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Olney On Rays, Quentin, Polanco, Marlins, Darvish

By Zachary Links | January 1, 2012 at 10:34am CDT

After ranking MLB's best rotations, bullpens, infields, outfields, and lineups in December, ESPN.com's Buster Olney opened up 2012 with his overall power rankings.  The Rays are ranked No. 1 thanks in large part to their outstanding rotation.  This year, Matt Moore joins the mix and Olney writes that the left-hander has the numbers and the ability of Stephen Strasburg without the same level of hype behind him.  Of course, the club still has some issues to address, such as the identity of their first baseman and designated hitter.  However, Olney feels that their pitching makes them the top club in baseball at present.  Here are some highlights from today's column..

  • It's possible that the Padres could negotiate a very team-friendly two- or three-year deal with the Carlos Quentin before arbitration.  However, it's hard to imagine the club investing heavily in the outfielder before gauging how much he can stay on the field and how his power translates to pitcher-friendly Petco Park.
  • The Phillies would still like to find an alternative to the oft-injured Placido Polanco.  In October, skipper Charlie Manuel said that he would be in favor of an upgrade at third base if possible.  The club dangled Polanco in early December when it seemed as if they might lose Jimmy Rollins to free agency and look to sign Aramis Ramirez to play third.
  • The Cubs are talking with a number of teams about Matt Garza, including the Marlins.  A lot of baseball scouts are not wild about the quality and depth of the prospects in Miami's farm system.
  • Yu Darvish is not yet signed with the Rangers, but rival executives don't believe he has much leverage and will eventually work out a deal.
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  1. JohnnyC

    13 years ago

    Darvish can still re-sign with the Fighters for around $8 million and wait 2 years for true free agency and have the ability to negotiate with a group of teams not just one. And he’ll still be only 27. He’s got the most leverage any posted Japanese player has ever had.

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    • j6takish

      13 years ago

      Why would he not want to sign with Texas though? They can afford to pay him and are probably the team best suited to compete for the long run. “Derp, all Japanese players want to play with Ichiro in Seattle LOL!” or “Yankees are an American icon LMAO!”

      Reply
      • Bill Petti

        13 years ago

        Have you seen what Arlington does to pitchers?

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        • Madman2TX

          13 years ago

          What? Diminishes their ERAs? It does that to opposing pitchers as well

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          • Jon Melton

            13 years ago

            Also check out the rangers staff era in 2011,  5th best in AL

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            • Bill Petti

              13 years ago

              True, but look at what they had to do on the road to make that happen. Just saying I can imagine a pitcher looking at that and having pause.

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            • Marky

              13 years ago

              2011 team home ERA: 4.37
              2011 team road ERA: 3.19

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              • Peter G

                13 years ago

                 A lot of that is because the rest of the opposing division parks are in canyons.

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        • Rangersfan32 2

          13 years ago

          The 2010 and 2011 Texas rotation/bullpen say hi.

          Reply
          • John W

            13 years ago

            I thought they already said “goodbye”

            Reply
          • Marky

            13 years ago

            Cliff Lee said “bye”.

            Reply
        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          It’s more like what our bats do to pitchers in our park. Our guys were actually very successful in Arlington this year, outside of Colby, who had hip issues all year.

          Reply
      • Chunk Light

        13 years ago

        Not saying this would be a reason, even more so because of the fact that his father is Persian but Gregg Zaun said that one of the Japanese pitchers he played with couldn’t handle the heat of summer in Baltimore.  So Darvish better be better suited to it than others since many complain about playing in the heat there.

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    • Madman2TX

      13 years ago

      The likelihood is that the Rangers will end up paying Darvish $12-$15 mil per season. Why take the smaller amount

      Reply
    • Marky

      13 years ago

      Agreed, he’s got a ton of leverage and repeatedly stated he wanted to play on the West Coast. I’m very surprised he wasn’t targeted by the Mariners, Angels or Dodgers. 

      Reply
      • CAD_Monkey

        13 years ago

        Unless he would accept a back-loaded deal that involved being paid nothing in 2012, there was no way the Dodgers were going to be involved.

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      • CAD_Monkey

        13 years ago

        Unless he would accept a back-loaded deal that involved being paid nothing in 2012, there was no way the Dodgers were going to be involved.

        Reply
  2. Snoochies8

    13 years ago

    scott sizemore could be a viable option for the phil’s, probably would take more than they’d like to offer though

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    • j6takish

      13 years ago

      Are there any alternatives to Polanco, and are they really upgrades?

      Reply
      • Snoochies8

        13 years ago

        off the top of my head, yes, sizemore. Put up a 114 ops+, a .330 wOBA vs. Polanco’s .304 wOBA last year, he’s younger, and under control for at least 4 years

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        • james hannon

          13 years ago

          A’s want four prospects in return!!!

          Reply
          • Snoochies8

            13 years ago

            rabble rabble dominic brown rabble rabble jesse biddle 

            Reply
        • straightuphonestguy

          13 years ago

          Headley? Assuming everything goes well with Gyorko’s development, he should be ready by the end of this year/beginning of next year to man 3B. Dunno if Phillies match up with the Padres needs though.

          Reply
  3. rsanchez1

    13 years ago

    Those Rays can move whatever piece and still have a good team. Let’s see if it translates to a World Series this year. Citrus Series 2012 Miami vs Tampa Bay.

    Reply
    • diesel2410

      13 years ago

      Ha, Miami won’t even make the playoffs

      Reply
    • slider32

      13 years ago

      I don’t think the Rays offense is good enough right now to win the series. I would put the Rangers, Angels, Sox, and Yanks ahead of the Rays.

      Reply
      • diesel2410

        13 years ago

        If the Rays acquire a good bat, I put them ahead of the Sox and Rangers

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        • slider32

          13 years ago

          They have lost to the Rangers the last 2 years in the playoffs. I don’t see them being that much better on offense. I also think the Angels are much improved, they could pick up a spot in the playoffs. There pitching is just as good as the Rays.

          Reply
        • vonhayesdays

          13 years ago

          like babe ruth or something 

          Reply
        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          Yea, put them above the Rangers who’ve won the AL the past 2 seasons, not to mention the team that knocked them out both years…….one bat would not be the decider of that series.

          Reply
  4. Martus Kurtz

    13 years ago

    Matt Dominguez (sp?) would be a good starting point in a Garza deal. Maybe add Hand to that mix and throw in a couple loose bodies? I mean, it couldnt compete with maybe a Martin Perez (Rangers) package, but it’s not like it would be impossible. I wanna see the Fish do well this year.

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    • Rangersfan32 2

      13 years ago

      A Perez package would get nowhere, unless Theo likes the way JD laughs and hangs up a phone.

      Reply
    • Brv Rocks

      13 years ago

      The Cubs would hang up the phone laughing at that offer.  Getting Garza would cost a TOP prospect, not a bust like Dominguez and bottom of the rotation filler like Hand.

      Reply
  5. Hodor 2

    13 years ago

    Hell yeah!  GO RAYS!

    Reply
    • slider32

      13 years ago

      What’s so concerning about the Rays is their fan base. They were one of the five worst drawing teams in the majors the last few years. Plus alot of their attendence is fans from opposing teams. Something has to be done, they need to relocate. 18,000 at home and 28,000 on the road, just don’t cut the mustard. That goes for the A’s, and Jays too!

      Reply
      • Onetimeaccount

        13 years ago

        “The Rays can’t win because of their fanbase”.

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          I’d say they’ve done pretty great despite their fanbase.

          Reply
          • Onetimeaccount

            13 years ago

            Indeed they have. I was just paraphrasing him.

            Reply
      • cubsfanraysaddict

        13 years ago

        Agreed lol, people from Tampa don’t want to drive to St. Pete, the traffic is crazy (Pinellas county, where St. Pete is located, is Florida’s most densely populated county).  Draysbay, and other sites, have done some good studies about population density around team’s respective stadiums, and TB is in last place (bottom 3 at best). I’m from St. Pete, but that team needs to move to Tampa.

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        • OsFan12

          13 years ago

          The traffic is maybe the third worst in their own division.  People travel from Maine for the Sox and Albany/New Jersey for the Yankees.   Having been to their games I’d probably rank them in the bottom 10 traffic around stadium in the league.

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          • harrigang

            13 years ago

            Yanks and Sox are prestigious franchises. They’ve been around for over 100 years now. Rays have been a team for 13 years. Couple that with the fact that people are more worried about losing their homes than going to a baseball game in the dumbest stadium in the most congested area of town and you’ll see there’s a problem.
            I’m a Rays fan! And I’m scared they’re gonna relocate because the damn mayor of St. Pete won’t let go of his damn pride!

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            • Aaron Giddens

              13 years ago

              Exactly

              Reply
  6. TribeGuy

    13 years ago

    In my opinion, the Rangers are the best option for Darvish, with their great offensive and getting him after losing C.J, they’re still my favorites for making another WS

    Reply
  7. rundmc1981

    13 years ago

    Now I haven’t read Olney’s comments – I wish I could w/o being an Insider – but if Olney can justify having TB at #1 in the power rankings based mainly on their pitching depth, by that same measure, ATL better be right behind them. Now, ATL doesn’t have maybe the ceiling that Moore and Price have, but ATL certainly has the depth that if someone goes down, they could pitch just as good if not better than the person they’re replacing. Factor in the fact that ATL isn’t playing in the AL East, though the NL East will be competitive, it’s not going to be the AL East.

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    • Martus Kurtz

      13 years ago

      I think the NL East race is going to be BETTER then the AL East race.  It’s Boston/NY/Tampa. Only one of those teams has amazing pitching.  In the NL East you have Phi (great rotation), Atl(Great rotation), Was(Good rotation), and Miami (Decent Rotation. NL East is going to go down to pitching, as it should be. Only way I could see NY/Boston getting over Tampa is overpowering with offense. And honestly, I think either LA Angels or TEX is getting the AL Wild Card.

      Reply
      • Fernando O'Connor

        13 years ago

        You forgot the Blue Jays…AL EAST last year had 4 out of 5 teams with a .500 or better record. Plus the Blue Jays have improved their pitching this off season; their offense is plentiful. Don’t compare the NL east to the AL Beast. They’re in a league of their own.

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          The NL East is dominated by pitching. The AL East is dominated by hitting…outside of the Rays, of course.

          Reply
        • Shu13

          13 years ago

          BUT Tor is still a 4th place team in ALE…..and won’t sniff the 2nd WC spot in ’12 IMO

          Reply
        • Peter G

          13 years ago

          You’re Blue Jays have played worse against the NL East than the AL East over the last number of seasons.

          Reply
      • slider32

        13 years ago

        I think they added another wild card for next year.

        Reply
    • SolidarityInSF

      13 years ago

      There are reasons to get ESPN Insider, but Olney isn’t one of them.

      Reply
      • rundmc1981

        13 years ago

        Understood, but I can’t justify giving my money to ESPN so they can continue with 24-hour idioms. I’ll just continue with this site and get the Cliff’s Notes.

        Reply
  8. SierraM363

    13 years ago

    Darvish probably wants to be paid more than Daisuke.

    Reply
  9. SierraM363

    13 years ago

    Darvish probably wants to be paid more than Daisuke.

    Reply
  10. bighiggy

    13 years ago

    alright phillies fans, being a cardinal fan, what would it take to get polanco from you guys so he could be our second baseman?

    Reply
    • Mongolian Literature

      13 years ago

      2002 Scott Rolen.

      Reply
      • bighiggy

        13 years ago

        i mean the rumours say they are shopping polanco, im just wondering what realistically would it take to get him?  i know he’s been hurt alittle lately but the bat is still above average

        Reply
      • bighiggy

        13 years ago

        i mean the rumours say they are shopping polanco, im just wondering what realistically would it take to get him?  i know he’s been hurt alittle lately but the bat is still above average

        Reply
        • dylanp5030

          13 years ago

          What about Matt Carpenter? Hes blocked by Freese and Cox eventually.

          Reply
          • bighiggy

            13 years ago

            you think they would trade us polanco for carpenter? i think we may have to throw in another prospect, i wouldnt mind seeing carpenter work on being a second baseman, kid has put up impressive on base percentage’s in the minors

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            • dylanp5030

              13 years ago

              Personally, I would. Polly is great when healthy but Phillirs need a young third baseman in the worst way. If that deal was offered, I think RAJr would accept

              Reply
  11. Rob 37

    13 years ago

    I think Prince is going to the Rangers because there in desperate need of a 1st baseman. If they get Prince they got 7 players who are capable of hitting 30 home runs in 2012.
    Batting order.
    1. Ian Kinsler
    2. Elvis Andrus
    3. Josh Hamilton
    4. Prince Fielder
    5. Adrian Beltre
    6. Nelson Cruz
    7. Michel Young
    8. Mile Napoli
    9. David Murphy

    Reply
    • Shu13

      13 years ago

      Between Young/Napoli/Moreland how are they in desperate need of a 1B?

      Reply
  12. Rob 37

    13 years ago

    I think Prince is going to the Rangers because there in desperate need of a 1st baseman. If they get Prince they got 7 players who are capable of hitting 30 home runs in 2012.
    Batting order.
    1. Ian Kinsler
    2. Elvis Andrus
    3. Josh Hamilton
    4. Prince Fielder
    5. Adrian Beltre
    6. Nelson Cruz
    7. Michel Young
    8. Mile Napoli
    9. David Murphy

    Reply
  13. Andrew 36

    13 years ago

    The padres stole Carlos quintin they gave up like nothing

    Reply

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