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Phillies In On Aramis Ramirez

By Tim Dierkes | December 5, 2011 at 2:19pm CDT

TUESDAY, 2:19pm: Phillies advisor Pat Gillick met with Ramirez last month in the Dominican Republic, reports Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com.  Gillick also scouted Yoenis Cespedes on the trip, though the Phillies are unlikely to bid.

MONDAY, 9:32am: The Phillies are strong players for free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez, tweets Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post.  MLB.com's Todd Zolecki confirmed the interest, and guesses Ramirez is a backup plan for Jimmy Rollins.  

A week ago, Ramirez's agent Paul Kinzer named the Angels as one of four or five teams with serious interest in his client, and an offer from the Halos seems likely after Ramirez visited the club.  The Brewers are also in the mix.  Kinzer said in November that Ramirez seeks a four-year deal or three-year contract with an option.

The Phillies have third baseman Placido Polanco under contract for 2012, though the 36-year-old had double hernia surgery in October.

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45 Comments

  1. Joe Blanco

    14 years ago

    Who plays short? Don’t say Polanco.

    Reply
    • Joe Blanco

      14 years ago

      Can Aramis Ramirez play first until Ryan Howard comes back?

      Reply
    • EightMileCats

      14 years ago

      It’d have to be Polly. If Aram is 3b… Utley at 2b… That’s the only spot for him

      Reply
      • Phillies_Aces35

        14 years ago

        Chase is a pretty good defensive first baseman.

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        • Michael Shaw

          14 years ago

          Mayberry and Wigginton can both play first base and there’s still a chance Thome can log some innings if necessary before Howard returns. Mayberry and Nix can platoon at LF until Howard is healthy as well. 

          Reply
      • JPH_GSG

        14 years ago

        Polanco can’t play SS. They’d trade him or sit him and he could super-sub. Rollins would most likely be out as an option at SS from a $$ perspective, so it would be Martinez, Valdez, or Galvis. Unless they bid on that Japanese SS, which seems unlikely.

        Reply
  2. Phillies_Aces35

    14 years ago

    Guess they would trade Polanco? No real reason to have him AND Wigginton. There’s plenty of teams that need a 2nd base upgrade.

    Reply
    • JHicks

      14 years ago

      Maybe he ends up back with the Tigers?

      Reply
  3. Ryan

    14 years ago

    Your 2012 Philadelphia Phillies, sponsored by Ben-Gay and AARP…

    Reply
    • imachainsaw

      14 years ago

      apparently we can’t say viagra?

      Reply
  4. Roy-Z

    14 years ago

    Not an outrageous upgrade from a healthy Placido Polanco, but could be a good buy low with a reasonably high reward.

    Reply
  5. jojo

    14 years ago

    Keep on spending 8) I can’t wait until the inevitable demise of the Phillies in a few years.

    Reply
    • Roy-Z

      14 years ago

      Going to be a lot of 1-0 games versus lefty pitching.

      Reply
    • legaryd

      14 years ago

      Flags fly forever…I’d rather be terrible for 5 years because we went for it, rather than succumb to mediocrity by mismanagement.

      Reply
      • Roy-Z

        14 years ago

        Well said.

        Reply
      • notsureifsrs

        14 years ago

        those are the only two choices?

        Reply
  6. KJ4realz

    14 years ago

    I like it but hate it at the same time. Phillies could go from one of the best defensive teams to a mediocre one with losing Rollins and a possible loss or relegation of Polanco.

    Reply
  7. KJ4realz

    14 years ago

    He is a strong bat though that knows how to get on base

    Reply
  8. cutch22

    14 years ago

    Ruben Amaro thinks he’s playing with monopoly money.

    Reply
  9. Phillies_Aces35

    14 years ago

    Not really sure if I like this. I’m just assuming he’s their plan B if they miss out on Rollins.

    Reply
  10. Michael Pagnotta

    14 years ago

    I like the Aramis Ramirez  talk, but lets not stop there! Let’s trade Ryan Howard, Dom Brown  and Trevor May for Hanley Ramirez and Gabby Sanchez…Howard has a castle in Florida and when he heals, he can be their replacement for Pujols…

    Reply
    • Michael Shaw

      14 years ago

      No team is going to take on Ryan Howard’s huge new contract, especially before they see how he responds to the achilles injury. 

      Reply
      • imachainsaw

        14 years ago

        especially when they realize how much overpaid ryan howard is. $25M for a player who’s not even worth 3 WAR. sucks to be you for next 6 years phillies.

        Reply
        • JohnS

          14 years ago

          WAR, huh, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!!! YEAH!

          If the Phillies have so many bad WAR players, how come they won the most games in baseball the last two years?

          Reply
          • imachainsaw

            14 years ago

            i named one, not many. there will be a black hole in offense at 1B for the phillies. that means once howard completely falls off, they’ll have much less room for error when in comes to filling other positions.

            Reply
        • Dave Wetzel

          14 years ago

          Yep, it sucks to be a perennial contender with deep pockets who has shown it will spend to overcome shortcomings, yet still has a quality scouting department that has stocked the lower minors with tons of talent.  Yep, sucks to be the Phillies.

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          • imachainsaw

            14 years ago

            as far as position players, they have absolutely nothing in terms of prospects at the AAA level, and their AA appears nearly as barren. which means there’s nothing on the horizon for them as far as significant turnover. their offense has been declining annually and will continue to at least for a few years before it gets any better. which means to fill their lineup they’ll need free agency, and there’s never a ‘sure-thing’ as far as free agent signings.

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            • Muggi

              14 years ago

              …and the “sure-thing” rate on prospects is better? What sport are you watching?

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              • imachainsaw

                14 years ago

                no but it comes at an exponentially cheaper cost. there’s a reason many big free agent deals are busts. that’s because by the time most players reach free agency they’re worn out, but that’s when their paychecks reach their max. it’s much more team efficient to attempt to grow your own because if you fail, you still have plenty of payroll space to try to fix that. it’s not rocket surgery.

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  11. jasonk

    14 years ago

    Dislike. I would much rather the Phillies re-up Rollins and keep Polanco at 3rd next season than Sign Ramirez and play merry-go-round at SS. Rollins may have lost a step in his early 30s, but he is still capable of turning a game around with his defensive prowess.

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    • Michael Shaw

      14 years ago

      Except that Polanco just had double hernia surgery and is questionable at best for a healthy return, let alone a healthy year and Rollins is a fast aging, numbers slipping SS who wants too many years to be prudent to resign. 

      Reply
  12. Paul Shailor

    14 years ago

    I love how the  phillies always say they dont have money then go out and do moves or get linked to moves. I mean remember when they couldnt add to the cap and went out and got lee and then pence?

    Reply
    • goner

      14 years ago

      agreed… Ramirez turned down his side of the 1 year $16M option from the Cubs, so you gotta figure he expects at least that much.

      Reply
      • nepp

        14 years ago

        Or he wants a multi-year deal and realizes he just had a great year and its his last best chance to cash in on it.  Thus, he might take a lower AAV as long as he gets 4-5 years.

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      • Muggi

        14 years ago

        …or he wants a chance to win.

        Reply
  13. BLEACHER_CREATURD

    14 years ago

    They aren’t going to win like this. I’m a Yankee fan, and the Steinbrenners are just now figuring out this kind of buying doesn’t work. You need a core of young guys.

    Reply
    • Russell Stephens

      14 years ago

      NO CAPS?!?!

      Reply
  14. Aaron

    14 years ago

    I have a hard time believing this will actually happen.  It sounds good on paper, however this will severely hurt them if they need to add talent/payroll at the deadline next year.  They do have a spending limit and Ramirez will get multiple offers.  I just don’t see him turning down more money to play in Philly.

    Reply
  15. The_Porcupine

    14 years ago

    The problem is Aramis is a big injury risk himself.  He’s always nicked up, playing through something or on the DL.  Plus he’s terrible on defense and would certainly want a long term contract.  If he were looking for a 2-3 year deal, I might consider him.  But otherwise I think he’s too much of a risk.

    Reply
  16. monroe_says

    14 years ago

    Clearly, the Phillies are just one accomplished veteran away from the ring. Put some mustard on that Ruben!

    Reply

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