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Zambrano Spoke To Guillen About Joining Marlins

By Zach Links | October 2, 2011 at 12:10pm CDT

Ozzie Guillen and Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano recently spoke on the phone and discussed the possibility of the hurler joining the Marlins, according to Ignacio Serrano of El Nacional (Spanish link).  Serrano spoke with Félix Luzón, a friend of Zambrano's who was present during the call.

Luzón says that nothing is official but a deal could be reached where the Cubs cut the 30-year-old loose and give him the $18MM that he is owed in deferred payments.  Cubs manager Mike Quade recently said that he would ideally like to have Zambrano back in 2012, but didn't sound optimistic about it happening.

Translation of the article was provided by Nick Collias.

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  1. sourbob

    9 years ago

    Quade commenting on which players he would like to have next year is like a guy whose wife is at the divorce lawyer’s office telling you about the pool he thinks they should put in next summer.

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    • chico65

      9 years ago

      Is that why you’re sour, bob?

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    • Sean Matrai

      9 years ago

      Ozzie and Zambrano o this will go well.The Marlins do not need more Drama 

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  2. BVHjays

    9 years ago

    I’ll wait until March to comment on how good I think they’ll be, but isn’t it pretty much certain that the Marlins are going to be the most fun team next year? LoMo, Zambrano, Hanley and Ozzie? Get reality TV cameras in that clubhouse, please!

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    • KornSack

      9 years ago

      showtime is gonna dump the giants for them nxt year lol “The Franchise with The Marlins” haha that be sweet

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    • YanksFanSince78

      9 years ago

      Oh THAT would be must see TV. It would combine two great passions among Latino’s and provide something for both sexes. Baseball themed Novellas. 

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    • Tomahawk237

      9 years ago

      Imagine if Pujols went there too

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  3. Dylan

    9 years ago

    That team would take over twitter.

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  4. Patrick OKennedy

    9 years ago

    How is this not tampering?  Zambrano is under contract with the Marlins.  If Ozzie didn’t get permission, he needs to be fined heavily. 

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    • Pete

      9 years ago

      This is exactly correct. Both Ozzie and Z act like they above the rules of the game all the time, its so annoying. I’d rather neither of them be in the game at all.

      But yes, having a team with a pitcher with clear anger management/emotional issues pairing with a manager who has no idea about anything will be entertaining as all hell for one season until it predictably blows up.

      (sorry for the negativity but theyre both just total clowns in my opinion)

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    • ukJaysfan

      9 years ago

      That was my first reaction too.  Especially since Zambrano is back on the Cubs 40 man.  But then again, Ozzie to the Marlins was just about the worst kept secret ever, so I guess tampering is only a problem if someone is put off by it.  I’m guessing Chicago would do backflips if someone took him off their hands.

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    • zonis

      9 years ago

      This is what I was thinking when I read the article.

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    • BlueCatuli

      9 years ago

      Glad I wasn’t the only one who had this thought.

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    • jpg1200

      9 years ago

      if ozzie wasn’t under contract with the marlins yet when they talked I don’t think it would be tampering

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  5. MilesW

    9 years ago

    *Cubs

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  6. Lunchbox45

    9 years ago

    Tampering??

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    • Jon Stark

      9 years ago

      ya, that was my first thought too. This has to be ruled out by previous CBAs.

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      • Lunchbox45

        9 years ago

        the fact that its Zambrano initiating, maybe the cubs can file a grievance

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  7. johnsilver

    9 years ago

    Lets see.. The Fish hammer Morrison for pretty much harmless talk, yet here is Quillen already stirring the pot with this clubhouse cancer?

    Sit back and get ready fellow Fish Fans.. Our good old friend Tommy Hutton may just retire before the season starts with these bolt heads now in charge, especially talking about bringing in one of his useless, clubhouse tearing buddies into town.

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  8. mmwatkin

    9 years ago

    They need Omar Minaya as their GM 

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  9. jb226

    9 years ago

    All depends on the terms.  The Cubs may well release him either way, but I’m not inclined to pay him MORE money by deferring with interest — especially as the Cubs aren’t likely to be good next year.  I’d rather pay the $18MM to dump him in a year we’re not going to be good and not have any deferred commitments to him when we have a chance to contend and there might be better free agents to look into than this offseason.

    On the other hand if it can be deferred without interest, then that’s something to at least think about.  I’d probably still be inclined toward just getting it over with though.

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  10. Dynasty22

    9 years ago

    The only response to dignify such an possibility is: Lol.

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  11. MadmanTX

    9 years ago

    The Cubs can’t let Z have his way. Either he honors his contract and pitches for Chicago til it ends or they find a way to void the deal.

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    • YanksFanSince78

      9 years ago

      Who’s punishing who then? I don’t think anyone in the Cubs organization would mind not having him around in 2012 despite what Quade had to say.

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  12. Pete

    9 years ago

    I really hope LoMo gets traded soon….preferably to the A’s where he can pair with the young pitchers and Weeks to create a young core, but also with Brandon McCarthy/Braden/Anderson for making fun of Trevor Cahill on twitter.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

       I’d prefer him on the jays

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  13. Hoosierdaddy92

    9 years ago

    See post above

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    • vtadave

      9 years ago

      Ah Vernon….the only guy guy other than Zito in the league that makes Soriano’s contract look halfway decent.

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      • Hoosierdaddy92

        9 years ago

        Fair enough. My thoughts here were mainly that Vernon is a better defender than Soriano and since they are going to wind up paying Soriano anyway, it might as well be for someone that can play the field better with similar pop. Angels could toss in some cash if need be

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  14. bayareabeast

    9 years ago

    i could see it now…ozzie going to take z out when he doesnt want to be and an all out brawl on the pitchers mound. god i hope this happens haha

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  15. hodag435

    9 years ago

    Morrison, Ozzie, Zambrano Oh my!

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  16. Joe Del Negro

    9 years ago

    We knew they were temperamental, but who knew they were tamperamental! Am I right?

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  17. Hoosierdaddy92

    9 years ago

    Thoughts?

    Cubs trade…
    Carlos Zambrano
    Alfonso Soriano

    to the Angels for…
    Bobby Abreu
    Vernon Wells

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    • jb226

      9 years ago

      I don’t see why the Cubs would be interested in that.  It saves the Cubs money in a year they don’t need to save it and then it is a loss to them.  In return they get two outfielders when most of their top prospects are outfielders.  Vernon Wells is even HARDER to move than Soriano would be and–if it’s possible–even less worth the salary.

      The problem with Zambrano will solve itself in one year, max.  I think a good GM can move Soriano this year.  And let’s be honest: No GM in the world is going to want to start his tenure by being the guy who trades for Vernon Wells.

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      • Hoosierdaddy92

        9 years ago

        That’s a solid point. My spin on a move like this is the new regime purging a few of  the lousy moves made by the old management, not “trying to acquire Vernon Wells”.

        I know the Cubs have some solid OF prospects and the fans are eager to see them, but Abreu would just be there for next year. My thinking is that he could possibly build up some value in the first half and they could potentially deal him and Marlon Byrd (both free agents after 2012) at the deadline for some prospects. Then they could give the prospects a chance in CF and RF and save a year of service time for each in the process. The Cubs aren’t likely to contend next year anyway

        As for LF, they are going to wind up paying Soriano for the next three years for slightly above average pop, no walks, and bad defense, they might as well pay Wells for the same thing except better defense and less injure-prone.

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    • JacksTigers

      9 years ago

      Thoughts do not change just because you repost this trade, but this time, without the explanation.

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      • Hoosierdaddy92

        9 years ago

        haha thanks man, I am aware, I just thought people would be more likely to discuss it without having to read the explanation. 

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    • Pete

      9 years ago

      The only way a team takes Vernon Wells in a deal is if Weaver or Haren are coming too, and that’s never going to happen.

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  18. bigpat

    9 years ago

    Sorry if this is harsh, but I really hope Zambrano fails. I’m not going to hope things are better because of a change of scenery, he’s a jerk and doesn’t deserve to play this game and get paid so handsomely for it with his horrible attitude. And it’s not because he may go to the Fish, since people think I have it out for them. 

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  19. Brian Gaul

    9 years ago

    Yeah, let’s make the Marlins the most dysfunctional team in the big leagues …

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  20. goredsgo

    9 years ago

    Ozzie and Big Z. Can uthink of a better duo?

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    • start_wearing_purple

      9 years ago

      Lou Pinella and Milton Bradley?

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    • BlueCatuli

      9 years ago

      Shea Hillenbrand and John Gibbons…

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  21. Tired_OF_FakeRumors

    9 years ago

    Are the marlins trading for milton Bradley and k-rod too?

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  22. paulcatanese

    9 years ago

    If the Cubs are stuck with Zambrano and have to pay the 18 mil in deffered payments I would pay him in rolls of pennies and mail him his salary C.O.D.

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    • BlueCatuli

      9 years ago

      Hahahahaha

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  23. ctothed

    9 years ago

    No chance you cut Zambrano loose and pay him 18 million so he can play for someone else.  If I were GM of the Cubs I would tell him you have four options.  You play for the Cubs, you take a trade, void your contract and go to who you want to,  and your other option will be to sit out the year which if it is your choice then you don’t get paid.

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  24. stewie75

    9 years ago

    zambrano can be a team’s #5 at the worst, and the cubs are sunk with his contract already. just hang onto him and wait for someone to come to you. there are enough bad contracts to match up with around baseball, especially given he’s in the last yr of his contract & it’s a virtual lock we’ll be paying his salary no matter what. denny neagle’s contract didn’t get voided so z’s definitely won’t be either. if he wants to go to miami and guillen wants him too, i’m sure something can be worked out. z, byrd & $20M for coghlan? 

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    • WrigleyTerror37

      9 years ago

      that would be interesting coghlan for big z and byrd. that would give the cubs a lh bat and a 3bman. posable lead off hitter for a club that needs one. i like it but does that work for the fish?

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  25. Mitchell Killian

    9 years ago

    The thought of the Braves facing Zambrano several times a year makes me very happy…

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    • GREGM

      9 years ago

      You all said the same thing about Javy Vazquez last offseason…

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  26. WrigleyTerror37

    9 years ago

    how about Nolasco(sp)?
    cubs pay 8mil and nolascos contract, while the fish pay 10 mil for big z?

    any thoughts on this?

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  27. Red_Line_9

    9 years ago

    I don’t believe Zambrano lived up to his contract with the Cubs and should be compensated.  In my book he broke his contract when he chose actions that led to his suspensions. 

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  28. Red_Line_9

    9 years ago

    Is that considered tampering of Guillen has spoken to a member of another team?

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