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Reds Acquire Ty France

By Steve Adams | July 29, 2024 at 11:51am CDT

The Reds announced Monday that they’ve acquired first baseman Ty France and cash from the Mariners in exchange for minor league catcher Andruw Salcedo. Seattle designated France for assignment last week. Cincinnati also placed catcher Austin Wynns on the 10-day injured list due to a lat strain, selected the contract of catcher Eric Yang from Triple-A Louisville and transferred righty Graham Ashcraft to the 60-day IL to open a 40-man spot. Their 40-man roster is now at capacity. Seattle is reportedly sending around $1.29MM to cover part of France’s remaining salary.

Entering the season, the notion of the Reds acquiring a first baseman would’ve seemed silly. Cincinnati had an infield surplus and a particular glut of first basemen, with Christian Encarnacion-Strand, Spencer Steer and offseason signee Jeimer Candelario all standing as options at the position. However, Encarnacion-Strand’s season ended early due to wrist surgery, while Steer has seen significant time in the outfield. Candelario has spent much of the year at third base but has been at first base more frequently since Noelvi Marte returned from an 80-game PED suspension. France figures to slide in at first base — certainly against left-handed pitching — while Candelario could see increased time at designated hitter.

Originally drafted by the Padres, France went to Seattle alongside Andres Munoz in the 2020 trade that sent catcher Austin Nola from Seattle to San Diego. He broke out immediately with the M’s and for several seasons was one of their most productive hitters — even earning a well-deserved All-Star nod in 2022. From 2020-22, France posted a combined .285/.355/.443 batting line. He belted 42 homers despite playing in the game’s most pitcher-friendly park, adding 68 doubles and three triples along the way. He didn’t walk much (6.5%) but also went down on strikes in only 16.7% of his plate appearances.

France’s bat took a step back in 2023, when he hit .250/.337/.366 with a dozen homers. His bat-to-ball skills remained strong, however, and his batted-ball metrics remained in line with those that he’d posted during that strong 2020-22 run. A dip in his homer-to-flyball rate was at least partially to blame, and the Mariners tendered France a contract despite the down year, understandably betting on his track record and the ostensibly fluky nature of his ’23 downturn.

The rebound the M’s had expected never manifested, unfortunately, and this year’s struggles are more alarming. France’s contact skills have dipped noticeably. After making contact on 91.2% of pitches in the strike zone in the three preceding seasons, his contact rate on balls in the zone has dropped to 87%. He’s chased off the plate less but also swung less in general as well, dropping from a 52.5% swing rate to a 48% mark. As he’s gotten more passive and made contact in the zone less often, pitchers have attacked him more (58% first-pitch strike rate in 2021-23; 61.2% in ’24). The change in approach hasn’t worked out, as France’s strikeout rate has spiked to a career-worst 24.4%.

The Reds, in dire need of an offensive jolt, will send a low-level catching prospect to the Mariners in hope of turning France around. He’ll move from one of the worst settings for a hitter (Seattle’s T-Mobile Park) to one of the best (Cincinnati’s Great American Ball Park) — and that swap alone should help France in the power department. The Reds will hope that the change in scenery and some new coaching input and new data from their front office can help France get back to his prior form. They’ve received an awful .215/.266/.363 slash from their first basemen this season, so France will have a low bar to clear when it comes to providing an upgrade..

If France is indeed able to return to form — or at least more closely approximate his peak form — he’ll be a multi-year option for Cincinnati. He’s not currently signed to a contract for the 2025 season but is arbitration-eligible one final time this winter. The Reds would owe him a raise on this year’s $6.775MM salary, though his early struggles in Seattle should tamp down the weight of any salary increase and keep him shy of $10MM. If not, France would be a trade or (likelier) non-tender candidate in the offseason.

As for the Mariners, they’ll bring in a 21-year-old catcher who’s played parts of four seasons in the Reds’ system. Salcedo carries a .246/.347/.330 batting line in a still-small sample of 98 professional games. He’s fanned in 27.5% of his plate appearances but also walked at a hearty 11.4% clip. He’s not regarded among the Reds’ top prospects, but that sort of low-level lottery ticket return is to be expected for a veteran player on a notable salary. In the meantime, they’ll continue to give regular playing time at first base to top prospect Tyler Locklear while also scouring the market for an additional bat to add to the mix after acquiring Randy Arozarena from the Rays last week.

Ronald Blum of the Associated Press reported the specifics of the cash considerations.

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77 Comments

  1. James Midway

    10 months ago

    I think that’s a good fit. I like France and I hope he does well there.

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    • Big whiffa

      10 months ago

      I agree. Nice grab !

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      10 months ago

      Should say Steer has played a good deal in the outfield this year, not “Strand”.

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    • earmbrister

      10 months ago

      Got a roughly league average hitter for a minor leaguer who has struggled mightily offensively. Solid move.

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    • HatlessPete

      10 months ago

      Yeah I like the move to Cincinnati for France. Couldn’t ask.for better bounceback conditions as a hitter who has struggled in seattle.

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    • lesterdnightfly

      10 months ago

      Reds fans are having a good “fit”, all season long.

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      • HatlessPete

        10 months ago

        Uh…what?

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  2. Armaments216

    10 months ago

    France and India have been united.

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    • davidewhitt

      10 months ago

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      • davidewhitt

        10 months ago

        LOL!

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    • Devlsh

      10 months ago

      Domingo German(y) and Zach Britton (sic) sure to follow!

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      10 months ago

      France surrenders to Cincinnati.

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      • James Midway

        10 months ago

        Wouldn’t be the first time France surrendered

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    • Degaz

      10 months ago

      Now the Reds just need to complete the infield with Joe China and Ichiro Canada…

      Reply
  3. smkelly1970

    10 months ago

    a classic low risk, potential high reward move for the Reds.

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    • Wire to wire 2024

      10 months ago

      Is he a free agent after this year?

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      • wayneroo

        10 months ago

        No, one more year of arb control, free agent after next year.

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        • JoeBrady

          10 months ago

          But more importantly, will he be worth the $7-8M with a 0.7 bWAR over the past two seasons?

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        • mrkinsm

          10 months ago

          If he hits like he did in SEA he’s getting nontendered.

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        • FromTheCheapSeats

          10 months ago

          Candelario is almost identical, and they’re paying him $15M/.

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        • mrkinsm

          10 months ago

          Yep, the Reds should move him in the next 24 hours if at all possible.

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  4. hllywdjff

    10 months ago

    Salcedo hasn’t hit a home run in 3 years. Come on Jerry!

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    • Ringorbust

      10 months ago

      France was just outrighted and about to be released. Getting anything is a minor miracle.

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  5. davemlaw

    10 months ago

    France will do great in Cincy and make the M’s regret giving up on him.

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    • wayneroo

      10 months ago

      What else does your crystal ball say?

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      • baseball_is_boring

        10 months ago

        It’s crystal meth he’s looking at

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    • myaccount2

      10 months ago

      There is nothing he can do with Cincy that will make the M’s regret this. He’s going from the least hitter-friendly ballpark to arguably the most hitter-friendly, of course his numbers will increase. Him doing well there doesn’t mean he was going to suddenly erase 1.5 years of subpar hitting with bad defense and terrible baserunning in Seattle.

      I hope he does well. I hope he gets back to .270 hitting with 20+ HR because it wasn’t going to happen with the M’s.

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      • slasher016

        10 months ago

        I’m not sure anyone would argue it’s the most hitter friendly. 6th this year behind Coors, KC, Chase, Target, Angels. 7th for HRs.

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        • myaccount2

          10 months ago

          Why would we base it on just this year? That’s very short-sighted. Park Factors need multiple years to have meaning.

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    • SeaIndy

      10 months ago

      Even if he does, I don’t see that happening.
      Fans love France but his batting has been terrible for 2 years now, his approach has changed with how much he gets HBP. If you took out the HBP his OBP an OPS are atrocious. He’s incredibly slow and his defense has taken big steps back.

      I always wanted him to drop a lil weight, work on his speed an move him to 2nd base, but they kept him at first.

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    • C Us Sink

      10 months ago

      If France has a miraculous rebound, good for him. And since he’d be with an NL team, we’d rarely have to see him anyhow…so good luck to Ty.

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  6. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    10 months ago

    Good move reds

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  7. lesterdnightfly

    10 months ago

    And in Pirates news,
    …
    …
    …
    …
    there is none.

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    • just_thinkin

      10 months ago

      Lemme get Bednar for Stowers.

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    • Not a casual MLB fan

      10 months ago

      The punchline writes itself.

      All of the other NL Central teams already have or will be making moves shortly.

      YOUR move, Ben. The Pirates’ starting rotation thanks you in advance!《SARCASM FONT》

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      • User 4095290658

        10 months ago

        He just made a trade… please keep up.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          10 months ago

          And an earthshaking trade it is ! Raise the Jolly Roger and storm the Alcoa Center !

          /s

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  8. Littleman20

    10 months ago

    Sometimes the change of scenery can really help somebody because Ty France still very good baseball player who is just had a rough year and a half

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    • Blackpink in the area

      10 months ago

      Seattle is a tough place to hit. Cincy is not. Could be good for the Reds and France.

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  9. The Natural

    10 months ago

    Makes little sense to me when you have Steer on the roster. If Friedl, Fraley, Benson, Fairchild, Candelario etc are healthy, I dont see a spot for France.

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    • dhud

      10 months ago

      Friedl and Candy have struggled to stay healthy and the reds OF has been a black hole offensively

      Ideally this keeps Steer off the dirt by giving the Reds another bat to slot with Candy at DH/1B

      But I know as I type this Bell is already writing “Espinal – DH” on tonight’s card….

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      • Stingray16

        10 months ago

        That or he has Benson slotted in the lineup again

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    • MVottoP76

      10 months ago

      Steer to LF…France at 1st…the Reds OF will be Steer, Friedl (until he gets hurt again) and Fraley…Candy DH

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        10 months ago

        You could say the same about Fraley (until he gets hurt).

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  10. wileycoyote56

    10 months ago

    This should be a good ballpark for Ty to regain his power stroke. If he can’t hit dingers at Great American, he never will

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    • SeaIndy

      10 months ago

      He’s not a power guy. That’s the big knock with him, he’s a singles contact hitter with no speed

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  11. marinerfan

    10 months ago

    Any relation to our reliever Saucedo?

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    • marinerfan

      10 months ago

      Never mind, I didn’t look close enough at the different spelling.

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    • deepseamonster32

      10 months ago

      They could be 7th cousins and the guy at Ellis Island misspelled their name. That’s the heartwarming story I’m going with

      Reply
  12. Monkey’s Uncle

    10 months ago

    He’s French! Why do you think he has this out-RAgeous accENT, you silly king?

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  13. tjhall23

    10 months ago

    Hopefully the trade for Salcedo indicates that a bigger trade involving Ford is coming.

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    • toycannon

      10 months ago

      Hopefully not. Do not trade Ford.

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    • slund24

      10 months ago

      I dont think this trade would have anything to do with a Ford trade. This kid is on IL and has barely played in his 4 year minors career.

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    • deepseamonster32

      10 months ago

      While his minor league BA that never crossed .200 indicates he’s a perfect fit for the M’s, he’s probably just a body behind the plate. An org catcher.

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      • deepseamonster32

        10 months ago

        Whoops, I guess that BA is true of his post rookie ball tenure, not his entire career.

        But he ain’t no Harry Ford replacement!

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  14. Moneyballer

    10 months ago

    Reds going french? Forget them! U S A

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      10 months ago

      *munches on French fries*

      Yeah! Go America!

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      • Ziskmania

        10 months ago

        That were invented in Belguim

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        • Monkey’s Uncle

          10 months ago

          *munches on Belgian waffle*

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        • baseball_is_boring

          10 months ago

          That were once called freedom fries for quick second

          Reply
  15. sultan of swat

    10 months ago

    How’s the Locklear kid looking at first? I haven’t seen him play. Big time minor league numbers.

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    • slund24

      10 months ago

      Way better defensively than France and much faster obviously. Not hitting into as many DPs as France but still not really hitting in his limited time.

      Reply
  16. This one belongs to the Reds

    10 months ago

    So they go out and get another guy hitting .220 and striking out a ton to go with .190 hitting Benson who strikes out a ton.

    Smooth move, ex-lax.

    At least he only cost an A ball catcher.

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    • Stingray16

      10 months ago

      Don’t forget the monster trade for Slater they made earlier. I don’t think he has a hit since joining the team. But yet they send Hinds down.

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      • Line2line 2

        10 months ago

        Good god you’re stupid “this one belongs to the reds”

        Why are you a fan of a team you don’t like? You are loser in every aspect of life clown

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    • Alan Horn

      10 months ago

      I don’t see this guy moving the needle for the Red’s anemic offense.

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  17. dhud

    10 months ago

    I don’t math good but…isn’t another move going to be required?

    Added France and Yang, subtracted Wynns

    Reply
  18. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    10 months ago

    Surprised they got anything back for France. Now go get a big bat 1B!

    Reply
  19. crazybaseballgal

    10 months ago

    Mariners fan here. Wishing Ty France nothing but the best. Still think he has offensive skills in him.

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  20. Degaz

    10 months ago

    FWIW Reds fan here and I currently have 87 prospects ranked with the Reds and Salcedo was never a consideration for my list

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  21. ChasingTime

    10 months ago

    .223 is an better than half the Reds lineup this year. Can’t hurt.

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    • octavian8

      10 months ago

      They say he’s a singles hitter with no power but he’s fourth on the reds in homers.

      Reply
  22. tonyinsingapore

    10 months ago

    Mike Ford 2.0?

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    • tonyinsingapore

      10 months ago

      Baseball Prospectus 2024 said it best; if you’re 1B your only skill cannot be HBP…

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  23. Jacksson13

    10 months ago

    The Reds search for a First Baseman has taken them to FRANCE !!

    Reply
  24. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    10 months ago

    “The rebound the M’s had expected never manifested, unfortunately, and this year’s struggles are more alarming.”

    What’s really alarming is how bad of a writer Steve Adams is. As a conjunctive adverb, “unfortunately” has to START the sentence. Otherwise it needlessly interrupts the sentence’s flow. This is much better and knocks out a comma:

    “Unfortunately, the rebound the M’s had expected never manifested and this year’s struggles are more alarming.”

    Reply
  25. g-man

    10 months ago

    After 3.5 weeks, it looks like the move has done Ty good. I’m a Mariners fan, and I didn’t like ditching him. While he’d fallen off from 2022, his OPS was exactly the team average at the time he was traded. T-Mobile Park is unfriendly to hitters, just look at the stats guys like Teo Hernandez put up before and after they played there.

    Thankfully, Victor Robles has been the exception to the rule, but Justin Turner (small sample size) has not.

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