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Blue Jays Sign Max Scherzer

By Darragh McDonald | January 30, 2025 at 11:59pm CDT

The Blue Jays officially announced their one-year deal with Max Scherzer. The Boras Corporation client reportedly receives a $15.5MM salary with no deferrals and a full no-trade clause.

Scherzer is obviously a legend in the game and a future Hall of Famer. He debuted back in 2008, has almost 3,000 innings in the majors with a 3.16 earned run average, three Cy Young trophies, eight All-Star selections and two World Series rings.

The question is what he has left in the tank at this point. He is now 40 years old and coming off an injury-marred season. He started 2024 on the injured list while recovering from offseason back surgery. Though he recovered from that, he also battled a nerve issue in his hand, shoulder fatigue and a strained hamstring throughout the season. He was limited to just nine starts and 43 1/3 innings.

That obviously creates some concern but Scherzer has been remarkably durable throughout his career. In each full season from 2009 to 2023, he made 27 or more starts and logged at least 145 1/3 innings. From 2013 to 2018, he had six straight seasons of hitting the 200-inning plateau. In short, 2024 was the first season of his career where he missed significant time.

Even though the volume of his output was low, some of the results last year were still decent. He posted a 3.95 earned run average over those nine starts. His 22.6% strikeout rate was a drop for him personally but still around league average, while his 5.6% walk rate was still a very strong mark. His velocity was down as well on his fastball, going from 93.7 miles per hour in 2023 to 92.5 mph last year.

There are obviously some yellow flags in there but it’s of course possible that better health could lead to some better results. It’s a bit of a gamble for the Jays but this is clearly the market rate for a veteran pitcher with some question marks. Each of Justin Verlander, Charlie Morton and Alex Cobb secured one-year deals worth $15MM this offseason. Scherzer symbolically got past that group with an extra half mil.

There are many ways in which Verlander and Scherzer are similar, given their lengthy careers full of accolades. The two have also crossed paths many times, as they were both in the Detroit rotation just over a decade ago, before reuniting with the Mets more recently. Verlander’s 2024 was also injury-marred, though with perhaps some more concerning numbers. His 17 starts and 90 1/3 innings were more than Scherzer managed but Verlander had a 5.48 ERA and his strikeout rate dropped all the way to 18.7%. Verlander is also a bit older, about to turn 42 next month.

Cobb is only 37 but he only managed three starts last year, plus two more in the playoffs, thanks to his own maladies. He also doesn’t quite have the same legendary track record as Scherzer or Verlander. Morton, who is now 41, managed to make 30 starts for Atlanta last year but he seemingly limited his market by having a preference for clubs with spring training sites near his family in Florida.

The Jays have been connected to just about every available free agent this winter. That has included some high-profile position players like Juan Soto, Alex Bregman and Pete Alonso, as well as starting pitchers like Roki Sasaki, Max Fried and Corbin Burnes. There were obviously some frustrating misses in there, but the club has had a couple of strikes more recently. In the past three weeks, they’ve added Anthony Santander to their lineup, Jeff Hoffman to their bullpen and now Scherzer to the rotation.

While the Jays may have preferred to get one of those other starting pitchers, Scherzer keeps their commitment short. It also gives the club a very veteran rotation core. Kevin Gausman is 34, Chris Bassitt will turn 36 next month and José Berríos will be 31 in May. Those four are sure to be taking the ball with regularity, as long as they’re all healthy.

If Scherzer avoids the injury bug this year, he’ll upgrade the rotation and could perhaps indirectly upgrade the bullpen as well. Prior to this signing, Bowden Francis and Yariel Rodríguez were projected as the top options for the fourth and final spots in the rotation. Even with Scherzer in the fold, Francis will likely still get a rotation spot. After the Jays traded Yusei Kikuchi at the deadline last year, Francis got a rotation audition and ran with it. He finished out the campaign with 59 innings over nine starts with a 1.53 ERA, 26.5% strikeout rate and 3.3% walk rate. He still has one minor league option but the Jays would surely like to see if he could carry that forward.

That could push Rodríguez into a relief role, something he has done with success before. Last year was his first in the majors and he made 21 starts with decent results. He had a 4.47 ERA, 23.1% strikeout rate and 10.9% walk rate. But prior to signing with the Jays, he was a dominant closer in Japan. In 2022, he made 56 appearances for the Chunichi Dragons with a 1.15 ERA, 27.5% strikeout rate and 8.3% walk rate. He sat out 2023 while attempting to be declared a free agent.

Going into last year, Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reported that Rodríguez’s contract stipulated he could only be optioned for the 2024 season. The Blue Jays did indeed option him a few times last year but it seems they won’t be able to do so from now on, so perhaps he’ll end up in the bullpen instead. He could compete for a leverage role alongside Hoffman, Yimi García, Chad Green and Erik Swanson.

That would subtract from the rotation depth a bit, but the Jays have a few more options there than they did last year. They added Jake Bloss, who already has a bit of Triple-A and MLB experience, in the aforementioned Kikuchi deal. Adam Macko is on the 40-man roster and should be in Triple-A this year after spending most of 2024 in Double-A. Alek Manoah had internal brace surgery in June and could make a late-season return. Since Scherzer is one a one-year deal and Bassitt is going into the final year of his pact, there are long-term openings for that group if any of them have a good showing in 2025.

RosterResource now sets the club’s payroll at $250MM and and their competitive balance tax number at $273MM. That puts them already well beyond last year’s Opening Day payroll, which Cot’s Baseball Contracts put at $225MM. Their CBT number was over the line in 2024 but they ducked under when their disappointing season lead to a deadline selloff, so they will go into 2025 as “first-time” payors. They are now within striking distance of the third CBT line, which will be $281MM next year. Going over that marker this year would mean their top pick in the 2026 draft would be pushed back 10 spots.

Despite running those numbers up to new heights, it doesn’t appear they are done. Per Bob Nightengale of USA Today, the Jays are still interested in Pete Alonso if he doesn’t circle back to the Mets while Keegan Matheson of MLB.com also suggests they should still have some flexibility. Maybe the Jays will add Alonso or someone else, or finally get an extension done with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. It’s been a long, frustrating winter for Jays fans but a lot has changed in the past few weeks, perhaps with more to come. Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in about two weeks.

Jon Heyman of The New York Post first reported that Scherzer was headed to the Jays. Bob Nightengale of USA Today first reported that it was a one-year deal. Heyman then reported the $15.5MM guarantee. Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet first had the lack of deferrals. Heyman had the no-trade clause.

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  1. dbacksrs

    4 months ago

    Welcome to Canada, eh?

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    • LordD99

      4 months ago

      Max is mad for Molsons.

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      • bigdaddyt

        4 months ago

        Mad max Zamboni edition

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      • Poolhalljunkies

        4 months ago

        Labatts > Molson

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        • cpdpoet

          4 months ago

          Moosehead has entered the chat…..

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        • SonnySteele

          4 months ago

          If you ever get to the Michigan area, try a craft ale called Dirty Bastard. Tastes great (if you like ales) and has 8 percent alcohol.

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    • runningwithnailclippers

      4 months ago

      Ya hoser. 🙂

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    • VegasSDfan

      4 months ago

      Huge overpay, he has pitched what 17 games in two years

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      • MuleorAstroMule

        4 months ago

        Matt Boyd got $29M over two years. Severino got $67M for three. Montas got $34M over two years. I’ll take Scherzer at that price.

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        • JackStrawb

          4 months ago

          That’s the definition of a false choice. “Here, I’ll point to two bad deals, one of which is singularly ridiculous, and claim that bc the Scherzer deal might not be quite as awful (it really is), it’s actually good.”

          This is the essence of a GM trying to look busy.

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        • BennyG1919

          4 months ago

          What else do you want them to do? Nothing? You sound like the idiots saying Santander is a bad deal… it’s like do you want the player or not ? Not every deal is in your favor when you have needs. If you need to borrow money you have to pay interest , you are in a position of weakness and the lender is in a position of strength . Same goes for sports… you need the (money) player so you have to pay the cost

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        • bwmiller79

          4 months ago

          Definitely fair deal, Scherzer and Verlander both signed on the 40 and over discount.

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        • carlos15

          4 months ago

          True, almost all players in the end are a bad deal. There are few deals where you look back and think it was successful from the teams perspective.

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        • holecamels35

          4 months ago

          There aren’t a lot of good cheap deals in free agency. Have to pay the market price or accept getting nothing but minor league deals or extremely flawed guys on bounceback deals.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          4 months ago

          @Jack

          Or is it a low risk high reward move? They likely don’t have any better options. They have money to spend. If he turns out well, then maybe they can compete? If he’s good but the team isn’t in contention them they could absolutely trade him at the deadline for a low-end prospect, and if he sucks then you cut bait and just release him. It’s just a one year deal. No harm.

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        • MuleorAstroMule

          4 months ago

          @JackStrawb For one, I pointed to three deals. I did that to give a cross-section of other pitchers who have injury history, had significant success at the ML level, were free agents coming into this season, and signed contracts. I think that’s a fair criteria and I didn’t just cherry pick bad deals. If you feel those deals are bad, doesn’t that suggest that Scherzer’s isn’t?

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        • JackStrawb

          4 months ago

          @KnicksFanCavsFan It’s a fair point, but I think it goes over better if the Jays weren’t clearly shooting for a wildcard berth and didn’t have significant problems with their starting pitching which Max doesn’t do a lot to solve.

          If they’re looking for upside or someone they can flip if it’s all going wrong, a 40 year old coming off league average results in 2024 with lower than league average peripherals and a worse FIP (4.18) who could only take the field for 43 innings probably isn’t going to yield much of a return in a reasonable best-case scenario even if he’s fairly healthy and pitching as of the Deadline. He just doesn’t have the arm any more to really take off the way true high-upside guys can.

          We can disagree of course over what his upside looks like—but I’m just not seeing the kind of upside the Jays desperately need after a 74 win season with a 94 ERA+ pitching staff. A gamble on someone like Seth Lugo or the 2025 version of Lugo in Clay Holmes at a similar AAV to what Max is getting makes (or would have made) a lot more sense for a team like the Jays who have to hit and hit big on at least a few significant gambles in order to have a shot at the postseason.

          To push the metaphor, signing Scherzer seems like needing to make $100k on your last roll of the dice to save your house (what with Vlad and Bo departing) but rather than putting $20k down on a 5 to 1 bet, you put $1k down on a 2 to 1 bet. Even if you win, it doesn’t get you what you need.

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        • Tigers3232

          4 months ago

          @Jack This does not mean that they will not sign another pitcher. And to say they should find 2025 version of Lugo, well that doesn’t seem to be available. Trying to paint Holmes as that is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

          As for Scherzer you are making an assumption based off of #s from a guy returning from injury. Yes his durability is a question with age and last few seasons. Jays more than likely have looked throughly into his medical records. They also watched him pitch.

          You also are completely ignoring the value he brings from a business perspective. This is a future first ballot HOFer quite possibly on a farewell tour. He also will be climbing the top 10 All Time Ks list. He could possibly move up 5 spots from 11 to 6th this season. Those tickets are going to be very desirable tickets for fans. A horrible Tigers team in 2003 packed Comerica when Clemens was going for 300. Sadly that was one of few games they won that year. It’s as tho I’m not meant to witness history, I ve had bad luck with Miggy milestones as well.

          Overall though the point is Scherzer isn’t all that bad of a deal. It’s alot of upside and low risk seeing as it’s a one year deal.

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        • Paleobros

          4 months ago

          Actually, its’ an Example of a false choice; not the definition.

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        • Paleobros

          4 months ago

          And just to cover off, water is not wet. It’s a liquid that makes things wet:)

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        • sillywabbit

          4 months ago

          Which is why Luis Castillo’s contract has plus value. The cost of free agent pitching has gone through the roof.

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        • stymeedone

          4 months ago

          @bennyg1919
          You forgot an option. Sometimes you just do without.

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        • SODOMOJO

          4 months ago

          Extremely baffling how this one year deal could be considered an “overpay.” This is low-risk, high reward.

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        • SonnySteele

          4 months ago

          Jim Edmonds had a great last few years making a tour of NL Central teams. (All except Pittsburgh.)

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        • PoisonedPens

          4 months ago

          The problem is that 40 year old pitchers with a whole lotta miles on the arm don’t tend to get better or less injured.
          If I were a bettor, I’d take the under on Scherzer making 15.5 starts.

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        • Tigers3232

          4 months ago

          @Poisoned And if his arm is done the commitment is over after this season. The starts he does make are likely going to ve viewed as premium games to most fans so they ll have a lot of appeal.

          Just not seeing why people are texting to paint this as some type of egregious over pay.

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        • SF6sparky

          4 months ago

          Yup, fingers crossed. Would’ve been funny/kind of cool to have both of them on the same team, but knew that wasn’t happening. Good luck to both of them….especially JV! Lol

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      • gomer33

        4 months ago

        Alex Cobb got 15mil. 27 starts in 23, 9 last year but overall very durable for his career. They even put some of these things in the articles you are commenting on.

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          But that would actually require taking 5 minutes to read the article before saying it was a massive overpay.

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        • JackStrawb

          4 months ago

          @gomer33 Cobb made only 3 starts last year, 5 if you count the postseason, but the overall point is a good one.

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        • vtadave

          4 months ago

          Padres fans aren’t the brightest

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        • dasit

          4 months ago

          how am i supposed to read the article when easy local girls are out there waiting to be searched?

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        • gomer33

          4 months ago

          They were Scherzers starts the last two years, I only bought up Cobb to show it may not be an overpay.

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      • BennyG1919

        4 months ago

        You are just jealous… what’s the right price then ? 12? Yea 3 mill big freaking whoop they are gonna have a 300 mill payroll

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      • realist101

        4 months ago

        @ Vegas –

        39 games
        9 starts last year, 30 starts in 2023. That includes postseason starts in 2023.

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      • bertod

        4 months ago

        27+9 = 17?

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        • case

          4 months ago

          I watched a youtube video that proved 27 + 9 = 17

          U-S-A U-S-A

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        • gbs42

          4 months ago

          VegasDan was pulling a number out of thin air…or from some dark cavity…

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        • bertod

          4 months ago

          They probably don’t know how to use baseball reference and saw 9 games last year and 8 games for Texas in 2023 and added them together not realizing that he also pitched in 19 games for the Mets in 2023. It conveniently adds them together above but the smart ass remark was more important to send than to fact check first.

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      • JackStrawb

        4 months ago

        @VegasSDfan Yes, it doesn’t get much dumber than this.

        It’s not a question of who also got $15m, it’s how these contracts are usually significantly worse than either upside gambles on converting very good relievers like Clay Holmes and Seth Lugo to starting roles, or deals for much younger players with significant, demonstrated upside like the 2024 Mets 2/27m deal with a player opt out to Manaea, or if you’d rather go in the other direction and you’re GM’ing a team desperate for innings with an ERA under 5 with promising peripherals, finding 3 starters in the Canning tier.

        1/15.5m to Scherzer is better than 1/15m to Verlander, but both deals are obviously bad—low upside for old pitchers with real problems, the worst of all possible worlds.

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        • JackStrawb

          4 months ago

          Btw, the prattle about “there’s no such thing as a bad one year deal” is obviously just that—sign a foolish 1/15m deal every year for three years and you’ve just thrown away a solid regular’s contract, or a shot at Ha-Seong Kim by going to the third year, or a high-risk high-return contract with Seth Lugo…

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          4 months ago

          @Jack

          It’s a futile exercise to compare Max vs. others that are no longer on the board. It’s been well documented that the Jay’s have been interstellar in almost everyone this winter. It’s likely that Max might have been their 10th option on the board. You might wall into a club expecting to leave with a 10, but at 4 am, you gotta look at what’s left on the board and choose between a strong 4 or a jar of Vaseline and Palmela.

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      • avenger65

        4 months ago

        Vegas: Still, Santander and Scherzer are better than what the Jays’ previous outlook was.

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      • bruinskip

        4 months ago

        While SDfans are all too familiar with huge overpays, Scherzer started 36 games over the past two seasons, not 17. In between he had back surgery. From 2022-24 Max posted a 3.16 ERA, identical to his career mark.

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      • highendtheory

        4 months ago

        He made 27 starts in 2023…

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      • thebirds

        4 months ago

        15 million is a bargain. He has half a normal season and this turns out to be a good signing by the Jays. Shame, this would have been a good move for the Cardinals owner. They should have brought him home and in a leadership role for 1-2 years and give the fans something to be excited for. Plus Mac has always wanted to play for STL. St. Louis missed out on yet another great opportunity.

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      • martevious

        4 months ago

        He started just 9 games last year, but had 27 starts in 2023.

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    • NYCityRiddler

      4 months ago

      He’ll be on the IL by May. Ahahahahaha!

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    • towinagain

      4 months ago

      Kudos to the Blue Jays and another L for the Padres.

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      • MacGromit

        4 months ago

        L for Labatt

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      • Longtimecoming

        4 months ago

        Glad SD didn’t invest 15 mil in a guy that is over 40. Those just aren’t sound investments banking on what he once was and what he might if everything goes right, be again 1 more time.

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    • Hawktattoo

      4 months ago

      Rush Golden Ale

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  2. BITA

    4 months ago

    I was holding out hopes the Cardinals would sign him. Oh well. Jays are trying to make a run in 2025 good for them.

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    • murphy8

      4 months ago

      Ummmm, why the Cards, to get their rotation somehow even older? To flip him at the deadline when they r 10 games below?

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      • BITA

        4 months ago

        To sell tickets?

        I promise you people would show up to see him pitch for his hometown.

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      • Tigers3232

        4 months ago

        This os a rare time I’ve got to side with Joel. Cards have always had a strong fanbase and Scherzer is local future HOFer on quite possibly a farewell tour. In a baseball town like STL I think his starts would be a big draw for fans. When Tigers contending was windng down and I was going to fewer games, I eyed games with most appeal. This is one of rare moves I’d say would have been wise for a team in their position.

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    • CubsIn25

      4 months ago

      He went to the better birds.

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      • Canuckleball

        4 months ago

        They’re in Baltimore

        Jays and Cardinals are in somewhat similar circumstances.

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        • CubsIn25

          4 months ago

          You’re thinking of the best birds

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          You mustn’t have seen that meme…

          The one with the Blue Jay, the Oriole, and the Cardinal, they were arguing who was better based on world series trophies and the Cardinal has 11 of those. Albeit the two worst teams to win the World Series in the last 30 years ’06 and ’11, also two of the best teams to not win the World Series in ’04 and ’05

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        • pingston

          4 months ago

          But if you calculate how long the Blue Jays have been in MLB (same as Mariners, since 1977) and apply the calculus on how few teams there were when the Cards won most of their trophies, and how bad the Orioles have been vs how great they have also been and how old that franchise is, and the excellence of the logos of all 3 teams… you get a headache.
          But the Jays have won more World Series since 1990 than Cards or O’s!
          (And just as many as the Dodgers…)

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        • realist101

          4 months ago

          @LaFleur –

          I’ll grant you 2006, when the Cardinals went 83-78 with a losing record after the All-Star Break. And that team was really patched together after Pujols, Rolen, and Chris Carpenter. (Molina was still in his early career, weak-hitting phase.) Worst regular season record of any WS champion. Roster had <2 WAR players in lots of spots.

          The 2011 team, though, was 90-72. Better record than the 2000 Yankees and 2014 Giants. Same record as the 2023 Rangers. champsorchumps.us/records/worst-regular-season-to-…

          And the 2011 Cardinals team was good, especially the very deep batting lineup when everyone was healthy. Pujols had a down year by his standards which still was 147 wRC+. Holliday and Berkman both hit better than Pujols that year. Freese's 123 wRC+ was 5th-best in the lineup (after those other 3 names plus Molina, who was a very productive hitter by this point of his career).

          The 2011 team's main weakness was thin starting pitching after Carpenter. (Wainwright was out all year after TJS.) LaRussa did a great job in the playoffs of having a quick hook with all non-Carpenter starters – back before that was the norm – to limit that weakness in the post-season.

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          Lance Berkman carried the offense for the first half of the season in 2011 he hit quite a few 3 run homeruns in April and May

          If they didn’t trade Rasmus for Octavio Dotel, Corey Patterson, Edwin Jackson, and others idk what would of happened. Dotel was lights out outta the bullpen

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          They also had Lynn, Motte, Salas, and rodriquez… Rhodes, there was no reason not to go to those guys in the bullpen when the starter started to fade. LaRusaa was ahead of the game in many ways. Legendary manager

          Dave Duncan too. Something about a spliter in the early 2000s helped Chuck Finely, Andy Benes, and Jeff Weaver turn in some really good pitching performances

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      • King Floch

        4 months ago

        But not the best birds!

        (The Orioles)

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        • Phree4u

          4 months ago

          Eagles would like a word

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        • King Floch

          4 months ago

          This is a baseball site, bro.

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          They used to be known as browns

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    • Tacoshells

      4 months ago

      Why would you think that ? They’ve openly stated they’re scaling back payroll and trying to shed salary, even putting their starts on the trading block.

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      4 months ago

      I’m guessing either he fully controls his destination in the event of a trade or he got assurances that Vlade is not getting dealt. Probably both.

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    • CKinSTL

      4 months ago

      It would be awesome to see Scherzer pitch a year back home in St. Louis before he retires..

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      • CubsIn25

        4 months ago

        I’d be all for that. It’d give Cubs hitters some extra batting practice.

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Hopes the Cardinals would sign him”…The Cards never seriously considered signing Max Scherzer. He’s not one of the original members of the band they try so hard to bring in or keep together every year.

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    • Champs64

      4 months ago

      Bita, I know that you wanted Max to join the Cardinals, but you do remember what MO said which is that he must get priority #1, #2, and #3 accomplished. We know what those are and we also know that he is not good at multitasking. I wish I felt better about our team but it looks to be a year of frustration.

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      • BITA

        4 months ago

        I think if Arenado could have been dealt it could have happened but clearly that is taking longer than planned.

        I wanted the team to sell this offseason but they have just sat on their hands. I agree this doesn’t look like a good year but 2024 almost turned out good and it didn’t look like a good year either.

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      • LaFleur

        4 months ago

        I feel like alot of people have really wanted to see scherzer pitch in STL except for scherzer and the Cardinals brass who more than likely don’t like scherzers personality with their old world mentality… You know…

        “philosophical differences”

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  3. Mondesi’s Cannon

    4 months ago

    Mad Max! Good for the Jays.

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    • Samuel

      4 months ago

      LOL

      They keep doing exactly what put them into the mess they’ve been in for years. Their Baseball Ops people can’t do anything else. Totally incompetent.

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      • C-Daddy

        4 months ago

        Don’t you ever get tired of posting inane commentary on this site? Your commitment to being wrong all the time is admirable, I guess.

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        • Tigers3232

          4 months ago

          In fairly certain Samuel thrives on being pompous.

          He seems to get pleasure out of claiming others are wrong as I’d he could do better. It’s a one year deal, he’s acting as though TOR has mortgaged their future here.

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  4. Mr. McNasty

    4 months ago

    Signed him right to the Disabled List

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    • TheBoatmen

      4 months ago

      What list?

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      • ATinz

        4 months ago

        Sound it out

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      • yeah, sure!

        4 months ago

        differently abled list

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    • CubsIn25

      4 months ago

      “Pending a physical”

      Whu-ohhh

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  5. clrrogers

    4 months ago

    Yes!! Now sign either Alonso or Bregman.

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    • pando8888

      4 months ago

      Nope, they probably gave up on Alonso!

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      • BennyG1919

        4 months ago

        Ummm no Scherzer signed because he knows they are getting Alonso or Bregman

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        • clrrogers

          4 months ago

          Isn’t Boras the agent for all three of Scherzer, Alonso, and Bregman? Maybe Boras told Scherzer the Jays were getting one of the other two.

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        • stymeedone

          4 months ago

          I’d not be happy if my agent, while negotiating with Toronto on my behalf, pivoted to a different client and got him the deal instead.

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    • Gwynning

      4 months ago

      Get to the choppa! Nowwww!

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    • CubsIn25

      4 months ago

      Yeah, but if you sign Schwarzenegger for one year, you just know he’ll be back

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      • clrrogers

        4 months ago

        Haha! Good one!

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  6. ATinz

    4 months ago

    We’ve heard this one before…….

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    • JaysSinceBirth

      4 months ago

      We have?

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      • ATinz

        4 months ago

        Something about Ohtani being on a plane to Toronto……
        Something about Sasaki contemplating playing in Toronto……
        But you knew that already.

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        • murphy8

          4 months ago

          I’m really hoping your not comparing Shohei Ohtani and Roki Sasaki to Scherzer right now

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        • NickTheDev

          4 months ago

          They claimed to be close to having Yamamoto at one point too!

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        • ATinz

          4 months ago

          Uh, read it again, this time slowly.

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        • gomer33

          4 months ago

          The Jays don’t claim these things.

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        • Phree4u

          4 months ago

          And Suzuki and judge and Soto

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  7. Gobraves88

    4 months ago

    Noooo I wanted my Braves to get him w signing by jays

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  8. pando8888

    4 months ago

    Looks like the Mets are signing Alonso and this is a pivot move.

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    • SomTeaver

      4 months ago

      Maybe, or they were never really in on Alonso, since most rumors came from NY beat writers who normally do not have detailed knowledge of Blue Jays upcoming signings…?

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    • Jaysfansince92

      4 months ago

      There were a lot of rumors that Scherzer wouldn’t sign with them unless they got Alonso or a comparable player. I wouldn’t say this put them out of anything.

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  9. Goolius Boozler

    4 months ago

    In other news, the Yankees have signed Daniel Camarena

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    • Gwynning

      4 months ago

      Heyyyyy, Slamarena!
      (Sing to “Macarena”)

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  10. Aoe3

    4 months ago

    I really like this as a TOR fan. They have excellent medical and pitching staff from how their aging SP have fared last few years. Even if hes passed his prime this is still exciting and will help with pitching depth. Whole country cheering him on! Also Max’s experience and knowledge is invaluable to the team.

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  11. YankeesBleacherCreature

    4 months ago

    Go Jays!

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    • CravenMoorehead

      4 months ago

      Jays fans excited for the chance to see 1 of his 3 or 4 starts at the former “Sky Dome” this season 🙂

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        4 months ago

        I’ll be in Toronto for a few days this summer so definitely going to Rogers to catch a game.

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        • CravenMoorehead

          4 months ago

          I might be up there at some point bc I’ll be temporarily working in the Buffalo area for a few months. The Jays AAA team (the Bisons) play there. I think it’s the biggest AAA stadium if I’m not mistaken. I know Toronto played there during the Covid “era” with all the extra border restrictions.

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  12. bhd360

    4 months ago

    Well, I wish this was in 2016 but hey, I’ll take it!

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    • Ducey

      4 months ago

      We all wish it was 2016

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      • LaFleur

        4 months ago

        Last 8 years really did a number huh?

        I blame covid and those responsible for its handling, but what does it matter.

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  13. wifflemeister

    4 months ago

    Why would Atlanta pay $15 mil for a what is now a fading middle-to-back end starter when they can get at least comparable performance from their young (and cheap) up and comers?

    This was a good pass from AA

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    • Higgins

      4 months ago

      because they paid Morton @ 20M for the same reason for years?

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      • wifflemeister

        4 months ago

        Morton was a much more reliable and durable pitcher these last couple of years than Scherzer has been.

        Plus, he pitched with, you know,…a broke laig!
        That earns you some street cred for sure

        Scherzer brings to mind the phrase, “dead arm.”

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    • stymeedone

      4 months ago

      Why? Ticket sales!

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  14. PTkirk

    4 months ago

    Went from Roki and Soto to Santander and Scherzer lmaooo

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    • JaysSinceBirth

      4 months ago

      You’re an idiot

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      • PTkirk

        4 months ago

        cope

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        • whyhayzee

          4 months ago

          We’re all trying to cope with you being an idiot.

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      • LaFleur

        4 months ago

        Glaze is more like it

        And take a chill pill too

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    • ATinz

      4 months ago

      Careful, there is a sensitive Jays fan in the comment section.

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    • ATinz

      4 months ago

      Told ya!

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    • Moonlight Graham

      4 months ago

      I hate it when my team signs 40-homer guys. Even worse, three-time Cy Young winners with a strong leadership presence.

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      • PTkirk

        4 months ago

        3 time cy young winner with a back made of dust!! exciting!

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        • LaFleur

          4 months ago

          I don’t believe the back was the issue last season? The article states he recovered and pitched then had nerve issues in his hand, not back, Hamstring issues, and a shoulder problem. I’m not a doctor, but a herniated disk is a real issue, and he thought he just “tweaked” his back? Seems like a guy you’d want around perhaps gives to much effort

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      • Phree4u

        4 months ago

        Licncecum might be available, and he’s younger.

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    • MuleorAstroMule

      4 months ago

      As opposed to most other teams who didn’t have a shot at either.

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      • PTkirk

        4 months ago

        Do YOU think they really had a shot at either? haha. like they had a shot at Ohtani? no one wants to go to canada

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        • GB85

          4 months ago

          Yimi Garcia, Max Scherzer, Anthony Santander, and Jeff Hoffman do.

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        • MuleorAstroMule

          4 months ago

          Every year the Jays sign a high-end free agent and usually a couple mid-tier guys. There are teams that every year sign one mediocre starter, wipe their hands, and start the season. And yet the same tired narrative persists.

          Toronto has a payroll around $242M. You don’t get there by not signing players.

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    • Sk8

      4 months ago

      What a letdown.

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  15. baseballbrains

    4 months ago

    Jays are a bat and bullpen arm away from being a serious contender. Good depth get for the rotation as they can look to add a high end starter if needed by the trade deadline. Bregman in my eyes resigns with the Astros but if the Jays could get Alonso that would be huge. the market besides the mets seems pretty slim for him.

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    • BeenThereDoneIt

      4 months ago

      This gives them the bullpen are as well.

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    • GB85

      4 months ago

      Yariel Rodriguez will very likely be moved to the pen after this signing, but I’d still like to see Atkins sign another quality reliever. If Alonso or Bregman sign, that will be the bat they need.

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    • smuzqwpdmx

      4 months ago

      They’re already good health and a few lucky breaks from being a wild card contender. That said, so are most teams.

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  16. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    4 months ago

    Given how seemingly nobody wants to play for them, they’re kind of sort of in rebuild/re-tool mode, etc. I wonder if they had to pay a king’s ransom for Sherzer.

    1 year/$40M or even 1 year/$50M or something truly unprecedented like 2 years/$150M.

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    • Yankee Clipper

      4 months ago

      Or….. he’s a HUGE fan of Canadian Bacon on pizza….

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      • whogg72

        4 months ago

        He voted Dem and decided to move to Canada – for real.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        4 months ago

        who isn’t?

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      • bestone

        4 months ago

        Fyi….you can’t buy “Canadian bacon” in Canada.
        We tariffed that stuff out decades ago.

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      • Phree4u

        4 months ago

        Just say “ham”

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    • baseballbrains

      4 months ago

      1 year 15 mil

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    • Naylor01

      4 months ago

      Try probably $15-16 million.

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  17. BuyBuyMets

    4 months ago

    Should take care of 61 innings.

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    • Simm

      4 months ago

      I don’t think he will pitch that many innings in spring training.

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    • DanielDannyDano

      4 months ago

      If all goes according to plan, 61 regular season innings, and 44 post season innings

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      • Canuckleball

        4 months ago

        44 post season innings… After he gets traded at the deadline, I presume.

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  18. ron_karate

    4 months ago

    Ohh, he’ll make em edgy

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  19. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    4 months ago

    He’s really becoming a journeyman. Good for him finding a team that would oay him 15.5mil at the the age of 40

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  20. cooperhill

    4 months ago

    One blue, one brown, creepy!

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    • NickTheDev

      4 months ago

      Just pick one to look at 😉

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      • WadeBoggsWildRide

        4 months ago

        How!?

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    • Gwynning

      4 months ago

      Sounds exactly like my girlfriend, cooper… except she wears an eyepatch.

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      • DanielDannyDano

        4 months ago

        Careful, she’s probably seeing someone on the side…

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        • Gwynning

          4 months ago

          This guy gets it! Good one Dano lol

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        • Ducey

          4 months ago

          Well, one side possibly

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        • yick04

          4 months ago

          This might be the best joke I’ve heard in years.

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  21. raisinsss

    4 months ago

    This is about 2x what I’d want him on the Mets for.

    Take him.

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    • joebourgeois

      4 months ago

      Mets are already DFAing arms

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    • Phree4u

      4 months ago

      Aren’t the Mets still paying him?

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      • raisinsss

        4 months ago

        No this comment/article is about Max Scherzer not Bobby Bonilla.

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      • KamKid

        4 months ago

        I don’t think so, but the Nationals are.

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        • bruinskip

          4 months ago

          The fifth-highest paid 2024 Reds player was Ken Griffey Jr.

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  22. YankeesBleacherCreature

    4 months ago

    @TrillionaireTeamOperator If the Jays had pursued Soto, signed Santander and Max, and not traded Vladdy, it’s not a retool.

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    • baseballbrains

      4 months ago

      totally agree they can definitely compete this year after a down year from bichette and vlad in a contract year

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  23. Clofreesz

    4 months ago

    Hope he has one more great season before he retires.

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    • Armaments216

      4 months ago

      So you’re already writing off 2025, and hoping he helps the Dodgers to a 3-peat in 2026?

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  24. Golfsucks

    4 months ago

    There has to be something brewing in TO.
    I can’t see how he would sign a 1 year deal up there unless he knows that they are in on someone else.
    This is a great move by Toronto!

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  25. ocladfan

    4 months ago

    Congrats jays your money don’t jiggle, jiggle, it folds

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  26. ImYourHuckleberry

    4 months ago

    Well, if he’s healthy…that’ll be the motto of this entire signing.

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  27. Tacoshells

    4 months ago

    Lol just had to one up Verlander with an extra 500,000

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    • Rothbard

      4 months ago

      I wonder how much that rivalry led Max to leave the Tigers. Illitch was willing to pay anything to keep him.

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      • stymeedone

        4 months ago

        Actually, Max acted insulted at Mr. I for his offer and it broke off talks. JV had done much more at that point, so pay Max more than JV would.have been a problem.

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    • Phree4u

      4 months ago

      Canadian tax upcharge

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    • johnrealtime

      4 months ago

      I believe it is less a case of Max’s pride demanding that he make more than Verlander, and moreso is likely his agent using the precedent of the comparable JV when negotiating Scherzer’s deal

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  28. Motown is My Town

    4 months ago

    Over/under on # of inning he pitches… I’m setting it at 105…anyone else!

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    • Rothbard

      4 months ago

      I’d set it at 65 innings.

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    • jimmertee

      4 months ago

      If he gets to the Allstar break healthy, it will be a miracle.

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    • bcjd

      4 months ago

      Ten starts, 60 innings, 4.80 ERA, on the IL by July.

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    • Phree4u

      4 months ago

      Under

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  29. die defunctorum

    4 months ago

    De plane! De plane!

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  30. Deckard

    4 months ago

    Looking ahead to the trade deadline, which contender will go after him?

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    • jdgoat

      4 months ago

      Now I’m not going to say they’re for sure making the playoffs, but this same Jays team made the playoffs two years ago despite being unable to hit. Last year they had an awful lot more go wrong than right. I wouldn’t write them off just yet, especially in a very weak AL.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        4 months ago

        Jays were randomly 16-3 vs the Red Sox that year.

        While I agree with you, I don’t think it’s out of the question to compete but the Red Sox and Orioles are both improved, Yankees are a good team which look to be atleast more well rounded to handle the Soto loss, rays everyone will write off and then end up being a good team.

        Lots could go right for the jays and we could see them put together a 90 win season, could also have a few injuries with no depth and finish in last.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          Even with all these moves and a resurgent Bichette, I don’t see them improving +16 wins from last year. The ALE is too stacked and Jays haven’t done enough I see them more around 80-85 win team.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 months ago

          They sold at the deadline, so I don’t think their win total last year is the be all.

          Bichette, Gausman and Kirk need to be at their best for the jays to stand a chance

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          Who did they move that would have been an impact? Im generally curious I don’t remember any big pitchers or hitters moved IIRC but I could be wrong ?

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 months ago

          They traded like 8 roster players but probably most impactful was Kikuchi, Jansen and Garcia.

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    • bcjd

      4 months ago

      None. He’s going to perform like a #5 starter, and he’ll spend most of the year on the IL. Ten starts, sixty innings, 4.80 ERA, on the IL by July.

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  31. 10centBeerNight

    4 months ago

    Good for Jays. Hope he can stay mostly healthy

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  32. Acoss1331

    4 months ago

    That’s not bad considering the price tag. Hopefully he gives the Blue Jays at least 25 starts of Mad Max baseball!

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  33. TheBoatmen

    4 months ago

    Prerequisite to Alonso agreeing and Vlad resigning.

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  34. doss44

    4 months ago

    Mets resign Polar Bear confirmed. Thank you Toronto.

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  35. Best Screenname Ever

    4 months ago

    This is very good news for their franchise. It has to be discouraging for their fans to spend the offseason watching player after player turn their nose up at playing in Canada. I doubt they’ll get much more out of Max than the Rangers did last year, and they only got 40 innings or so of mediocre, but people in Canada won’t know that and what they’ll think is they’re getting a big name star. So it will be exciting for them at first, anyway.

    I predicted they would get Bregman too, as he is clearly over the hill and no one else I thought would give him the big payday he’s seeking, but the reports say Houston is still offering him the same contract, so it looks like he won’t have to go to Toronto.

    Santander and Scherzer aren’t going to move the needle for them, but it’s better than coming up completely empty I guess. Congrats!

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 months ago

      This takes the top pretentious post of the day.

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    • Ducey

      4 months ago

      “but people in Canada won’t know that”

      We are not getting our news by dogsled or stagecoach up here.

      Look! I have access to the internet and have all the same info as you!

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      • Phree4u

        4 months ago

        You Canadians flood the USA this time of year, so that explains it.

        Your relatives back in Maple country are waiting for their telegraph’s though.

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    • pingston

      4 months ago

      Sort of thanks, I guess.
      The Jays have added Hoffman, Garcia, Santander. Gimenez and Scherzer, have Manoah coming back from surgery mid-summer, Bo coming back after a winter to recover from 2024 injuries, and a bunch of the Buffalo Boys with more strength and experience (that’s the crossed fingers stuff).
      It’s been a good off-season. Alonso would blow it out of the water, and given that Cohen massively over-spent on Soto and with no deferrals that team is $$ crippled in the next few years and taking a big hit in draft losses… from luxury penalties, there’s a good chance Alonso doesn’t end up with the Mets.
      Be interesting to see today what will happen over next month. Alonso would be super-appreciated by Toronto fans.

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    • Acoss1331

      4 months ago

      Beyond America’s borders, does not live a lesser people. Travelling really does enlighten people…

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    • stymeedone

      4 months ago

      Regardless of his future performance, Max Scherzer is a big name star. If Nolan Ryan signed to pitch this year, he may not do well, but he would still be a big name star. I’d buy a ticket.

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  36. Niekro floater

    4 months ago

    Most teams coulda used Scherzer. Not Cy Young #s anymore but he can pitch. Can he stay healthy ? Love his competitiveness, mad bulldog out there. Was hoping Bmore would sign em.

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  37. pete toms

    4 months ago

    I’m setting the over/under for IP at 89.2

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      4 months ago

      56 innings for the Blue eye and 78 for the brown one.

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    • bcjd

      4 months ago

      I predict ten starts, 60 innings, 4.80 ERA.

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  38. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    4 months ago

    Good place for washed up Mad Max.

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  39. jdgoat

    4 months ago

    Just the guy I wanted to fill out the rotation. Now bring in Alonso (or Bregman although that one will be too long) and this offseason has been pretty good despite missing out on the elite players.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      4 months ago

      Alonso makes sense, also gives them a plan b for vladdys departure

      Unsure what money they have left tho

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      • jaysfansince1977

        4 months ago

        Hey chops, pretty sure they have money they are only what the 3rd or 4th richest owners in the game!!!

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 months ago

          That’s not how corporations are run.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 months ago

      I didn’t see them miss out on anyone.

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  40. SHARKmapiro

    4 months ago

    I guess Shapiro and Atkins aren’t so bad after all. Jays looking better every week that goes by. Now, get the Vlad extension done and we’re laughing.

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  41. 3768902

    4 months ago

    I knew the jays were connected to the dry husk of max scherzer. Kudos for getting this one across the finish line

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  42. DarrenDreifortsContract

    4 months ago

    What a waste.

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  43. Citizen1

    4 months ago

    Sherzer should do what every former Cy Young winner has done and become a closer

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    • Sk8

      4 months ago

      Green/Garcia in the 7th, Hoffman in the 8th and Scherzer in the 9th would be pretty sick.

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  44. Salzilla

    4 months ago

    Two possibly risky signings with him and Hoffman. But if healthy it’s pretty good.

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  45. King Floch

    4 months ago

    Decent enough gamble for Toronto, I guess.

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  46. bcjd

    4 months ago

    I predict about 60 innings of 4.80 ERA. I look forward to seeing hat at Fenway. Welcome to the AL East, Max!

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  47. Treylum

    4 months ago

    Now go get Alonso! 2021 was the trailer. 2022 was a lacklustre movie. 2023 was a flop of a sequel. 2024 was a box office disaster.

    2025 is the finale!

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  48. CTS4

    4 months ago

    Good going Max, You are the next typical shapiro stop gap signing…!! Stay healthy …

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  49. Sk8

    4 months ago

    This will end up exactly the same way when the Jays acquired Phil Niekro.

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    • whyhayzee

      4 months ago

      Phil Niekro was 83 when they got him.

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  50. SkenesandSlopes

    4 months ago

    10 years late.

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  51. jimmertee

    4 months ago

    As someone previously mentioned, to go from Soto to Santander and Sasaki to a 40 yr old Scherzer….is not a good thing.

    I applaud the Jays effort. If Scherzer makes the Allstar break healthy with 10-12 starts this signing is a win.

    Look at what then Yankees did when they lost out on Soto compared to what the Jays did. Sorry Jays fans, as usual the BlueJays are not getting out of the American League to the playoffs promised land in 2025.

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    • GB85

      4 months ago

      Thanks for the crystal ball – we might as well just give the division to the Yankees and the WS trophy to the Dodgers now and save everyone the trouble of playing any games, right?

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      • YourDreamGM

        4 months ago

        Always the wild card

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    • Jaysfansince92

      4 months ago

      As usual? In recent seasons they’ve made the playoffs more often than they haven’t.

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      • deok40

        4 months ago

        he is an absolute fool. His posts are always complete nonsense. Scouteyes LOL

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  52. Dash 2

    4 months ago

    Brilliant career, but over 15 million for a guy whose best days are behind him?
    Where else can you get paid like that when you can no longer get the job done?

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    • Higgins

      4 months ago

      ask Verlander, Morton, or Cobb. or even better ask DeGrom and Strasburg

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      • Jbigz12

        4 months ago

        Chuck takes the mound every 5 days. I have no confidence in the other 3 to do that with regularity.

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  53. nanokelvin

    4 months ago

    Get him quick before the tariffs!

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  54. sovietcanuckistanian

    4 months ago

    like this is a good move and all, but at the same time, I don’t feel this moves the needle as much as the front office would have you believe. that said, he’s done well and generally (obviously not always) wins (contributes to success) wherever he goes, so hopefully some of his intangibles/attitude can rub off on the team – for the better.

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  55. snowyphile1

    4 months ago

    Best to pass on Boras’ clients.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 months ago

      Early on sure. But the ones who go from asking 300 million and have to settle for under 100 aren’t too shabby.

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  56. DugoutJester

    4 months ago

    He must have looked really good at that workout for that pay day…

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  57. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 months ago

    Hopefully he pitches when the visit Anaheim so I can take my son.

    He’s not the same Max I saw with Detroit years ago, but one day when he’s getting inducted into Cooperstown I’ll be able to remind my son we saw him pitch with Toronto.

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  58. Non Roster Invitee

    4 months ago

    Who would you rather have? Scherzer or Verlander?

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    • CGG12

      4 months ago

      I’d rather have Verlander, honestly.

      Reply
      • GB85

        4 months ago

        Verlander is always at risk to have a motor-boating accident…

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      • Jaysfansince92

        4 months ago

        A few years ago I would have agreed with you. Last year was an utter disaster for Verlander though. An era of 5.48 at his age is not very encouraging. It kind of looks like he’s done.

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  59. Sean P

    4 months ago

    lol.

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  60. christaylormvp

    4 months ago

    THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN!!!! THE ORIOLES NEVER HAD A CHANCE!!!!

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    • Whyme

      4 months ago

      Lol O’s could have offered him that. Plus they have a deep farm to trade for someone younger and better

      Reply
      • bullred

        4 months ago

        I have seen a couple of rankings where Baltimore is 20th (Law) and 24th (BR) overall. Are they still a strong farm?

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      • Jbigz12

        4 months ago

        O’s obviously preferred Morton. Scherzer probably wasn’t a good fit with the wall moving in. He might be a backend starter at this point but I understand the temptation of thinking you might get some Scherzer magic.

        We’ll see which old pitcher puts up the best numbers. Could be the last deal for Scherzer, Morton, & Verlander

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        • christaylormvp

          4 months ago

          @jbigz

          COULD HAVE DEFERRED SOME MONEY AND SIGNED WITH THE TWINS BUT RHE SYSTEMNIS SO BROKEN THE ROYALS NEVER HAD A CHANCE.

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  61. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    4 months ago

    Cue the nay-sayers who will say he is no good or that this is an “overpay”.. The bottom line is that he is still one of the best pitchers in the game and the BlueJays rotation will be better for his inclusion.
    After so many recent disappointments, I think the fans deserve something to get excited about. Good luck to them and Max.

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  62. Old York

    4 months ago

    Not sure how adding even more pitching is going to fix the Jays lack of offense.

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    • larkraxm

      4 months ago

      Not sure either, but in theory a defensive run saved is a run earned. In, other words, if you can limit your opponents’ ability to score, then your offense will need to score less runs per game to win. In theory communism works!

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    • Jaysfansince92

      4 months ago

      They needed a fifth starter. Even if you add more offense if you’re getting smoked every fifth game with very little chance of winning it makes it very hard to have a winning season.

      This doesn’t preclude them from adding another bat anyways. All reports have been that they still have enough money to bring in another impact player on offense.

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  63. Thurman8er

    4 months ago

    Is that 4 teams now that are paying Max?

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  64. coloredpaper

    4 months ago

    I mean, you kinda hope you catch lightning in a bottle and you can get a vintage season from him.

    In any case, still think the offence needs more help. Santander alone isn’t gonna fix it (and yes, they signed Gimenez, I know.)

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  65. Andujar

    4 months ago

    He picked the right time to move out of the US.

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  66. Degaz

    4 months ago

    Dodgers didn’t want him…

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  67. BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

    4 months ago

    Amazing signing. Especially with their starting depth and Manoah around the corner.

    And based on his comps there was no over pay required to come to TO

    He’s a great guy to root for as well.

    Still need 2 mlb bats and a lefty in the pen.

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  68. TacomaMike23

    4 months ago

    Mariners suck

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  69. longines64

    4 months ago

    Funny, as great as he’s been, he’s got a lot of stops on his baseball card.

    Reply
    • bullred

      4 months ago

      He would get in the HOF regardless but its probably a good idea to go to a few towns to pad your chances of getting in for the borderline players. HOF voting is a popularity contest after all.

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  70. Bluejaysjunkie

    4 months ago

    Resign Vladdy

    Bo if you can get him

    Bregman if it makes sense.

    Avoid the polar bear

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  71. zuffahd

    4 months ago

    old and washed up, we need pete alonso sign him and i ll start to believe.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 months ago

      I wouldn’t wish Pete on anyone.

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  72. BurnerK

    4 months ago

    Why do I feel like there’s a Phillies trade here on the Horizon for a position player.

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  73. casualfan

    4 months ago

    I think it’s a great signing. HOF players have a lot of wiggle room. If you get 140IP out of him even at just reasonably decent for Scherzer standards; that’s a good starter. I love the can do attitude of this guy. He’s even more insanely competitive then your typical professional athlete; I think he’ll go ok and next year then someone will be foolish enough to offer him 2 years, THEN the wheels will fall off.

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    • bullred

      4 months ago

      Yeah I wouldn’t want to bet against this guy, he is too competitive. He will find a way to get you out with his soft stuff.

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  74. vaderzim

    4 months ago

    I guess this is where he begins his Roger Clemens arc.

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    • Acoss1331

      4 months ago

      When Roger went to Toronto, he put up some of the best numbers of his career, so…

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        4 months ago

        Back to back Cy’s. Unsure where vaderzim was going with this

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        • smuzqwpdmx

          4 months ago

          I presume the comment is about age and having a sudden career renaissance in your 40s, not team. Clemens was only a bit above average from age 36 to 40 (yeah there was a Cy Young in there but that was when wins and losses got you the award), and then he found some PEDs that made him elite from age 41 to 43.

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  75. Spaced-Cowboy

    4 months ago

    Someone remind me how old Verlander was in 2022?

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  76. smuzqwpdmx

    4 months ago

    Despite all the complaints I have about Shapiro failing to develop a farm system or coherent plan, he has done a great job at talking Rogers into opening their wallets. Getting them to increase the payroll so much after such a bad season is astounding.

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    • Murphy NFLD

      4 months ago

      They just did a massive Reno of the building over 2 seasons plus a massive ST facility over haul the year before. As a TO fan a smart ownership group or one not in this situation would see the writing on the wall and sell everything off to jump start a rebuild and shorten it by 2-4 years. They are just trying to recoup some of the renovation money and being owned by Canada’s biggest TV company they save massive on tv rights in some shape or form

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        4 months ago

        I’m not sure I follow Murphy, are you suggesting they are only spending because of the Renos?

        The Renos are part of the spending, so to smuz’s point, Shapiro has for pretty much the first time, for Rogers to spend both on the field and off the field like a big market club.

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        • smuzqwpdmx

          4 months ago

          If I were Rogers, I’d figure a renovated stadium with a significantly reduced seating capacity would buy me a few years of enough people coming to enjoy the building’s new social spaces with a bad team during a rebuild. But Shapiro has convinced them to go all-in. As a Jays fan, I just hope it actually works instead of blowing up in their faces with another last place finish and dismal TV ratings.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          There certainly is some cause for concern. If things go poorly, they may be less inclined to open their wallet in the future. Hopefully that’s not the case, but it wouldn’t be the first time an owner has tightened the purse strings after expensive additions have gone south.

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  77. Dumpster Divin Theo

    4 months ago

    If he had signed w Frisco he’d be a one eyed Giant

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  78. EQUINEBOSS

    4 months ago

    Saint Louis was, for the 2nd time in his career, offered a hometown discount and the Cardinals’ FO gave a hard pass.
    12-15 home starts, packing the house above avg attedance on a down year, would have paid his salary.
    A superior veteran could have added experience to the young pitching staff and energized the fan base.
    John Mozeliak screws it up big time going out the door. Good riddance.

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  79. YourDreamGM

    4 months ago

    Has risk but has reward. For Toronto I like it. They don’t scream for sure playoffs to me so gotta roll the dice.

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  80. Stallionduck

    4 months ago

    One thing: Yariel Rodriguez was not a closer in the NPB (as Raidel Martinez was an even more dominant reliever as a closer than Rodriguez was in a setup role)

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  81. SFBay314

    4 months ago

    Oh…Canada.

    What are you thinking?

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    • SFBay314

      4 months ago

      Funny I knew your comment was coming before you wrote it.

      It may be crazy to think but it is possible to be a fan of a team and disagree with said team’s management.

      It’s pretty much the motivating factor for all discussion here.

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      • Jaysfansince92

        4 months ago

        Of course you knew the comment was coming. You’re the one that made it. You are aware you are replying to your own comment, right?

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  82. CrikesAlready

    4 months ago

    The Padres and AJ Preller passed on Max because of his injury issues… He’s not injured enough. A good case of hip arthritis or vision problems would have been a good start.

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  83. kodion

    4 months ago

    My first thought was that the Jays are not good enough for this signing to matter much. Reminiscent of the pick-ups of Dave Stewart/Jack Morris back in the day …but without the same level of competitive optimism.
    Load management will be a necessity and it seems likely he will have anxiety/workload issues late-season.
    This has all the earmarks of desperation from the management team, not competitive-team building.
    The only significant milestone that seems reachable is Top 10 all-time in Strikeouts. With 130 more, he could get to 8th, depending on what Verlander does, so he doesn’t even have a lot of “hidden heritage” value that will sell tickets.
    He certainly doesn’t have the upside of a Nolan Ryan (Happy Birthday!! 78 today!) who added 1100+ SO after he turned 40

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  84. friesTO

    4 months ago

    Pretty good, maybe Bassitt can help him learn more pitches too, they both will have a lot to talk about. Just add Bregman and extend Vladdy and we might survive AL East

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  85. sergefunction

    4 months ago

    Interested to see how the Detroit rush to sign Alex Cobb (who was self-admittedly on the verge of retiring!) plays out vs other oldsters signing for essentially the same price.

    What did Scott Harris know or fail to know?

    One consideration – slapping that Canadian tariff on Max might be a game changer for the Jays, and not in a good way.

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  86. Blue Baron

    4 months ago

    Max is developing an impressive list of teams he’s played for with Toronto being no. 6.

    Will he make it into Bartolo Colon/Mike Morgan/Todd Zeile territory?

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  87. John Dan

    4 months ago

    I do not personally believe Max will make much of a difference on the field for Toronto at this point in his career, even if he steps onto it more than a few times before hitting the IL. You never know though, maybe he stays healthy. He will though make a very large difference in the Jays clubhouse by providing some actual leadership and maturity to a team of juveniles that has very little of either. I can’t imagine Max would stay silent long watching Vlad jr or Bo dance moves in the dugout after a meaningless home run while their team is down by 10 runs.

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  88. Greybelt

    4 months ago

    Not good in the clubhouse any more, but he is a very competent at explaining why he loses games in great technical detail. The man was bad for the Mets in multiple ways.

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  89. Goose

    4 months ago

    In today’s money that is a good, low risk move. He has shown he has something in the tank it is a question of how long can he stay on the field.

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  90. ❤️ MuteButton

    4 months ago

    With this signing, could it be that the resources and the interest in Bregman is shrinking? I think Detroit is gonna get him, and Bregman will hit a lot of soft flyball outs.

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  91. CTS4

    4 months ago

    This 1yr. stop gap signing by the Lousy GM shapiro ,barely moves the needle…hello last place in the AL East…..

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  92. Windowpane

    4 months ago

    The team that can’t shoot straight. $96 million for a glove-first second baseman, $11 million for a can’t hit outfielder, and $15 million for a washed up pitcher who will be on the IL by June. Keith Law rates their farm system as bottom tier. Shapiro and company have no plan.

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    • Jaysfansince92

      4 months ago

      Last year was the first time in his career that Scherzer has spent significant time on the IL. Despite his age acting like it’s a sure thing he’ll be on the IL is kind of ridiculous.

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      • Windowpane

        4 months ago

        foxsports.com/mlb/max-scherzer-player-injuries

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          I said significant time. Before last season the lowest amount of starts he made in a year was 23. He’s hardly injury prone.

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        • Windowpane

          4 months ago

          Look at the pattern, and he’s a year older. Sometimes you have to smell the coffee.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          Verlander was much more injury prone than Scherzer and despite having multiple lost seasons in his mid to late 30s still managed to come back and pitch very well at the same age Scherzer will be next year (13-8 with a 3.22 ERA).

          These guys are built different and counting them out before the season has even began is the kind of thing that can easily leave you looking foolish after the fact.

          Could it happen? Sure, but I wouldn’t bet against him.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          Scherzer also mentioned that missing spring training had him a bit out of sorts last year (look what that did to Montgomery). This year he is starting the season out healthy and will have a full spring training.

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        • Windowpane

          4 months ago

          Your homerism is clouding your judgment.

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        • Windowpane

          4 months ago

          He’s been on IL every season for the last 5 years. You’re whistling past the graveyard.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          Only once though did he miss more than 8 starts in a season. If the Jays get 23 starts out of him, the contract will easily be worth it. They don’t need him to make 32 starts.

          There have been plenty of players with much worse injuries than him that came back to have healthy seasons (hell the corpse of KK got into around 100 games in 2023 and he’d been missing most of the season each year for almost a decade). Acting like there’s no chance of that happening for a player that has only missed more than 8-9 starts once in his entire career is a position that will lead to you before ng wrong more often than not.

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  93. Digdugler

    4 months ago

    As a Jays fan, I dont think most of us expect the Jays to make the playoffs this year and the future also doesnt look great. However, its a 1 year deal so there is no risk and it makes this year more fun. No sweat off my back, not my money and I’d rather them not add other long term deals so the new regime has a somewhat fresh slate. The team is a mess but this deal is fine. Even if he only makes 5 starts it doesnt really change anything.

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    • PaulQuebec

      4 months ago

      And he is a good trade chip if he pitches well. It will increase the sale of the season ticket but I don’t think he will increase the number of wins. Being a Expos-Nats fans, I love Max, but…. he has milleage.

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      • Digdugler

        4 months ago

        Agreed, but as I said, most fans know the Jays arent making the playoffs and its only a 1 year deal so there is no real risk. If all breaks right and everyone is healthy and Vlad and Bo both have MVP years in their contract year, maybe the Jays sneak into a wildcard. But the most likely case is they are out of it by the deadline anyways, so Max provides a few ticket sales, some fun and maybe if healthy a trade chip at the deadline.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          4 months ago

          I’m not so sure. Their bullpen was outlier bad last year and cost them a ton of games. With that fixed and Santander in the fold, with possibly another bat on the way I think they have a pretty good shot at contention.

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  94. Viveleempireevil

    4 months ago

    The Jays signing Mad Max after striking out on nearly everyone else (except the powerful and dynamic Santander) is the MLB equivalent of having a baby and having to tie a pork chop around his neck to get the dog to play with him.

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  95. SonnySteele

    4 months ago

    I’ll be surprised if the Jays get 100 innings out of Max.

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    • Old York

      4 months ago

      @SonnySteele

      Max is going 500 innings.

      56 starts going 9 innings each.

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  96. TB Sox NY

    4 months ago

    I bet there will be people who go to watch Scherzer pitch because he is a possible Hall of Famer.People like to watch people like that.I saw him play.Watch Puljos at the end of his career was pretty tough to watch but you could say you watched him play.To some people that is a good cost to pay.

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  97. Wellthisshouldbeinteresting

    4 months ago

    He’ll be great for the 3 starts he makes and then has to be shelved the remainder of the season.

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    • friesTO

      4 months ago

      I think you spelled Manoah wrong

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  98. Warren Spahn

    4 months ago

    15 mil for a washed-up one-time star is an overpay.

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  99. Indianfan

    4 months ago

    So Scherzer steals another $15.5 million. Some of these teams/GMs apparently have more money than brains.

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  100. friesTO

    4 months ago

    Having a friend on the team (Bassitt) will help him adjust more easily and hopefully keep it fun. This is a 1 year for Scherzer but Bassitt is also coming to the end of his own 3 year contract this year as well I think? So it’ll be interesting if there’s a selloff end of year, or if these two keep performing well, or if we get new management to consider their services. Chris was a bit more vocal about professionalism on the team so adding Max will increase that attitude on the team too

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  101. sax332n86

    4 months ago

    This is twice now that Scherzer has made puzzling comments upon signing with a mediocre team. He intimated that he was leaving the Dodgers for the Mets in 2021 “because he wanted to win a championship’, and now he makes this strange comment about getting a third world championship with a going-nowhere-fast Blue Jays team, which happens to be the worst club in the division.

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