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White Sox Underestimated Market For Buehrle

By Zachary Links | November 26, 2011 at 7:40pm CDT

On Wednesday, the White Sox offered arbitration to Type B free agent Mark Buehrle, guaranteeing themselves compensation if he signs elsewhere.  Interest in the left-hander has skyrocketed this winter, with as many as thirteen teams reportedly in the mix for his services.  The White Sox weren't expecting this level of interest for Buehrle as they anticipated five or six teams going after him and a two-year deal being enough to retain him, a source tells Joe Cowley of the Chicago-Sun Times.

With this amount of interest in Buehrle and the Nationals visiting the pitcher at his home in St. Louis this week, it would seem that the White Sox will have to act fast and offer a longer deal to retain him.  Earlier today, nearly 20% of MLBTR readers voted Buerhle as the next big free agent to sign.

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  1. Garrett Gottschalk

    13 years ago

    How come were barely hearing about it then?

    Reply
  2. Encarnacion's Parrot

    13 years ago

    Let’s get excited over a 4+ career FIP pitcher who can’t miss bats! WOOOOOO!!

    Reply
    • vtadave

      13 years ago

      Or we could get excited about a guy who throws 200+ innings EVERY year and who also has been averaging in the range of a 3.5 WAR in recent years.

      Reply
    • Ferrariman

      13 years ago

      when someone makes it into a career trend to constantly outperform their FIP, i stop caring as much about it and look at their concrete numbers, especially with someone as consistent as Buerhle.  You know you’ll get around a 3.75 era with 200+innings, thats what matters.

      Reply
    • lolpods

      13 years ago

      owned

      Reply
  3. john12121212

    13 years ago

    I swear some of these media whores are “clueless”

    Reply
  4. Guest 5951

    13 years ago

    What’d they expect? The best starting pitchers on this years FA market are arguably Buehrle, CJ Wilson, Edwin Jackson, and maybe Yu Darvish (if he gets posted). So naturally a guy like Buehrle is gonna draw a great deal of interest. He’s never pitched fewer than 201 innings his entire career, and has had a respectable FIP for at least 8 of those 11 seasons.

    Never mind that he’s not “elite.” Good, durable innings-eaters like Buehrle are hard to come by.

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    • Ryan Klinkert

      13 years ago

      Yeah I too am perplexed how Kenny Williams didn’t anticipate this amount of interest. If a common fan can Google “2012 MLB free agents” and see how thin the market is, so should a GM of a big market team…

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      • slidingintobase

        13 years ago

        But what difference does it make what they thought the interest would be? He was going to test the market, and the Sox don’t have much to spend this season. Whatever they thought the market would be is really of no consequence. The article doesn’t have much to say.

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      • lolpods

        13 years ago

        the sox always have a “plan”, for lack of a better term, that we eventually find out about that media never knew a damn thing of. i wouldn’t be surprised if he still signs here.

        Reply
  5. saywuh

    13 years ago

    Oh I believe the White Sox knew exactly what they were doing.  They had no plans to sign him for what he made this year, let alone a raise.  They will gladly take their compensation for him unless he takes their low-ball offer.

    Reply
  6. shysox

    13 years ago

    Typical of the White Sox, always clueless about the market.

    Reply
  7. Tom

    13 years ago

    Is it just me are all these “shouldn’t take much to sign” guys getting a ton of attention. Are the top free agents really getting so pricey that their bidding is only among a few teams.

    Reply
  8. AmericanMovieFan

    13 years ago

    Once again the passive aggressive mean spirited know-it-all sarcasm is taking these boards straight down the toilet.

    Having said that I assume it’ll take at least 3 years/$42MM with a $3MM buy out and an option of some sort for $14MM.

    Reply
  9. tsizzle

    13 years ago

    Still bet that he’s not seriously considering even half of these “thirteen teams.” He’s exploring his options, but in the end, it will come down to family and he will stay in the midwest. Everyone else is wasting their time.

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    • legaryd

      13 years ago

      I think the “staying close to family” argument expired as soon as he realized he could get Derek Lowe money (4 years/$60MM) if he went to the highest bidder.

      Reply
      • tsizzle

        13 years ago

        He’s not leaving the midwest, book it.

        Reply
      • lolpods

        13 years ago

        mark’s a different sort of dude. he’s incredibly honest, and if he says something, most sox fans know it’s real talk.

        Reply
    • legaryd

      13 years ago

      I think the “staying close to family” argument expired as soon as he realized he could get Derek Lowe money (4 years/$60MM) if he went to the highest bidder.

      Reply
  10. greenlantern73

    13 years ago

    Cowley is a hack, you can’t believe anything he writes because he’s in love with Ozzie and hates KW.

    Reply
  11. greenlantern73

    13 years ago

    Cowley is a hack, you can’t believe anything he writes because he’s in love with Ozzie and hates KW.

    Reply
  12. Nookster

    13 years ago

    Guess I’m clueless myself, I personally figured Buehrle to be a notch above a batting practice pitcher at this point.

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    • vtadave

      13 years ago

      I believe you figured wrong.

      Reply
    • TDKnies

      13 years ago

      What about his stats scream “batting practice” at you?  The scarily consistent 200+ innings of ~4 ERA and FIP over his career?  Hardly frontline stuff, but that’s exactly what most teams want from a backend starter.  Not gonna take the ball in game 7 of the world series, but he won’t get hurt or meltdown on you in the regular season.

      Reply
    • cedarandstone

      13 years ago

      Not even close.  He’s a left-handed Jeff Suppan.

      Reply
      • ChuckNorris

        13 years ago

        Well, if you are talking about the 2004-2006 Suppan, I believe you are dead-on.

        Reply
  13. Sox72

    13 years ago

    If it was written by Cowley or Phil Rogers, it’s not worth reading.  KW has made his share of mistakes no doubt, but anything written by those 2 usually has an anti-KW slant. 

    Reply
  14. NYPOTENCE

    13 years ago

    White Sox should hire a new GM. DO IT!!!!

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    • User 4245925809

      13 years ago

      Let’s see… They could hire one of my favorite all time announcers, being Hawk Harrelson.. He could scream “put it on the booaarrd… YES!” after every trade.

      Cross town, recently canned GM Jim Hendry is currently without a job also, then not so sure the ChiSox could afford his horrific way of management + style.

      Williams does not look to bad as compared to those 2 now does he?

      Reply
  15. Matt Manzella

    13 years ago

    They didn’t underestimate anything. They were not going to offer him more than two years regardless of the market. Barring a last minute change of heart, we’re going to be seeing Buehrle in a different uniform next year.

    Reply
    • slidingintobase

      13 years ago

      Agreed. The article doesn’t suggest they would have a made a different move if they had thought the interest would be greater, so it really makes no difference. They’ll offer what they’ll offer and he’ll take it or leave it – it was always going to be that way.

      Reply
  16. TartanElk

    13 years ago

    Lol Kenny Williams.

    Reply
    • lolpods

      13 years ago

      lol your face

      Reply
  17. slider32

    13 years ago

    It looks like Buehrle is getting alot of attention from big market teams, so his price is going up everyday. Most teams are going to want to give him 2 years, but he may squeak out 3. Of the top pitchers on the markert he has one of the best track records and seems to be a safe choice. I’m not sure he will help put a top team over the top like Fister did last year.

    Reply
  18. JimBaily

    13 years ago

    Plain and simple, there is no worse GM in baseball than Kenny Williams and it should surprise no one that he didn’t evaluate this situation properly. 

    Reply
    • the_show

      13 years ago

      stupid comment, the guy has flaws but he has won a world series so their are plenty of GMs worse then him

      Reply
    • lolpods

      13 years ago

      typical opinion from someone who forms it based on secondhand information. seriously, if you knew factually about his transaction history, there’s no way a rational person would come to this conclusion.

      Reply
  19. westcoastwhitesox

    13 years ago

    Joe Cowley and a bum off the street could tell me rumors about the White Sox with the same level of credibility.

    Reply
  20. coldgoldenfalstaff

    13 years ago

    Seems to me that the Sox wanted Buehrle back cheap, but the market priced them out.

    Besides, you can’t blame Kenny Williams on the payroll, trade and draft restrictions imposed by owner Jerry Reinsdorf.

    Reply
  21. John Barrett

    13 years ago

    I honestly believe that Buerhle can max out to a contract similar to what Lackey & Beckett got.. 5yr 82.5mill.

    Reply
    • lolpods

      13 years ago

      lol at the team that does that. and i’m a huge buerhle fan.

      Reply
  22. Antonio Nicarelli

    13 years ago

    The true competition here is not between the Sox and other teams.  Rather, it is between Buehrle and Danks.  The Sox know what they can get for trading Danks, and know what it would take to sign him long term.  If the market prices Buehrle above that, then bye bye Mark, and hello to 4 years (give or take) of Danks.  If the market puts MB’s salary about where it is now, then we sign him, trade Danks, and go back to crying over Rios and Dunn.

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