The Giants announced a series of roster moves today, with left-hander Blake Snell as well as infielders Wilmer Flores and Thairo Estrada all reinstated from the injured list. One spot on the active roster was already opened when they traded outfielder Austin Slater to the Reds. They opened two more by optioning left-hander Kolton Ingram and designating shortstop Nick Ahmed for assignment. The latter move drops the 40-man roster count to 39.
Ahmed signed with San Francisco on a minor league deal early in Spring Training. The longtime Diamondback essentially took over for Brandon Crawford as a glove-first veteran shortstop. Ahmed hit well during exhibition play and made the roster, locking in a reported $1.5MM base salary in the process. He picked up the Opening Day nod at shortstop — the first time a player other than Crawford got that honor since Miguel Tejada back in 2011 — and went on to start 50 games overall.
As is typically the case with Ahmed, virtually all of his contributions came on defense. Statcast credited him as four runs better than average across 426 innings. Defensive Runs Saved was less bullish, grading him one run below par. He hit in the bottom third of the batting order and ran a .232/.278/.303 slash line with one homer over 172 plate appearances.
Ahmed is a two-time Gold Glove winner who has been one of the sport’s preeminent defensive shortstops throughout his career. While he’s still a good defender, his numbers have taken a step back from elite levels as he has gotten into his mid 30s. Ahmed has never been much of an offensive threat and has particularly struggled over the past few seasons. Since the start of the 2021 campaign, he owns a .222/.273/.330 line in a little more than 900 trips.
Estrada’s return from the IL will likely push Brett Wisely from second base to shortstop, at least against right-handed pitching. Righty hitting Tyler Fitzgerald is in the lineup tonight against Toronto southpaw Yusei Kikuchi. While the 25-year-old Wisely is stretched defensively at shortstop, he provides a higher offensive ceiling than Ahmed brought. Wisely owns a decent .278/.313/.421 slash through 135 plate appearances in his second MLB campaign.
The Giants have five days to trade Ahmed or place him on waivers. He has well over five years of MLB service time and would retain his entire salary if he clears waivers and becomes a free agent. A release is the likeliest outcome. Once Ahmed clears waivers, he could sign with another team for the prorated portion of the $740K minimum.
Meanwhile, Snell returns for his first MLB action in nearly six weeks. San Francisco’s late signing could hardly have gone worse to this point. Snell has battled groin issues throughout the year and been limited to six starts. Opponents have teed off on the defending NL Cy Young winner for a 9.51 earned run average through 23 2/3 innings. Snell will try to get his season on track when he takes on the Blue Jays this evening.
TAKERDBACKS
Come to arizona as a coach. Good dude. Wish him the best!
SFBay314
ADIOS! WILL NOT BE MISSED
JazzJazz
SFBay: The dude’s WAR is basically zero, not negative six or anything. Why so much venom?!
SFBay314
MEME:
“You’re a horrible person”
“I don’t think about you at all”
Not being missed, is not venom. Keep reaching
JazzJazz
SFB: Contextually, total venom. You’re a loon.
SFBay314
“Toxic”.
You’re cancelled.
tedtheodorelogan
I’ve never seen anybody take more off balanced swings in my life.
getrealgone2
Watch a few Orlando Arcia at bats.
Fred
I could excuse the dogshit swing if he was saving runs with his glove but he looked bad in the field as well.
Pete'sView
That’s been true more recently. He was much better offensively through most of the first part of the season; not a threat but not a sure out either. His glove is still solid, despite what the post insinuates.
semut
Watch an A’s game
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
Luciano time?
BatmanSF
For now, it’s Wisely time. He’s been the best option most of the year anyway.
oldgfan
Luciano is currently in a dismal slump.
Striking out a ton and has been moved off of shortstop to second base.
So probably Estrada to Shortstop and Wisely to Second. All good !
oldgfan
Wisely / Fitzgerald combo at either Short or Second will most likely provide better offense then Ahmed did. Either way works for me.
Jean Matrac
BaseballGuy55, While I agree, Wisely at short and Estrada at 2B, makes more sense defensively than the reverse, I disagree about Bichette. While he’s has hit in previous seasons, his 72 wRC+ this season isn’t much better than Ahmed’s 69. And he’s not good with the glove at all. For his career he has a -18 OAA, and a -7 DRS.
Schmitt isn’t the answer either. Don’t let those PCL numbers fool you. He can’t even crack the list of Fangraphs’ top 42 Giants’ prospects.
Pete'sView
No, they’ll keep Estrada at second and let Brett continue at ss with occasional chances for Fitzgerald at ss.
foppert2
I think so. Wisely in particular earned himself some confidence and commitment.
Good work.
Pete'sView
I’d take Bo Bichette in a heart beat. The guy can rake and steal bases. This year is his only poor year and he’s young.
Jean Matrac
Pete’sView, Where would Bichette play? He’s a defensively liability at SS. The Giants already have 3 guys that can play 2B. Bichette has never played a single inning at any other position.
He won’t come cheap. Do you really want the Giants to give up something of quality in hope of him re-finding his swing?
Dumpster Divin Theo
When is Luciano time? Does it fall between Brkiano time and Diniano time just before Napiano time?
In nurse follars
Seems like more roster churning this year than years past. Wonder if there is a statistical analysis of roster days lost to injuries year over year. Seems like a lot so far.
mtb67
Seems like less churn to me!
Candlestoked
The Churnometer is down 23.4 since this time last season.
Dumpster Divin Theo
It’s up 7.2 since 19 minutes ago
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
So they released their starting shortstop for most of the year
Luciano surely has to be ready right? He’s been talked about for almost half a decade
oldgfan
Sadly, no.
Yoki
It’s Brett Wisely ‘s spot for now, unless they trade for somebody.
Fred
Ahmed hasn’t been the guy for months.
mtb67
Luciano will never be ready to play SS
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Luciano is gonna be a top 100 prospect for the next 10 years
Pete'sView
Marco Luciano will not be a Major League shortstop. Third base maybe. Outfield maybe. Even first base.
semut
I could see him at 1st but I wouldn’t trust his cement glove at the hot corner
davemlaw
Lotta B hole so called Giant fans took issue with Ahmed.
The guy plays a good SS and he had some clutch hits. Also, he was making less than $1M this year.
Wish him the best, everyone on the team and media always had great things to say about him.
TigersLoveCinnamon
Wish him the best as well, but he hasn’t been what he’s cracked up to be defensively this year.
408inthe619
Completely agree with Dave. I also think this is the right time to part ways for both the Giants and Ahmed. Gives him the ability to sign with a contender, and now the Giants can really evaluate Wisely on an everyday basis (I’m still not sold on him, for whatever reason)
dubtastic
maybe that reason, is because we’ve all seen Wisely play terrible in the past and we’re not certain that his play is sustainable..
claude raymond
“we’ve all seen”? So “past” would be defined as up until today. Am I right dub? Which game did you all see him make his only error so far? He’s played 4 positions and has ONE error. Looks pretty “sustainable” to me.
dubtastic
the better word I should’ve used is that he’s hit terribly in the past..as in last year and the hitting not being sustainable..but hey, his new batting stance turned his career around
stymeedone
If you are a contender, you already have better than Ahmed. He might fit with a team like the Marlins.
talking baseball
He was making 1.5 mil this year.
foppert2
Agreed. Did a very good job. All the best to him.
User 355748524
Still a great defender. Still has some value as a bench piece; certainly not with the bat but with the glove at least.
semut
Great defender? Giants likely wouldn’t have DFA’d him if that was the case. His defense was definitely lacking this year
Datashark
Defensively better (and slight better hitter) than Crawford from last year and STL may be looking as well to relieve crawford.
disadvantage
For the Giants fan who cried when they signed Ahmed and let Crawford walk, this transaction is the exact reason why.
Could you imagine if the Giants had a struggling Crawford on their roster and had to pick between adding a younger, more productive player and unceremoniously cutting B-Craw? It would’ve been a nightmare.
oldgfan
Exactly right !
Monkey’s Uncle
Very solid point.
27champyankees
The Giants. Haha
Zaidi committed 400 Million this past offseason and they still can’t play above .500
disadvantage
@chumpy
That’s pretty easy to explain, though. They were never going to be division leaders, and injuries have affected some of their key players (while their record might not be substantially better, I’d have loved to see what they could’ve done with a healthy Jung Hoo, as my avatar might suggest).
What is harder to explain is how the Yankees, for all of their massive spending and acquiring big name players, are 3.0 games back from a team with a third of their payroll.
Gmen777
They also have one ring in the past 24 years to the Giants three
stymeedone
Injuries are a poor excuse. Every team has injuries. Not every team has depth.
disadvantage
@styme
You’re not wrong, but I didn’t really make a substantive enough claim about the team for injuries to be a poor “excuse”. That’s doubly so when @chumpy’s argument is that the team can’t play above .500 with $400mm in commitments this offseason when $100mm+ of those commitments is out for the season (JH Lee).
drasco036
Giants-3
Red Sox-2
Astros-2
Cardinals
Royals
Braves
Cubs
Rangers
Dodgers
Nationals
Just in case you needed a reminder of all the teams that have won a World Series since the Yankees have won their last one.
dbacksrs
Guess Nick Ahmed won’t be accepting a Ring if the Giants win the World Series.
Jean Matrac
Yes he would. On the extremely long odds of that happening, every guy that played on the Giants’ ML roster would get a ring. In 2010, Bengie Molina got a Giants’ WS ring, and a Rangers’ AL pennant ring.
dbacksrs
He did not accept the D-Backs 2023 NL Pennant Ring on his own account, why I mentioned it.
Jean Matrac
That’s interesting. Do you know why? Was it because they released him?
Ghost Pepper
Yup
semut
That was a completely different situation though. That was his home of ten years, and was cut pretty unexpectedly with less than a month to go. I remember his interview right after that, he was pretty emotional and upset. He felt (and seems to still) feel slighted by them.
Totally different than with the Giants, where he was never more than just a fill-in piece
Gmen777
Put up or shut up time for Snell.
5TUNT1N
He got the starts he wanted for rehab, shoved in the last one no hits 9ks and 1 BB but only 5ip.
TigersLoveCinnamon
His last rehab start before this IL stint included a perfect inning, and a no hit appearance. He’s expressed more frustration with the organization than himself at this point. He’ll probably just go through the motions until the end of this year, no doubt he’ll opt in
Gmen777
I have not seen a single thing hinting at frustration for the organization but I have seen several articles about him being frustrated with himself
TigersLoveCinnamon
“I haven’t felt like myself”
Sure frustration, nothing about saying he’s just bad though
“it’s just we need you, we need you”
That’s him saying they’re rushing him. Sure he tried to go back on it, but he said what he said. Dude just sucks
foppert2
They did need him. He is getting paid plenty to be needed.
Here’s hoping it’s a new beginning.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Ooh, wait till Snell hears what Gmen said.
Motor City Beach Bum
Trade him to Detroit for Baez. Please……
dubtastic
it would take a Pablo Sandoval bobblehead to make that trade happen..
Motor City Beach Bum
Sold. We will give you the Bobblehead too and Mr I will pitch in free pizza for life!
Pete'sView
Baez?!!! Just what the Giants need, another big swing and miss guy. No thanks!
Motor City Beach Bum
It was a joke. No one will take Baez. If Greenberg gets a taker for Baez he should automatically win manager of the year. Even if the return us the Big Panda bobblehead.
TigersLoveCinnamon
Finally, Luke Jackson next please
oldgfan
He will probably be given a few more mop up chances while waiting on Cobb & Ray.
If he continues to suck maybe sooner.
TigersLoveCinnamon
It’d be fine if he were only given mop up chances, but they’re putting him in close games cause they have nobody else. The fact that they optioned bivens and didn’t dfa him is appalling. They just need to eat the money at this point
duffys cliff
Come home to Boston, Nick. Would love to have you as a veteran bench presence.
Bochy's Dad
Bo Bichette please
Jean Matrac
No thanks.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Little Bo peep. That’s what she said.
StudWinfield
Ahh Ahmed, #3 on the UCONN alum WAR list behind Springer and Nagy. Go Huskies.
lakeg
Before posting an article online, the author should check the stats… ALL the stats: Brett Wisely has reverse stats at the plate, His AVG is: .407 vs lefties & .242 vs righties
Oh! His OPS vs lefties (same side) is 1.095
talking baseball
Giants don’t need or want Bichette.
If Farhan trades for him, he should be fired as soon as he hangs up the phone. Get all the antilitical people in the front office and can them too. Get back to baseball instead of numbers on the computer.
gravel
“antilitical”
Analytics have been around for decades. Antilitics have been around as long as your post.
dubtastic
Antilitical,lol? Wait they’re anti on analytics right?
spooky
No pop and was a dead pull hitter. Decent glove with a puss arm. Ahmed did what he had to do in spring training but he’s cooked. The Giants are better off playing Wisely, Fitz or Luciano
Candlestoked
Trying to envision a puss arm.
Jean Matrac
Maybe it’s equivalent to a weenie arm in the feminine sense.
oldgfan
Looks just like a vaginal appendage would.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Say Ahmed to that!
ForeverGiantsFan
I liked having him and Chapman on defense with our ground ball pitching staff. Wisely or Fitzgerald will be defensive liability at shortstop.