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Casey McGehee Accepts Minor League Assignment, Remains On 40-Man Roster

By edcreech and Steve Adams | May 26, 2015 at 4:06pm CDT

TUESDAY: The Giants announced that McGehee has accepted an assignment to Triple-A Sacramento, but the team announced that he has been optioned — not outrighted — to the minors.

MLBTR has confirmed that McGehee remains on the club’s 40-man roster and was never technically designated for assignment, despite a prior announcement. As a player with five-plus years of Major League service time and a minor league option remaining, McGehee did have to consent to being optioned to Triple-A, but he did not have to pass through optional or outright waivers.

Hank Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that GM Bobby Evans told Matt Chisholm of the Giants’ media relations team that McGehee was designated off the 25-man roster, but not the 40-man.

SUNDAY: The Giants have announced they have designated third baseman Casey McGehee for assignment. McGehee was acquired from the Marlins last December for a pair of minor leaguers to replace Pablo Sandoval. The Giants have named Matt Duffy (.299/.330/.402 in 105 plate appearances) their new starting third baseman.

The 2014 Comeback Player of the Year has struggled during his stay by the bay slashing .200/.254/.282 while grounding into more double plays (a league leading 12) than RBIs (nine) in 118 trips to the plate.

“I feel I’ve got a lot left in the tank,” McGehee told reporters including Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle (via Twitter). “I’m pretty sure yesterday was not the last baseball game I’ve played.”

The Giants now have ten days to either trade, release, or outright McGehee to the minors. Giants GM Bobby Evans told reporters, including Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News, he hopes McGehee will accept an assignment to Triple-A because “he was comeback player for a reason.” McGehee says he will consult with his family on his next step and will not rush into a decision, reports Schulman, because “that’s not a decision I’m capable of making in 10 minutes.” There is also a financial component to McGehee’s decision. He and the Giants avoided arbitration in February by agreeing to a $4.8MM contract, approximately $3.5MM of which remains due. McGehee would forfeit that salary if he passes through waivers and declines an outright assignment.

McGehee’s DFA could also have implications for Travis Ishikawa, who is eligible to be reinstated tomorrow from his rehab assignment. Alex Pavlovic of CSNBayArea.com notes the Giants, in the middle of a stretch of 17 games in 16 days, have opted to go with a 13-man pitching staff with the recall of right-hander Hunter Strickland and there may not be room to add Ishikawa. Baggarly writes the Giants may be forced to designate the first baseman/outfielder, who was the hero of last year’s NLCS.

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  1. Hopper15 2

    10 years ago

    Thank you! Lousy defense and an automatic groundout/DP if someone is on first base.

    Reply
    • Martin H.

      10 years ago

      Did he get booed at SF?

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      • Joe 52

        10 years ago

        Yes.

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  2. jljr222

    10 years ago

    That’s rough considering how good he was for the Marlins last year. Not to get off-track, but I hope the Yankees consider doing the same for Stephen Drew :P.

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    • norcalbb

      10 years ago

      he’s looked completely lost at the plate, and his defense has been nothing short of a liability

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    • User 4245925809

      10 years ago

      Agreed. He was outstanding for the Marlins. Someone will give him a job at the MLB level and have a feeling his 2014 numbers will be back. This guy was too good last year. He’s not the awful bat that is Stephen Drew.

      Reply
      • David Coonce

        10 years ago

        He led the league in GIDP last season, no power, no speed, no defense. It was empty batting average. He was on pace to hit into 55 DP this season. More than one analyst predicted this.

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        • User 4245925809

          10 years ago

          So what exactly was jeter the last several seasons? Omar Infante, another ex Marlin could fit that bill also you describe and he signed a 4/30m contract prior to the 2014 season.

          Having watched many of the Marlin’s games last year (Fish are one of my favorites) I see him as a bit better, or did last year. Can’t say have seen him more than 1-2 times this year since SF isn’t anywhere near the top of a list of teams make an effort to watch.

          Edit:

          David: Think know how to put this best. MeGehee struggled this year, albeit no injuries that we know of. Correct? Maybe his issues to start the year are much like what Napoli went thru until this week when Nap finally hit 3 HR. Maybe Allen Craig would be someone whose struggles and defense equates?

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          • David Coonce

            10 years ago

            Sounds about right; Craig’s power has disappeared, as has McGehee’s. Neither has any defensive value and both are on the short side of being a platoon player. McGehee’s 2014 was all BABIP; he created an enormous amount of outs and had pretty much no defensive value, power or speed. It was a nice little fluky “comeback” but the skills didn’t seem to support the stats. And they didn’t.

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      • SFrush90

        10 years ago

        He was nowhere near outstanding. He was good for the first half of the season and dropped off significantly during the second half, but nothing more than mediocre production over the course of the whole season- .287/.355/.357, .319 wOBA, 102 wRC+.

        He hasn’t been a good starting third baseman since 2010. No team is going to be clamoring for his services if he’s released.

        McGehee has been worse than Drew this season. Though that doesn’t really matter too much since both have been dreadful.

        McGehee- .191/.246/.273, .235 wOBA, 51 wRC+

        Drew- .177/.253/.323, .257 wOBA, 58 wRC+

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      • tesseract

        10 years ago

        Again, he was not “outstanding” by any stretch of the imagination. He was below average production with the bat for a 3B. Sure, it was a nice comeback story but that’s it

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    • SFrush90

      10 years ago

      He wasn’t even that good. He was just average- .287/.355/.357, .319 wOBA, 102 wRC+.

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      • tesseract

        10 years ago

        And when you consider the 3B position. He was below average

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    • tesseract

      10 years ago

      Look at his babip last year. No way the guy could have kept that up. Even for as “good as he was for the Marlins” like you mentioned he was worth -8.6 runs compared to the Average 3B in the league. He was in no way “good”, more like “decent”, an aging veteran who hit for an unsustainable high average, with no speed, no power and no positional value. No thanks

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  3. Mark D

    10 years ago

    2014: .335 BABIP
    2015: .238 BABIP

    Poor guy got nothing from the luck gods.

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    • Jaysfan1994 2

      10 years ago

      Them luck Gods better start having my Jays perform up to their Pythagorean W-L of 24-21.

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    • pitnick

      10 years ago

      I haven’t watched enough games this year to say whether he’s been getting unlucky outs, but just so everyone’s clear, BABIP is not necessarily synonymous with luck, particularly for hitters. He’s been hitting a ton of grounders (59.3%) and weak fly balls. He’s had low BABIP seasons before, when he’s just not hitting the ball real hard.

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  4. scann

    10 years ago

    Who plays 3rd….now…..

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    • Tommets

      10 years ago

      Duffy will play 3rd.

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    • Joe 52

      10 years ago

      Matt Duffy’s been great so far this year, but I imagine that Sabean is working on a long(er) term solution so that Duffy can be a utility guy.

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      • Hopper15 2

        10 years ago

        Duffy could be the long term solution.

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        • Joe 52

          10 years ago

          True, but I think they like him as more of a utility guy considering he can play the whole infield. And 3B is generally a position where you want some power to come from, and Duffy is not a power guy. He is listed at 170 lbs but I would be shocked if he was above 160.

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          • pitnick

            10 years ago

            I think that perception of 3B is changing some. Look at the Pirates, for example, where they shifted their power guy over to 1B and chose to go with a more athletic, well-rounded third basemen.

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        • tesseract

          10 years ago

          Not enough pwr for 3B. Good player though

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          • Hopper15 2

            10 years ago

            OBP is more important to the Giants.

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      • Rob Schumann

        10 years ago

        I am sure Stephen Drew is available..

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  5. Tommets

    10 years ago

    Mets take a look.

    Reply
    • Joe 52

      10 years ago

      You can have him for Noah Syndergaard. Fair trade, yes?

      Reply
      • Tommets

        10 years ago

        Sounds fair to me. But seriously, what do you think It’ll take? Gee? Or less?

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        • Ryan D

          10 years ago

          Significantly less

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          • Tommets

            10 years ago

            Then I’ll definitely trade for him.

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              I’m truly thankful you’ve got no influence on the Mets’ front office. There’s simply no place for him.

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        • Rob Schumann

          10 years ago

          Kirk Nieuwenhuis

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        • Joe 52

          10 years ago

          Much less, the guy was just DFA’d, a fringe prospect at best.

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          • stymeedone

            10 years ago

            Seems fair then. A DFA’d player for a DFA’d player.

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      • Cynic-Al

        10 years ago

        Yeah, they owe us right?

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      • paqza

        10 years ago

        Sure. Just throw in that Gerald Posey guy.

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    • rct 2

      10 years ago

      They should. Wright might be out a while more and gambling on MacGhee is probably better than Campbell.

      Reply
      • paqza

        10 years ago

        Flores and Murphy are both better than McGehee, and Tejada probably is too. There’s no logical scenario where it makes sense for McGehee to go to the Mets.

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        • rct 2

          10 years ago

          The logical scenario is the one I presented: he’s worth a gamble if they’re going to trot Campbell out there every day. Campbell has been awful. Playing Murphy, Flores, and Tejada at the same time might be preferable, but they have yet to even try it.

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          • tesseract

            10 years ago

            A gamble for what?? to get an aging veteran with no power who is just going to keep getting worse

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      • tesseract

        10 years ago

        No thanks. I’ll take Campbell any day of the week

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    • Out of place Met fan

      10 years ago

      He may be better than Campbell but that doesn’t make him good. At least Campbell offers some position versatility and minor league options.

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      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        Well the Mets need an everyday 3B for the reason of the season, so position versatility and options doesn’t mean anything. I’d take a flier on the guy, then look to upgrade at the deadline if need be.

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        • Out of place Met fan

          10 years ago

          Problem is he isn’t an everyday 3rd baseman. Better off with Murphy there

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          • Brixton G.

            10 years ago

            You’re taking a flier on his upside, but his past production. You claim him, give him a month and see what you need to change from there.

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            • Out of place Met fan

              10 years ago

              Claim him at 3+M pass…

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              • Brixton G.

                10 years ago

                3M is pocket change to an MLB team..

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                • paqza

                  10 years ago

                  Why would a team with at least 3 to 5 options superior to McGehee be interested? Flores, Murphy, Tejada are all better and Campbell and Reynolds are likely just as good. The last 4 are notably cheaper, too.

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              Daniel Murphy, year-in, year-out puts up numbers like clockwork representing McGehee’s absolute ceiling. McGehee’s “breakout” 2014 season was still below Murphy’s career averages.

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        • paqza

          10 years ago

          Murphy and Flores are both 3B. There are a bunch of people here who know nothing about the Mets. If you did, you’d know that the Mets have at least 3 options better than McGehee at third right now.

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          • Brixton G.

            10 years ago

            And you don’t understand what ‘taking a flier’ means. McGehee has more upside than just about everyone not named Murphy that you listed. You’re not claiming him for what hes been doing, you’re claiming him for the chance of what hes done in the past.

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              He doesn’t have greater upside than the guy that hit ~28 homers in ~160 AAA games and he certainly doesn’t have a higher upside than a guy who hit ~.330 across AA and AAA last year. McGehee would be a waste of a 40-man spot and a waste of money for a Mets’ team with holes elsewhere on the diamond. I appreciate that you’re trying to add to the discussion but between this and other comments you have made, you don’t have a strong grasp of the Mets’ roster situation though you do have a strong knowledge of baseball in general.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      At trading a 3B to the Giants?

      Reply
  6. norcalbb

    10 years ago

    YAY! no more automatic DP’s and terrible throws to first base!

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  7. scann

    10 years ago

    They should of signed Headley….

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    • Hopper15 2

      10 years ago

      dodged a bullet there

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    • Edrick Masangkay

      10 years ago

      .235, 5 hr, 15 rbi in hitter friendly yankee stadium? not sure how well that would have translated in pitcher-friendly at&t.

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    • tesseract

      10 years ago

      Not trying to sound mean but the correct spelling is “should have”…. “should of” does not exist and I just cringe every time I see it

      Reply
  8. mkb

    10 years ago

    Gotta give Sabean / Evans credit. Cut your losses as you can’t do any worse than Duffy / Arias with the bat and both play better D.

    Dream scenario would be to take a flyer on Beltre if you can get him cheaply (highly unlikely though).

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    • Joe 52

      10 years ago

      It’s not exactly taking a flier if the guy is a future HOFer. Someone would be taking a flier on McGehee because he has been so bad. But I agree, if Beltre can come cheaply enough, considering he only has this year and next left on his deal, then he is the perfect fit.

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      • mkb

        10 years ago

        Duffy may end being a better bat this year than Beltre. He’s having a tough year and is 36. He still plays a solid 3rd base though.

        Hmm, might be borderline. He’s had a good career, but the voters are pretty finicky. Not agreeing with how they vote, but he’s got to cross some threshold to make it: 3,000 hits, 500 HR

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        • David Coonce

          10 years ago

          Not remotely borderline. Beltre is the 6th best third baseman of all time according to JAWS. (Schmidt, Mathews, Boggs, Brett, Jones are ahead of him) The offensive bar at third base is significantly lower than you think. Beltre is a first-ballot HOF player easily. He doesn’t need 3000 hits (only Boggs and Brett have that at third) or 500 HR (only Schmidt and Mathews have that at third). Throw in his defense and he’s a can’t miss.

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          • Brixton G.

            10 years ago

            he said this year, not all time.

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            • David Coonce

              10 years ago

              Actually, he was writing about Beltre’s HOF chances; that’s what I was responding to. I think Beltre is a slam-dunk for the Hall.

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              • Brixton G.

                10 years ago

                Ah my mistake. I thought you were replying to his first sentence. I agree then. Other then Pujols, Miggy and Ichiro, I think Beltre is the closest thing to a sure thing that there is in this day and age.

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                • David Coonce

                  10 years ago

                  Strangely enough, because we only remember the most recent seasons, but Carlos Beltran is going to have a case, too. I don’t think he gets in, but he’s had a better career than a bunch of guys in the Hall.

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                  • Brixton G.

                    10 years ago

                    Beltran is in the same boat with Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins and Tim Hudson. So close, but there is doubt. Torii Hunter is also an interesting case.

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                    • David Coonce

                      10 years ago

                      I like Utley and Rollins for the Hall but I think the way Whitaker and Trammell got treated is probably going to go the same for them.

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                  • Rob Schumann

                    10 years ago

                    Without the injuries I think Beltran would get in for sure.. Missing that time in his prime hurt though.

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              • VAR

                10 years ago

                I agree. Beltre is an incredible defender and is a very good hitter. He has the numbers for the Hall.

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                • David Coonce

                  10 years ago

                  Especially considering how few 3B are in the HOF – it’s the least-represented position, by far, in the Hall.

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                  • VAR

                    10 years ago

                    Really. Did not know that. Thanks for the info.

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                • willi

                  10 years ago

                  Wasn’t he on the Juice ?

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                  • David Coonce

                    10 years ago

                    Nope. I mean, not in the Mitchell report, never tested positive. Unless you traffic in unfounded speculation.

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          • Rob Schumann

            10 years ago

            First ballot? No way.. Just because he is the 6th best 3rd baseman in your mind doesn’t mean he is first ballot.. Besides I think Brooks Robinson and Paul Molitor were better 3rd baseman.. Beltre isn’t even the best 3rd baseman of his generation. Seriously, Beltre’s stats compare very well to Aramis Ramirez. The only stat Beltre has a clear advantage in is hits where he leads by about 400..

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            • David Coonce

              10 years ago

              You’re kidding, right? He’s the 6th best third baseman by Jay Jaffe’s JAWs metric, which compares hall of famers. Ramirez is 58th by the same metric. Brooks and Molitor are, of course, in the Hall, and from a different generation. And Beltre played many games more at third than Molitor, plus Beltre doesn’t have the black mark on his record that Molitor does. I can’t imagine what current third baseman you would rank ahead of Beltre, unless you’re thinking of A-Rod, who probably won’t touch the Hall.

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              • Rob Schumann

                10 years ago

                So you are saying because A-Rod won’t get into the hall that makes Beltre a better overall 3rd baseman? Besides I wasn’t talking about him anyway. Longoria through 8 seasons has outperformed Beltre through his first 8 and David Wirght has outperformed him through 12. So, that would put Beltre at #4. Seager and Donaldson are not far behind though. In a few years Bryant and Franco will be forcing there way into the top 5. Before Beltre went to Texas he was a streaky player. He would have a great season then a mediocre one then a great one then a mediocre one. I do agree with you about Beltre playing without the juice though. Besides his 2004 season where he had an ops of 1.017 he has been fairly steady on his power output. So, if he juiced it was for that season only and at 25 I doubt he needed it.

                I wasn’t going by JAWS metric when comparing Ramirez and Beltre. I was going by stats. Those pesky little numbers that actually tell how good a players bat really is..

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                • David Coonce

                  10 years ago

                  A-Rod is considered a shortstop still, because he played more games at short than he has at third. That’s how the Hall works. As a shortstop, Jaws ranks A-Rod 2nd all time. And Jaws, by the way is a completely statistic-based metric. It uses those “pesky little numbers” you are talking about, puts them into context historically and by position, and ranks batters by position. It’s a pretty fascinating thing to look up on B-R sometime. And JAWS is a career metric that takes peak into account. Beltre is ahead of the guys you mentioned because he has had a much longer career. Longoria may pass him if he has a solid productive second half of his career, way too early to tell on Seager and Bryant. And Donaldson’s career got started too late for him to probably make the Hall. Remember that Beltre was in the majors at 19; Donaldson’s pushing 30 already with just 2 good seasons under his belt.

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                  • Rob Schumann

                    10 years ago

                    So when Beltre doesn’t make the hall are you going to start screaming “but JAWS says he should be there”? Having over 200 more games and 1000 more at bats doesn’t make him better than Santo.. By that standard Rose was a better hitter than Cobb..

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                    • David Coonce

                      10 years ago

                      Beltre will be a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. JAWS is remarkably accurate. Beltre will finish his career third all-tim among third baseman in hits and homers, and won 4 gold gloves. He’s a slam-dunk, no questions HOF player. Santo is a hall of famer, of course, and Rose isn’t eligible because he’s not allowed in baseball.

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                      • Rob Schumann

                        10 years ago

                        As of today he is not a slam dunk.. If he has a couple more solid years he will be..

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                        • David Coonce

                          10 years ago

                          He has 400 homers, 2600 hits and 4 gold gloves at 3rd base. He’s going in. There are 10 third basemen worse than Beltre already in the Hall. You have to compare him to the players at his position, and there’s absolutely no third baseman with his numbers who isn’t in.

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                          • Rob Schumann

                            10 years ago

                            If he breaks 3000 hits he will get in.. Tim Raines has great stats, 2600 hits, 800 stolen bases, yet he isn’t in..

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                            • David Coonce

                              10 years ago

                              He should be, though. The failure to elect Raines is a travesty, and the only explanation is A)the cocaine stuff and B) the fact that he was the second best leadoff hitter of his generation, overshadowed because his career overlapped completely with the best leadoff hitter of all time (Rickey). If Raines had played in the ’60s or ’70s he would have been the best leadoff hitter of his generation. He had the misfortune of being overshadowed greatly by Rickey. Beltre has no comparable third baseman. Even when/if A-Rod plays more games at third than short, he still isn’t getting in.

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                              • Rob Schumann

                                10 years ago

                                Lou Brock was a better leadoff hitter than Raines but I see where you are going with that. Beltre has Chipper Jones to compare with, who was hands down a better 3rd baseman than Beltre. Since he has been with Texas I would agree that he has been the best, but only marginally over Longoria (who’s injuries in 2012 is what dropped him). Before he joined Texas he was an on again off again player. Great season followed by mediocre followed by great. If David Wright can get healthy again he will have a better career than Beltre. Beltre’s drawback is that he has never been “the stud” on his team. A-Rod, Wright, Jones, Donaldson, and Longoria can all say that. He had that great year of 2004 but then he was outshined by Ichiro and Ibanez in Seattle, Ortiz, Martinez and Youkilis in Boston, Hamilton and Young to start in Texas. Now he has Fielder and Hamilton is back. I am not taking anything away from Beltre’s ability but he just isn’t quite hall worthy. Borderline at best, and that is going off of Baseball reference’s hall monitor. But he isn’t retiring today so it is a moot point. Because, if he has another 2+ seasons of even mediocre seasons then he will have earned his hall nod. As of today though he is not there..

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        • Rob Schumann

          10 years ago

          Exactly what I was thinking.. Beltre = Fred McGriff right now..

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          • Brixton G.

            10 years ago

            Beltre had HoF defense and 26 WAR more than McGriff, plus Beltre played a more demanding position.

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            • Rob Schumann

              10 years ago

              I was not literally comparing Beltre and McGriff.. Simply stating that McGriff was a very solid well respected player that didn’t get very much consideration for the hall.. Beltre will do the same.

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            • Rob Schumann

              10 years ago

              You should read the comment directly below..

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              • Brixton G.

                10 years ago

                Beltre is a HoFer. Plain and simple.

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          • David Coonce

            10 years ago

            You do understand there’s a massive difference between a 3B and a 1B and the offensive standards at each position, right? If we didn’t adjust for those then the only HOF players would be 1B and outfielders. I mean, Ozzie Smith would have been a terrible hitter for a first baseman.

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            • Rob Schumann

              10 years ago

              Ozzie Smith shouldn’t be in the hall. Career .262/.337./.328 hitter. By comparison Stephen Drew’s career stat line .254/.320/.422 or Omar Vizquel .272/.336/.352. Beltre is today’s equivalent of Ron Santo. Very good player but not a hall of famer..

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              • stymeedone

                10 years ago

                I guess you don’t consider defense when looking at the overall quality of a player, if Ozzie shouldn’t be in the Hall.

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                • Rob Schumann

                  10 years ago

                  Stephen Drew is just as good on defense as Ozzie was.. Is he hall worthy? I guess Maddux got into the hall for his defense as well..

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                  • stymeedone

                    10 years ago

                    What numbers are you looking at. Ozzie had twice the range I’ve seen from Drew. Rabbit Maranville is not in the Hall of Fame for his .258 average or 28 career homeruns. Defense for non-pitchers counts.

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                  • grapher0315

                    10 years ago

                    On what planet is Stephen Drew as good defensively as Ozzie Smith? I can’t believe that you are being serious with this.

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                    • Rob Schumann

                      10 years ago

                      Lol I wasn’t.. Just trying to get under that other guys skin..

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                • paqza

                  10 years ago

                  Keith Hernandez had 11 GG and still isn’t in the Hall.

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                  • stymeedone

                    10 years ago

                    1B is not SS. Ozzie was a step above even HOF SSs defensively Hernandez shouldn’t be in the hall, because he doesn’t compare well to the other 1B enshrined.

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                    • paqza

                      10 years ago

                      That’s completely debatable. Were Ozzie playing today, he wouldn’t even be the best defensive shortstop in the Majors.

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                      • stymeedone

                        10 years ago

                        really? who’s better? Please don’t even try to include the average at best Drew! Simmons is the only one at his level that I see. I would still take Ozzie over him.

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                        • paqza

                          10 years ago

                          Simmons is easily better than Ozzie. Better range and a much better arm. I watched a lot of Ozzie, and he was elite, but Simmons is better.

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                          • stymeedone

                            10 years ago

                            I’m always amazed at how the “current” player is always better than the “retired” player. They are both good.

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                            • paqza

                              10 years ago

                              You can find the clips.

                              Reply
                              • stymeedone

                                10 years ago

                                So can you.

                                Reply
              • David Coonce

                10 years ago

                Ozzie Smith is the best defensive SS of all time. That”s a hall-of-famer, period.

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                • Rob Schumann

                  10 years ago

                  Vizquel was a better defender than Ozzie Smith..

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                  • David Coonce

                    10 years ago

                    I would love to see a bit of data to prove that, because there’s none that I can find. Smith was better, defensively, than Vizquel every day of the week and twice on Sunday. But you also believe thatStephen Drew was as good, defensively, as Ozzie.

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                    • Rob Schumann

                      10 years ago

                      Vizquel has the highest career fielding percentage for a shortstop at .985. All time leader in double plays for a shortstop. Fewest errors in a season for a shortstop American League Vizquel 2000 with 3 and NL Vizquel in 2006 with 4. Those are just the ones that I can remember.. I am sure with a little digging I can find more.. Besides, his 13 gold gloves (which is more a popularity contest than actually being performance driven) I can’t think of any that Ozzie holds..
                      Smith fielding % through 9 seasons .978 Drew through 9 is .979. Smith errors through 9, 160. Drew errors through 9, 81. Smith PO through 9, 2337. Drew through 9, 1272. Smith assists through 9, 4639. Drew through 9, 2524. Total innings Smith through 9, 11,402.2. Drew 8,356.
                      As you can see Smith actually had more than double the errors of Drew with only 27% more innings. But Smith had more chances (almost double) than Drew. So, as you can see their stats are very comparable defensively. Smith was just more of a fan favorite and that is what got him into the hall..

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                      • David Coonce

                        10 years ago

                        I’m sorry, but fielding percentage and errors are probably the very worst way to judge defense. It’s 2015; we have so many more advanced ways to calculate defensive efficiency. I don’t know anybody that still takes fielding percentage even remotely seriously when discussing defensive ability. You do understand why Smith had double the chances of Drew, right? Fewest errors by a third baseman in a season? Kevin Kouzmanoff. Is he a better defender than Brooks Robinson?

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        • Joe 52

          10 years ago

          He’s not too far from 3000 hits. He will get there and probably finish with like 450 career homers. That’s a HOF case for sure.

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    • Sleeper

      10 years ago

      Beltre may become possible to acquire, but he’s not going to be cheap if he does.

      Reply
  9. scann

    10 years ago

    Maybe they could swing a deal for Mark Reynolds…he should come cheap from the Cards…..

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    • Joe 52

      10 years ago

      I’d rather have someone who could hit at least .200. Reynolds has proven time and time again that if you give him playing time, he will hit HRs, but strike out more than he hits.

      Reply
  10. Joe 52

    10 years ago

    Give Duvall a look, he has been raking in Triple-A. Can’t ignore the guy any longer. I know he wasn’t very good last year but the guy has huge power.

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    • scann

      10 years ago

      Agree Duvall deserves a shot…..

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    • norcalbb

      10 years ago

      Duvall is nothing but a 1B’er which is redundant on the Giants, especially when Ishikawa is supposed to come back any day now

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      • NVSportsCards

        10 years ago

        Ishikawa is the one who’s redundant. He’s basically a backup utility guy. Belt / Posey / and Arias in a deep pinch at first base.
        Aoki / Blanco in left field.
        Ishikawa is no higher than 3rd on the depth chart at any position.

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        • norcalbb

          10 years ago

          exactly, which is why they need Duvall even less…it’s going to be Adrianza who comes up next

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      • Joe 52

        10 years ago

        He can play 3B, too.

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        • norcalbb

          10 years ago

          if that were the case, do you think the Giants would have gone out and traded for McGehee and then pay him almost $5million? He failed his audition there last year in no small way

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        • Edrick Masangkay

          10 years ago

          Although, Duvall has been on fire with the bat, his biggest problem has been his 3B defense……below average range, and even more below average throwing arm. They’ve been having him play 3B a lot in AAA to try to get him to improve on his defensive skills. But the word is he has a long way to go before he can handle the hot corner in the bigs.

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  11. Jelloismeat

    10 years ago

    Hello Rivercats or Ranger blue for Beltre with a sidecar of Ishikawa?

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  12. NVSportsCards

    10 years ago

    I was never a fan of the decision to bring in McGehee. Sabean averaged out the stats on Morse/Sandoval and tried to plug that hole with an equivalent average player. Problem is, that player was having their best year in the last 4 seasons.

    As for the roster move, that just looks like more bad news:
    Strickland or Ishikawa? Hmmm. How about resigning JT Snow to an honorary contract just to plug that roster spot for now? Either move would be an equivalent waste.

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    • Brixton G.

      10 years ago

      Whats the deal with not wanting Strickland? Do Giants fans really not like him because Bochy forced him onto the playoff roster before he was ready?

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      • NVSportsCards

        10 years ago

        It’s not a good time to bring him in. The Giants are hot and as of late, they’re giving up late runs, but still winning games. If Strickland were to come in, give up late runs, and blow a game, it would sour the Giants on him. He’s got talent, but he needs to be eased in.

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        • Paul Michaels

          10 years ago

          Strickland during the regular season last year was a shutdown pitcher. It was only during the postseason that he struggled badly. He pitched really well in AAA this year and didn’t give up a homer. I think he’s ready for now to be in the majors. If anything, Affeldt is the one getting his name soured this year.

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        • Edrick Masangkay

          10 years ago

          The fact is the Giants bullpen got used up in Colorado, and Strickland is the best bullpen guy in AAA. Plus 6 of the Giants relievers are among the league leaders in appearances. They need the extra arm in the pen.

          Peavy will complete his minor league rehab in a couple of weeks. Strickland may get sent down then.

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          • NVSportsCards

            10 years ago

            That’s even less of a reason to bring up Strickland, just to send him down again in a couple of weeks. Ishikawa (IMO) is the odd man out. Bring him up, give him a little bit of time, then trade him off for anything you can get. The Giants clearly have no need for Ishikawa, they just signed him as a reward for his 2014 Playoff HR.

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  13. Shark

    10 years ago

    Duffy is ok. Giants should find a better third baseman, one like the Panda

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  14. Rays_Fan_Engima

    10 years ago

    I think a little time in the minors might help him out a little bit. Give him some time to see if he can fix whatever is wrong

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  15. Cam

    10 years ago

    Didn’t understand the signing then, don’t understand the signing now.

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  16. JHoward

    10 years ago

    Mcgehee I hope you can make that decision in less than 10 minutes. You lose out on $3.5mil if you decline the assignment….

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    • stymeedone

      10 years ago

      Maybe its not all about the money. Probably is though.

      Reply
  17. ds207

    10 years ago

    Horrible trade and signing by Sabean plus they avoided arbitration by signing him for 4.8 mill? Big waste of money, but at least Evans knew enough to cut his losses instead of hanging on to this double play machine for another five months.

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  18. NocaHoma

    10 years ago

    I am sure Hart will trade Chris Johnson to the highest bidder between Mets and Giants…and who ever “wins” can have fun with that one lol…..

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    • Paul Michaels

      10 years ago

      Why would the Giants need Johnson? They already have Duffy who is already a better player than Johnson and they didn’t need to trade for him. The only guy the Giants would trade for to play 3rd would be someone like Beltre.

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      • NocaHoma

        10 years ago

        Giants were linked in rumors to CJ in the offseason and besides they aint the only team looking for a 3rd baseman…

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        • Paul Michaels

          10 years ago

          That was before the season began and Duffy wasn’t really being considered for 3rd base. Now with Duffy hitting better than Johnson is, there’s pretty much no reason for Johnson to be an option for the Giants. Like I said, the only guy the team would consider trading for to play 3rd would be someone like Beltre.

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          • NocaHoma

            10 years ago

            See issue is, is Duffy has a BAbip of 360 and that means he is more than likely going to regress down to the league avg ~300 mark…60 points regress in BAbip will not be good for his everyday production. There are the occasional diamonds in the rough but the pinch hitting utility INF Duffy probably aint one. San Fran should ride him while he is hot, but to expect that he will maintain you would probably have a better chance of hitting the powerball than that. I am not saying CJ is better or anything just have always seen teams like the Giants reach out for a vet to get them through times when the young kids are struggling.

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            • Hopper15 2

              10 years ago

              “There are the occasional diamonds in the rough but the pinch hitting utility INF Duffy probably aint one.”

              How would you know?

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        • william032

          10 years ago

          chris johnson would have been a throw in piece for a deal involving justin upton, nothing more.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      Why would the Mets want Chris Johnson? Are you trolling?

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      • Robert_Risteen

        10 years ago

        David Wright is out with no return date or guarantee

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        • paqza

          10 years ago

          Yeah, I’m aware. So what does that have to with Chris Johnson? Anyone who knows anything about the Mets also knows that Flores and Murphy are both natural 3B. Add in the fact that Reynolds is at AAA and Tejada, Campbell, Muno, and Cuddyer are all on the 25 man roster and you’d realize the Mets have at least 3 guys clearly superior to McGehee and possibly 6 who might be.

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          • Robert_Risteen

            10 years ago

            If you are not a Mets fan you are probably not going to know that. Im assuming he is a Braves fan so he sees Wright out and a way to get rid of Johnson and get value back

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              Sorry, you’re probably right.

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      • NocaHoma

        10 years ago

        No one wanted BJ and guess who is no longer a Brave…

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    • Hopper15 2

      10 years ago

      highest bidder lol

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  19. willi

    10 years ago

    Go to the House Casey !

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  20. willi

    10 years ago

    Chris Johnson Perfect for Mets Team, until Wright comes back, then he could platoon with Duda at first , Do it Sandy!

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      This makes no sense. First off, Duda’s hitting .391 against lefties right now with 4 homers vs LHP already. And the Mets have Flores and Murphy on the 25-man who are both natural 3B. Add in Tejada, Reynolds, Campbell, and Muno, and it’s impossible to understand why the Mets would be interested in Casey.

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      • Jizz Chasholm

        10 years ago

        This guy is probably the least educated person who comments on this site, don’t get caught up in his idiotic ideas

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  21. willi

    10 years ago

    Duda is hitting above his weight against lefties, soon to enter real World by July. CJ does nothing else but hits left-handed pitching . Met lose nothing , But have insurance against Wright not coming any time soon.

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  22. tesseract

    10 years ago

    “I’m pretty sure yesterday was not the last baseball game I’ve played.”. You’ll still play some games in AAA Casey

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