen is going to have to settle for a one-year deal with the possibility of being moved to the bullpen.

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  19. Mrski

    1 year ago

    Mets should sign him. This may put the over the marlins in last place.

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    • padam

      1 year ago

      He would be a 2.5x hit. I doubt they go anywhere near him.

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  20. SportsFan0000

    1 year ago

    Lorenzen would be a great fit for the Padres as a #4 or #5 Starter.
    Petco Park is a pitchers paradise.

    Lorenzen 1-2 year deal with options should do it.
    Inevitable injuries leave the Padres with not enough depth
    for a contending team’s rotation.
    This is a “no brainer”, unless New Padres Managing Partner
    has completely handcuffed any sort of financial moves?!

    They may have to deal Jake Cronenworth to free up dollars
    if the Padres are that strapped for cash.

    But, it will be hard for the Padres to compete for their Division and/or a Wild Card without adding depth to their rotation.

    The Yankees pitchers obtained in the Soto deal will fill some holes.
    But, the Padres still need more help.

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      “Yes” and then a whole Coliseum floor full of “Nos”

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    • thefaithfulfriar

      1 year ago

      They’re not dealing Croney

      1
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      • CityofChampions

        1 year ago

        Crone can’t really be dealt without some prospect capital

        1
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        • Gwynning

          1 year ago

          Hence, like tff suggested, not likely to happen (this year) at all. Croney can obvious bounce back and restore his own value… and I suspect he will.

          Reply
  21. Moneyballer

    1 year ago

    Twins could slot him into the 5 spot. Louie Varland and SWR ain’t it. This is a good fit!

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      I’ve liked Varland, what do u see?

      Reply
  22. bill l

    1 year ago

    But . . . but . . . what about his surplus value as a 6th or 7th corner OF and occasional PH when the bench is used up and the DH is surrendered?

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      The universal DH cost Mike a few bucks

      Reply
  23. Met-head

    1 year ago

    this guy is below average and league knows it. They arent going to give him a 2 year contract. Teams can get a lot of the same production from internal options. Now he waited so long – why would a team now guarantee a full contract for 2024 when he wont be ready day one?

    Reply
  24. AM21

    1 year ago

    It pays to be mediocre. Clearly.

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