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Josh Hader Undergoing Tests For Shoulder Discomfort

By Mark Polishuk | August 11, 2025 at 10:54pm CDT

The Astros used Enyel De Los Santos and Bennett Sousa in the ninth inning of tonight’s 7-6 win over the Red Sox, which immediately raised eyebrows since closer Josh Hader hadn’t pitched since Friday and was seemingly fresh.  However, Astros manager Joe Espada told reporters (including Matt Kawahawa of the Houston Chronicle) that Hader was unavailable due to what Espada described as “discomfort” in Hader’s left shoulder.

Hader was undergoing testing on his shoulder and more will be known once the results of those scans are in, but for now, the Astros and their fans can only hope that the closer has avoided a significant injury.  Losing Hader would be a massive hit to an Astros team trying to stay ahead of the surging Mariners in the AL West race.

Now in his second season of a five-year, $95MM free agent contract, Hader wasn’t quite as dominant as usual in 2024, as a spike in home runs and hard-hit ball rate led to a 3.80 ERA over 71 innings.  Things have been more normal this year, as Hader has a 2.05 ERA over 52 2/3 innings, and posted a set of impressive Statcast metrics to go along with his sparkling ERA.  Hader’s 7.8% walk rate is noteworthy, as it represents his first above-average number in that category since the 2019 season.  As always, Hader is generating a ridiculous amount of swing-and-miss, sitting in the 99th percentile of all pitchers in strikeout, whiff, and chase rates.

In his previous game on Friday, Hader threw a season-high 36 pitches over two innings of work, getting the win in the Astros’ ten-inning 5-3 result over the Yankees.  He has topped the 30-pitch threshold just four times in 48 games this season, and only seven times pitched more than a single inning.  With this in mind, it could be that Hader is just a little sore in the aftermath of that longer outing in New York, and needs a bit more recovery time.

Houston’s pen is deep enough in quality arms that the club should be able to withstand a brief absence for Hader, as any of Sousa, Steven Okert, Bryan King, or Bryan Abreu could step into the closer’s role.  The Astros have had one of the best bullpens in baseball this year, though obviously Hader has been a big factor in the relief corps’ excellence.

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  1. chandlerbing

    7 hours ago

    Oh crap!

    Reply
  2. Unclemike1526

    7 hours ago

    Like the guy in the dirigible says in ” The Mummy Returns”, ” Well that’s not good”!

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  3. Longtimecoming

    7 hours ago

    Ruh Ro Raggy

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  4. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    7 hours ago

    I hope hader does ok, but… this would be a huge twist regarding the AL west standings…

    Reply
    • dairy_sanders

      20 mins ago

      Really? The mariners have been predicted to win the west for at least 5 games now

      Reply
  5. JuanUribeJazzHands

    7 hours ago

    “Hader wasn’t quite as dominant as usual in 2024, as a spike in home runs and hard-hit ball rate led to a 3.80 ERA over 71 innings. ”

    “spike in…hard-hit ball rate”
    Hader BABIP last 4 seasons (highest to lowest)
    .333
    .264
    .230
    .202
    One stands out. That wasn’t last year though. The harder hit balls didn’t lead to more hits on balls in play.

    How about homeruns?

    “as a spike in home runs ”
    Hader HR/FB last 4 seasons (highest to lowest)
    15.8%
    15.1%
    12.3%
    5.8%
    No real “spike” here. Just one outlier down season.

    FB rate last 4 seasons (highest to lowest)
    60
    52
    47
    47
    There is some change there, which could have led to a few more HR allowed in 2024.

    “wasn’t quite as dominant as usual in 2024”
    Hader xFIP- last 4 seasons (highest to lowest
    80
    74
    74
    71
    Which of these is the less dominant season? Not 2024.

    Josh Hader K%-BB% last 4 seasons (highest to lowest)
    29%
    29%
    27%
    24%
    One kinda stands out. Wasn’t last year, though.

    I don’t see anything about him being hit harder that lead to the worse ERA. Anyone?

    What could it be?

    Hader LOB% last 4 seasons (highest to lowest)
    89%
    87%
    69%
    67%

    Ahh. There it is. Sequencing. Instead of distributing baserunners evenly over his outings, they were bunched up which allows runs to score. This is usually luck.

    He looked just as dominant last year as he has recently. IMHO

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    • Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

      7 hours ago

      Wouldn’t you organize by year? Sorting high to low across four years is strange. You even preface it by saying the last four years making it seem like that’s the basis you’re sorting on.

      High to low doesn’t show year over year variation. If that exists.

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      • JuanUribeJazzHands

        6 hours ago

        HS

        To show that last season doesn’t stand out

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        • Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

          6 hours ago

          I don’t know. Just looking at the numbers, there are outliers, and you explain them. But, year over year is more illustrative imo especially when you need to qualify some year stats.

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    • DonOsbourne

      7 hours ago

      If I recall correctly Hader got off to a bad start last season and then hit a couple of rough patches during the season. The uneven performance may have led to the impression he was hit harder last year.

      Reply
  6. Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

    7 hours ago

    Dude pitches more than one inning and his arm explodes. $19mil/year well spent.

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    • Unclemike1526

      7 hours ago

      Name a P who pitches too much whose arm DOESN’T explode. I’ll wait.

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      • Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

        7 hours ago

        I’m referencing him refusing to pitch more than an inning before he hit free agency.

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          6 hours ago

          HHS

          I hate when people do what they think is in their best interest

          Especially in an industry that rips them off for the first 6 years of their career.

          Good for Hader

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        • Hawkeye75

          6 hours ago

          There is a significant reason why he refused to pitched more than one inning. Obviously you don’t know. The front office of that team went into arbitration hearing with him and trashed him for the multiple innings, saying that only his closing innings mattered and anything else was a detriment to his ability to close. That pissed him off so he refused to do anything other than the closing inning as that’s all the team was interested in paying for.

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        • Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

          6 hours ago

          You are being disingenuous in your posts prior and now you are purposefully misrepresenting my argument.

          Muted for being an idiot.

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        • Hulk Hogan’s Skeleton

          6 hours ago

          Okay? He signed with a new team. Pitched two innings right before he got hurt. Cheese and crackers people, stop pearl clutching it’s lighthearted.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 hours ago

          Hulk – Sorry none of us ever hears about players refusing to do something unless their name is Devers.

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        • TheGr8One

          4 hours ago

          You deserved to be blocked seriously. An industry that rips them off for the first 6 years of their career? Has a dumber statement ever been made? They play a game and make 10x what I make while being “ripped off”. They aren’t curing cancer and aren’t making missiles they are playing.a.game. Get some perspective dude you’re a train wreck of complaint.

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  7. Citizen1

    6 hours ago

    AA on the line with rasael igesias. Not Julio inglesias

    Reply
  8. t0bIe1CaN0bI

    6 hours ago

    Karma is a b

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    • orbitsbrother

      2 seconds ago

      Karma for what?

      Reply
  9. Informed Sportsball Discussion

    6 hours ago

    Ruh roh.

    It’s probably being an a-hole to say how fortunate it is he protected his arm in 2023. I definitely won’t do that.

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  10. Sparky1000

    6 hours ago

    This Mariners fan knows that Hader being out would be a huge advantage for them. Still, it always sucks to see a dominant pitcher go down.

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