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Padres Prefer To Avoid Rental Players

By Tim Dierkes | July 12, 2010 at 9:53am CDT

Padres GM Jed Hoyer would much prefer to acquire players under control beyond 2010, reports Tim Sullivan of the San Diego Union Tribune.  It's a preference Hoyer shares with Giants GM Brian Sabean, who came right out and said "we are not interested in free agents" on June 30th.

The Padres share another desire with their division-rival Giants: both clubs are looking for a bat.  Padres director of minor league operations Mike Wickham explained to Sullivan, "We have to do something to give us a chance to score more runs, knowing our pitching is (probably) going to regress a little bit. And we don't have to give away the farm to do it."

This is my speculation, but it seems likely that Hoyer and Sabean are inquiring on many of the same players.  David DeJesus, Jose Bautista, Corey Hart, and Josh Willingham could be matches for either club.

So far free agent Jermaine Dye has been linked to the Padres but not the Giants.  Dye may not be controllable beyond this year, but he'd only cost money.  Another player recently on the Padres' radar: Cliff Lee.  Hoyer apparently inquired, but Sullivan says the Padres' GM was "dismissed with some variation of, 'Go away, kid, you bother me.'" 

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42 Comments

  1. John

    15 years ago

    What team doesn’t want more then just a rental?

    Reply
    • Tim Dierkes

      15 years ago

      I think plenty of teams are more open to grabbing a guy for two months than the Padres and Giants appear to be.

      Reply
    • J228

      15 years ago

      Texas seems to come to mind for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on….

      Reply
    • J228

      15 years ago

      Texas seems to come to mind for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on….

      Reply
  2. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    If Padres did inquire on Lee, I wonder what their offer was?

    Reply
  3. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    If Padres did inquire on Lee, I wonder what their offer was?

    Reply
  4. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    Pads are going to go blow all the Cash Considerations we got for Sean Gallagher lol

    Reply
    • websoulsurfer

      15 years ago

      All 50-100k. They didn’t get much.

      Reply
  5. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    Pads are going to go blow all the Cash Considerations we got for Sean Gallagher lol

    Reply
  6. Guest

    15 years ago

    Man, it would be awesome if they could deal (the Padres) for Jayson Werth! I’d take Corey Hart, Willingham or Dejesus!

    However, Cunningham sure looks good right now! But.. I do not expect him to carry a team in the playoff hunt.

    Reply
    • jdub220

      15 years ago

      You’d be better off with Willingham.
      He’d cost much less, and is 4th in the NL in wOBA. He can flat-out swing the bat.
      He deserved to be an All Star this year. It could be a really good trade for the Padres.

      Reply
      • Guest

        15 years ago

        He’s a stud at the plate no doubt. I like him, Ross, Hart and Werth even though that is probably not as realistic. I would DEF prefer the Padres to get a right handed hitting outfielder with power.

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      • websoulsurfer

        15 years ago

        31 year old Willingham is having a decent season but certainly nothing to write home about. He would cost the Padres a substantial amount of runs defensively.

        Hairston hits 15-17 hr PT, Willingham hits mid 20’s FT.

        Its a marginal improvement. If all you have to give up is a marginal prospect then I guess its worth it.

        Much rather see Werth and I think it will take less to get Werth than Willingham.

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        • jdub220

          15 years ago

          Uh, yeah. He’s had a great year. Again, 4th in wOBA and actually has positive UZR this year. Already a career high, with 3.2 WAR. That’s 12th in the NL. He’s having much, much more than “a decent season”.

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      • websoulsurfer

        15 years ago

        31 year old Willingham is having a decent season but certainly nothing to write home about. He would cost the Padres a substantial amount of runs defensively.

        Hairston hits 15-17 hr PT, Willingham hits mid 20’s FT.

        Its a marginal improvement. If all you have to give up is a marginal prospect then I guess its worth it.

        Much rather see Werth and I think it will take less to get Werth than Willingham.

        Reply
    • websoulsurfer

      15 years ago

      In conversations with SF and Atlanta for Hart, the Brewers were asking for a young major league pitcher they could control for at least 4 years. Sanchez and Jurrjens were the names floated. They also wanted at least two additional prospects. Padres don’t have that to give unless they are willing to part with Latos and I dont see that happening.

      Padres FO staff were sitting with Phillies FO staff at Futures game. Does it mean anything? Doubtful, but I can hope it means Werth would be traded for as a rental.

      Reply
    • websoulsurfer

      15 years ago

      In conversations with SF and Atlanta for Hart, the Brewers were asking for a young major league pitcher they could control for at least 4 years. Sanchez and Jurrjens were the names floated. They also wanted at least two additional prospects. Padres don’t have that to give unless they are willing to part with Latos and I dont see that happening.

      Padres FO staff were sitting with Phillies FO staff at Futures game. Does it mean anything? Doubtful, but I can hope it means Werth would be traded for as a rental.

      Reply
  7. ryan619

    15 years ago

    I would be happy with any of those players but…josh willingham would be my pick!! dude just rakes!!

    Reply
  8. basemonkey

    15 years ago

    Excellent, Tim.

    I consider it good reporting when one specifically makes it clear when they are speculating, and when they aren’t. Which you did here. There’s nothing wrong with making educational guesses, esp. by folks as informed as on this board, but when real facts and speculation gets mixed up together, everyone loses credibility.

    Reply
  9. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    If Pads do bring in a power hitter hopefully it’s a guy who hits extra long homers… My 2 fav long shots of the recent past… Canseco going upper upper upper deck in Toronto and
    Richie Sexon in AZ hitting one Off his own face on the Jumbo tron in Center…that was sweet

    Reply
    • Guest

      15 years ago

      Both in the Mitchell Report lol I kid I kid..

      Reply
  10. TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    15 years ago

    Mickey… Who do you think they Pads will trade if we do try to get Dejesus or Hart or Werth even? Bell? Adams? Prospects?

    Reply
    • Guest

      15 years ago

      Adams has a strained oblique, not sure how serious yet. I’m not totally sold that they are going to part with Bell because of their pos. in the Nl West race, (and the recent over use of the pen) its really tough to speculate. Bell is obviously the bigger chip but there has been inquiries on some of the minor league prospects too, so who knows, Jed.. maybe lol

      I do not see a starting pitcher dealt from our current roster. Sampson possibly, Adams, Bell, J. Decker possibly, Mujica we have some guys that would be potential “chips”. I doubt Stauffer but possibly. I just do not see the Padres dealing a pitcher like Stauffer when they are currently looking for starting pitching depth to reduce the work load on the young pitchers, Webb, Latos, Gregerson, LeBlanc etc.

      So.. I could see a potential package of one of our pen guys and either an arm in the minors and a hitter, like a Decker that may or may not profile to the Padres likings of “playing Petco into an advantage”.

      Reply
      • Tim Valencia

        15 years ago

        definitely agree with you about Decker being a possible trade chip. Seems like we are coveting more athletic players than the other. I think pitching comes to the forefront with Hairston heating up at the end of the break and cunningham looking like a solid contributor, also with Adams being a serious ? we will probably hold onto stauffer like you said. Guthrie is looking more and more viable, with possible a Podsednik or Dejesus

        Reply
        • Guest

          15 years ago

          Agreed on all points. I think they could very well add a lead off type player also, like a Pod. Or Dejesus. I think Guthrie is VERY realistic. I DEF see a trade with the O’s regardless.

          Reply
  11. Padres_Fan_2010

    15 years ago

    Padres need to get someone like David DeJesus, Jose Bautista, Corey Hart, Jayson Werth, or Josh Willingham…also the padres could get scott podsesnik for a “low level” prospect…outfield help in Left or Center Field…however i don’t think scott can play Center Field…get someone either in 1 of the 5 and give up some pitchers like stauffer or someone in the minors…they also need 1 more pitcher to get into contention to save Latos’s innings

    Reply
    • disgruntledreader

      15 years ago

      The Padres already have at least three fourth outfielders on their roster… there is no need in the world for them to get Podsednik.

      Reply
      • marinest21

        15 years ago

        Podsednik is hitting better than any Padres outfielder (except for Cunningham who has far fewer ABs) and is tied for 5th in all of MLB in SB’s. He would be hitting lead off and starting in center field for the rest of the year.

        Reply
        • Tim Valencia

          15 years ago

          actually he is a dave roberts clone and probably more projectable in LF

          Reply
          • marinest21

            15 years ago

            That may be true, but I wouldn’t take Scott Hairston out of the lineup just because of his power. Dude rakes in Petco. Unless you put Cunningham in center, Podsednik will most likely be the guy. No Denorfia, No TG Jr. At least not starting anyway.

            I would be happy with an outfield of: Podsednik in either left or center, with Hairston, Venable and Cunningham vying for the other two spots. Cunningham’s hitting well and has great speed, Venable has pop, speed, and plays good defense, and Hairston can always drop the long ball, and has been hitting for a pretty good average as of late.

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          • marinest21

            15 years ago

            That may be true, but I wouldn’t take Scott Hairston out of the lineup just because of his power. Dude rakes in Petco. Unless you put Cunningham in center, Podsednik will most likely be the guy. No Denorfia, No TG Jr. At least not starting anyway.

            I would be happy with an outfield of: Podsednik in either left or center, with Hairston, Venable and Cunningham vying for the other two spots. Cunningham’s hitting well and has great speed, Venable has pop, speed, and plays good defense, and Hairston can always drop the long ball, and has been hitting for a pretty good average as of late.

            Reply
        • Tim Valencia

          15 years ago

          actually he is a dave roberts clone and probably more projectable in LF

          Reply
      • websoulsurfer

        15 years ago

        or DeJesus.

        Reply
      • websoulsurfer

        15 years ago

        or DeJesus.

        Reply
  12. SalvadorM

    15 years ago

    padres fan here, hey Kansas City what do want for DeJesus?

    Reply
    • Guest

      15 years ago

      Probably a lot more than the Padres are wiling to give up, jus sayin…

      Reply
  13. websoulsurfer

    15 years ago

    Jed Hoyer has already said in two other interviews that the Padres are seeking a FREE AGENT PITCHER and a bat they can control for several years.

    Reply
  14. websoulsurfer

    15 years ago

    Jed Hoyer has already said in two other interviews that the Padres are seeking a FREE AGENT PITCHER and a bat they can control for several years.

    Reply
  15. websoulsurfer

    15 years ago

    Podsednik would cost the Padres about 9 runs with his slightly below average defense. Venable, Hairston and Cunningham all have as good or better wOBA and more power while playing substantially better defense.

    When Will Venable returns frm the DL Cunningham will play RF, Venable & Gwynn will platoon in CF. LF is Hairston’s to lose.

    Reply
  16. websoulsurfer

    15 years ago

    Podsednik would cost the Padres about 9 runs with his slightly below average defense. Venable, Hairston and Cunningham all have as good or better wOBA and more power while playing substantially better defense.

    When Will Venable returns frm the DL Cunningham will play RF, Venable & Gwynn will platoon in CF. LF is Hairston’s to lose.

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