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Giants Chairman Discusses Deadline, Signings, “Inconsistent” First Half

By Mark Polishuk | June 30, 2024 at 8:33am CDT

With a 40-44 record, the Giants sit in fourth place in the NL West but also still within striking distance of the playoffs, as San Francisco is 3.5 games out of the last National League wild card slot.  Several other teams within the congested NL are in this same half-in, half-out status of semi-contention, though expectations were certainly higher in the Bay Area after the Giants spent over $324MM on free agents this past offseason.

Team chairman Greg Johnson is still optimistic that the best is yet to come for the Giants, though he admitted in an interview this week with the San Francisco Chronicle’s Susan Slusser that the club’s play has been “very inconsistent.”

“I think we have to be a little patient through this period where you get frustrated when you watch every day,” Johnson said.  “We also have to take into account that we’ve been hit with injuries in very key places, and when you try to muddle through with a two-man rotation, it’s pretty difficult….We’ve had slow starts in games. We can’t seem to get on starting pitching, we always seem to be trying to play catch-up.  But on the positive side, the clubhouse vibe seems to be good despite the injuries, and I think if we can stay relevant the next couple of weeks, we’re going to be in great shape in the second half.”

Thirteen players are currently on the Giants’ injured list, ranging from season-ending issues like Jung Hoo Lee’s shoulder surgery to a couple of injuries (to Thairo Estrada and Wilmer Flores) that have arose even in the few days since Slusser’s interview with Johnson was published.  As Johnson simply put it, “it’s tough when you watch the team take the field — that’s not the team we thought would be out there.”

The sheer volume of personnel on the IL does hint at further upside for the roster, since Johnson says “we probably have the biggest lift (with returning injured players) of any team out there.”  This in itself could provide more of a natural roster reinforcement than anything San Francisco could add at the trade deadline, though whether or not enough players will be back by July 30 adds another wrinkle to the club’s future plans.

Johnson demurred most talk about the deadline, saying that was the purview of president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi.  However, the chairman downplayed the idea of a splashy midseason trade, saying “we’re going to look and see what’s available, but we’re not that optimistic that the market will bear much fruit with so many teams in contention right now, and the cost of getting players and giving up a lot of young talent.”  Should a situation emerge where the Giants could add a player by boosting their approximately $254MM, Johnson said “I think we do” have that type of financial flexibility.

It has been no secret that the Giants were trying to add superstars (and thus a larger payroll) to their roster for the last several years, as per their pursuits of Shohei Ohtani, Aaron Judge, Carlos Correa, and other big-ticket stars in free agency.  Last winter’s spending spree was headlined by Lee’s six-year, $113MM deal, though the Giants were able to score a pair of notable less-pricey deals late in the offseason with a pair of shorter-term, opt-out heavy deals with Blake Snell and Matt Chapman.  As a result, San Francisco is now over the luxury tax threshold for the first time since 2017, though their estimated $254MM figure puts them under the secondary tax tier of $257MM.

In regards to the Giants’ spending capacity in general, Johnson said “We don’t go in with any set number — here’s the cap, here’s the target.  Things change, and being able to get someone of Blake Snell’s caliber and you look at your areas of vulnerability and with a lot of untested pitchers, that was a reason to go out and spend beyond the luxury tax. You want to be nimble and opportunistic and having Blake still available kind of pushed us over that [luxury tax] range.”

Seen as relative bargains at the time, the signings of Chapman (three years, $54MM with two opt-outs) and Snell (two years, $62MM with an opt-out after the season) haven’t gone to plan.  Chapman is at least on the field and providing his customary excellent third base defense, even if his hitting has been only decent.  Snell, on the other hand, has battled through a nightmare of a season that has included two IL stints and a 9.51 ERA over 23 2/3 innings pitched.

Because Snell didn’t sign until March 19, he didn’t have the benefit of any kind of normal Spring Training routine, as the reigning NL Cy Young Award winner’s preseason work was limited to his own personal training regiment and some sim games after he officially joined the Giants.  Snell’s struggles have been so overwhelming that it seems to have led to a policy change within the team, as “signing someone late isn’t something we’d do again, especially with a pitcher,” Johnson said.

“I think that shows you how important Spring Training is, especially for pitchers….We felt a veteran like him could be ready pretty quickly.  I’m sure he’s pretty frustrated as well.  You want him to feel like he’s 100 percent when he’s out there, and he wants to feel like he’s 100 percent.”

While it is a little surprising to hear a team executive make such a firm declaration, it isn’t all that controversial given that Snell himself has gone on record with his regrets over his lack of a normal offseason ramp-up.  It should be noted that Johnson didn’t regard Snell’s signing as a mistake, since there is still time this season for Snell to return and contribute, not to mention in the second year of his deal in 2025 (since an opt-out is looking increasingly unlikely).

All in all, Johnson’s statements don’t much differ from the comments of other front office officials or executives in recent weeks, as so much of the league is still in wait-and-see mode with a month to go before the deadline.  It is certainly possible the Giants could be more aggressive in adding talent if they go on a hot streak in July, though remaining under .500 (and falling more definitively out of a playoff race) could motivate Zaidi to reload for 2025 and move some veteran players at the deadline.  Or, given how San Francisco surely plans to contend next year, the Giants could pursue a combination of both buying and selling at the deadline, rather than one specific path.

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  1. Non Roster Invitee

    1 year ago

    Sharks get #1 pick!

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  2. draker

    1 year ago

    Well as long as the “clubhouse vibe” is good I don’t really see the problem. Face it, Giants fans: they’ve figured out a profit-making formula and they’re sticking to it. Pretend to go after the top free agents year after year, overpay for a couple of mid-tier guys and claim to be fielding a competitive team by remaining “only” 4.5 games back of the third Wild Card in a ludicrously watered down playoff format. As long as the suckers keep piling through the turnstiles nothing will change.

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    • oldgfan

      1 year ago

      So in your doomer world there are whiners and suckers. Maybe the suckers are just fans, and maybe the whiners are just entitled people who are jealous of the other teams that are performing better.

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    • mlb fan

      1 year ago

      “A profit making formula…as long as the suckers keep
      piling”…A very cynical outlook for something meant to be entertaining. I’ll bet you’re a riot at parties and get togethers. The S.F Giants(and Farhan Zaidi)simply don’t have an effective plan for free agency, drafting or development. They really haven’t since they ran Brian Sabean out of town. It’s not some sinister conspiracy as you imply and as far as a “profit making formula”, this is a capitalistic country and virtually all businesses and entities are geared towards a “profit making formula”.

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      • draker

        1 year ago

        There are lots of formulas for making profits in MLB – fielding the cheapest team possible and pocketing the revenue sharing money (Pittsburgh, Oakland), stacking the roster with mediocre players while annually hanging around the fringes of playoff competition (SF, Toronto) or, the model I prefer, hiring competent front office staff and winning championships (Philly, Atlanta, Texas). Nothing cynical about it.

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    • Jobu's Rum

      1 year ago

      “Pretend” isn’t the word of choice most Giants fans would use as they had a real shot to sign Aaron Judge and Carlos Correa.

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      • teddyj

        1 year ago

        Judge was never signing with San Francisco.

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      • mlb fan

        1 year ago

        “Real shot to sign Aaron”..I don’t think Judge was ever leaving the Yankees(unless he got close to $500M)although the Giants clearly tried. The Giants had Correa all but locked up, until medical concerns torched the deal. Anyone suggesting that the S.F Giants aren’t trying to bring in top talent via free agency, clearly isn’t watching. The Giants problem is not lack of effort in recruiting talent, but a lack of skill or prowess in assessing talent(they often sign the wrong free agents), drafting and development.

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    • jgoldfarb_4@msn.com 2

      1 year ago

      Maybe if we are lucky Johnson and his thirty + owners will consider selling the team. All this guy talks about is being competitive, never talks about WINNING.
      Fans need to stay away in order to get ownerships attention. They continue to stick with a bad President of baseball ops and made the wrong decision for a manager. They could have hired Stephen Vogt(in first place with the guardians). Padres Melvin’s team last season is thriving under Schilt.

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      • Not a clever name

        1 year ago

        I don’t agree at all. I’m happy with Melvin and honestly not that disappointed in the Giants. I’m not pleasantly surprised either but it’s been a good season to watch, a fun brand of baseball and they are in the end getting into the playoffs. Yes I like to win a World Series every other year, but with the dodgers diamond backs and padres all at their peak it’s not realistic to think any team in the NL west other than LA can put together a 100 win season at this point. So either you get the current version of the Giants or you go the Astros/cubs route and tank while your division is good so you can dominate when they are aging out and the way the Giants have drafted with two or three exceptions the last decade it’s more likely you end up being the Rockies than the Astros or the cubs. I’ll take competitive regular season with Webb, Harrison, and a healthy Snell or Hicks in the post season.

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    • foppert2

      1 year ago

      Wah Wah Wah. In other words…..things haven’t gone to my liking so there must be people conspiring against me and not trying to win. Everyone is just pretending so they can take my money. The ridiculous, soft as butter attitude of so many.

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      • oldgfan

        1 year ago

        Most ricockulous indeed.

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      • Pete'sView

        1 year ago

        Anyone who regularly watches the Giants knows their weaknesses—among them an avalanche of injuries and the need for at least one more everyday bat.

        But they also see the blooming talent (Lee, Bailey, Ramos, Wisely, Matos, Harrison, Hicks, Walker, Hjelle).

        They may or may not make the playoffs this year (depending on the return of Snell, Ray and Cobb) but next year looks bright whatever happens the rest of this season.

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  3. drasco036

    1 year ago

    The current playoff system is great for the regular season. It helps maintain a lot more interest in the regular season. Seriously if baseball still had the one wild card team format, over half the league would already be out of contention.

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    • fred-3

      1 year ago

      Yeah, a race to see who can finish 7 games over .500 and “win” the 6th wildcard spot. So exciting.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        So, are half the people complaining about everyone tanking, and half the people complaining about too many teams trying for the wildcard?

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        • fred-3

          1 year ago

          You don’t think the 6th wild card team waters down the league? At least add a expansion teams in each league if you’re gonna add extra playoff teams.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          The 5-6 place wild card hurts the first seed. Two questions: why is MLB allowing a lengthy wait between game 162 and game 1 for the bye teams, and why isn’t the first seed hosting every home game? Meaning, they should be rewarded in the LDS with all home games in the best of 5. They earned it by being the best regular season team.

          The 4-5 play-in was better if they made it on the Tuesday (have Monday for game 163 if needed), then travel to face 1-seed immediately on the Wednesday.

          If this is about revenue, make the LDS a best of 7 instead of 5. The 6-seed does water down the regular season and hurts the top seeds by basically sitting them for a week.

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      • giacgara

        1 year ago

        Well, it works. Baseball still has the fewest playoff spots of the major sports. I don’t hear anybody complaining about all the races for the eighth seed.

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    • Old York

      1 year ago

      @drasco036

      It’s a terrible format and we should return to the top two team, regardless of AL or NL, playing each other for the championship. If it ended today, it should be the Phillies vs. Guardians.

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      • giacgara

        1 year ago

        Oh, there’s a recipe for attendance drop and real fan apathy. No playoffs, just the World Series. That’ll kill the sport.

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        Old York – first MLB needs to add 2 teams, go back to East and West, that balances the schedule more than it is now with East/Central/West. Division winners get in, but if one division winner has a worse record than the 2nd place team in the other division, they should be 3-seed.

        The 4 vs 5 play-in is fine but don’t let them rest much. They should be penalized and forced to play all road games vs the 1-seed.

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    • amk1920

      1 year ago

      Last year the NL wild card race was said to be the same. Great for the game.. And then the Marlins had a rain out missed game last week of the season that did not even need to be replayed. Some race

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  4. Samuel

    1 year ago

    Another middling team.

    This one is living off their 2021 season of 107 wins – the epitome of an outlier.

    I get it. The FO are analytical geniuses. Farhan Zaidi and his staff are in their 7th year. They’ve finished .500 or over 2 times, which includes the 2021 season. Currently they’re 4 games under .500, with the 10th highest payroll in MLB (for those of you that live off of spreadsheets and have no sense of perception – there are 30 teams in MLB).

    Their former manger won the Giants multiple championships. He actually understands how to play ML baseball, manage and bring along players. He was graciously and respectfully phased out of his job and shown the door. But he wanted to keep managing. So last year the Texas Rangers hired the dinosaur and darned if the old coot didn’t win a championship for them. I look in the dugout and he’s never looking at his smartphone, printed statistical data, or for that matter – reading anything. He’s looking at what’s happening on the field of play. What a loser.
    –
    For the record, the Tigers FO head came out of that FO. It’s easy to temporarily take a long-term losing MLB organization, switch players around, and make strides in a few years. But more often than not, the competition adjusts and the players brought in come down to earth as the league figures them out. So until shown differently I remain skeptical about the Tigers as well.

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    • fred-3

      1 year ago

      I said this a few years ago, Farhan learned from Billy Beane the best. You’ll never get fired if no one has any expectations of you. It’s why he always builds teams that are projected to go .500. It’s also probably why he’ll get another year next season – no one expected anything from them this year.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      So last year the Texas Rangers hired the dinosaur and darned if the old coot didn’t win a championship for them.
      ========================
      Bochy is 127-117 with the Rangers with the #8 payroll and some good young talent. Let’s not pretend he re-invented the wheel.

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        4 World Series wins. Scoreboard.

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  5. Canuckleball

    1 year ago

    “Chapman is at least on the field and providing his customary excellent third base defense, even if his hitting has been only decent.”

    What more did they expect?

    He’s at a 109 OPS+ right now. He was a 108 OPS+ last season for the Jays. The season before he was a 116 OPS+. Before that, a 100 OPS+.

    He’s not going back to the early days of his career. This is what he has been for years now. A gold glove defender with a slightly above average bat.

    If they thought they were getting more, they were mistaken.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      LOL! I was going to write the same thing.

      “the signings of Chapman…haven’t gone to plan.”

      It’s gone almost identically to p[an. The dude with the 108+ over the past three seasons with a good glove shockingly has a 109+ with a good glove.

      Overall, Chapman is probably out-playing his expectations.

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    • draker

      1 year ago

      BTW Chapman’s defense has declined dramatically this season as well. Huge overpay, though perhaps not as bad as Snell. Worst front office in baseball.

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      • gbs42

        1 year ago

        draker,

        You’re aware there’s a team in Denver, right?

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  6. User 4245925809

    1 year ago

    Looks like SF is stuck paying Snell/Boras 30m in 2025 also. not even the perpetually greedy boras would allow Snell to opt out of the 25 option.

    So how well did those late signs do? Snell- bust. Montgomery- bust. both signs will end up costing teams 55m+ for 2y of nothing.

    Will the newish breed of gm’s learn boras is a liar and swindler? Doubtful.

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    • Tim is Dickless

      1 year ago

      The newish breed of GM are all ex-wall street execs from the same heritage. They seem to resist Boras more than the older GM’s did

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  7. Simm

    1 year ago

    I think the next couple of week will decide if the giants buy at the deadline.

    Schedule is pretty tough the next few games. Not in this order.

    Dodgers 1 game
    Braves 3 games
    Twins 3 games
    Jays 3 games
    Guardians 3 games

    Only the jays aren’t in a playoff position from that group. Those 13 games could decide their deadline plans. If they go 5-8 and drop 7 below .500 they likely don’t buy. My guess is they go 6-7 or 7-6 and are in about the same spot they are now and decide to not buy or sell.

    The giants don’t really have any real trade chips that I could see them moving and getting anything meaningful back. I’m probably missing someone but who are they going to trade Conforto? Does he even have any value. The Chapman and snell options make it less likely they move either of them same with Ray.

    With a month to go before the deadline I have the…

    Giants holding
    Pirates holding
    Nats selling
    Cubs selling (though like the giants not much to sell)
    Dbacks holding
    Reds selling
    Cards buying
    Padres buying
    Braves buying
    Mets buying (they have a number of trade chips but have been playing so well of late it’s hard to see them selling)

    Lots of things could change in the next 30 days but given the way the season has gone I expect most of these teams to be right around where they are now.

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    • JazzJazz

      1 year ago

      Nine straight against the other league?! How ret**ded.

      That series vs. the Indians looks fun, though.

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    • Tim is Dickless

      1 year ago

      I love all your predictions except Mets buying. I think Stearns might want to stack the farm in his first year but maybe I’m wrong

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  8. lakeg

    1 year ago

    Since the team does not seem to have seriously considered other candidates for manager outside of Bob Melvin, I’m asking the obvious question: Is he the right manager for this group of players in the present environment? Is he too stoic to inspire the troops?

    I’m looking at Stephen Vogt in Cleveland who turned a listless offense into a timely hitting group and the 2nd best record in MLB (so far) even with below average starting pitchers. No experience on the job but a buoyant personnality.

    After spending 20 years on the same job description, it’s not remotely possible to get a fresh approach… especially when you surround yourself with an older group of assistants (coaches/cronies) with similar personnalities,

    Upper management went with the popular/obvious candidate and look what they are reaping!! Pretty similar results to what Melvin got in San Diego last year with more talent than the Giants currently have even with a fully healthy team!

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    • jgoldfarb_4@msn.com 2

      1 year ago

      You are so right. Melvin (his coaches) are so wrong.

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  9. Olericat

    1 year ago

    Typical boras signings, overpay and under perform.

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  10. JayRyder

    1 year ago

    Why is this guy doing so many conferences ? I get it, he pushed Larry Baer to the side to me the face. Daddy owns majority stake in the team. And the team has gone woke. Farhan needs to be fired. And this guy needs to stop trying to be the team spokesman. They should have hired Vogt as manager.

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  11. jorge78

    1 year ago

    That Jung contract not looking so good…..

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  12. highflyballintorightfield

    1 year ago

    Giants doomer commenters are much less entertaining than Padres doomer commenters. No offense intended.

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    • oldgfan

      1 year ago

      You just shouldn’t expect to be entertained by such repetitive whining. Really hope the second half, when they get some starters back, will silence them with some success.

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      • MadBum14

        1 year ago

        Shocking: A team with one winning record in 8 years has pissed off fans

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        • foppert2

          1 year ago

          There’s being pissed off and then there’s whining incessantly and repetitively about everything. But cool, whatever excuse people need to behave like a spoilt child.

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  13. frugalfarhan

    1 year ago

    Weird because I dont read articles about LA or Cleveland or ATL or NY complaining about their injuries. This will not get better until they Fire Farhan and they need a big splash to replace him so hire Jeter who gives us a chance to sign Soto and Kim. Tank the rest of this year too so we can get a decent draft pick and spend the next 3 months figuring out who else out of our prospects can play. I would say make a few trades but don’t trust FZ to do that before being shown the door. Rotation and pen would be really good next year and lineup would be something like this:

    Kim SS
    Soto RF
    Ramos LF
    Chapman 3B
    Bailey C
    Soler DH
    Wade 1B
    Estrada/Wisely 2B
    Lee CF

    Starters are Webb, Snell, Ray, Hicks, and Harrison

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    • John Bird

      1 year ago

      Soto is never going to sign here.

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      • frugalfarhan

        1 year ago

        I know can you just let me dream a little???

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        • John Bird

          1 year ago

          Sorry, didn’t want you getting your hopes up, just to get zapped again. We go through this every year. FWIW I like going after Kim. Move Luciano to the outfield. Maybe make a run at Corbin Burnes.

          Reply
  14. hogansgoat

    1 year ago

    Stop whining every team has had significant injuries this year. As for the “excellent defense “
    comment by the writer; the dude has 9 errors so far so I don’t know what you’re watching

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  15. tedtheodorelogan

    1 year ago

    We have been being patient for the last 6 years Farhan has been in charge. The team blows and isn’t competitive. The time for being patient is over. It’s time for heads to roll.

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  16. Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

    1 year ago

    Zaidi has the same issues as his former boss Friedman. They put together a pitching staff based on potential instead of durability and act surprised when most of their signings never become available due to injury….

    Reply
  17. oldgfan

    1 year ago

    And while the whining continues, SFG takes a series win over the ducking fodgers.
    Everybody hits !

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      41-44.

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      • oldgfan

        1 year ago

        162

        Reply
  18. snowyphile1

    1 year ago

    Management should own the failings of this season and previous ones. DFA Zaidi.

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