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Mets Not Planning To Add A Starter

By Steve Adams | February 21, 2025 at 10:10am CDT

The Mets’ rotation suffered a blow barely a week into camp when free agent acquisition Frankie Montas felt discomfort in his first bullpen session of camp. After a healthy offseason, Montas was diagnosed with a lat strain that has prompted the Mets to shut him down from throwing entirely. The team announced a no-throw period of six to eight weeks. Montas is taking a more optimistic tack, suggesting it’ll be four to six weeks. Regardless, he won’t throw at all for the majority of spring training, at which point he’ll need to build up from scratch. An absence extending into at least mid-May seems likely.

Even with that loss and a handful of notable starters still on the market, the Mets aren’t planning to add another arm to their rotation, Will Sammon of The Athletic reports. While further injuries could of course change that thinking, for now the Mets plan to rely on their in-house depth while weathering their first injury of note. Additionally, the previously planned six-man rotation will now likely drop to five, manager Carlos Mendoza tells Joel Sherman of the New York Post.

Locks for the Opening Day rotation, health permitting, include Kodai Senga, Sean Manaea, David Peterson and reliever-turned-starter Clay Holmes. Righties Tylor Megill, Griffin Canning and Paul Blackburn will vie for the fifth spot. Megill has a minor league option remaining. Canning and Blackburn do not, and both are earning more than $4MM this season, so it’s unlikely they’d be cut loose. (That’s especially true of Canning, who signed as a free agent over the winter.) Top prospect Brandon Sproat will be in the running at some point, but he still has only 116 1/3 professional innings under his belt, with only 28 2/3 of those coming in Triple-A.

Sammon’s report dovetails with recent suggestions that the Mets aren’t likely to pursue a reunion with Jose Quintana, despite the veteran left-hander’s openness to returning to Queens. Quintana declined an offer worth more than $5.25MM from the Pirates before Pittsburgh agreed to terms with fellow left-handed veteran Andrew Heaney. While it’s not clear that decision was made in hopes of the Mets coming through with an offer of their own, it does appear to shut the door on opportunities for Quintana with either club. Beyond Quintana, veterans like Kyle Gibson, Lance Lynn and Spencer Turnbull are all still seeking homes.

For the Mets, any additions to the major league roster will be doubly cost prohibitive. They’re again a CBT payor in the top penalty tier, meaning any subsequent additions come with a 110% luxury tax. Signing Quintana in the $5-6MM range, for instance, would cost the team $10.5MM to $12.6MM. The Mets are already running a $331MM cash payroll, per RosterResource, which comes with nearly $67MM worth of luxury taxes.

In essence, the Mets are already paying close to $400MM total for the current roster. On the one hand, fans could argue “what’s another $10-12MM at that point?” On the other, even the sport’s wealthiest owner, Steve Cohen, surely has his limits. Plus, if things go according to plan in 2025, the Mets will be deadline buyers, presumably adding even further to that massive financial outlay. Time will tell whether the rest of the rotation group holds up through the remainder of camp — injuries abound in spring training every year — but for now, Mets fans shouldn’t hold out hope for a Quintana reunion or any other guaranteed deal to deepen the starting staff.

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  1. davidk1979

    4 months ago

    Good I like Megill

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    • Big whiffa

      4 months ago

      Mets haven’t been concerned about adding another starter all offseason. Why start now ?

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      • Buckner

        4 months ago

        “…Not Planning To Add A Starter.”

        David Robertson signing possible?
        Everyone in the mix moves up one step.

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      • Flyby

        4 months ago

        Manaea Holmes Canning and Montas would disagree.

        also considering their first FA signing was a starting pitcher would also disagree.. If you would have said quality starters outside of Manaea i would agree

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      Megill’s the only one with an option. Canning and Blackburn would both have to literally detonate on Spring Training mounds for Megill to begin the year in the rotation.

      The Mets FO is going to throw Megill between Queens and Syracuse like a Duncan Entern-a-Light competition Yo-Yo from 1972.

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    • icantstandyous

      4 months ago

      This is the actual pitching staff built for this team which is supposed to be a contender. A team with an avg era of 4.5 and a whip of 1.3. Good on you mate. The genius boy is going to crash an burn. Bring in a real GM and head of baseball OPS. Ben Zauzmer and pretty boy Stearns need to go!

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  2. PiazzaParty

    4 months ago

    This comments section will be level headed

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    • Bivouac-Sal

      4 months ago

      hahaha

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  3. crise

    4 months ago

    This week. The Mets are not adding a starter *now*. If needs arise I’m sure Steve will find a way.

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    • KennyF’nPowers

      4 months ago

      I’d rather see Sproat be up in Queens even though he only threw 116 innings last year. AAA is a killer of young developing pitcher with the ABS system. It forces these young pitchers to be pinpoint accurate where in the Majors if you have a good framing C you’ll get a much wider strike zone and not need to be pinpoint accurate.

      His age and abilities are ready for the Majors. He can start out being a 2 Inning RP (he started out as a RP at U of F) guy to keep his Innings low. Guys like Holmes who will be on an innings count or Senga who will throw less innings coming back from injury we will need a Sproat to come in after they depart in the 5th 6th and 7th innings. Figuring Megill is the 5th Starter until Montas comes back I still like Sproat as an option more than Canning and Blackburn for long Relief.

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      • JackStrawb

        4 months ago

        There’s no need to keep Sproats innings low. You can’t start him in the majors in April and expect him to be useful all the way into the postseason. If he’s plugged into the rotation now, pitch him normally, then wind him down when Montas comes back or go to a 6-man rotation that will leave Sproat done for the year well before the postseason.

        Given Sproat’s disastrous AAA experience last year, better to use Megill as Montas’s replacement (or Blackburn or Canning given Megill still has options) and if Sproat masters AAA, bring him up in mid-May or later.

        —-When another injury hits and the Mets are scraping by with 1/2 their rotation made up of Blackburn, Canning, and Megill, they’re going to regret not having added a starter now in FA.

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        • unglar

          4 months ago

          @jackstrawb and KennyFnP

          Sproat has 116 innings LIFETIME, not last year. He has 30 innings at AAA and there is no need to rush the development when they already stockpiled depth

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        • geofft

          4 months ago

          FYI: While I agree that calling him up right now would be too soon, its worth noting that last year as his first year. So last year IS his lifetime.

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      • icantstandyous

        4 months ago

        I got news for you. Sproat couldn’t pitch in triple A. Stop falling for the propaganda. Nothing has changed since Wilson era

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        • PiazzaParty

          4 months ago

          Which Wilson? Mookie?

          Sproat went from high A to AAA in a season. That’s an accomplishment.

          You’re belittling a 24 y/o who hits 101 after his first 25 innings in AAA … which has a different ball and strike zone ….

          When you were Johnny Utah you had more patience than you do today, now you’re just bitter.

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  4. Mets Era Thumping Soto

    4 months ago

    When do teams trade for someone because a player is out for a month? Not sure why this was even a thought. They already planned for it with depth moves.

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    • Flyby

      4 months ago

      Because lat strains are iffy and if he is shutdown completely for 8 weeks that doesnt include ramp up time and needs to get into game shape so at minimum you are looking on a good timeline for beginning of may but im willing to bet mid may or maybe as far as mid june so really maybe 2 and a half months of the season.

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  5. User 3544663696

    4 months ago

    Just dumb. They have the prospects to steal Cease from the Padres but are too scared. Sporat and Williams gets a deal close. It makes sense

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    • ReyDay

      4 months ago

      I’d rather wait till the deadline, trading away your top 2 prospects for 1 year of Cease doesn’t seem like a good move currently.

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      • Idosteroids

        4 months ago

        I don’t understand that argument of waiting till the deadline His value won’t change that much between now and the deadline. Takes the pressure off of everyone else. Top spot is locked down and pushes everyone else down a spot. makes the 4/5 spots way more competitive, which is a huge plus.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          Yes it will as opposed to both guys now 1 of them will suffice at deadline especially if padres are out. Also it takes into account if a team isn’t in it by deadline you wasted all that talent for a guy leaving in FA. You only need the ace for playoffs mainly if you have depth for the season. So many advantages to wait and see how the season plays out.

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        • Big whiffa

          4 months ago

          Well, If the Braves and Phillies are 10’games up on you come mid July, prob be glad you held onto your prospects !

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        • mlb fan

          4 months ago

          “I don’t understand that..waiting till the deadline”….Plain & simple, waiting until the deadline gives a team more time to gather data, assess and make a more rational decision on whether a move must be made. I agree with Stearns/Cohen on this and I like the Mets direction.

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        • John Blaze

          4 months ago

          The mets rotation will be fine. Trading away prospects in April would be a panic move. And especially not for a rental.

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      • horaceallen

        4 months ago

        Right, because trading them for half a season is better.

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        • mlb fan

          4 months ago

          “Half a season is better”…Waiting until the deadline gives a team more time to assess and decide whether a COSTLY(and potentially franchise altering)move is really needed.

          Of course, a team has the option to just do a knee-jerk reaction and trade their best prospects in a trade that will no longer be necessary 6 weeks later.

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        • Flyby

          4 months ago

          Who knows maybe sproat actually comes up in that half season and is as good as cease. So you now have given away a potential ace for multiple years that costs nothing for one year of cease who maybe cant handle new york market and ends up being montas 2.0 when he got traded to the yankees. You also give up your potential cf for next year and beyond on top of that as Marte Siri and Taylor are all free agents (not amazing but im sure jett will be better than any of the 3 in CF. .

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        • geofft

          4 months ago

          @ Flyby Taylor is not a free agent until after 2026, and Siri 2027. And sorry to burst your bubble, but no, you can’t be sure what any prospect with just 92 games above the low-A level will be, particularly after he struggled in his AA debut.

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        • PoisonedPens

          3 months ago

          The deadline isn’t just half the season, as most teams will have played 100-110 games by July 30th, so more like 2/3 of the season.

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      • PoisonedPens

        4 months ago

        So plan on winning every non-Senga/Manaea start 8-5 until then?

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        • Flyby

          4 months ago

          @poisoned

          Pederson was solid last year and had almost as many wins as manaea in less games and had a better overall stat line. I dont know if he will repeat that but he should be a solid number 3. Megill was also pretty solid upon returning after the deadline so definitely not a slouch so yes they will be winning games outside of senga/manaea games and they wont be 8-5.

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        • PoisonedPens

          4 months ago

          Peterson was cooked by the end of the season – whether that was him running out of steam or the league figuring him out remains to be seen; probably some of both. Senga’s still a question mark in the sense of workload he can handle. Collectively, the Mets pitching staff had a 10.9 WAR last year and 5.1 of that left with Severino and Quintana. Another 2.2 was Butto in the swingman role. That would lend credence to the conclusion that the Mets have a very average staff.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          @Posioned Peterson had a 2.79 era the 2nd half in more innings then the 1st? Also had a 2.92 era in the playoffs how do those numbers correlate to “cooked” by the end of the season?

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        • carlos15

          4 months ago

          10-8

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        • geofft

          4 months ago

          @ Poisoned While Senga’s workload is a question mark, the expectation is that he will be here a lot longer than last year. We cannot possibly put a number on him, and trying to do so would be like playing darts while blindfolded. But to arbitrarily count him as zero seems equally baseless. And when you count the WAR that left, you’re (again, arbitrarily) ignoring the WAR that might be coming in with the new additions. Plus, you’ve only counted the positive WAR that left. There were pitchers with negative WAR that also left and were replaced.

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        • PoisonedPens

          4 months ago

          I didn’t arbitrarily count Senga as a zero. Senga is a good third starter and possibly even an above average second starter on most teams, but he’s not by any means an ace on teams that aspire to win a WS! Peterson is projected to regress to his statistical mean (8-6, 3.83, 1.34 WHIP) by Baseball Reference and uh, did @reydey not see Peterson against the Dodgers?. Still not seeing enough there in the Mets staff. Too many questions, a lot of average K numbers, not enough innings., This is a team that aspires to be playing in November but doesn’t need an ace? Sorry.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          @Posioned you make no sense, 1 series and 6 innings is not enough information to determine a player’s trajectory. If that was the case Kershaw should have been “cooked” a decade ago with his playoff numbers. Please stop using projections as an argument too cause most of the time they are very conservative and have no correlation to actual production for that year.

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        • PoisonedPens

          3 months ago

          Okay, Mets are down two starters on Feb 25 and the spring games have barely started. And Peterson isn’t a prospect with some huge untapped potential, he’s 29 1/2 years old with a 1.38 career whip. You want to plan on rolling him out in a three man playoff rotation, that’s on you and Stearns. I just don’t get it.

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        • ReyDay

          3 months ago

          You are just deflecting at this point. Cease has a 1.25 career WHIP is that indicator of what kind of pitcher he is ? Morton didn’t start becoming the solid pitcher he’s been known till age 33. Injuries are a part of baseball and they have Butto, Megill, Canning and Sproat if necessary to hold down the fort for a month. A lot of teams would love to have Peterson has a #3 guy

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      • Buckner

        4 months ago

        The Mets brass has made it very clear they will NOT be moving prospects. Especially for rentals.

        Believe them.

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      • george d

        4 months ago

        You are gonna pay more for Cease (if he is even available) at the trade deadline than you will now. Competition for Cease now is minimal…at the end of July it will be many teams who will be looking for an ace SP. There are too many questions in this Mets staff even if Montas was healthy. Senga?? Holmes as a SP?? Megill?? Blackburn?? Canning…yikes! This division will be hard to win and I do not think the Mets get through a Wild Card series with 3 away games.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          @George while I respect your opinion that’s just flat out wrong. No player will cost more with only 2 months remaining vs getting dealt now. Teams will pivot if it’s too expensive he’s not the only pitcher that will be available and nobody absolutely nobody will give up 2 top 100 guys for a 2 month rental. If the padres are out that will just be more motivation to move him for less or risk losing him for a QO.

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        • Flyby

          4 months ago

          i would disagree it is at a minimum .. i would think its higher because you still have the option of slapping a QO on him and get a pick back which is very valuable and if he is traded mid season it is the same or less as you will have him for less time and lose the option to do the QO. So at worst it is the same price but more likely less.

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    • westcoastmetsfan

      4 months ago

      I wouldn’t give up Sproat and Williams as a starter for a one-year rental.

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      • Idosteroids

        4 months ago

        the ol trade for your best player using our worst players approach. Classic! To get one of the best pitchers in the MLB, even on a one year deal, is going to cost a premium.

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      • george d

        4 months ago

        You would need to give up some talent but not your top prospects for a one year rental. SD will need a 1B after Arraez leaves so send Gilbert and Williams. Jett is a SS/CF and we have Acuna for our future CF and a guy named Lindor for SS for 10 more years. We won’t need Gilbert for 1B after Alonzo leaves and we sign Vlad Jr next year.

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        • geofft

          4 months ago

          george, I think you mean Clifford, not Gilbert. Gilbert is an OF, not at all a 1B. One of the reasons many of the analytics outlets project him as a 4th OF and not a starter is that his HR power is still a little light for a corner spot.
          I really don’t think Vlad is that high n the Mets’ radar. He’s not a good fielder (anymore), he doesn;t keep himself in shape, and he’s going to want a 10 to 15 year contract. At some point in that time frame, he and Soto will both need to do a lot of DHing at the same time.

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    • Big whiffa

      4 months ago

      @youjustmadethatup

      You just made that up lol. Why will the padres trade of minor league depth ? They will be asking for several major league contributors for cease like they did Soto

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    • chandlerbing

      4 months ago

      if mets trade for cease (or king) then they’d only do it with some idea that they can extend those pitchers

      sproat is solid but not spectacular like a jackson jobe or andrew painter. jett missed most of 2024, huge disappointing season. i dont think padres would accept that deal. my guess is they’d want benge, mauricio, acuna as part of some package

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      • JackStrawb

        4 months ago

        If you think Benge, Mauricio, plus Acuna are more valuable than Sproat plus Williams…

        Acuna’s 754 PA with the Mets AA and AAA teams are infinitely more indicative of his talent than his first 19 PA in MLB.

        Even his last 21 PA in MLB are infinitely more indicative of his talent than his first 19.

        There’s a reason some lists don’t even have Acuna in the top 10 in the Mets system.

        As for Mauricio, his injury was much, much worse than Williams’.

        Sproat is more valuable than any two of Benge, Mauricio, and Acuna. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mets turned down an offer for Sproat for a package that was the equivalent of all of Benge, Mauricio, and Acuna.

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Are too scared”…Yeah, that’s why Cohen’s Mets gave Juan Soto $765M, because they’re “scared”, right?..

      Please do not confuse David Stearns being rational, cautious and thoughtful on deals and potential deals with being “scared”.

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    • metslvt17

      4 months ago

      Yeah of course that gets a deal done lol the Mets would NEVER make that trade for a one year rental. What an insane overpay.

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  6. Manks/Yets

    4 months ago

    Got the depth still to go with a 6-man rotation, which seems wise with ?-marks hovering over Senga & Clay; wonder why this changes the calculus

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      They don’t really have the depth to go with a 6-man without Montas.

      Megill, Blackburn, and Canning taking two of the six slots in the rotation, and with Senga pitching 5 innings last year, Peterson never going over 121 MLB innings, Holmes at 32 never a regular starter, and Manaea’s 2024 ‘improvement’ the result only of a fluke .191 BABIP his last 10 starts (Kershaw, career, only had a .274 BABIP). In truth he’s still the reasonably durable guy with the 4.23 ERA / 4.09 FIP from 2022-2024—-the Mets are going to lose at least one more of those four during the next few months or at least one of the six in a 6-man is going to be so ineffective you’ll wish they were out, and the chances are good you’ll get both.

      Seems very foolish not to add another cheap starter in FA. Cohen doesn’t care about the penalties, and the Mets are going to need another starter more than they needed Alonso back.

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      • Flyby

        4 months ago

        and whose spot does he take because i think megill is better than both canning and blackburn and what starter is currently out there in FA is actually better than any of them? Quintana maybe but the rest are about the same and probably worth at best a split deal but will want guaranteed deals on the major league roster and really there are no spots left with megill senga reed and pederson the only pitchers with options left.

        Maybe take a flyer on sixto on a minor league deal as i think he may have options left as depth and the team could potentially fix him but the rest will want major league deals and dont think they are worth it.

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  7. oscar gamble

    4 months ago

    Mistake!

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  8. 10centBeerNight

    4 months ago

    The correct move. NYM SP is better than lots of folks here seem to think. It’s not like Senga had major surgery. His one game before his LEG injury he was excellent. He was rushed back for postseason. Peterson always had excellent potential – why would one assume last year was a fluke? Holmes is a real pitcher. Why can’t he adjust like Lopez did for Atlanta? Only team in NL East that doesn’t look to have question marks is PHI. But who knows

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    • Salzilla

      4 months ago

      I don’t think they’re great, but they do have depth. Another starter isn’t necessarily needed, but this injury sure would have been a good excuse to pull off a big move.

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    • PoisonedPens

      4 months ago

      So which of those ‘excellent” pitchers are you starting in the one win and in game?

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      • Ma4170

        4 months ago

        Healthy Senga every time for me, but some love Manaea

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    • Chris from NJ

      4 months ago

      Sorry but I remember Senga getting carted off the field in his start vs ATL. Maybe I’m wrong?

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      • Ma4170

        4 months ago

        Yep but he was pretty overwhelming until the injury in that game.

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  9. Today

    4 months ago

    Mind boggling. The competition for the 5th spot should be the break glass competition for the 9th and 10th starters.. Canning is mediocre, at best. Blackburn is coming off of a major injury and the next time McGill is a high wire act at the best of times – one minute looking like a hero and the next minute searching for home plate like its the holy grail.

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    • PiazzaParty

      4 months ago

      I get the impression your mind is boggled often and easily

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      @Today Good points, though Canning wishes he’d reached “mediocre.”

      His 2024 season was the MLB equivalent of the Borsch Belt joke, “the food’s terrible.” “Yes, but at least the portions are large.”

      Megill has never had a league average ERA+. He’s never been worth as much as 0.8 bWAR in a season. He’s exceeded 90 innings once.

      Meanwhile Montas pitched 1 and 1/3 inning in 2023. and deserved his 4.84 ERA in 2024, but even so they’re going to miss him.

      Sproat, Tidwell, and Hamel are the only minor league starters in the Mets farm’s top 20 who might be able to help out at the MLB level in 2025. That’s a very thin trio after Sproat. It’s hard to see what Stearns can be thinking at this point. After all, he can always say to Cohen, “hey, you went over my head to add Alonso for $30m, and Quintana’s probably available on an incentive laden deal that will barely top $10m even if he maxes out.” They could sign Lynn instead if they want to crowd the pen and shift him there if he’s good and Montas comes back healthy.

      Standing pat seems foolish unless their projections for who’s left are no better than what they expect from Hamel and Tidwell (they won’t be rushing Sproat).

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    • PoisonedPens

      3 months ago

      That’s being kind to Canning; he was the worst starter in MLB to pitch the full season and led MLB pitchers in runs allowed with 99!..

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      • PiazzaParty

        3 months ago

        PoisonedPen
        That’s reductive. It’s an accomplishment to pitch a full season in and of itself, full stop. Second the Angels don’t even have a pitching development system so unless you figure it out yourself or get a helpful tip from another pro you’re not gonna have a good chance at making necessary adjustments.

        I’m not saying he’s gonna be an all star and win 15 games I’m just saying you’re being unfair.

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  10. Outfieldflyrule??

    4 months ago

    Questionable rotation…with or without Quintana! Now Cease?? That’s another story.

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  11. swanhenge

    4 months ago

    Seems to me you’d wanna focus on run prevention after committing 3 Brinks trucks to Soto. The staff was kinda meh even before Montas’ injury.

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    • PiazzaParty

      4 months ago

      Signing a top offensive talent necessitates shifting focus to run prevention?

      How did you arrive there?

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      • swanhenge

        4 months ago

        Well, without getting too deep into the whole “scoring more runs than the opponent” element…! My thought is that when your team is lassoed to a few 9-figure contracts, it makes every year a win-now scenario. With their spending abilities, i wouldn’t expect many question marks on the roster Especially on the starting staff.

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        • PiazzaParty

          4 months ago

          “My thought is that when your team is lassoed to a few 9-figure contracts, it makes every year a win-now scenario”
          But it’s for 15 years. You want them to go and land the top arms every year for a decade and a half? At the highest tax rate?

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      • mlb fan

        4 months ago

        “Necessitates shifting focus..how did you arrive there?”…,The economic theory of “opportunity cost” holds that you do not have unlimited resources.

        That being the case, signing Soto used up a lot of economic resources to bolster the offense. The laws of common sense suggests you now devote any other expenditures(if any more are forthcoming)towards run prevention.

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        • PiazzaParty

          4 months ago

          Do “The laws of common sense” allow for being taxed at 110%?

          “The economic theory of “opportunity cost” holds that you do not have unlimited resources.”
          If resources were limited why would you want more spending?

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  12. mahalkita

    4 months ago

    Hard to believe they spent all that money on SOTO and neglected the rotation. Hopefully they can trade a bunch of the scrubs they have at the deadline and build something better for next season.

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    • PiazzaParty

      4 months ago

      They gave him a $75M signing bonus, not $800M

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  13. dasit

    4 months ago

    think positive: the venus de milo has no arms and it’s still a pretty good sculpture

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      4 months ago

      This comment needs more up thumbs. I prefer the Nike of Samothrace however.

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  14. Old York

    4 months ago

    So, not at all this season. Interesting.

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  15. chandlerbing

    4 months ago

    Why would mets add a starter? They got senga who missed all of 2024, holmes who hasnt been SP in a decade, montas who is alredy shut down for atleast 2 months without ever throwing a pitch. But thats ok bc they have Tylor Megill, Griffin Canning and Paul Blackburn . dodgers stand no chance

    *rolling eyes* then *throwing up*

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      When you put it that way,… it’s singularly convincing.

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  16. bbgods

    4 months ago

    Trade Blackburn and sign Quintana for a little more, plus incentives for starts.

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      Yes, that makes all the sense in the world. You’re down a starter, so trade another guy you can replace him with the 36 year old with the 4.56 FIP in 2024.

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      • bbgods

        4 months ago

        Quintana is a better pitcher, and was great in the last part of 2024 for the Mets. Proven success in NY counts a lot.

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        • geofft

          4 months ago

          But at 36 and an inconsistent record over the past several years, Quintana is not really proven.

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  17. hllywdjff

    4 months ago

    For now we can live with that staff if need be I’m sure they are willing to take on more salary at the deadline if the right offer comes along…

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      With this rotation they may well find that they wish they’d added the guy at the Deadline during February instead—after they miss the postseason by 1-2 games.

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  18. mbreslow77

    4 months ago

    Can Soto pitch?

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      Weak, accurate arm. Maybe he can double as a junkballer hitting the black in the 6th spot?

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    • Cora the Destroya

      4 months ago

      Dang, I just asked the same thing. Didn’t realize you beat me to it

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  19. YanksPhan42

    4 months ago

    Third place team as is. Rotation even WITH Montas far FAR behind PHL and ATL.

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    • swanhenge

      4 months ago

      Concur

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    • Ma4170

      4 months ago

      How is Atlanta far ahead? Sale, who hasnt had 30 starts since 2017. Schwellenbach we have to see what he is in his sophomore season. Lopez, a converted RP who we have to find out if last year was legit. A couple of months of strider at most. Then what? Braves SP is nowhere near far ahead of the Mets SP. Phillies definitely are.
      Mets could easily win the division, and theyll trade for a sp at the deadline if needed.

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      • JackStrawb

        4 months ago

        @Ma4170 Any time you dismiss the current Cy Young award winner AND Gold Glove winner with “yeah but he hasn’t had 30 starts since 2017” you should probably rethink your entire life to this point, never mind saying of the guy with the 1.99 ERA and 5.1 bWAR in 2024, “big deal—bet he can’t do it again.”

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        • Ma4170

          4 months ago

          I dont have to rethink it at all. Sale cant stay healthy. He couldnt even make it to the playoffs, what are the odds he makes 25+ starts? People cant say senga’s health is a risk more than sale, whose season ended w back issues.
          Oh you mean the guy w xERA of 3.94 and xFIP of 3.44? Sure, i can question him doing that again. Ill make it easy for everyone… he wont.

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    • mahalkita

      4 months ago

      The Nationals could surprise some folks this season as well with their young talent. Be a shame if the Mets spent all that $ and ignored the rotation for a fourth place finish.

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  20. THEY LIVE!!!

    4 months ago

    The Mets are a combo meal shy of a burger & fries & ownership thinks Soto guarantees them a 100 W season

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    • Captainmike1

      4 months ago

      Borass told the Mets that soto is one of the greatest players to ever play the game

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  21. The Raven

    4 months ago

    They should have brought back JV and MS for one year deals at $75MM each.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      4 months ago

      They never should have traded both of them. One of them, fine, but both were ridiculous, because they took the team down and attempted to built it up a year later. They got lucky just to get into the playoffs. And while their offense is great, their pitching is very questionable

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  22. dsett75

    4 months ago

    Ok, but don’t be surprised when Holmes doesn’t work out as a starter and Montas hits his yearly IL stint(s).

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  23. metman

    4 months ago

    a mistake! no reason to think a canning or blackburn can do nearly as well. add robertson too. Ya wanna cheap out now? never enough pitching

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  24. Trotski

    4 months ago

    Y’all are scared to compete without an All-Star at every position. When did Mets fans become so damn needy we got more than enough to go out there and fight, let’s do it.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      4 months ago

      More than enough offense. Pitching? Wait and see

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  25. User 3544663696

    4 months ago

    God I hate you losers on here.

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  26. John Dan

    4 months ago

    Why exactly would the Mets announce to the peanut gallery they want / need another starter? Wouldn’t that be like telling the car salesman that your current car is out of commission and you are desperate so you are in no position to negotiate a fair deal? I think they will make a move when they feel it is necessary not before

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    • JackStrawb

      4 months ago

      Some of us may be forgetting that Montas, currently out 6-8 weeks with the kind of injury that routinely lingers or resurfaces, only pitched to 7 batters in 2023 before he was shut down for the season.

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      • John Dan

        4 months ago

        what does that have to do with my comment on the Mets not proclaiming nationally they “need” a starter so everyone should start inflating the price. Are you Scott Boras in disguise?

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  27. christopher8002

    4 months ago

    (quite voice) Taijuan Walker could be yours for a very, very small return.

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    • Fred2023

      4 months ago

      Yee.

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  28. mlb fan

    4 months ago

    “When they trade for Vlad”..Yes, let’s raid our farm system to acquire a portly, non athletic player who is great one year and quite average the next year.

    Yes, let’s raid our farm system to acquire a one dimensional, Uber slow player who already apparently declined a $340M lon term proposal from the Blue Jays.

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    • Flyby

      4 months ago

      Didnt Guerrero get a gold glove for 1b … i might be wrong though? He also has a pretty good career batting average and pretty good power.

      Personally i dont think a 1b should get that much but i do think he is the top 1b and he is young too.

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      • geofft

        4 months ago

        He got a Gold Glove in ’22. His weight has risen a lot since then, and his fielding was terrible last year. And he had a mediocre season at the plate in ’23.
        mlb fan’s statement might be a little harsh. But its relatively realistic.

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Awesome analysis”…I’m glad you liked it. I’ll be here all week.

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  29. 10centBeerNight

    4 months ago

    If you played Columbo, you’d probably find most of the same folks criticizing NYM rotation here were trashing it 12 months ago. Also reasonably certain those same folks didn’t humbly admit they were wrong. Dunno – that rotation beat Milwaukee and then handled PHI will relative ease. I’ll go with Stearns over Randy from Massapequa

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Same folks..12 months ago”…Exactly. The exact same people(1 year ago) were acting like David Stearns was an inexperienced rube, just arriving to NY from his previous life as a wheat and goat farmer. I was pretty much posting the exact same message until I saw you’d already posted it.

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    • John Dan

      4 months ago

      exactly, the 20/20 hindsight vision of the many experts on here is outstanding

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  30. JackStrawb

    4 months ago

    Hate to break it to you, but the Mets aren’t signing Vlad and spending the next 5 years with by far the worst corner defense in MLB. Not for $400m-plus, and not for a guy who’s going to get old the same time Soto does.

    Even Cohen can’t carry 5 years of dead or dying $91m in payroll.

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Phillies prove your theory”..How does the Phillies missing the playoffs “prove my theory” incorrect?

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  31. lloyd_christmas

    4 months ago

    but but but how are the Yankees going to get rid of Stroman?

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    • John Dan

      4 months ago

      I have a feeling Marcus Stroman will finish the season as a Yankee, in the starting rotation . I am not a super fan of his but I respect what he has accomplished. Stroman has a history of proving his many doubters wrong and now has to do so again.Time will tell I guess

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  32. Cora the Destroya

    4 months ago

    Too bad Juan Soto can’t pitch.

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Soto can’t pitch”..Soto can’t field either, but that seemingly has not diminished his earning power.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        4 months ago

        He’s got power. Mets lineup is great but their biggest concern is pitching, which they should have spent more for

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        • mlb fan

          4 months ago

          “Concern is pitching…spent more”…I believe the Mets are at the point where spending any dollar costs you an extra dollar.

          This being the case, the Met’s Steve Cohen has proved he is more than willing to add taxed payroll at the trading deadline.

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        • lloyd_christmas

          4 months ago

          @sick of mlbtr ads $20 will get rid of them and support the site but what do I know I’m a paying subscriber

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        • Cora the Destroya

          4 months ago

          If willing to add at the deadline, why not add now? The rotation doesn’t look good

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        • Cora the Destroya

          4 months ago

          Don’t get me started…

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  33. Captainmike1

    4 months ago

    I think they should reconsider the yanks offer to give them Stroman for a song and a dance

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    • mlb fan

      4 months ago

      “Stroman for a song and a dance”… I don’t actually believe that the Met’s Steve Cohen can dance. And singing publicly would be completely out of the question.

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      • Captainmike1

        4 months ago

        It would be done by the Mets mascot person

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  34. aaronbj52

    3 months ago

    Mets fans enjoy Soto and Alonso maybe one of them can learn how to blow chunks and be a starting pitcher !

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