The Yankees plan to offer Derek Jeter a contract of at least three years, possibly by the end of the week, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Jon Heyman of SI.com and Sherman both suggest the Yankees' initial offer will likely be worth roughly $45MM (Twitter link). However, Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork reported yesterday that the Yankees would be happy to agree to a three-year $63MM deal.
Sherman suggests the Yankees might be willing to increase their offer to the $57-60MM range on a three-year deal and notes that the team could offer a fourth year or an option for a fourth year. According to Matthews, Jeter wants at least a four-year deal and has a preference for a five or six-year contract.
At least one person in the Yankees front office wants the team to draw a hard line with Jeter, Matthews reported. Sherman finds it "very possible" that the Yankees will make an offer and tell Jeter to beat it on the open market if he doesn't like it. The Yankees insist that they'll be offering a baseball contract. Yankees president Randy Levine told reporters that Jeter's contract "isn't a licensing deal or commercial rights deal."
I’d love to see Jeter out on the free market trying to find takers for more than 3 years and north of $15 million per.
Lol, I know right?
I’ve been a dyed-in-pinstripes Yankee fan since I was a little kid watching Chris Chambliss and Reggie Jackson, and I’ll go y’all one better: I wouldn’t mind seeing Jeter in another uniform. He’s in *steep* decline, and everybody knows it with the possible exception of him. The Yankees don’t win championships by making bad-baseball decisions, and they don’t need Jeter’s star-power to fill their seats.
I’m glad at least one person in the FO is willing to take a hard line with Jeter. He wants a 5-6 year deal? bwahahahahahaha is he serious?
Cashman should have made Arod try to get his deal on the open market as well.
Cashman’s hands were tied when it came to Arod. He was overruled and didn’t reallyh have anything to do with the new Arod deal.
right why would they increase what they offering…he’s not going to get more on the open market…it’s crazy…this is the sofest hardball negotiations i’ve seen short of the Arod deal…
I would like to see the Yanks get Beltre put him at third move Arod to short and let Jeter walk
I think it’s funny. Last night, the negotiations were said to be like a game of chicken. Jeter will get the years that he wants, even if he isn’t the premium shortstop that he once was. Even if the Yankees aren’t the ones to give them too him, some team will, simply because Derek Jeter is valuable as more than a baseball player – he’s a money maker. Even then, I can see his numbers rebounding a bit in the National League.
Throw Jeter on any NL team besides maybe the Phillies or the Reds and his numbers will diminish greatly.
He’s spent his whole career being protected by hall of famers or total sluggers, and that wouldn’t happen on any NL team.
Hm. Good point.
Aside from the possiblity of Posada, who in the Yankees lineup (prior to 2004 when A-Rod and Sheffield came), was a hall of famer? Bernie isn’t, Knoblauch isn’t, Tino isn’t, O’Neill isn’t, Brosious isn’t.
And I don’t mean A-Rod and Sheff are HOFers but I mean these so called “total sluggers” that you are referring to. Sure some had good years in pinstripes for a few years, but none are hall of famers by any means
hall of famers OR sluggers. wade boggs, jason giambi, a-rod, tex, sheff, i could go on and on and on.
Boggs was Jeters teammate for 1 year, horrible example.You can make such a stupid argument for a lot of players but I don’t want to waste my time doing that, since as I said, it’s stupid to argue about.
So another team would give him 5-6 years of at least 18-20m per year? hahaha were?
If the Yankees aren’t going to give him that over 4 – 5 years, no one will, which is why I left money out of my post. Do I think it’s that unrealistic that another team would give him four years? No.
Luckily, as a true Yankee, Jeter only cares about winning and “playing the game the right way.” Because of that, he’ll probably end up taking a major paycut for the benefit of the team.
He might even be willing to change defensive positions or move down in the batting order if it will make the team better.
What “true Yankee” do you know of that has taken a major paycut for the benefit of the team?
none. but derek jeter is the captain. he plays the game the right way, and has the spirit of a champion.
if you hadn’t noticed, he is different than every other baseball player in that regard.
Haha, whatever you say, champ.
obviously you know nothing about baseball.
Or sarcasm.
The “spirit of a champion”? Oh give me a f’in break! This is the biggest load of Disney crap I’ve ever read in my life. You’re fawning over the ‘image’ of Derek Jeter – one that’s been constructed by him, his agent, the Yankees and sports media.
yikes, dude. say it with me: sar-cas-m
I’ve got 189 million reasons to disagree.
Really? I’d love to hear them all. Care to list?
Someone seriously “liked” this?
More than one person…I cant believe it either.
Jason Varitek is the captain too…And you’re really going to move Jeter from SS?? he has like 5 GOLD GLOVES there!!
Funniest. Quote. Ever.
puke
He’ll end up taking a major paycut, not for the benefit of the team, but because baseball economics say so. He’s not going to get anything close to what even the Yankees offer on the open market.
I agree. Jeter is a class act and a born Yankee. His dream was to always play for the Yankees, and I can’t see him playing for anyone else, even if it means a paycut. That being said, my allegiance is to the Yankees, but Jeter will always remain my favorite active player.
On the other hand, I don’t think this one’s sarcasm. Have at it, folks!
Jete just needs to suck it up, take the three-year deal and call it a day. 5-6 year deal is absolutely outrageous. I do not want to see a 42-43 year old short stop playing on the Yankees. Jete can hit (minus this years performance), but he isn’t someone I want in the DH position when we could have so many other DH opportunities. What does he expect them to do, guy needs to wake up and retire as a Yankee in 3 years.
I really hope they just tell him to walk if he wont take what they offer…which is going to be way more than he is worth IMO
Thats right…really if they offered him two years at 15 mill who else would offer that…i wish they would offer him 1 year 15 mill with mutual options for 3 years declining in each year…10 then 7.5 the 5…because i don’t think another team offers him 2 years and more than 15 mill…especially if he had a 5 mill buyout…then they should just wait him out…and send that as signal of a change in philosophy…that they will pay great free agents what it takes to get them but never bid against themselves ever again…it should start with the once great but now fading Jeter…
I am so curious to see how this ends up. I am glad the Yankees are “allegedly” finally realizing they can’t grossly overpay/reward their players to stay in New York. I think they learned with the ARod deal.
Only problem is, I’m not too sure Jeter is the guy to start this change with. Jeter is the one guy who deserves to be overpaid. Sure not a 5 or 6 year deal, but I think he will end up getting the 4 year deal.
His stats may be regressing but in 2009 he was a legitimate MVP candidate. I know he probably won’t return to those numbers but I am hoping he can get them back to slightly under his career norms.
I can understand why he would say, “Hey, look how much you gave AROD, CC, AJ, Posada,etc.” The Yankees need to take this offseason and begin to cut back on these massive contracts.
I say pass on Cliff Lee, make a trade for Wandy Rodriguez, and fill the final rotation spot with Brackman/Nova/Noesi/Phelps etc
Give Banuelos and Betances a chance in 2012 and go from there
You can’t pass on Lee because there are no premier SPs reaching FAs for another 3-4 years.
Why do you need another premier SP? Every other team has only one true ace (exception of maybe Philly…San Fran is close, TB is not far off maybe in a year or two, and Boston is close). A rotation built around CC, Hughes, Andy, Burnett, and Nova is really quite good. Give the young arms a chance, it is the only way to really see what you have on the farm. I don’t really get this “need” language everyone keeps throwing around regarding the Yankees starting rotation. Plus, within the next 3-4 years, the following premier pitchers are FA: Doc, Oswalt, Grienke, Lincecum, Lester (though team option for ’14), Santana, Carpenter, Buerhle, and Brian Tallet. Just to name a few. Now not all will make it to FA, but some will. Tallet might even be available this summer.
damn yo someone better get on Tallet and sign him up quick!
“Plus, within the next 3-4 years, the following premier pitchers are FA: Doc, Oswalt, Grienke, Lincecum, Lester (though team option for ’14), Santana, Carpenter, Buerhle, and Brian Tallet”.
Yanks have a mandate to compete every year. They are not as desperate for pitching this year as they were the year they signed CC and AJ but right now they have CC, AJ and Hughes under contract. Who knows when or what Pettitte will decide.
As for the “next 3-4 years, the following premier pitchers are FA: Doc, Oswalt, Grienke, Lincecum, Lester (though team option for ’14), Santana, Carpenter, Buerhle, and Brian Talle”t. Doc will be 38 during his 2015 season, Oswalt will be 35 when he’s a FA, Greinke doesn’t want to pitch in NY, Lester and Lincecum are interesting but who know’s if they’ll reach FA and even if they do they’ll be expensive, Santana has had 2 arm related surgeries in the last 2 years and will be 34-35 when he hits FA, Carpenter will be 37, Buerhle isn’t a true ace and Tallet….not even shure why you bothered to mention him.
Signing Cliff Lee is the best thing the Yanks can do for their future. It protects the kids on the farm from being traded for another FOR guy and it buys them another year @ AA/AAA to mature. Pettitte already said that if he comes back in 2011 it will be his last year. AJ’s contract is done by 2014 and maybe Banuelos will have worked himself into the rotation by then?
Brian Tallet? You mean the guy with just 30 starts and a 5.67 ERA over the past two seasons?
I guess it doesn’t take much to be a “premier pitcher” any more…
Just looked at the 2012 list. The only notable names are Oswalt and Wainwright, although Wainwright has a club option and you know St. Louis is going to pick that up. Carpenter is too and he has a club option as well.
Jo – you are correct – need to work on pitching – starters and bullpen – Starters like Josh Johnson, Tommy Hanson, Gavin Floyd, Rodriquez, Etc. Bullpen – Putz, Raush,
Wandy is a NL West Pitcher it’s probably the weakest hitting division…so i don’t tust him…i would feel more secure with Jeremy Guthrie and none of the minor leaguers have eye popping numbers so they are probably a year away and i don’t think any of them will true aces like Lee…
Wandy is in The NL Central.
your right…second weakest division in baseball…
In Wandy’s defense i think he would fare pretty good in pin stripes, im an Astros fan and ive seen him these past couple of years that have been good for him. If you plug him in behind CC, burnett, Hughes, and pettite he would be pretty good. He rarely lets things get to him like pressure and other things like that like he used to do. NL Central is pretty weak offensively but he has held his own against Pujols and some of the better hitters in the Central.
agreed. The Astros may look to move him because he is getting close to free agency. They have matched up with the Yankees in the past (Berkman).
The Yanks don’t need every single superstar. Wandy is an under rated pitcher that in my opinion would be worth signing as opposed to Lee. Sure Lee is a Cy Young winner, but Wandy could hold us over until Betances/Banuelos and possibly Brackman are ready.
Sorry…but i don’t see any of those prospects becoming #1 starters…If they can’t match up with Lincecum and Cain…or Halladay and Oswalt…or Bucholzt and Lester…not mention to each of those teams have real good #3 starters then…bringing up those prospects will not get the Yanks where they want to be…these guys are projected #3 4 or 5 type starters…and Wandy is probably a low 2 or solid #3…so he also doesn’t compare to Lee.
ok…i can go with that if the Yanks get Lee and Pettitte doesn’t come back…then a trade for Wandy makes more sense…but not in replacement of Lee…Boston’s rotation and lineup is too good and the Jays and Orioles are improving…and the Rays have a good farm that may sustain them for a couple more years…If the Yanks gambel on young arms like they did with Hughes and Kennedy in 08…they might end up on the outside looking in come playoff time…
This season the NL West had a better overall winning percentage than the NL Central, AL Central, or AL West. Technically, it was the 3rd strongest division in baseball. It’s representative also happened to win the World Series.
This varies almost every season, but the reputation of the NL West as weak is definitely undeserved. The NL West also has more wild card winners than the NL East.
point taken…but winning percentage is relative to competition…i’m no stat head but i would dare to venture that the AL east has the best batting average in the league and leads the league in total bases…which is usually why a National league pitcher with good #’s doesn’t do as well in the AL(east) in paticular…and why good AL pitchers usually have better ERA’s and more innings pitched in the National league…
One better sign Beltre move Arod to short and let Jeter walk.
I would like to see the Yanks get Beltre put him at third move Arod to short and let Jeter walk
I think the Yankees need Jeter, but Jeter also needs the Yankees. Jeter holding up the Yankees for 4-6 years does not speak well of the legend. He is not thinking of the organization if he wants to be the shortstop 5 years from now and being paid 15-20 mil to do so. His performance value and or fair market value is so far south of those numbers he should take the 3 yr 60 mil or whatever and thank the Yankees for their generosity. I suppose Chipper Jones said it best, he will play as long as he is physcally able when they pay ridiculous amounts of money. That is paraphrased, not quoted.
How many DH’s will they have in three years making 20+M??????????????
I absolutely love what Jeter has done for the Yankee organization and I can’t understate how imporant and vital he has been, but if he is going to sit here and demand 5-6 years than he can take a hike. He won’t get anywhere even remotely close to that on the open market. Also worth noting that Jeter has been paid extremely well to the tune of 189$ for his services over the past 10 years, so it’s not like the Yankees have been shorting him on dollars. Honestly, even 3 yrs for 60 mil is extremely generous and if Jeter is smart he’d take that rather than sit around and greedily strangle the Yankees and possibly tarnish an otherwise stellar and umblemished career.
3 year contract with 2 or 3 player options years is the only deal that makes sense. You don’t want to have the Yankees decide when to stop playing their “living legend.” Let him go out with class whenever HE’S ready to go, which would most likely be sometime after the 3 years is up. He’s said it himself, whenever he feels he can’t play the game anymore, he’ll retire. This is the only logical way to help the Yankees and Jeter save face in the long-run.
In this day and age, I don’t think teams can pay players until the player decides to retire. The 2015 Yankee infield will require oxygen and wheelchairs to get around. Do you want a 2015 Yankee infield of Arod 40 plus, Cano and Tex 35 plus, Jeter 40 plus?
When is enough, enough? Hes been paid over 200 million by the Yankees to play baseball. Yes, I know hes the captain…the face of the franchise, I get it. For that, hes been paid royally and will continue to be paid royally….overpaid at this point. Despite what some Yankee fans think, hes a very average shortstop at this point in his career and should never have won the gold glove this year. On the open market he would get nowhere near what the Yankees are prepared to give him.
If he demands 5-6 years at 20 million/yr I really hope the Yankees say good bye to him,
The Yankees really have nothing to lose. If Jeter rejects their offer he will look selfish and will quickly realize that there isn’t another team that will even come close to the Yankees offer. The Yankees need to play hardball, and Jeter will eventually come crawling back with his tail between his legs.
3 years/$50M, with a perpetual mutual option for 2014 and beyond for $5M (sort of like Wakefield used to have). If Jeter isn’t a Yankee for life, this sport sucks.
Remember folks, we’re still in the negotiating stages. Just because Jeter wants 4 years plus doesn’t mean he will get it. Just like if the Yankees want to sign him for 3 years 45 million, doesn’t mean that will happen either. I find it funny though that people are outraged that Jeter would want a long term deal, don’t you think he loves playing the game and playing for the Yankees? He might not be able to see his own decline but this is why the Yankees have to reel him in. Either way, it’s still in the early stages of negotiation.
Yankee fans may blast me for this, but if Edgar Renteria isnt worth 10 million per year, then Derek Jeter isnt worth 20, 15 or even 12.5 a year.The two players are more similar than most would expect statistically, however, Jeter holds much more value to the Yankees.If Im Cashman, I offer him 3 yrs @ 45 mill with a 10 million dollar 4th yr option.Nobody would beat that offer on the open market. The majority of baseball people probably view him as a 7-10 million dollar asset this year…and that value only diminishes as he ages.Who is looking to tie up 15-20 million on a 36/37 yr old SS for 4-6 yrs? LOL I mean, seriously…Jeter should shut up and take what he can get. He is being delusional. Life outside of a yankee jersey is significantly more down to earth…Let him test the FA market, so that he can come back to terms with the value of a dollar.
Jeter isn’t worth anywhere near $20 mil based on his numbers but he is still fat better than Renteria. Better speed, better OBP, higher bat avg and more power. Aside from below avg range and them both being overpaid I’m not sure how they are similar.
They both join David Eckstein in the “Shortstops with Two or More Rings in the Last 15 Years” club.
Truth is the Yankees signing Jeter for anytime past one year means they decrease their odds of going to the WS…at ss or if they decide to move him to 3rd after 2011 or anywhere on the field…imagine if they don’t pick up Swisher after his club option and they go with Jeter in (rf) the Yankees get weaker by keeping him…and the attitude of all the fans are going to change about him as he becomes a senior citizen before their eyes…I don’t know why people can’t see it coming…every fan should be saying 1 year deal or make a trade for a ss and let him walk…records of singal players should not be more important than the success of the team…and he will decrease the success of the team…period…after the 3000 hit hype…what will the Yanks have left…a fading short stop.declining in Xtra base hits in steals in range in arm strength in everything…
Weak Players don’t sell tickets…go out as a icon and your Jesey sells as such…decline as an overpaid ss taking space on the field and in the line up…and people start to boo you everytime you step up to the plate…the same fans that want him for 4 plus years at 20 mill…will turn off the tv or go to the bathroom when he comes up in those later years…
Six year deal structured this way:
2 years @ $20MM
2 years @20MM (player option)
2 option years @20MM (mutual option)
For every option year not exercised, 4 personal service years @ 5MM.
So assume he plays only the 2 guaranteed years, then there is a 16 year personal services contract as the “face of the Yankees”, i.e. spring training, appearances, first pitches, etc.
Jeter gets a “6 year $120MM deal”, Yankees get an up to “18 year $120MM” deal.
Both sides save face. If Jeter packs it in after 2 years, the Yankees save the 3rd year guaranteed. If Jeter plays the 4 years (guarantee + player options), he gets his 4th year). As long as he’s still productive, both sides win. If he’s not productive in year 4, the Yankees went one year longer, one year too long.
But one thing that I think is worth noting: there is nothing that appears in Jete’s background that points to him as anything but a class act. You can say it is stage managed, PR or anything else, but unlike most (all?) celebrities, not even his former girlfriends, not ONE, has ever publicly said anything bad about him. He’s been in the public eye, in MLB, since 1995. He’s respectful to his family, his managers and coaches, the Yankees and Yankee traditions. Even when he was slammed by A-Rod, he didn’t talk out against him, just merely kept silent and let the furor die down naturally.
Funny thing is the Skankees will only be bidding against themselves. Nobody else wants Jeter
Theres no bidding here. Hes going to play in NY. Hes going to be a Yankee forever. This is negotiating through the press and posturing. Hes greedy. The Yankees are greedy. I doubt that youll see anything negative said by the principals in the deal…just from unnamed sources or reporters who claim to be close to the situation.
There will be a settlement..and soon. It will seem to anyone who watches baseball closely to be a contract that overpays an aging former star because thats exactly what it will be. The Yankees(and I cant believe Im saying this) will come out of this looking like the good guy for wanting to keep him happy. If its dragged out, Jeter will look very bad in the short term but everyone will forget it in a few years.
I can understand the guy wanting the money, but you’d think he’d want to end his career on somewhat of a high note. That won’t happen if he plays for another 5-6 years, IMO.
Jeter doesen’t accept the deal, so be it. Sure everyone is going to critisize the Yankees for not keeping their star SS though he’s in decline. Who will look badder, the Yankees, in an effort to keep their star but trying to handle more urgent affairs and also trying to get younger? Or Derek Jeter, who won’t realize he’s in decline, and would only limit more than the already LIMTED(hear those words… LIMITED) payroll of the Yankees, and not to mention make himself look selfish and unreasonable. You decide. I love you Jeter, but this needs to be handled quickly and not blown out of proportion.