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Quick Hits: Headley, Fire Sales, Draft Picks

By Mark Polishuk | July 28, 2012 at 1:27am CDT

With such notable names as Zack Greinke, Wandy Rodriguez and Hanley Ramirez already dealt, what other big moves could see as we head into the last weekend before the trade deadline?  Here are a few items to kick off Saturday…

  • The Padres have sent three officials to watch the Orioles over the last two weeks, with senior VP Omar Minaya in attendance at Camden Yards for Friday's Athletics/Orioles game at Camden Yards, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.  Of course, Minaya could have also been watching the visitors, given that both Oakland and Baltimore are two of the top suitors for Chase Headley.
  • Would-be contenders aren't shying away from dealing away major pieces in an effort to start fresh, opines MLB.com's Terence Moore.  "Trades also are now more about trading contracts than trading players, which is part of the bottom line: People in baseball are looking for ways to control those payrolls and budgets," says SiriusXM Radio's Steve Phillips.
  • The new CBA rules prohibiting draft pick compensation for teams who acquire "rental players" is having an impact on the deadline movement, writes MLB.com's Paul Hagen.
  • The Chiba Lotte Marines announced the acquisitions of left-hander Wil Ledezma and right-hander Doug Mathis, according to a Sponichi news report (passed on by Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker).  Ledezma, 31, signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers last winter but posted a 6.99 ERA in 38 relief appearances at Triple-A Albuquerque.  The nine-year Major League veteran pitched five games for the Blue Jays in 2011.  Mathis, 29, last appeared in the Majors with the Rangers in 2010 and had previously signed a minor league deal with the Red Sox in January.
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  1. websoulsurfer

    13 years ago

    Padres scouts have also been to games in Bowie recently. Machado part of trade for Headley?

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    • itsmewade

      13 years ago

      No way the Orioles make that trade.

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      • websoulsurfer

        13 years ago

        Not much else in Orioles organization past Machado, Bundy and Schoop. Rest are scrubs.

        Not a single guy after those 3 that makes Padres top 20 list.

        So who WOULD they send for best bat available in trade market and a guy that would hit .300+/.850+ in Camden Yards?

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        • itsmewade

          13 years ago

          Who couldn’t hit .300+/.850+ in Camden Yards?

          Reply
          • Sd_brain

            13 years ago

            there’s plenty of guys on the Os who can’t

            Reply
          • schlom

            13 years ago

            Every current Oriole except for Adam Jones?

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          • websoulsurfer

            13 years ago

            Not a single Oriole who qualifies currently (about 280 AB). Wont let us post links on here, but go to Orioles website.

            In fact no Oriole with over 67 AB is hitting .300 and he is out for season.

            Of active players, only Jones is over .800 OPS.

            Reply
          • not_brooks

            13 years ago

            High standards there, guy. There are probably only 25 or 30 hitters in the game who put up a .300 average and an .850 OPS.

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            • briankoke

              13 years ago

              Headley has a career 814 OPS away from Petco and he’s coming into his prime. His OPS away from Petco this year is 863. That wouldn’t surprise me at all if he went to a team with a hitters park.

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        • not_brooks

          13 years ago

          L.J. Hoes, Nick Delmonico, Jason Esposito, Parker Bridwell, Mike Wright.

          All young, high ceiling guys who could easily be pieces in a deal for Headley.

          Schoop, two of the guys listed above and Jake Arrieta to Padres for Headley would be a solid deal for both sides.

          Reply
          • NYPOTENCE

            13 years ago

            Even the Yankees would be able to match that offer.

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          • sdsuphilip

            13 years ago

            Nope, Schoop can’t be the lead piece. A borderline top 100 guy as the lead piece for a cheap young top 5 3B with cost control years? Yeah, no. Much rather have A.J Cole or Michael Choice.

            Reply
      • briankoke

        13 years ago

        I love when people say there is no way my team will trade this or that. While I don’t believe the O’s would trade Machado, we really have no idea what they are willing to give up.

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        • Catztradamus

          13 years ago

          you don’t trade Manny Machado for Chase Headley. Machado is better than Headley in two years. Not saying they can’t deal Machado, but not for Headley.

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          • vpsd

            13 years ago

            I’m sure you felt the same way about matusz 2 years ago too…

            Reply
          • briankoke

            13 years ago

            That’s what White Sox fans were telling me a few years ago when I suggested Gordon Beckham for Adrian Gonzalez. They said he’ll be better than AGon. Ask some White Sox fans how that has turned out. You can claim Machado is going to better all you want. The fact is, he’s just a prospect and you have no idea whether or not he’ll reach his potential. Tools are just tools until they produce. He has a career minor league line of .255/.336/.411. Yes, he’s been young at each level, but that isn’t terribly impressive, even for his age and level. I’m just fine with the Padres keeping Headley. If the O’s don’t want give up talent, let them continue to slide down the standings and start thinking about next year. They don’t need to trade Headley.

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    • briankoke

      13 years ago

      Who were they scouting at the big league level? I can’t see anyone in either lineup of interest. Parker or Britton? I’d be surprised if either were included.

      Reply
    • Andrew Ochs

      13 years ago

      Hahah no

      Reply
  2. websoulsurfer

    13 years ago

    Orioles scouts were in Lake Elsinore in last few days asking about Spangenberg and McElroy.

    Does that mean maybe Machado AND Bundy AND Schoop for Headley plus Spangenberg?

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    • vpsd

      13 years ago

      Haha probably not all that. I’d love that, but it’s encouraging that the Orioles are scouting our Prospects too, as it could be to land Machado or Bundy.

      Reply
      • vpsd

        13 years ago

        where did you hear the orioles were scouting the storm and asking about spang? He hasn’t been playing lately since he got hit in the head.

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        • websoulsurfer

          13 years ago

          Ben from Madfriars. Scouts the minors for their site.

          Reply
    • not_brooks

      13 years ago

      The last time a #1 overall prospect was traded was… um… never.

      And you’re suggesting that #1 and #9 will be traded in the same deal? Not gonna happen. Ever.

      Reply
      • coup

        13 years ago

        um…Adrian Gonzalez

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        • briankoke

          13 years ago

          He’s not talking about #1 and #9 on a team. He’s talking about the best prospect in baseball and the 9th best prospect in baseball.

          Reply
      • Rob Morrison

        13 years ago

        Padres want a lot in return for Chase. Pads do not need to move Chase, I think he stays put.

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      • vpsd

        13 years ago

        How would the Padres get Jurickson Profar and Machado in the same deal?

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    • marinest21

      13 years ago

      That would be amazing, but I would say that it would be Bundy or Machado, definitely not both of them. Being a Padres fan I would totally want either of the two, but realistically I can’t see Duquette including them in any deal. This is not to say Headley is not deserving of that return, more it is saying that I don’t believe the Orioles will sell away their future right now. Many other posters have stated is, but aside from Machado and Bundy, the O’s system is really thin. I just don’t think Duquette would be willing to absorb that type of hit.

      Reply
      • Todd Smith

        13 years ago

        I’ll say it.
        Headley is not deserving of that return.

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        • straightuphonestguy

          13 years ago

          I agree, but what else do the Orioles have to offer for Headley? A package centered around Schoop? Although he’s young and interesting, I’m not sure the Padres would be interested in a package centered on him, considering the glut of third-basemen they already have.

          Mayhaps Orioles don’t match up as well as some think.

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    • padresfuture

      13 years ago

      Why would scouts travel accross the country to ask about a currently injured player? It is entirely possible, though, that the Padres have informed teams they wont deal Headley unless an elite talent like machado, bundy, profar, etc are involved… this would then require the Padres to include additional pieces. If Spang was healthy I could see a Headley + Spang for Machado and a much lesser piece. The Orioles could rationalize that by keeping Schoop and sending him back to short they would like a 2b prospect to bring up with schoop in 2 years.

      Reply
  3. Josmael Beltran

    13 years ago

    they also said they wanted a leftie so they may include tatcher from the padres in the deal

    Reply
  4. Sean Swinney

    13 years ago

    Rangers A-ball SP Roman Mendez is scratched from his start Saturday. Trade in the works?

    Reply
  5. David D

    13 years ago

    As a Braves fan, I would love to see the Braves make a trade for Headley and Luke Gregerson. I wonder what kind of package it would take from the Braves?

    Reply
  6. David D

    13 years ago

    What would it take for the Braves to acquire Headley and Luke Gregerson? LG is the guy we need for the bullpen, and Headley could play some 3b and LF for the Braves. Headley would take over 3b full-time next year with Chipper retiring.

    Reply
    • Rob Morrison

      13 years ago

      A lot, a whole lot.

      Reply
    • sdsuphilip

      13 years ago

      Headley’s value is tied at the hip that he is an elite defender at third, he is terrible in the OF. As for what it would take at least 1 of Simmons/Teheran +

      Reply
  7. helmutk

    13 years ago

    Omar Minaya still has a job in baseball?

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