10:05pm: The Mariners have announced the trade.
10:00pm: Yahoo’s Jeff Passan tweets that the Mariners will send minor league right-hander Trey Cochran-Gill to the Athletics to complete the trade. Seattle selected Gill out of Auburn University in the 17th round of the 2014 draft, and the 23-year-old reached Triple-A this past season. Collectively, Cochran-Gill logged a 4.18 ERA with 6.1 K/9 against 4.4 BB/9 in 75 1/3 innings (almost exclusively out of the bullpen). Gill dominated at Class-A Advanced but struggled in his exposure to Double-A and Triple-A hitting. He was a fair bit younger than the average age of his competition at each level, though.
6:20pm: Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle tweets that Scribner to the Mariners “sounds as if” it “is indeed happening.”
5:55pm: The Mariners “appear close” to a trade that would send Athletics right-hander Evan Scribner to Seattle, according to Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune (Twitter link).
Scribner, 30, is coming off a season in which he posted a 4.35 ERA in 60 innings with Oakland, though there’s quite a bit to like about him when glancing at numbers beyond ERA. Scribner posted an incredible 64-to-4 K/BB ratio this past season, which, when paired with the numbers he posted in a small sample of work in 2014, gives him 75 strikeouts against just four walks over his past 71 2/3 innings in the Majors.
Scribner’s main problem has been an unusually high homer-to-flyball ratio; nearly one of every four balls put into the air against him has left the yard dating back to 2014. Homer-to-flyball rate tends to stabilize around 10 to 11 percent for the average pitcher, and home runs were never much of a problem for Scribner in the minor leagues, where he has a career HR/9 rate of just 0.6 despite spending his Triple-A days in the incredibly hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League. Metrics like xFIP and SIERA peg Scribner’s work over the past two seasons more along the lines of a mid-2.00s ERA.
The Mariners would be acquiring four years of control over Scribner, who is a Super Two player (two years, 142 days of Major League service time) and is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn a modest $700K salary in 2016.
Mariners fan must be scared of who Dipoto might give up for him.
Doubt it will be much honestly.
Would be hilarious if it was Montero.
Should be some low-level prospect.
Not really as he has already traded everybody away.
Yes indeed, Dipoto has a fire sale going on, still peeved on the Iwakuma deal, #1 priority my butt….
Probably send Felix to the A’s for him?
Wasn’t this guy really homer prone last year? Replacing Carson Smith with Evan Scribner? I mean I like it in that its kind of entirely being led by the notion that relievers are among the most inconsistent players in the game, but on paper, yikes.
something like 18 homers in 60ish innings I think…. SIERA loves him though, but his FIP fell in line with his ERA. He was really good for a while (like, the A’s only good reliever last year for a while), but then the wheels fell off the last couple months of the year. With that K/BB rate though, one would think somebody could help him make a slight tweak and like I said… when he’s on, he’s mowin’ fools down.
1B also going back to Mariners?
They can have Butler.
This would be one of the A’s trades where they get a low level A or AA player that never cracks the top 30 prospect list.
It’s also where dipoto gives up a top 10 prospect
As I was saying…
#17 prospect actually
#17 prospect in the Mariners system is probably lucky to crack the top 500 prospects in baseball. So not much
I get why everyone is up in arms about the Smith trade. I think he is going to be a great pitcher, but nobody knows what money constraints Dipoto is woking under and this team has not made the playoffs since 2001. Something needed to change because the players we currently have just are not getting it done. It is obviously bull pen help differs year to year and 2014 and 2015 are proof. The Mariners were not and are not currently winning so give Dipoto a break. I think they need to clean house of all the AAAA players we have. The farm is not highly regarded and how many more fans want to see the likes of a James Jones or Stefen Romero anyway. They crush AAA, but all stink in the majors.
Look at how much praise Dumbrowski got in the trade for Carson.
Dipoto took on 15M of MIley’s salary and still gave up a great arm in the process of doing so.
He gave up Trumbo for basically nothing as well when he could have signed Flowers as well.
I agree with the Soxs getting a great reliever. They also have a $200m payroll. The Mariners needed a Starting pitcher and the price of starting pitchers is astronomical now os getting Miley at 7.5 a year is a decent deal. Who knows what Carson is going to do but a bullpen arm is easier to find than a starting pitcher in my opinion. Just look at Mark Lowe last year. Carson is a going to be a stud no doubt, but it is easier to get a bullpen arm. Look at Brandon Mauer. Very iffy as a SP and now is a stud RP. Who knows, but we need to give him time. It can’t be any worse than the last 15 years.
You do have a point sir.
As much as I hated the trade initially.
Considering what the Braves got for Miller.
Seems like one good reliever for a SP like Miley isn’t bad at all.
But rather a good one considering how much they are costing other teams.
Trumbo is terrible, and we actually got something for him.. It was either that or non-tender him, and get zilch..
“Financial constraints” means he has to take on money over cheap good players?
You just never give up cheap good players to get just ok everyday guys like Miley. You give up guys like Scribner to get guys like that, to be honest.
Starting pitchers are harder to come by than RP. The market for SP and their salary is getting ridiculous so getting Miley for 2 years at 15M and an option for 12m isn’t bad. Again, I hate losing Carson, but relief pitchers are easier to come by IMO.
Not really, the A’s entire 2015 season was sunk due not being able to find any relief pitchers.
I think there was more than just that, but there are a lot of SP that don’t do well that move to the bullpen.
It’s not like Smith is a young stud.. Getting Miley is huge, and Aro has similar stuff.. This gives the M’s a ton more flexibility down the road.. A good trade for both sides..
This offseason is probably both exciting and scary for the Mariners. The GM is making lots of moves, but you also have no idea what the heck is going to happen next
You are right instead of people losing there minds on every trade remember we probably value Mariners players or prospects more then most other people. I say save the pitchforks and torches until after the season and see where we are at.
If he was getting better players, I don’t think people would have a problem with it.
If he had more to start with, he would have been making better moves. Think about it, he inherited a 130 mil team with an aging core and so many holes (C, SP, Bullpen, Outfield), and no farm system. And on top of all that, he was expected to win. He was given a near-impossible challenge and has done pretty well with it.
Could we please just get Johnny Cueto already, that is literally all I ask
Felix/Miley/Walker/Paxton/Karns is the rotation you’re going to have to live with, I think.
Need to hold back all negative stuff until we see the final product on the field. I hated losing Smith and Kivlehan but we will see how it works out. The move that Z lost me on was the Trumbo trade, you bring in a C to help Zunino out then trade him away a few days later. Trumbo was a copy of too many players on the team and losing was not a big deal IMHO. Now we need to figure out 1st it is too bad DJ took a step backwards I though maybe Kivlehan might have passed him up in the short term. It scares me to get into a bidding war for Lind who knows who we give up. Our biggest problem is getting the young guys to develop and live up to their potential. Hopefully the new player development people can do that. Lastly I would like to see guys not connected to Dipito and the Angels being picked up.
I think I might like to see Maeda instead of Cueto. Anyone that thinks this team needs to have a hard ceiling on payroll dies not understand how much money is there. They have the money but like ask corporations they are interested in profit over winning. Time for Nintendo to get out of the baseball industry and build games instead, or sirens the money to bring a winning team here.
Scribner looked promising for a little while then lost it last year, dude has a nasty hook though. The long ball hurt him big time last year, I still think he has some upside.
But I thought the A’s were looking to build their bullpen.
Scribner’s easily replaceable, I wouldn’t be too worried.
Very tough prejudging bullpen help. Mariner pen went from first to last in just one season with basically the same cast. We know how we did with Jack Z , let’s be patient be fore we run Dipoto out of town.
So in essence, we traded a mediocre cheap guy in Evan Scribner, for another mediocre cheap guy who we hope with a little luck will one day turn into Evan Scribner? I’ve seen this story for many years with the A’s