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Profiling Possible Top Rule 5 Picks

By | November 29, 2015 at 5:48pm CDT

After finishing with the worst record in baseball, the Phillies will pick first in the upcoming Rule 5 draft.  The draft, set to be held on December 10th, is the final activity of the Winter Meetings. Teams have a chance to select players from rival franchises with a main rules:

  • Any player on the 40-man roster is protected
  • Players signed at age 19 or older are protected for four seasons
  • Players signed at age 18 or older are protected for five seasons

If none of those conditions apply to a player, then he may be selected in the draft. Draft picks cost $50K and the drafting team must keep a player on the major league roster for the entire season in order to retain him. Injured players must spend at least 90 active days on the roster.

If a team decides not to fulfill these conditions, the former club can reacquire the player for $25K. Sometimes, the team refuses to pay the fee, as was the case when the Phillies selected Shane Victorino from the Dodgers. There is also a minor league portion of the draft with slightly different rules and requirements. For the scope of this post, we’ll focus on the major league portion.

The Phillies and the Rule 5 Draft

The Phillies are one of the most successful teams in the Rule 5 draft in recent years. Dating back to 2009, they’ve made the following picks: David Herndon (2009), Michael Martinez (2010), Ender Inciarte (2012), Kevin Munson (2013), Odubel Herrera (2014), and Andy Oliver (2014).

Herndon, Martinez, and Herrera were the most successful of those picks with Herrera looking like a building block for Philadelphia. Many of you will recognize Inciarte, an able outfielder for the Diamondbacks. The Phillies failed to keep him on the active roster for a season and had to return him.

Teams generally select players who fit one of these profiles:

  • Left-handed relievers
  • Hard throwing, wild pitching prospects
  • Back-up catchers
  • Polished hitters with uncertain defense
  • Athletic, raw position players

Herrera, along with fellow successful pick Delino DeShields (Rangers), fell into the latter category. The toolsy athletes are probably the riskiest bucket to pick, but they also come with the highest upside.

In full rebuild mode, it’s my opinion that the Phillies will benefit most from an aggressive pick at first overall. Rather than playing the relief market, I expect them to target a possible starting left fielder.  Herrera and Aaron Altherr are the only two starting outfielders on the roster. Both are exciting young players who emerged during the 2015 season. Both also come with risk. The Phillies will want to build redundancy.

Other options on the 40-man roster include Cody Asche, Darnell Sweeney, and Roman Quinn. Asche and Sweeney are penciled in as the left field platoon, but that’s not how the team will enter Spring Training. Quinn is not yet major league ready. Given the internal options, there is room to give a Rule 5 pick a long look in left field.

The 40-man roster currently stands at 37, meaning the club could pick up to three players if it chooses. Rarely do teams take more than two, but the Phillies might be the exception. The bullpen is a work in progress, and there are enough interesting relievers to give two a look after picking an outfielder.

The Candidates

We recently cited J.J Cooper of Baseball America’s list of Rule 5 names to remember. Of those, five stand out as first pick material to me. This is not to say that the Phillies scouts won’t fall in love with another player or decide to go with a pitcher. But these are my best guesses to go first overall in the draft.

Jabari Blash, OF, SEA

This is the second time Blash, 26, is eligible for the draft. The Mariners left him unprotected last year, and he went unpicked. That’s unlikely to happen this year after he blasted 32 home runs between Double- and Triple-A.  It wasn’t a matter of dominating the weaker opponents either. After a BABIP-fueled outburst in Double-A, the righty finished with 22 home runs in 228 plate appearances in Triple-A. His BABIP actually fell to .263, yet he still posted a strong .264/.355/.640 line.

Pros: Power, athleticism, a high walk rate, upper-minors success, and plus defense.

Cons: A big whiff rate that could get out of hand in the majors.

Tyler Goeddel, OF, TBR

Cooper describes Goeddel, 23, as one of the most polished hitters in the draft. The right-handed hitter is eligible for the first time after hitting .279./350/.433 over 533 plate appearances at Double-A. He’s a well-rounded asset with some power (12 home runs) and speed (28 stolen bases).

Pros: Athleticism, youth, plate discipline, plus defense, power, and speed.

Cons: Yet to reach Triple-A.

Jake Cave, OF, NYY

Entering his age 23 season, Cave is still relatively young like Goeddel. He was once thought to possess upside similar to Jacoby Ellsbury, but injuries and time have sapped his speed. The lefty is viewed as an ideal fourth outfielder with some latent power, decent wheels, and the ability to do a passable job in center field. He hit .269/.330/.345 in 563 Double-A plate appearances. He received a brief, successful trial in Triple-A too.

Pros: Can play all three outfield spots, decent contact skills and plate discipline

Cons: More of a fourth outfielder

Zach Borenstein, OF/1B, ARI

Borenstein, 24, is a left-handed power prospect who has lost some steam. He performed well at Double-A last season with a BABIP-fueled .314/.394/.511 line in 327 plate appearances. He was miserable in a 53 plate appearance try in Triple-A. A questionable defender, Borenstein may be a better candidate for the Phillies second pick.

Pros: History of power, strong plate discipline once he adapts to a level

Cons: Iffy Triple-A track record, game power was best in 2013

Balbino Fuenmayor, 1B, KAN

Now there’s an 80-grade baseball name. As you might expect, Fuenmayor is a right-handed, aggressive power hitter. The 26-year-old is recovering from a torn ACL.

When healthy, Fuenmayor hit  .354/.386/.591 with 15 home runs in 308 Double-A plate appearances. He also had a small sample of success in Triple-A. Unlike the others listed here, he’s a first baseman if not a designated hitter. The Phillies have two of those – Ryan Howard and Darin Ruf. They might be willing to try another.

Pros: Excellent half season in 2015, power and contact skills

Cons: Aggressive, questionable defender

My best guess

I expect the Phillies to select Goeddel or Blash first overall. Both are candidates to step in and perform at a high level much like Herrera did last season. At the very least, they’ll offer plus defense. Their multi-faceted skill sets should ensure other means of production too. Goeddel is probably the safer of the two options, and I like that he’s younger too.

Remember, these picks can be traded. There’s nothing stopping the Phillies from taking a shot on both athletes. They’re liable to match the production of Sweeney who can be optioned. Asche is viewed as a trade candidate. The trade route would also give the club the option of evaluating two players during the spring and picking their favorite. It’s probably an unlikely path, but it’s an open option.

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27 Comments

  1. Mike Query

    9 years ago

    I mean I get that the Phillies have the top pick and all, but a rule 5 article that strictly talks about the Phillies seems odd. Teams like Braves and Reds have plenty of open roster spots they could try these guys out in, among plenty of others

    Reply
    • seamaholic 2

      9 years ago

      My thoughts exactly. Not to make a capital case out of it — I don’t really care — but this is one of the oddest articles I’ve ever seen on MLBTR.

      Reply
      • Mike Query

        9 years ago

        Yeah like you said not a huge deal, but I found it rather odd as well, glad Im not alone haha.

        Reply
    • amishthunderak

      9 years ago

      ***Troll warning**If I had a free website I’d definitely take the time to profile every player and every teams needs in the Rule 5, especially considering over the last 4 years a total of 50 players were drafted (like good internet trolls, my source for that info is Wikipedia).

      Reply
  2. gorav114

    9 years ago

    I really like fuenmayor for the Orioles and I dont think him being on the dl is a big deal other than not being able to give him a full spring. He can rehab just enough games to still qualify as keeping him. I just don’t know he will still be available by their pick.

    Reply
    • User 4245925809

      9 years ago

      Orioles have a successful history of selecting in this draft also.SP Miquel Gonzlez they took from Boston several years ago and has given them a few years as a serviceable starter. Fireballing reliever Jason Garcia they took last year and was kind of a project, who throws upper 90’s and has touched 100. Both were taken from Boston, right after having TJ.

      Wouldn’t put it past Duquette to go shopping in this draft again.

      Reply
      • FOmeOLS

        9 years ago

        Garcia is awful. In the AFL he had 15 walks in 15 innings or something like that. He is going to live the rest of his life at AA.

        Reply
  3. Brixton

    9 years ago

    My initial thought was for the Phillies to pick up a reliever.
    The OF already has Altherr and Herrera as the starting RF-CF combo. You have Asche and Sweeney as the LF/4th outfield combination, plus Quinn and Williams ready for mid-season. All of those players are in their lower 20’s.

    Imagine if the Phillies kept Inciarte. They’d have picked up Herrera, Inciarte and Victorino from the rule 5 draft. But they gave up on Inciarte before he even played a game…. for Delmon Young.

    Also, calling Michael Martinez ‘successful’ is a bit of a stretch.

    Reply
    • Bill 21

      9 years ago

      Phillies need to pick a player that can make the team, play regularly, even if it’s mid-game switch, have a decently high ceiling, become part of the rebuild or develop as assets with tradable value.

      It does little good to select a player at a position of need at #1 pick with a high bust potential, and limited ceiling. So, I agree with the author, here. Tyler Goeddel seems the safest choice, and Blash also a possibility. They could pick a pitcher or even 2 in subsequent rounds.

      Reply
  4. Matt Galvin

    9 years ago

    Asche can also play 3B. Could always Trade somebody for a LF. The Royals could try him in LF.

    Reply
  5. dhud

    9 years ago

    I would love to see the Goeddel in the Reds system. He seems to have the skill set to fill a definite need. The problem is, however, my understanding of the rule 5 draft is he would have to stay on the Reds 25 man roster all season. He is probably not ready nor will there be a roster spot for him to simply hold without contribution

    Reply
    • tim815

      9 years ago

      If he figures to be a “good enough” player in the future, take him. The last guy on the bench won’t make *that* much difference that often. This is also a reason that the AL gets a benefit from using the DH. The DH buries a hitter on a bench that won’t ever get used. (Quite often, AL games go extra innings, and fewer than two bench hitters get used by a team. Rebuilding AL squads can take a Rule 5 guy every year, and face almost no retribution.)

      If he fails to impress the pro scouting department for the long-term, then pass.

      Reply
    • mrkinsm

      9 years ago

      There should be more than one roster spot on the Reds 25 man this year worth “holding”. They’ll be lucky to win 70 games this year, prime time to take the gamble.

      Reply
  6. bbgods

    9 years ago

    It should say 18 and under.

    Reply
  7. Phillies2017

    9 years ago

    I want the Phillies to take Dwight Smith Jr or Teoscar Hernandez, and then trade for another pick and take Dietrich Enns. Enns had a 0.62 ERA in A Advanced. JJ Cooper didn’t think he could make the jump from A Advanced to the bigs, but he’s already 25 and a 0.62 ERA HAS to translate to something–especially when there are no control issues to speak of.
    I like Fuenmayor, but my problem is the injury. He may be out just long enough to force a full season next season, so that’s 2 years of development just gone. I like Goeddel a ton–he’s exceptionally polished and I wouldn’t mind taking him.

    Reply
    • mrkinsm

      9 years ago

      Enns was 2-3 years older than most of his competition.

      Reply
    • 3Tavgreg

      9 years ago

      If he’s 25 with a .62 ERA and no control issues, why is he still in high A ball.

      Reply
      • Phillies2017

        9 years ago

        Because hes burried in the depth chart by a ton of lefty starters.

        Reply
    • Phillies2017

      9 years ago

      My bad–Enns wont be 25 until May.

      Reply
  8. Phillies2017

    9 years ago

    I did an analysis and this is my list
    1. Smith Jr
    2. Teoscar Hernandez
    3. Dietrich Enns
    4. Tyler Goeddel
    5. Devenski

    Reply
  9. bravesmadduxfan

    9 years ago

    In all seriousness, regarding Blash, how is it possible to have a BABIP lower than actual BA?

    Reply
    • coolwinnebago

      9 years ago

      Homers don’t count in babip, they aren’t “in play”. They do count towards your average.

      Reply
    • Bill 21

      9 years ago

      Home Runs do not count in babip.

      Reply
  10. Donnie B

    9 years ago

    Just a little fun here – But Steamer 600 Projections (based on 600 PA’s) has Jabari Blash stats (if he played in the majors this year) as follows:

    600 PA / 536 AB / 68 R / 118 H / 25 HR / 71 RBI / 8 SB / .220 AVG with a 1.3 WAR

    Tyler Goeddel stats:
    600 PA / 551 AB / 58 R / 129 H / 11 HR / 56 RBI / 21 SB / .233 AVG w/ a 0.6 WAR

    Frankly – I’d be very happy with Blash’s numbers as a Rule 5 pick.
    Steamer also always projects a much lower BA than what a player usually does.

    1) R. Sweeney – 543 AB / 55 R / 125 H / 11 HR / 53 RBI / 22 SB / .231 AVG
    2) O. Herrera – 552 AB / 57 R / 147 H / 8 HR / 50 RBI / 16 SB / .266 AVG
    3) A. Altherr – 545 AB / 61 R / 130 H / 15 HR / 61 RBI / 14 SB / .239 AVG
    4) M. Franco – 556 AB / 68 R / 151 H / 24 HR / 79 RBI / 3 SB / .272 AVG
    5) Howard / Ruf – 464 AB / 61 R / 130 H / 28 HR / 89 RBI / 0 SB / .280 AVG
    6) J. Blash – 536 AB / 68 R / 118 H / 25 HR / 71 RBI / 8 SB / .220 AVG
    7) F. Galvis – 556 AB / 54 R / 137 H / 11 HR / 54 RBI / 7 SB / .246 AVG
    8) C. Rupp – 407 AB / 38 R / 90 H / 12 HR / 44 RBI / 2 SB / .222 AVG

    Rupp’s stats based on 450 PA’s
    Howard/Ruf stats based on 2015’s split stats (Howard vs RHP – Ruf vs LHP)

    Reply
  11. FOmeOLS

    9 years ago

    How can a team pick more than once?
    Would it be a direct pick, or would they arrange for another team to pick and then trade?

    Reply
  12. FOmeOLS

    9 years ago

    Not every team makes a pick. So, how many teams are picking and what’s the order?

    Reply
    • redsfanman

      9 years ago

      Teams pick in an order based on the reverse standings, like they do in the regular draft. As far as how many teams will make a selection, we won’t know that for sure until the day of the draft. As far as your other question above, teams can make more than one selection after circling through and giving each team an opportunity. Players can be selected and then traded – that’s how the Reds got Josh Hamilton years ago.

      Reply

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