The Dodgers and GM Ned Colletti have agreed to a contract extension, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The two sides have been discussing an extension lately and his current deal included mutual options beyond 2012. The new agreement is a multiyear deal, perhaps as many as three years according to Heyman.
Colletti has been at the Dodgers' helm since November 2005. The team has gone 586-530 under his watch, thrice winning the NL West and never winning fewer than 80 games in a season. They advanced to the NLCS in both 2008 and 2009. He survived the Frank McCourt ownership fallout, and the new Stan Kasten and Magic Johnson led ownership group showed no indications that they were considering a switch at GM.
Our Transaction Tracker shows all of Colletti's moves as Dodgers GM, the second of which is acquiring Andre Ethier from the Athletics. Other notable moves including hiring manager Joe Torre, acquiring Greg Maddux, signing Hiroki Kuroda, extending Matt Kemp, and acquiring Adrian Gonzalez. Clayton Kershaw was also drafted under Colletti's watch.
no suprise there
Paul DePodesta was a better GM. Giving Manny Ramirez $45 million for 2 years was another notable Colletti move.
PDP is much better SUPPORTING GM’s like he is now and was was before.
Ugh. He’s not a very good GM. I’ll give him Kuroda but other than that he’s hasn’t done much well. Ethier was more about getting rid of Milton Bradley, just a bonus that he’s been so good. Ned has taken advantage of malcontents with Manny, Hanley, and Gonzalez. His free agent signings up until this year have been terrible. Hopefully he’s turning a corner. All things considered I’d give him a C/C-, nowhere near good but not the worst.
You read too much NE media if for 1 second believe that Gonzalez is a malcontent..
Ramirez (both) definitely and nobody should have had anything to do with Manny after he was shipped out of Boston, much less given 45m and THEN payable over time because McCourt was broke.
Gonzalez (not like Manny) is in his prime, is quiet, a GG defender and is the polar opposite of those other 2 moody and egotistical players you compared him to.
Oh yea I totally agree that the Ramirezes (Ramiri?) are way worse attitude wise. I meant it more in the sense that their teams were dissatisfied andlooking to move them and Ned was happy to help.
Loria calmed down Hanley a few years back by awarding him with a HUGE gold necklace with his Uni number in diamonds… It worked..For a little while..
Wonder what the LAD will do when Hanley starts pouting and not hustling? It will happen. Not saying that to be mean, but I do watch 100+ Marlin games every year and am a fan of them, have seen his pattern throughout his career..
Issues have ways of working themselves out in LA and other large market cities, stuff like Hanley jogging out to LF to chase the ball down won’t fly. Just ask Matt Kemp, before he was “Matt Kemp”, and he wasn’t a “malcontent” early on, just not as focused.
Except that Manny single-handely turned around a struggling club and drove them into the postseason for the first time in years. So let’s not reinvent history here, talking about stuff nobody could have known in advance. Okay?
Ramirez’s issues were well known before the trade.. His moods, attitude, disdain. LA got it also, just took a little over half a season for the shine to wear off.
His “issues” were not a problem in LA. The “shine” wore off when he was suspended for 50 games for banned substance use, then came injuries. Manny gave Dodger fans the best time they’d had in years, including two NLDS titles, and nothing anyone can say will change that. Sorry!
LOL. Alright.. I’ll leave LAD fans to their happy memories of “Mannywood” then BlueSky
The memories are real. Fantasies will always be just that.
Manny drove the Dodgers to the postseason for the first time in years? Does missing the playoffs for one year count as “years”?
Bradley was a huge problem child. Do you remember him tearing off his jersey in right field? Breaking bats over his thigh? At the time everyone was surprised that he was traded for more than a bag of balls. For that worthless player Colletti got Ethier. But no credit due, none at all. We can revise history everyday on these boards, so long as nobody notices.
Colletti is awful — free agent signings, drafts, etc. No revisionism needed
To be fair? He wasn’t exactly allowed to spend much on the draft in either 2010-11. Without looking it up.. Seems like their 2011 1st round selection was a blue light special they could sign easily and their spending on both drafts was really low, forced upon them by the McCourt divorce and out of Colleti’s hands.
He wasn’t allowed to spend much at any time. Period, full stop. The biggest ticket item by far was Manny, and much of that cost was deferred, to the extent that he is still on the Dodgers’ payroll. This is the way McCourt ran the franchise, and Fox wasn’t any better. Clearly Kasten & Co. know what they’ve got in Colletti — even if many fans don’t.
Zach Lee was drafted in 2010 & given a $5.25M bonus. Did they spend as much as other teams on the draft? No. Did they have the same amount of picks as other teams? Yes
A fact-free rebuttal.
Ha, what has he done to be considered “good”? I know we are rehashing but you are the only person I’ve heard of who doesn’t show the slightest concern with his track record. Drafts are awful, MLB signings are awful, teams dont go deep in the playoffs…. those are facts. I’ve stated tons of numbers (including team salary) & historical performances of his transactions. Even Jay Jaffe, a national writer & Dodger fan, acknowledged Colletti hasn’t done the best with what resources he has. And yes, Colletti has had more resources than gobs of teams even under McCourt. Money doesn’t equal success, you cannot keep falling back on “well our owner only let us spend $100M instead of $150M”
I have already replied to this argument twice at least.
Then, this is now your third time without presenting a new argument other than ownership sucks (and that is countered by other teams ownership spend tremendously less yet have won Diamondbacks, Rays, Twins)
Read what I wrote and please don’t make me repeat myself again. If you have a response to the argument (which once again you have totally ignored and misstated), then by all means feel free to do so.
Then stop replying, I do not understand someone who takes the last word with emotion over logic. What have I misstated? You have referenced the horrible ownership & lack of spending on scouting. I agree. You brought up his overall W-L record which is strong. I brought up with his resources (especially compared to the rest of the league), he has done an awful job. 3 div titles in 7 years when he has more resources than every other team in the div. How many draft picks in his 7 years have made it & contribute? 1 Kershaw. How many free agent signings have been positive? Furcal & Kuroda, the rest awful. You cannot fall back solely on ownership after 7 years. The Brewers, Rays, Twins, A’s, et al do not blame ownership. IF you can state an accomplished & consistent aspect of Colletti that contributes to the Dodgers success the past 7 years, I am all ears. Truly. But you cannot defend him and say you have a “strong argument” when you cannot counter what I have written, or Jayson Stark, or Jay Jaffe, etc. I’m not picking on you, I just need logic.
Ah, at last you recognize that I made more of an argument than “ownership sucks.” Why did that take so long? I never brought up anyone’s W-L record, though. Not sure where you got that. But you have still ignored everything else I’ve said so it is clear that logic is not what you are seeking. So I will take your advice and stop replying.
Please refresh my memory then. Or counteract my points? I’m not on here to troll or play “he said/she said.” Clearly you feel there was more depth to your argument since most of what you wrote before I felt like I replied to. I must be wrong. I’m sure you know if you bring up his free agent history, I will point you to professional writers. If you bring up his drafting, please reference someone other than Kershaw. I will relinquish the chair to you now
Gonzalez a malcontent? Wrong! he is about as calm player as you’ll ever find Team player all the way. Andre you are way off on that guy
For all the hate that he gets, I’m sorta surprised hes never won less than 80 games in 6 years as a GM.
He’s not terrible, he’s just mediocre. A great organization like the Dodgers deserves so much better. With that in mind, he is better at his job than Kevin Malone.
Pulls off two monster trades in a few weeks and he’s still mediocre? yeah, we know this team is terrible right now but that doesn’t change the scale of what he accomplished in a short time.
The Marlins and the Sox were both desperate to dump those players. IMO he gave up a bit much to acquire those players from the sox. He gave up a few decent players and took on 3 big contracts and only $10M.
And the Dodger got them. This is what actually matters. When Colletti was working on poverty budgets to sign players, fans complained about that, even though the results were actually pretty good (think Carroll, Ellis, Capuano, etc.). Now that he’s got big money behind him he gets no credit for trading for players that nobody at the time assumed were available. You can say now that the Sox were desperate to move Gonzales, but in reality that trade wasn’t on anybody’s radar until about a day before it happened.
He’s terrible. Look at who he’s drafted in 7 years; look at free agents he’s signed to multi-year deals. No bueno, even with awful ownership
“Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!”
Not happy with this. I haven’t been a Colletti supporter for sometime and was hoping the new ownership would be with me on this. I was looking forward to getting some new blood in the GM seat when the new owners took over, but the Dodgers are stuck with mediocrity running the show for a few more years. Before I get flamed by die hard Dodger supporters lets break down some moves since I have some time to kill.
Lets start with free agents…Jason Schmidt (3yrs $47m), Andruw Jones (2yrs $36m), Juan Pierre (5 yrs $55m), Juan Uribe (3 yrs $21m) aside from bringing Kuroda in there isnt any success to hang you hat on, unless youre a big Jamey Carrol fan.
Trades…well kind of a mix bag. A lot I still scratch my head but you can argue he has an ok track record here. Yes, the Either trade has worked out extremely well, and the Manny trade did a lot of good for the team, however the extension he signed him to after knocks things down a bit. Then you consider the Casey Blake trade where Carlos Santana was sent of so a few $ could be saved. The deal sending Edwin Jackson away for Danny Baez looks bad, even though it took EJax sometime to really figure things out, same thing with Cody Ross. Octavio Dotel for Andrew Lambo and James McDonald still lingers with me, and then there is the deal sending Trayvon Robinson out for Tim Federowicz and a few more pieces really just confused the hell out of me. The problem with most of these deals is that he gives up on guys when they have some trouble adapting to the big leagues along with panicing when he feels he needs to make an upgrade at certain position. This year is prolly what landed him the extension. The Hanley deal looks like a win for him while the deal with the Red Sox is gonna be career defining if it wasnt already. I see the logic in taking the AGon $ and Beckett was addressing a need they need to fill, but they take on Crawfords contract which has the look of Vernon Wells 2.0 and even though I think if Crawford gets healthy his game will translate well in Dodger stadium, he took a lot of money on while giving up some pretty nice prospects.
All in all I am optimistic that Kasten and Co. will keep some of the blunders down in the future, but given Colletti’s previous history, was he deserving of an extension? I think not.
I really wouldn’t go that far. Every year he has had a payroll of at least $98M, and some years almost $120M. Yet for all that his teams have only been able to win 90 games or more once. So many teams that are doing better on lower payroll.
I would. Two successive ownerships decimated the Dodgers scouting and development system. Once among the best in baseball, it was starved to the point of becoming one of the worst. Colletti was punching with one hand tied behind his back, and yet he put up a pretty good fight.
At the time nearly everyone around here was shocked by the Zach Lee pick and figured it was made so McCourt could justify not signing him. I didn’t believe that was true necessarily, but the overall picture as everyone knows is that McCourt was a big spender when it came to bankrolling his own lifestyle and skinflint when it came to building a team — and not just in payroll and signing bonuses. The quality of the picks are dependent on the scouting, and that’s another place where McCourt (and Fox before him) did not see value for money. You simply cannot talk about what’s happened to the Dodger organization over the last 15 years without acknowledging how badly the scouting and development area has been decimated. It has gone from top to bottom in MLB. Kasten has said that he is committed to rebuilding this part of the organization. For this Dodger fan, this is even better news than the big payrolls they are also prepared to support.