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Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Mets, Tigers, Red Sox, Angels, Pirates

By Cork Gaines | December 5, 2008 at 12:27pm CDT

Today is free agent Cliff Floyd’s birthday. He is 36 years young. His knees are not. Also, on this date 18 years ago, the San Diego Padres sent Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter to the Blue Jays for Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez, in one of the biggest trades ever featuring young, proven talent. Got one that can top that? Let’s hear it in the comments…With little action so far this year, the Hot Stove Season is ugly, Don Mossi ugly. Let’s take a look at what is being written in the blogosphere…

  • Mets Geek takes a look at three recent rumored deals that may be sitting on Omar Minaya’s desk and ponders whether or not the Mets should make each trade.
  • The Detroit Tigers Weblog breaks down what a Jack Wilson trade would mean for the Tigers.
  • Fire Brand of the American League feels that with the recent additions to the bullpen, the Red Sox may be better suited to insert Justin Masterson into the rotation, rather than sign a high-priced free agent.
  • Ump Bump suggests that the Angels could get more bang for the buck if they sign Adam Dunn over Mark Teixeira.
  • The ’Burgh Blues picks through the scraps and identifies eight players they would like to see the Pirates invite to Spring Training, including Richie Sexson, Sidney Ponson, Mark Prior and Matt Clement.
  • MLB Notebook takes a look at the big guns in the free agent market and feels that the Yankees are no longer in a position to set the pace. Rather, they argue that the Angels now control the market.
  • East Windup Chronicle feels that some are underestimating the amount of potential Major League talent playing in Japan, noting the number is "at least 30" and considerably more if they had the opportunity to start in the minors out of high school.
  • Bernies Crew likes the Jorge Julio signing by the Brewers, noting the move gives the team much needed flexibility and depth in the bullpen.

Cork Gaines writes for RaysIndex.com. If you have a suggestion for this feature, Cork can be reached here.

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Rosenthal’s Latest: Byrd, Putz, Wilson

By Tim Dierkes | December 5, 2008 at 8:55am CDT

Rumor machine Ken Rosenthal has a new column…

  • Free agent starters C.C. Sabathia and A.J. Burnett are in no hurry to sign. Makes sense; they’re obviously special compared to the other starters on the market.
  • Nationals owner Ted Lerner "has spent extensive time" with Scott Boras, presumably in regard to Mark Teixeira.
  • The Cubs want to acquire their left-handed hitting outfielder before worrying about Jake Peavy.  Rosenthal says the trade market is bleak, suggesting free agents such as Raul Ibanez and Milton Bradley might make sense.  As we’ve said, there is no perfect fit for the Cubs’ right field vacancy (unless Brian Giles will waive his no-trade clause).
  • Paul Byrd is "virtually certain" to decline Boston’s offer of arbitration.  He aims to pitch near his Atlanta home – the Braves, Marlins, or Rays could work for him.
  • A Rosenthal source pegged Jon Garland’s chance of accepting arbitration at less than 50-50.  ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick recently indicated it was 75-25 he’d decline.  Buster Olney says "some executives are stunned" that Garland will seemingly not accept.
  • Rosenthal spoke to officials from two teams interested in Mariners closer J.J. Putz.  The Ms haven’t decided yet whether to make him available, contrary to a previous report.  Jack Zduriencik apparently doesn’t consider his club in rebuild mode.
  • The Giants’ signing of Edgar Renteria: "widely panned in industry circles."  Joel Sherman found the same consensus.  This differs from the web, where Keith Law and Dave Cameron liked it.
  • Rosenthal says the Dodgers are not pursuing Jack Wilson; those talks broke down earlier in the offseason.  Who to believe?  He says the Tigers are making a "more serious push."
  • Phillies shortstop prospect Jason Donald is a popular trade target, but the Phils might need him to fill in for Chase Utley at the start of the season.
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Jack Wilson Rumors: Thursday

By Tim Dierkes | December 4, 2008 at 11:35pm CDT

11:35pm: One more dose of Wilson rumors before we close up shop for the evening.

Dejan Kovacevic does not agree with Jackson’s report.  Kovacevic says the Dodgers and Pirates began a fresh round of talks for Wilson on Saturday.  What’s more, Wilson is open to renegotiating his contract to facilitate a trade to the Dodgers.  The Dodgers might be willing to give Wilson $12MM over 2009-10.

Talks have been going on with the Tigers for over a month, and Detroit made a fresh offer Wednesday night that caught the Pirates’ attention.  The Bucs may have an eye on Tigers first base prospect Jeff Larish.

7:42pm: Tony Jackson at the Daily News says the Dodgers haven’t talked to the Pirates in months, and "are NOT in pursuit of Jack Wilson." This directly contradicts today’s report from the Associated Press.

5:02pm: MLB.com’s Jason Beck is getting mixed signals on the chances of a Wilson-to-Detroit deal.

3:52pm: The AP has more on the Wilson trade talks.  They say the Dodgers have been in extensive talks for Wilson this week, but want the Pirates to pick up "a substantial share of his salary."  Meanwhile the Tigers would need the Bucs to absorb most of the contract.  The report suggests the Tigers have moved on to free agent Adam Everett.

2:30pm: Jenifer Langosch talked to Wilson, who said he’s open to revising his no-trade list.  He doesn’t seem likely to veto a trade.  Meanwhile, Graziano still trusts his source.

12:41pm: Jon Paul Morosi’s source says the Tigers’ talks for Wilson have become "more active and meaningful" recently.

12:14pm: Dejan Kovacevic talked to Pirates president Frank Coonelly, who said Wilson has not been traded.  The Tigers apparently made an interesting offer last night for Wilson, but the Dodgers remain in the mix.  Wilson would have to approve a trade to the Tigers, and he and his agent haven’t been informed of anything.

11:15am: According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Tigers acquired shortstop Jack Wilson from the Pirates today.  We’ll update the post as more info comes in.

Wilson, 31 later this month, hit .272/.312/.348 in 330 plate appearances this year while playing his typical excellent defense.  He’s set to earn $7.25MM in ’09 and has an $8.4MM club option for ’10 with a $600K buyout.

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Perrotto’s Latest: Dye, Jenks, Werth, Madson

By Tim Dierkes | December 4, 2008 at 8:25am CDT

THURSDAY: David Lennon of Newsday talked to a source who said there’s "nothing there" in regard to the rumor of a Dye and Jenks to the Mets blockbuster. Joel Sherman talked to a few Mets officials who called the rumor nonsense.  Sherman says Martinez is "all but untouchable."

WEDNESDAY: Let’s dig into the latest column from John Perrotto of Baseball Prospectus.

  • Perrotto speaks of whispers of a possible White Sox-Mets blockbuster.  The Mets would receive Jermaine Dye and Bobby Jenks and the White Sox would receive Fernando Martinez among others.
  • Regarding the Orioles’ possible involvement in a trade that would send Jake Peavy to the Cubs, Perrotto says Baltimore seeks Ronny Cedeno and Felix Pie from Chicago.
  • Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. has spoken to outfielder Jayson Werth and setup man Ryan Madson about contract extensions.  Madson might be a tough one as he’s represented by Scott Boras (who recently compared him to Mariano Rivera).  Both players are under team control for one more season.
  • The Red Sox are considering free agents Willie Bloomquist, Jay Payton, and Mark Loretta as possible bench additions.  A return to Boston seems to be Payton’s preference.
  • Perrotto believes the only player seriously considering accepting arbitration is Darren Oliver.  Oliver’s already seen the Reds drop out of the mix due to the draft pick price.
  • Perrotto says the Tigers and Orioles are showing interest in Jack Wilson, while the Dodgers have backed off.
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Pirates Get Last Crack At Mientkiewicz

By Tim Dierkes | December 3, 2008 at 11:52pm CDT

Dejan Kovacevic talked to free agent first baseman Doug Mientkiewicz recently.  Mientkiewicz seeks a starting job, even while admitting, "I’m everybody’s B and C plan.  If the two guys they want to sign get hit by a truck, then they think about me." 

The 34 year-old hit .277/.374/.379 in 334 plate appearances while playing an above average first base.  He earned $1.075MM.  The Pirates want him back, but in a utility/clubhouse leader type role.  Pirates president Frank Coonelly said today, "We are working hard to convince Doug that returning to the Pirates is an outstanding opportunity for him."  Out of gratitude to GM Neal Huntington for giving him a shot this year, Mientkiewicz will give the Pirates a call before he signs anywhere else. 

Kovacevic also has an update on the Jack Wilson trade talks.  He says the Bucs are focused on the Dodgers, seeking Chin-Lung Hu and Delwyn Young.  Ken Rosenthal wrote earlier today that the Dodgers’ talks for Wilson "remain stalled," while John Perrotto said L.A. "backed off."

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Dodgers Starting With Infield

By Tim Dierkes | December 3, 2008 at 7:43pm CDT

More from Ken Rosenthal.  The FOX hot stove guru says the Dodgers plan to sort out their infield before worrying about starting pitching.  They can use Blake DeWitt at second or third, but that still leaves them two infielders short.

Casey Blake is the obvious free agent fit at the hot corner; maybe the Dodgers will stretch and give him that third year.  If they miss out on Blake they could always go for Joe Crede.  It doesn’t sound like Ned Colletti plans to sign any of the top three free agent shortstops, while talks have stalled for Jack Wilson.  Just wondering, how about a trade for Miguel Tejada or Jason Bartlett?

Rosenthal sees plenty of starting pitching options for the Dodgers, tossing out names like Randy Wolf and Randy Johnson.  Meanwhile Tom Krasovic says the Dodgers are gathering information on Johnson, Andy Pettitte, and Trevor Hoffman.  Ken Gurnick adds Russ Springer to the mix.  The Dodgers are searching for a veteran who can help the team’s young pitchers.

Rosenthal considers re-signing Manny Ramirez a longshot, meaning the Dodgers may have to turn to another free agent like Adam Dunn to replace his OBP and power.

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Odds and Ends: Griffey, Springer, Hoffman

By Tim Dierkes | December 3, 2008 at 3:14pm CDT

Links for Wednesday…

  • Common misconception Joe and I keep running into: signing one of the 15 Type A free agents who were offered arbitration will only cost the signing team one draft pick.  The player’s old team also gets a second pick, but it doesn’t come from the new team.  It’s just squeezed into the supplemental round.  Check out a deeper explanation here.
  • Nuggets from a Frank Coonelly chat: he expects the Pirates to make room on the 40-man roster for a potential Rule 5 addition, and they’d still like to re-sign Doug Mientkiewicz.
  • Pirates pitcher Jason Davis looks like a non-tender candidate.
  • Twins manager Ron Gardenhire doesn’t have Delmon Young in his preferred starting outfield.
  • The Cubs signed pitcher Chad Fox to a minor league deal.
  • Ken Griffey Jr.’s agent Brian Goldberg says he’s fine with DHing but is capable of playing the field.  Goldberg thinks Junior can bounce back and have a 30 home run season.
  • Click here to listen to free agent reliever Russ Springer talk to The ITD Morning After radio show on 1380 AM.  He’s gotten calls from teams in both leagues, including "World Series participants."  Springer is known to be on the Phillies’ radar.
  • Recently I talked to Sarah Small of the Daily Illini.
  • SI.com’s Tom Verducci looks at the supposed shortstop revolution that seems to have petered out.
  • Dave Cameron respects the Astros’ signing of Mike Hampton.
  • Tony Jackson says the Dodgers offered a minor league deal to Juan Castro.
  • Royals GM Dayton Moore did a Q&A with fans at MLB.com.  His priority is adding right-handed relief help after trading Leo Nunez and Ramon Ramirez.  Also, he says Mark Teahen is "more important to our team today then he was in all of 2008 — and he was very important to our team in ’08."
  • McCovey Chronicles is skeptical of all the teams blaming the economy.
  • Drunk Jays Fans predicts Kevin Mench’s Japan experience.
  • Jesse Spector looks at comparable pitchers for C.C. Sabathia.
  • Trevor Hoffman may meet with the Mets soon.  Also, Mets COO Jeff Wilpon spoke of "addition by subtraction" yesterday.
  • East Windup Chronicle disputes a Richard Griffin column.
  • The Phillies are still willing to sign Type A free agents who were offered arbitration, such as Raul Ibanez or Juan Cruz.
  • Evan Grant’s latest Rangers mailbag, always a good read.
  • Joe Sheehan discusses various poor arbitration decisions by teams.
  • Minor league deals for the Mets: Nelson Figueroa, Adam Bostick, and Rene Rivera.  Marty Noble adds Andy Green.
  • Rany Jazayerli figures Mark Grudzielanek agreed in advance to reject the Royals’ offer of arbitration.
  • As usual, ESPN will be all over the Winter Meetings.  I’m told they’ll be doing daily Baseball Tonight specials and will have a team of seven on the scene in Vegas.
  • ESPN’s Peter Gammons says the free agent and trade markets are flooded with corner/DH type bats.  There will be bargains.
  • Bruce Miles thinks Milton Bradley would be a nice match for the Cubs.  The biggest issue would be his ability to play right field every day.
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Pirates Talking To Turnbow

By Tim Dierkes | December 3, 2008 at 10:57am CDT

According to Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pirates are in talks with free agent reliever Derrick Turnbow.  Kovacevic notes that Turnbow stopped pitching in July this year due to a slight labrum tear.  Turnbow, 31 in January, hasn’t shown any control since 2005.

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Tigers Rumors: Renteria, Wilson, Zaun, Treanor

By Tim Dierkes | December 2, 2008 at 10:01am CDT

Jon Paul Morosi of the Detroit Free Press has the latest on the Tigers.

  • GM Dave Dombrowski wasn’t sure Edgar Renteria would turn down an offer of arbitration, and he didn’t feel two draft picks were worth the risk.
  • Discussions with the Pirates regarding Jack Wilson are ongoing, but concrete proposals have yet to be exchanged.
  • The Tigers have interest in free agent catcher Gregg Zaun.  Zaun, 38 in April, hit .237/.340/.359 in 288 plate appearances this year while earning $3.75MM.
  • Morosi adds that the Tigers also like Marlins catcher Matt Treanor, but no deal is imminent.  MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro wrote yesterday that the Marlins are shopping Treanor.  He speculated that the Fish could be setting themselves up to sign Ivan Rodriguez.
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At Least Four Teams Interested In Loretta

By Tim Dierkes | December 1, 2008 at 1:42pm CDT

According to ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick, at least four teams are interested in free agent infielder Mark Loretta.  Among them: the Phillies, Pirates, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers.  The Pirates have talked to Loretta’s agent twice.

Crasnick figures the Astros won’t offer Loretta arbitration this time around; he accepted last year.  He lost his case but still earned $2.75MM.  The 37 year-old hit .280/.350/.383 in 297 plate appearances while playing a below-average second base and an above-average third base.

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