The Blue Jays have made another contract offer to Vladimir Guerrero Jr., reports Buster Olney of ESPN. No specifics of the offer have been publicly reported but Olney says a gap remains between the two sides.
The will-they-won’t-they between the Jays and Guerrero has been playing out for years now, but with a special focus on the drama this winter. Guerrero is now slated for free agency after the 2025 season, which begins today for the Jays. It’s common for players to set Opening Day as a deadline in contract talks, to avoid distractions during the season. Guerrero initially went a step further and set a deadline of February 18, the opening of Spring Training.
That day came and went without a deal getting done, though Guerrero subsequently said he would keep the door open if the Jays wanted to come back to the table. Reportedly, Guerrero’s asking price was a deal of at least 14 years and worth $500MM. The Jays reportedly did make him an offer in February with a sticker price of $500MM, but with deferrals that would knock the net present value down to the $400-450MM range. Guerrero is said to be open to deferrals generally but would still like the NPV to get to that $500MM line.
In a sense, that $50-100MM gap is not large. For a deal of that length, that’s about $3.5MM to $7MM annually. In an annual baseball budget, that’s what clubs spend on a veteran reliever or a backup catcher. That would appear to be a bridgeable gap. That’s perhaps especially true when looking at the broader picture. Guerrero has been the face of the franchise for many years now. The Jays have tried to sign other marquee players like Shohei Ohtani, Juan Soto and Roki Sasaki but without success.
The regime of president Mark Shapiro and general manager Ross Atkins has seemingly left a large segment of the fanbase discontent. There has been a lot of regular season success in recent years but the Jays have been swept in all of their most recent playoff appearances. Many things went wrong in 2024, which exacerbated the frustration.
Letting Guerrero walk for a relatively small financial gap would likely be unwelcome from a public relations perspective, whereas getting a deal done on Opening Day could theoretically provide a nice boost to fan morale.
The front office seems to view the situation as one that can be resolved. Shapiro recently expressed confidence that a deal would get done, either an extension or later in free agency. That was an unusual bit of candor, since front office types usually duck questions about ongoing negotiations. Atkins made somewhat similar comments yesterday, per Hazel Mae of Sportsnet and Keegan Matheson of MLB.com.
Presumably, this new offer from the Jays has moved closer to Guerrero’s asking price. Though as mentioned, no details have been publicly reported. A deal in this range would be fairly unprecedented, for the Jays or any other club.
As of a few months ago, no player had received a contract with an NPV at $500MM or higher. At the start of the 2024-25 offseason, the largest deal on record was Ohtani’s ten-year, $700MM pact with the Dodgers. Thanks to the heavy deferrals in that deal, Major League Baseball calculated the AAV as $46.06MM with the MLBPA at $43.78MM, meaning the NPV on the deal was roughly $437-460MM. Even those reduced numbers were all records, in terms of largest guarantee and largest AAV ever.
Each of those numbers is now a distant second, thanks to Soto’s deal. He got $765MM over 15 years with no deferrals, meaning his net present value shattered Ohtani’s. The AAV on that is $51MM, which also went notably beyond Ohtani’s deferral-adjusted AAV.
A hypothetical deal worth $500MM over 14 years would be a $35.7MM AAV. That would be well below Soto and Ohtani but still put Guerrero in the top 15 of all contracts by AAV, ahead of players like Carlos Correa, Francisco Lindor and Mookie Betts. The total guarantee would be second all-time, when adjusting Ohtani’s down.
Guerrero hasn’t been quite as elite as Ohtani or Soto but still has a strong track record for a player his age. Many top prospects don’t reach the majors until their mid-20s but Guerrero just turned 26 earlier this month, which is a huge part of his earning power. He already has 819 games under his belt with 160 home runs, a .288/.363/.500 batting line and 137 wRC+. He was even better than that in both 2021 and 2024. Though he dipped a bit in the two seasons in between, he hit .323/.396/.544 for a 165 wRC+ last year. He’s not an especially strong defender at first but he has accomplished a lot with the bat already. If he and the Jays can’t work out a new deal, he will be one of the top free agents of next year’s class.
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anything more than 12 years or $575 million and you have to move on.
12 years? He would be 38 when the contract expires. Personally, I would go 10 years at the absolute most, and would have a hard time even going THAT long. I would offer 8 years for $440 and see if he bites.
Its worse for the team to be shorter deal at the same money. The reason to go more years is to be more competitive during the competitive years of the contract.
Obviously Vlad would take 8/$440, thats absurd!
Paying him until he is 38 years old is absurd. That’s a complete waste of money for the level of production you’re going to get out of him 12 years from now.
It won’t be absurd money 5 years into the contract.
“12 years from now”…12 years?…If it were truly “12 years from now”, I’d just sign him and worry about it over a decade from now. Guerrero Jr. is very inconsistent and streaky and you really don’t know what you’ll get from him in a given week, month or year.
Personally, if this guy gets signed 10+ years long term, I’d be worrying about his level of production in years 1, 2 and 3. There’s quite a bit of variance and inconsistency in Vlad’s year to year consistency and level of production.
Multiple reasons its worse.
– $55M luxury tax hit vs maybe $35M if you have 14 years. Significantly impacts your ability to field a competitive team. over the 8 years.
– CBT usually goes up every year so $35M in 13 years is even significantly less than $55M in 7 years.
– “present value”. $35M in 13 years is worth a lot less than $35M in 7 years (let alone $55M in 7 years)
– etc.
There is less than a zero percent chance they are giving vlad $55M/year
Yawn
Many commentators are not factoring in inflation.15 years from today the annual rate is less 30%
Its not the amount per year, its the years. We are talking a 1B here. Sign him for 5 years and tell him its so he can cash in on FA again. Pay him top dollar like Boston did with their 3B. If he wants/ insists on 10 years, wave bye bye!
But Trump said there would be no inflation under his watch?!
He is overweight and streaky. Plays an average 1B. Hope he gets hot and trade him before the break.
The trumpster lies a lot. If he moves his mouth, he is lying.
False
But you stretch it out so that the annual luxury tax hit is lower.
Not going to bite on that. That boat sailed a month ago….
If he wants $575M, I’d demand he take a 20 year contract.
He probably won’t be a good player at 38 (and certainly not at 46), but as long as he’s on the field he’ll still be bringing in fans who want to watch a legend and buy the uniform. Have the contract convert to a personal services contract upon retirement, make him a guest instructor every spring and send him to meet fans at every opportunity. The later years are virtually deferred money.
Baseball is probably the only sports where fans get excited to see an old man on the field who isn’t productive but is still around because he signed a big fat contract. It ruins overall competitiveness and thus the product though.
@Dbacks — No, just no. Fans and baseball in general love history, legends, nostalgia, but I don’t know if the majority would prefer to see the shadow of 40 y/o Pujols hobble around the bases on a line drive, just because that team really wanted him when he was 10 years younger. A team doesn’t want Trea Turner at 41 y/o. But there are still some players that are more productive at that age than 15 years younger, fwiw. Look at what Bonds did at 36-39 y/o (…).
Bonds, really? You’re using him as an example? He had more rouds in his body than a horse! He couldn’t get a hat to fit him. He was a walking, talking robot, basically. What a damn joke it is that he had the HR record. There should have been an asterisk when Hank got it because he had so many more n PA’S than Ruth. But Bonds would need an asterisk as big as his head used to be!
@rememberthecoop — I guess the ellipsis and obviousness of Bonds’ use is enough of a sign not to be taken seriously, but I guess not.
LG dbacks. That’s one heck of a strawman you built there. Fans in general aren’t “excited” about the tail end of a deal like this. They do tend to be excited about a homegrown franchise cornerstone playing his entire prime for their team though. And perhaps sentimental,nostalgic and appreciative when players like that retire as a one team guy.
Vlad is fat, can’t run, average D at best. Pass on him. Hope he gets hot and trade him
Blue jays fans have never experienced that. Fans have been brainwashed into being frugal with billionaires money and saving money for the future because hope for the future is mostly what we’ve been sold for 30 years.
False false and false lol. Tell me you don’t know the player without telling me you don’t know the player.
I hope he can afford to take care of the family on 440 million.
Ooof 440 mil man it’d be tough to make ends meet on that. He’s not a charity, cone on now.
@laynestaley2022 Costing the Jays about $50m in NPV versus the longer deal? That’s smart.
The problem for the Jays, contrary to TFA, is that they’ve _already_ added that add’l $3.75m to 7.5m per year to their offer.
Guerrero is a 4 win 1Bman with a history of weight issues and the body of Dom Smith,
10/300m is a fair price for his age 27-36 seasons. The Jays FO can call the Sox FO and ask how the Sox feel about their $300m+ deal with Devers.
Yes and this poor thinking is why Toronto can’t have nice things. It’s not your money, let them pay the going rate. He generates a lot more than that in income for the team. Not his fault rest of team sucks.
As a Jays fan $575M is absurd.. 14 years is fine as it lowers AAV. My absolute maximum was 14/$450M but maybe you go to 14/$500M for the “Canada Tax” as Jays cant get guys in FA.. That said, Springer deal was awful in hindsight, way worse than we thought and we even accounted for the final 2 years of the contract to be bad.
I would move on long before that.
Dude’s a 1B who’s been good, but not great, in 4 of his 6 MLB seasons.
“But not great”…At best, Vlad may be worth a bit more than Pete Alonso. Maybe 2 or 3 more years on his deal to reflect his youth compared to Alonso and give him $50M total more.
There’s no sane reason to pay him 5x more than Alonso, because every other year Alonso has been just as good or better. Vlad is not even in the same ball park as the truly great first basemen like Freddy Freeman.
@mlbfan
Most in here, including you, don’t seem to see or understand the current economics of MLB. To get these star players to sign, and get their prime years, teams have to sign these long deals. Doubtful the Mets expect to get the level of production that Soto’s contract calls for when he’s in his late 30s/40s, but to get the player today, that’s what the deal called for.
You may think that the Jays would be ‘overpaying’, but I’m pretty sure that there are other teams that would gladly give him $500+ next offseason. His value isn’t just what the Jays think/hope it is; it’s what the open market would offer.
Cohen’s obsession with The Price is Right comes in useful and wins at 11 years and 580M.
Vlad to Detroit!
Like prince fielder
And then gets traded to a big market team 2 year after!
Detroit doesnt have the bucks.
Good try,
-Steve Cohen
He would be stupid, if he doesn’t take the 💵💰💵 What happens if he does decide to try free agency and has a horrible year filled with injuries and declining numbers, he will lose out.. Just like Alonso did when the Mets offered him a huge contract.
Yeah, is definitely a risk but also high reward if nothing bad happen and has a great year. I don’t think the gap will be that big like the 440 millions vs 765 of Soto.
Soto told the Yankees he would not take small money. They tried before he bacame a FA. If he has a career yr , then Cohen will really pay up.
If not the Jays, then who? Cubs don’t spend like that. Mets have Pete. Yanks don’t seem to want to pay that much. Dodgers have FF. Angels maybe but really not sure who would go for him in free agency anyway.
Mets have pete for 1 yr
Vlad is a met 2026
Mets can replace Pete with vlad, if Steinbrenner could offer 760 mil for Soto then he can offer 600 for vlad, Freddie could retire, angels signing him would be exactly like Albert pujols so they’d do it again
“Mets can replace Pete”…Vlad would be totally NUTS to become a free agent. No one, but the Jays will take his ridiculous ask seriously.
I could see at least 27 teams hanging up the phone laughing. If Vlad becomes a free agent he will get a very rude awakening when he finds out 90% of teams are set at 1b or don’t want to commit that kind of money to a portly, one dimensional first basemen. If Vlad doubts this he should ask Pete Alonso.
Lol. No he isn’t. Didn’t you listen to Stearns and those huge long term generational contracts? He said No.
Mets fans who think Guerrero is going to be a met think Cohen is just going to drop money on every single player whether they need them or not. Its a cocky mentality and as a mets fan you should know better
finally a rational fan.i agree with wht you say HAZE
Can’t rule out the Phillies imo. Not trying to say they should but they do have some real money coming off books the next couple seasons so I think there’s a possible world where they would if vlad has a good platform year. Or perhaps more likely if vlad doesn’t put up truly elite numbers this season and the price goes down a bit.
The nationals are a possibility if they are ready to go all in on their window this coming offseason.
The giants could conceivably be in the mix depending on where they are this offseason.
The tigers could be a roster fit on paper if they want to be aggressive on pushing their window and finally spend though I don’t consider it very likely.
And hypothetically the Yankees could be in the mix depending on the situation. That said (I might be misremembering tho) iirc munetaka Murakami is eligible for posting this offseason and as a 3b he might be a less expensive and cleaner fit, especially if Ben Rice can seize the opportunity and establish himself as a core piece in the 1b/dh mix.
The Phillies got Harper out of the OF by moving him to 1B. They got Schwarber out of the OF by moving him to DH. They have been trying to move Castellanos to get him off the field. There is no way the Phillies are going to sign Vlad, so they would be worse at 1B, and move Harper back to the OF, where he used to battle Castellanos for worst fielder. Just so many better ways to use that money.
I don’t disagree with you. It’s not a move I would make. I did notice however that harper said he was willing and in his opinion able to move back to outfield if it helped the team. Hard not to see an implued connection to a vlad jr scenario at the deadline or in the offseason there. Like I said,I don’t rule the Phillies out, but I’m not saying they should go get him.
Mets want him! Pete would be DH.
Hey rob—how’s it all going? Sad to say, whether we like it or not, the Mets don’t rate to sign a bad body 1Bman for $450m+ unless Cohen decides to wreck the team for at least the last 5 years of the deal by playing GM and paying Soto and Vlad close to $100m a season to play non-premium defensive positions badly. You just can’t run a team like that, syncing up the decline phases of the two most expensive players in the game.
I suppose by 2030 they can platoon at DH. Won’t be pretty.
It is good for the league when teams are able to retain homegrown stars, and generally worth an overpay if it is not utterly ridiculous. I hope for the sake of Toronto that they can figure this out…along with Bichette.
The NBA is seeing the results when it comes to this, as not only has the game of pro basketball become far more boring but the stars have become simple mercenaries that, no matter the contract status, will demand to move to a new spot whenever the mood strikes.
Baseball is in much better shape when it comes to that, however the vast disparity in team revenues makes it ever so much more difficult for the lower tier to retain their stars – and that makes fan disengagement more of a concern.
Why is Toronto lower tier?
Toronto is not lower tier, and I did not express that idea either.
Now kiss
He’s not thin and tall like his father. Thats way too much money. He gets less on the open market, but by then he probably wont sign in Canada.
His father was not thin what the hell are you talking about
He is Canadian lol
Dude’s gonna get paid a$tronomically at this point lol stay tuned…
The problem is he may spend it gastronomically.
There always is a new sucker who is ready to pay up. The Mets are in this bidding for sure.
0% chance Captain Ignorance
I would love to see a Bird Rule equivalent in baseball. Something like 25% of the AAV doesn’t count against the LT calculation. I don’t have a view as to whether Vlad and the Jays pair up forever (I’m a Yankee fan and I’d prefer not to see him the next few years) but I would like to see teams like the Jays have an advantage in keeping their players.
That’s a great idea Cash. I’m in favor of something like this, incentivizing players to re-sign with the teams the drafted or developed them because they can earn more, as opposed to those clamoring for a salary cap.
That proposal would incentivize CBT-paying teams to offer more to their own players.
It would reduce competitive balance while increasing the players’ share of the profits. No way the owners would agree without major concessions elsewhere.
Given that the MLBPA has lost the last 5+ negotiations, don’t expect to see this in the future.
Reducing luxury tax on the big money teams will only widen the gap between them and the AAAA squads
The structured drafting, international signings, scouting and player development was done to bridge that gap.
I don’t see the need for this. Teams who have CBT concerns are not the ones who need help spending more. Bird Rights exist in the NBA to keep players in smaller markets that might otherwise go to a large market. Your proposal merely helps large markets retain their players, which is not typically a concern.
This seems like a terrible move and most likely an overpay. This is all about Shapiro and Atkins’ job security.
If they don’t resign him, they’re getting fired
If they do sign him, they’re getting fired 2 year from now
If they Jays don’t play .500 ball this year no matter what both of them are getting fired, and their reputation around the league tells me that there won’t be any contending takers for that pair post-Toronto…!
Except Cleveland. I fully expect them to re-hire at least one of these guys if they were fired
They’re a great bet to get fired regardless of what they do. The current team might only win 75 games. Only won 74 last year and they didn’t make a lot of impact moves in the offseason. If they kick the can on Guerrero this year, the decision may be someone else’s headache.
Ed Rogers was in the meetings with Vlad so I dont know if they will be here either way. Should be fired into the sun if they let bo go for a comp pick.
Can you say weight clause?
“Shapiro and Atkins job security”…Those are employees of the actual owners and decision makers. The owners make these decisions for their own reasons and their employees carry them out.
No sane billionaire is going to let his or her employees commit half a BILLION dollars to enhance and buttress their job security. These things aren’t done in a vacuum.
Vlad is milking this a few million and a few years too far. He wants close to $600M and 14 years. Having followed him since he was 19 I can honestly say I don’t think this would be a good contract for the Jays to take on. The last few years of that contract will be a burden. Vladdy has been durable but his work ethic/effort does not lead me to believe that he will age well beyond 35 as anything other than a DH…that is one expensive DH. If he worked at the same level of his talent, he might not be elite, but he would be close enough to get his deal signed. He just risks irking the fan base if he holds out now…
I dont get why Vlad needs to soak the team he wants to play for for every last nickel. If you want to see the definition of wanting to stay with your team, watch the Josh Allen interview after he recently signed his extension.
Question: if a long term contract is significantly backloaded, is there any adjustment based on NPV?
I think only deferrals would change that value.
No.
This is why it’s better to pay more money up front, then add deferrals on the backend. Player makes same present day value while team is able to lower the CBT number.
The Dodgers’ Snell deal is the best example so far. Expect this to become more of a trend until the rules change.
A deal for at LEAST 14 years? Pass….
I really hope the Jays sign him for 15 years and empty the bank doing so. I also hope they finish last season.
He fits in perfect in Toronto. Big mouth, Likes to whine and has to be Definitely has the Doug Ford body
@JohnDan – “Big mouth, Likes to whine…” – therefore fits perfectly in Toronto? The better fit would be the oval office by far.
“Oval office”…Be honest; you fantasize, lust, obsess and dream about the guy in the “Oval Office”, don’t you?
@mlbfan – Two points: First, the fact that you are not troubled by what is going on up there and elsewhere shows that you are unable to process anything more complex than opening up a Natty Light, and/or simply lacking in any form of ethic that goes beyond your next meal.
Second point – Your pathetically rude reaction shows that you are also a worthless waste of space.
“Are not troubled”…Said the out of touch guy who gets his “facts” from Hollywood celebrities and a very biased, one sided MSM.
@mlbfan – For your own sake, I hope that you escape from the Cult of Idiocracy soon. Your playbook is simple-minded, repetitive and full of holes.
“Pathetically rude”…An arrogant, elitist liberal calling someone “rude”? Now that’s comical.
For a moment, I will try with you. Please go back and read the comments as they played out. I reacted to another commenter with a benign comment that played upon his thoughts regarding Toronto, Doug Ford and Vladdie.
You then replied to me without justification by being truly rude and tasteless, as I guess that to someone like you even a mild remark aimed at dear leader makes you upset and lash out.
I will also try to explain to you that having a sense of revulsion to what is going on right now does not make one, by necessity, an “elitist liberal”. It only works that way in your playbook.
@mlb fan: “and a very biased, one sided MSM.”
You people realize that Fox News *is* the MSM, right? And that it is a propaganda network? You like to talk about CNN and MSNBC being biased, which is correct. But then you turn on Fox or Newsmax when they’re even worse.
mlb teen
Sorry son
Being conservative is not a priori a bad thing
I prefer moderate conservatism versus off the cliff far left liberalism
However
Can’t see how anyone can claim intelligence whilst supporting the felonious ignorant orange slob criminal
@John
Please show proof of how he “whines” and has a “big mouth”
I think it’s best to mute mlb fan.
@majorleaguebf – I am not on here quite enough to recognize by name all but the most obvious trolls and morons, however he certainly made his own case for inclusion. Thanks for the heads up.
There are a good number of very solid posters on this site, however it is disturbing that there is still such a high volume experts lacking any expertise whatsoever that blather endlessly, as well as the traditional personality disorders that have nothing better to do.
The Blue Jays better hope they don’t get the 2023 version of Vladdy at these kinds of numbers. Such a contract would be worse than Strasburg and Rendon combined. The guy is all bat, all the time with little or no defensive or baserunning value. And sometimes the bat goes AWOL.
I don’t think anyone will outdo that Rendon contract any time soon lol
He is actually a very good defender at 1st and passable at 3rd and as big a guy as he is, he is in the 80th percentile for baserunning. He is a lot faster and a better baserunner than people think he is.
The Blue Jays must be close to Vladdy’s number for him to backtrack and not shut down negotiations. I think an extension will get done.
There is absolutely no way whatsoever Vlad Jr is worth being the 2nd highest paid player in baseball.
There is no way he’s in the top 10. Desperation or not, common sense should apply in Toronto and let him walk and discover that the market isn’t so irrational as to pay that much and for that long for him.
@Dave 32 We looked at it here last week. He’s in a multiway tie for about 25th in the majors if you include pitchers.
It doesn’t mean a thing without the ring. October baseball matters.
“The regime of president Mark Shapiro and general manager Ross Atkins has seemingly left a large segment of the fanbase discontent.”
Understatement of the year
“Regime.”
What are they, lawless U.S. presidents?
The Blue Jays have painted themselves into a corner here. If Vlad has a big year, they will have to outbid the market to retain him, likely at more than $500 million. But to sign him now at his asking of $500 million, they’d have to bet on a stellar 2025 AND take on 14 years of underperformance risk.
Should have settled this 2-3 years ago, Toronto. Instead, you took him to arbitration. Bad decision.
Taking Vladdy to arb was an odd choice over less than a $2M difference. I don’t care how thick-skinned you are, getting torn down by an employer has to have some lingering effect on a player.
@Bobin Texas
Let him become a FA, and then out bid the market. It will be a contract much lower than he is currently asking for. And fewer years. Look at the recent contracts signed by 1B over the last 5 years. Even Freddie Freeman got less than expected.
If he flops in 2025, you will certainly be correct.
Toronto burdened with a massive $500M contract for a 1st base/DH is exactly what my home teamm needs. Go Mariners!
The Jays will have to increase the number of Happy Meals if they want to retain Vlad.
Trade the guy! Lazy,not a team player. Would get good amount for him.
Trade the guy on opening day after progress has consistently been made toward the shared goal of a contract that locks him for the rest of his career? That’s definitely a way to go I guess 😂😂😂
@dice
this team would be nothing without Vlad Jr.
That’s nuts. Anything over 500 mil is overpay. Not every player is Shohei or Juan, they’re just not.
Agreed, the other side is that contracts always increase and if they signed him for 300/10 2+ years ago how much better off would they be now even tho that would have looked like an over pay then
@Teamspirit Anything close to $500m is an overpay. By WAR (so we can compare him with pitchers) Vlad is in a tie for about 25th best player in MLB, using the standard most projection systems use.
How is he better than the raft of stars who signed $300m deals over the last 5 years? There’s no argument that he’s in the tier with Lindor, Soto, Ohtani, Judge et al, and he’s also nowhere close to the likes of Semien and Freddie Freeman over the last three years—or even the last four years if you do Vlad the favor of including 2021, which most projection systems discard or count at most at around 11% of a 2025 projection.
It’s a long list. From 2022-2024 he’s 20% worse that Matt Olson.
Even 10/$300m is a stretch.
lol at the armchair agents/owners, all that matters is that the two sides agree and I hope it happens, would love to see Vlad be a lifetime Jay as both sides seem to want and doesn’t happen as often as it used to in the game in general.
Something like 32-34 per year over 14 is in the 450-475 range, then add 60-100 deferred is likely what he is going to get. I remember 2/3 years ago thinking I wouldn’t give him 300-350 over 10/12 years now we’re talking that, plus more, plus 75+deferred. I’m a jays fan I still think Bo is who u give a 10 year deal to and sell Vladdy for a haul. I still like Vlad but when you consider, Fielder, Sandoval and Chris Davis you have to realize that this almost exclusively doesn’t end well. At best Vladdy gives you good- great production for 8-10 years then what? Ownership clearly wants to contend as they paid massively for stadium upgrades 2 years running, plus AAA and ST facility upgrades just prior; offsetting that cost with good attendance and some playoff games is paramount for them. Selling Vladdy for a young MLB player plus some great prospects makes more sense long term, but then getting players to sign is a different story
Salaries for stars haven’t really increased in the last 2-3 years. Only Ohtani and Soto have gotten huge contracts, and Ohtani’s the obvious unicorn, while the Soto deal is patently absurd.
They shouldn’t be moving the needle on players of a fairly common type like Vlad.
Bo would be lucky to get 8 or 9 years. And if I am the Jays I strongly consider locking him up. Let’s remember, a year ago we all said we wanted Bo extended over Vlad.
A fools errand.
He’s not going to sign because he wants to play for the New York Mets.
McIgnorance
The two sides had an opportunity to come together to form an extending contract; however, they didn’t. Whatever each side moved towards an agreement, they failed to exhibit togetherness necessary for this relationship to persist.
The Jays are determined to decimate the franchise for years to come on a foolishly long and overpriced extension for a one-dimensional player… they couldn’t win anything with him in his prime while they could afford to pay other players, they sure as heck won’t be winning anything as he ages and dominates their financial resources for over a decade.
@LFG
So Blake Snell, Aaron Nola, and ketel marte are wastes of money?
@LFG
you could say every MLB player is “overpaid”
there’s a reason you’ve been banned 10 times.
The Mute button is your friend.
If they don’t resign him, this is 100% on Guerrero. He is grossly overvaluing himself
Not really. He has all the leverage right now.
Gotta sign him… no choice. No, you don’t want to go past 10 years, but sometimes you have to do things in life you don’t want to. Think I wanna cut down on my beer drinking? No… but the wife says I have to…..so I do. And Vladdy has to be signed to keep this from being a joke of a franchise. And running the risk of carrying a bad contract for a few years at the end is the cost of trying to compete with the big boys. 13 and 550 is crazy, 42 mil per is crazy. 13 years from now, it won’t be that crazy and it’ll be a forgotten issue if they get 7-8 really good years out of him in his prime and he’s anchoring a competitive team.
How is it people don’t understand that for the team, 15/$500m is vastly preferable to 10/$500m?
The answer to Jack’s silly comment…
BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS OVER IN TEN FREAKING YEARS. THAT IS WHY.
Either he’s a greedy turd
Or he wants to play for another team
Or both
15 years 500 million with out clause
Relax and sign with the Yankees next season
JWA!! Just Walk Away!!
Don’t do it Vladdy unless the Blue Jays increase to 10 years/1.8 Billion CDN
13 years, $501-mil. The years is too much, the price is too high, welcome to the market. One would hope he provides 7-8 years of great production and hold on tight for the final bunch.
Face(s) of the Blue Jays. Have a one organization talent to promote and build around. After his career is done he will forever be a team ambassador. The only reason not to extend him is you do not feel he would be a team ambassador and/or a guy you can win with if you burn nearly $40-mil per year.