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Nationals Pursuing Yoenis Cespedes

By Steve Adams | January 20, 2016 at 10:09pm CDT

The Nationals made an effort to sign Justin Upton but came up short to the Tigers, writes Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, adding that with Upton now in Detroit, the Nationals are in pursuit of fellow free agent Yoenis Cespedes. While exact parameters aren’t known at this time, Rosenthal hears that the Nationals have indeed made an offer to Cespedes. The proposed contract is not as lucrative as the one that Upton landed in Detroit, writes Rosenthal, although the mere fact that they have an offer on the table does speak to the sincerity of their interest.

As Rosenthal points out, Cespedes is far from a perfect fit for the Nationals’ roster. Jayson Werth is owed $42MM over the next two seasons, has a full no-trade clause on his contract and struggled with health and on-field production in 2015. Suffice it to say, all of that makes a trade difficult to envision. Bryce Harper, of course, is a fixture in the outfield on the heels of his first National League MVP Award, and the team recently traded for Ben Revere to pair with Michael A. Taylor in center field. Speaking purely speculatively, the Nats could look to trade Revere themselves or move Taylor, considering Cespedes a large enough upgrade to make an unexpected play in that regard. While both Cespedes and Harper are best suited for corner outfield work, Cespedes played quite a bit of center field last season (albeit, with some difficulties), and many scouts believe that Harper is young enough and athletic enough to capably handle center field for a few years.

However, as Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post writes, the lack of a clear fit doesn’t necessarily preclude the Nationals from making a splash. The Nats didn’t look like an on-paper fit for Max Scherzer one year ago but still sprung to sign him, pushing Tanner Roark out of the rotation just months after he had turned in a seemingly breakout campaign. GM Mike Rizzo has long prioritized a deep roster, Janes notes, and the team could mix and match with Revere in center and Cespedes in left on days when Werth is out of the lineup (I’ll also point out that Werth has quite a lengthy injury history and is by no means a lock to stay healthy in 2016). Janes also points out that the Nats had interest in Cespedes back in 2012 when he was an international free agent, adding that the team’s current payroll projects to be about $30MM lighter than it was at the end of the 2015 season.

Earlier this week, reports indicated the market for Cespedes was intensifying. To this point, the Orioles have been linked to Cespedes most prominently — at least in terms of their willingness to spend on him — but it’s unclear if they remain in the mix after re-signing Chris Davis. The Mets are said to open to a short-term deal with Cespedes, and the same is said to be true of the White Sox, who just tonight were reported to be maintaining their limit of a three-year term in their pursuit. Late last night, the San Diego Union-Tribune’s Dennis Lin threw the Padres into the Cespedes market to some extent as well, reporting that the team is “monitoring” the late development of his market.

Wagner’s piece reports that Washington’s offer to Upton was for less than the six years he received in Detroit, and Rosenthal hears the same. Furthermore, the team also reportedly offered Jason Heyward $200MM earlier this offseason. Clearly, the Nationals are open to, if not actively seeking outfield improvements, and Rosenthal adds that Nationals ownership is “intrigued” by Cespedes. Whether that culminates in an agreement remains to be seen, but the Nationals could take the approach of hoarding as much talent as they possibly can this offseason, then worry about how to maximize said talent in terms of on-field production when the season rolls around.

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  1. causality

    9 years ago

    Knew it. They’re gunna sign him. Knew it all along

    Reply
  2. pipn8ez

    9 years ago

    If the Nats do sign Cespedrs, I hope the white Sox can pry away Michael Taylor from them.

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    • fermier

      9 years ago

      Trade? In exchange for who?

      Reply
      • R.D.

        9 years ago

        Erik Johnson? Carlos Sanchez?

        Options are kinda minimal

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        • jedihoyer

          9 years ago

          take back papelbon with him and send back david robertson and a chris beck or tyler danish type prospect back.

          Reply
        • CaliWhiteSoxFan

          9 years ago

          NO WAY

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        • Los Calcetines Rojos

          9 years ago

          so white sox take on Paps contract and give back Robertson and a B level prospect??? Who taught you how to do trades.. Sox take Pap on then the package is going to be minimal for Taylor. Just like the Touki Toussaint trade, salary dumps don’t help value.

          Reply
    • rockie44

      9 years ago

      RIP White sox

      Reply
  3. ka_teague

    9 years ago

    I really hope the mets step up to the plate on this

    Reply
  4. Browntown

    9 years ago

    As a Padres fan, we had 1 minute of hope when they announced Preller was monitoring the situation, whatever that means.

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    • bleacherbum

      9 years ago

      Likewise. Would be stoked to see him in a Friars uniform, doubt it but it’s nice to hear our names mentioned with free agents of his caliber. Previous to Preller this would never happen, so for all the people who hate on him for some of his wheeling and dealing not paying off, atleast he does something. We’ve never seen it here in SD and I’m appreciative of it that’s for sure.

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    • DoolittleDoolate

      9 years ago

      Probably just refreshing MLBTR.

      Reply
      • SixFlagsMagicPadres

        9 years ago

        Maybe he also texted Jay Z to ask how Cespedes likes his fish tacos.

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    • beyou02215

      9 years ago

      I am a Padres fan, but I do not understand why the Pads would be interested in Cespedes. In a vacuum, sure. He is a very good player. But I just can’t justify the Pads spending that kind of money on another 30 year old player when what they should really be doing is rebuilding. Kemp and Shields were very, very bad moves, especially Kemp. The last thing we need is another expensive aging corner OF on what appears to be a middling-team, at best.

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      • Lance

        9 years ago

        A “bad” move is signing a player who doesn’t match the production you should expect from that person. Kemp drove in 100 runs, which is MORE than the Pads should have expected considering he hadn’t had that many RBI’s in four years. Shields had a 13-7 record for a team that was 14 games under .500. That’s an average season for JS…..a good, …solid ML pitcher. No…..Kemp and Shields were NOT San Diego’s problems last year.

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        • therealryan

          9 years ago

          A “bad” move is using RBIs and pitcher W-L record as a way to judge a player’s value. Disregarding a player’s salary or the team position on the win curve is beyond bad for a GM, especially of a smaller market team like the Padres.

          Beyou is right. Signing Sheilds was a questionable move at the time, but the Kemp trade was downright terrible. The Padres would have been foolish to take Kemp and his salary if it was given to them. The idea that they gave up something of value in return calls into question the competence of Preller as an MLB GM.

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        • mrpadre19

          9 years ago

          I won’t go so far as to say that trading for Kemp was a “good” idea but it was hardly “horrible”
          It didn’t work out last year but it could have….and if it had(made the playoffs) then it would have been in the most part because of Kemp.
          He’s the Padres best run producer which has to be considered at the minimum.
          He also sells tickets and jerseys.
          This team has to have a guy in the middle of the order they can count on to drive in runs……and I don’t think there was a player in all of baseball last year who had more “go ahead” rbi’s than Kemp.
          In “Baseball”!
          Say what you want but I’m glad Grandal is gone and Kemp is a Padre.
          Now…..we just need Shields and Cashner to pitch like 2014 and this team can at least compete.
          2015 was an anomally(hr’s allowed) for this staff IMO…….and it can only improve.
          The teams issues were pitching and a slow start(and Gyorko)
          After trading the Farm they can’t just jump in to a complete rebuild so we have to endure a “compete while rebuilding” plan….which includes Kemp at least until the deadline.

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        • hibbisco

          9 years ago

          SD finished 18 GB of the 1st place Dodgers in the NL West. They were 23 GB from the 2nd Wild Card spot..

          I don’t understand how you can say “if” they’d made the playoffs it would have been largely because of Kemp when they weren’t even remotely close to the postseason.

          He may have had a productive year, but his injury history and his contract still make it a terrible move for a team as far away from contention as San Diego.

          Just my thoughts.

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        • Lance

          9 years ago

          what counts is wins and runs…..Shields and Kemp did what you needed from them. The Padres problem last year was the OTHER players/pitchers who DIDN’T perform up to expectations. Shelds history was a guy who wins in the low teens and eats innings. For the 9th strait year, JS pitched over 200 innings and nearly doubled his wins (13) over losses for a team 14 games under 500. Kemp drove in 100 runs for a team that finished LAST in runs scored!

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        • mrpadre19

          9 years ago

          Because if Gyorko and Alonso didn’t completely suck the first two months and Shields,Kennedy,and Cashner didn’t give up a record amount(for them) of homerun balls the season may have been completely different.
          Main point being it wasn’t Kemps fault they did so horribly.
          My guess is his numbers finished just about where Preller expected them too when he acquired him.

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        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          9 years ago

          I really think one of the main reasons they went for Kemp in the first place was just to get a new designated “face” of the franchise. It hasn’t been a compete disaster of a trade yet, but it’s just going to keep looking worse if he keeps declining the way he is.

          Reply
        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          9 years ago

          I agree, this team has a lot more problems than just Kemp and Shields having off years. The division is getting better and it’s going to make it tougher for them to compete.

          Reply
        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          9 years ago

          Shields did alright, but he seems like a shell of his former self, and he’s only going to get more expensive. Also, his win-loss record is meaningless.

          And the reason Kemp drove in so many runs was because he was one of the only players on the team that could actually put the bat on the ball.

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        • Lance

          9 years ago

          what “off years” are you talking about with Kemp & Shields? Both performed as well as SD should have expected. Kemp had 100rbi and Shields won 13 games, which is average for him. He won almost twice as many games as he lost and once again, threw 200+ innings!

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        • Lance

          9 years ago

          and i don’t see how a W-L record is “meaningless.” JS had a 13-7 record for a team that finished 14 games under 500. He was the only starting pitchers SD had who was consistently good., Kemp drove in 100 runs for a team that finished LAST in the league in runs scored! That’s pretty good production. Both JS and Kemp could have phoned it home with guaranteed contracts—-but they produced at a level they were expected to produce. The problem was the rest of the team did not!

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      • beyou02215

        9 years ago

        See. This is what makes baseball fun. Having a nice respectful conversation about an issue or, in this case, a player so, thanks to all.

        On the issue of Kemp, I do agree, he had a solid 2015, which was salvaged by a very strong second half. BUT $87 million dollars (what was remaining on the Kemp contract less the money paid by the Dodgers) was a lot of money for a team like the Padres to commit to a player with a poor injury history, who was entering his age 30 y.o. season, whose defensive metrics were bad, and whose medicals showed (apparently) that the he had ‘arthritic hips’. That is why I was very much against the trade last winter and would tell anyone who would listen that it was a big mistake. Now, a year later, the Pads have what appears to be an underperforming team on paper, and a RF’er who is a year older (along with his hips), who is still a defensive liability, who appears to be virtually untradeable, and who is owed a lot of money ($83.5 million) over the next 4 years. That is money that a team like the Padres cannot afford to squander away. So, from my viewpoint, the trade is and was a really bad one for this club, especially in light of the failed experiment that was the 2015 season. The Pads spend and traded foolishly last winter at one shot without seemingly considering the long term ramifications of their moves and, in particular, the Kemp trade.

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        • Lance

          9 years ago

          That Kemp has an absurd contract is absolutely correct. There are of course many players with equally bizarre deals. SD felt they needed a big stick in the lineup and a good starting pitcher. They got both with Kemp & Shields who performed exactly as you could have realistically expected. Will either one be playing up to their contract expectations 2-3 years down the line is something we can’t know but based on history, probably not. The fact the Pads under performed last year is unquestionable. But JS and Kemp were not the ones to blame. Last year, they wanted to go for the brass ring. the key to rebuilding is getting good drafts and developing them well, which is something historically SD has not done very well. Until then, you gotta make due.

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        • mrpadre19

          9 years ago

          But see, if the trade for Kemp never happened they never would have gone after Upton or probably even Kimbrel.
          Now I realize “in hindsight” it turns out that all would have been good,but at the time it was all part of a historical offseason for Padre fans.
          Maybe you haven’t been a fan for 45 years like I have but trading prospects for “proven” major league players is exactly what we have always wished would happen.After all,the Farm system has NEVER produced anyone of note anyway….so what good is a good Farm system?
          If it doesn’t lead to major league wins than it’s only use is to use it to acquire “major leaguers”.
          Yes….it didn’t work.But that’s because of who was available and the fact Preller tried to do it all in one off season…not because of the strategy.
          AJ just learned that you can only improve as much as the players available allow you too.
          Myers’s injury and the Starters drop off doomed this team from the get go……not the Kemp trade.

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        • mrpadre19

          9 years ago

          BTW…..I’m just curious,what “is” the average contract for all of last years 100 rbi producers?
          Plus you have to consider the name recognition Kemp brought to S.D.
          I saw TONS of Kemp jerseys at Petco last year.
          Yes…you can’t use that to justify a bad contract but you can’t just ignore it either.
          Also,that deal helped get that PED using Grandal out of Town.
          He is more injury prone than Kemp and can’t hit consistently throughout a full season either.
          I’d much rather have Norris/Hedges which we never would have had if we didn’t make the Kemp deal either.

          Reply
  5. East Coast Bias

    9 years ago

    Harper and Cespedes back to back.

    Wow.

    Reply
  6. Nola Di Bari 67

    9 years ago

    You want the Sox to pry away a guy who hit all of .229 with a .282 OBP? Seriously? Why?

    Reply
    • herecomethephillies2018

      9 years ago

      Because some guys take time to blossom. Did you know that Roberto Clemente had a lower bWAR through his first 5 seasons than Stephen Drew? Taylor was a rookie, still has plenty of time to put it all together. He’s one of the few 5 tool prospects who’s anywhere near being available. Only time will tell, but he has the CHANCE to be a stud.

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        9 years ago

        That’s what the White Sox thought they were getting when they began their retool at the 2013 summer trade deadline in acquiring Avisail “Little Miggie” Garcia from the Tigers, one of those few 5 tool prospects who were available. (lol)

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      • Lance

        9 years ago

        Check out Mike Schmidt’s rookie season. Terrible. He got better 🙂

        Reply
  7. pullhitter445

    9 years ago

    Nationals will probably get cespedes, white sox hopefully will sell all assets and rebuild at allstar break. I can see the white sox shifting focus to Ian Desmond and saying that was there guy all along. They really need to add some right handed starting pitching, especially since that’s the make up of division rival detriots battery. Try to balance back end of rotation with another right handed along with erik Johnson as your 4 and 5. Put danks in the bullpen like the Cubs did Edwin Jackson and just basically filter him out, use in the event of an injury, or. If a starter doesn’t have his stuff. There are valuable arms still on the market to be hand.

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  8. bkfansler2

    9 years ago

    As a Braves fan, I really hope they sign him. He’s traded constantly. There’s a reason for that.

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    • JT19

      9 years ago

      Because he’s a good player? There are no red flags with him being traded so much.

      Oakland traded him because they felt they could part with his bat in order to get a proven playoff pitcher (Lester). Boston traded him because he wasn’t adjusting to the Green Monster that well (maybe the only red flag, but that’s not a deal breaker) and they wanted pitching (Porcello). Detroit traded him because they were waving the white flag and wanted prospects. Justin Upton was traded just as many times as Cespedes has been, but I doubt you see a red flag there, yet he was traded for similar reasons as to why Cespedes was being traded.

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      • Gogerty

        9 years ago

        As a Braves fan, I hope they sign him too, but not seeing the red flag scenario. I hope they sign him for a massive contract so they do not have the payroll needed to buyout Bryce’s last few years of arbitration to give him the massive contract he is looking for.

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        • blovy8

          9 years ago

          I think the consensus has been that unless Harper fires Boras, he’s not signing an extension anyway. But Harper has been asking for another power hitter in his junior GM sort of way, so if anything this will make him happier in DC.

          Reply
      • brave13

        9 years ago

        I don’t think there is a club house problem with him or a bad attitude. He just fell in a bad time as par time help or trade bait. Justin as has been in the league longer.you can’t use that analogy…….

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        • JT19

          9 years ago

          Upton was traded three times in four years. Even if he has the experience advantage, that still doesn’t get rid of the fact that he was traded that many times. I’m not implying any problems with that, he was traded because the team trading him was rebuilding, I’m 100% fine with that. Its similar to what you just said in that he fell in a bad time as part time help or trade bait, so I don’t see any reason not to compare the two in terms of them being traded.

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    • Roasted DNA

      9 years ago

      He’s been traded so much because his agent is looking for the lifetime contract for this man. At 30 years old, his value will never be any higher. Somebody will eventually 5 year him and load it up with options – so why not Washington. More thump you can throw around Harper the more pitches he’ll see.

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      • kbarr888

        9 years ago

        Agents have absolutely nothing to do with anyone “getting traded”…..that’s a decision that is handed down from the team’s FO (more than likely). I agree that his value will never be higher, unless he continues his performance while on the Mets last season…..theoretically he could be worth more in 2 years (if salaries keep climbing).

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    • todd76

      9 years ago

      @bkfansler2: Braves fan here too and I agree with that. The whispers are drama queen…

      Reply
  9. Matt Galvin

    9 years ago

    Taylor to Reds or Angels?

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    • slider32

      9 years ago

      Taylor would be a good fit for any of the rebuilding teams.

      Reply
  10. jabmets

    9 years ago

    Mets make the big splash the wait is over you want to fix your finances before the pitchers become too expensive do it. Put the money on the table before it’s too late

    Reply
    • ka_teague

      9 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more

      Reply
  11. tbonenats1

    9 years ago

    As a Nats fan I am okay with Cespedes as long as the deal is something like 6/120 with an opt out for Cespedes after 2 years and vesting option for year 5 and team option for year 6. Not sure that would be enough to land him but I hope it is.

    I still think Taylor has upside so I’d want the Nats to keep him – unless of course they can package him in a deal with Fedde and a lower level lottery ticket type prospect to the Brewers for Lucroy.

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  12. bighiggy

    9 years ago

    What would it take for the cards to get werth? I think i remeber thay hes from somewhere close by. I know everybody will be like why do the cards need him, but he would be a great fit to spell holliday or piscotty or if theres an injury.

    Reply
    • redking

      9 years ago

      Even in today’s market Werth is grossly overpaid. He has a no trade clause and nobody would take his contract anyway.

      Reply
    • kbarr888

      9 years ago

      Why would you want Werth at $20 million, when you could probably have Marlon Byrd for 1/3rd the cost? And Byrd has been considerably more healthy than Werth, and should give you similar production.

      Werth…… 88 games in 2015………..221/.302/.384/.685 with 12 HR’s
      Byrd……….135 games in 2015………..247/.290/.453/.743 with 23 HR’s

      Byrd had an $8 mil option declined, so he might sign with the Cards for $6-8 mil/1 year
      Of course, both guys here bat RH, as do Holliday, Grichuck, Piscotty, and Pham. Seems like they might be looking for a LH bat as a 5th OF……wouldn’t they?

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      • Gogerty

        9 years ago

        Agreed, if anything Cards would take Taylor.

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    • blovy8

      9 years ago

      Why wouldn’t the Cards just sign Cespedes if it’s only for five years?

      Reply
  13. pullhitter445

    9 years ago

    Mets ownership is disgraceful.

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    • hojostache

      9 years ago

      They are the worst owners in all of sports. They are pulling a McCourt v2.0 and MLB just pretends that all is well bc they got hit and made it to the World Series.

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      • kbarr888

        9 years ago

        Not wanting to defend them here……but they apparently have a $30 mil payment due this summer for that Madoff investment scam…….

        And they do need to make sure that they CAN extend those pitchers when it’s time….(which is coming up in 2017-18, because some will be FA’s in 2019-20 I think)

        They certainly have “taken the cheap route” this winter…..and probably won’t get back to the playoffs unless they find a secret weapon again in July…..

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        • blovy8

          9 years ago

          Yeah, I think the Mets might still have a pretty good excuse. They’d probably be better off dealing a starter for an OF when the the trade deadline hits.

          Reply
        • stephen811

          9 years ago

          Picard announced the coming allocation of another $1.5 billion to victims, bringing the total payout to $9.13 billion, or about 57 cents on every dollar that victims lost in the fraud. As ESPN reported, this is more good news for Wilpon and Katz: They can deduct 57% of their Madoff losses ($178 million) from the $162 million in gains they owe the trustee, bringing their new debt to the trustee to $60.56 million, payable in two installments in 2016 and 2017 (Fortune, 2015).

          fortune.com/2015/10/24/mets-wilpon-world-series/

          Do you work for Metsblog? Lol. Stop believing that the owners are struggling, they aren’t.. Check your facts before you spread nonsense that supports them not signing Cespedes. They should sign Cespedes, no excuse not to. All the excuses being thrown around are complete garbage. You make it sound like now they have to pay $30 million more. They got $1.5 billion reduced to $162 million and now only have to pay $60 million of that $162 million if they do it in two $30 million installments. $30 million dollars is like paying the 5 starters 6 million more this season, which would still be an incredible bargain.

          They are not broke. SNY alone is worth billions;’

          forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/05/15/sny-would-…

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    • ka_teague

      9 years ago

      Again, couldn’t agree more. Mets have three years to win and even though they will be perennial playoff contenders with that staff, they won’t go anywhere without that mvp style bat.

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      • slider32

        9 years ago

        Mets have a 3 year window and then they will start losing some of their starters, the time is now for them more than any other team.

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    • bmoregmr

      9 years ago

      As an Orioles fan from the outside looking in It blows my mind the Mets haven’t tried to add to their offense. You guys have this great pitching and could really dominate for a few years if you could just add a couple of boppers. And a New York market and their cheap? Smh

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    • beyou02215

      9 years ago

      II am not a Mets fan, but I live in upstate NY and was interested in going to a couple of Mets games last year. Then I got a look at the prices. Wow. They are incredibly high, and very high compared to the ticket prices of other teams (excluding the Yankees and Red Sox). So the point is – if the Mets ownership/management is going to ask people to pay a premium price for their tickets, then they really owe it to their fans to spend some money themselves and put an offensive team on the field which compliments their pitching, especially while they have this window to compete. I hear you out and clear, Mets fans. Ownership does not appear to be pulling its weight. It’s really that simple.

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      • beyou02215

        9 years ago

        *loud, not out.

        Reply
  14. pullhitter445

    9 years ago

    If nationals ink cespedes I wonder if they can finally get over the hump? Multiple issues occur each year there.

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  15. reignaado

    9 years ago

    Really don’t see this happening, the Nats already got Werth (owed 42 million over the next 2 years) there in left field, Bryce Harper at right, and with Taylor and new acquisition Revere from the Blue Jays sharing center. Where the heck should they put Cespedes? This doesn’t make any sense at all.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      9 years ago

      Unless revere might be on the move for rotation depth. They can probably hold onto Taylor or might want to with that control and use Werth off the bench since he has had trouble staying healthy also allows them to to keep a couple multi position guys on the roster. Taylor would probably be able to spell both Harper and Ces. Normally I would say revere. Although, Revere could probably fetch more and might be an expensive option with Worth.

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      • kbarr888

        9 years ago

        They just signed Revere…….I may be wrong, but I don’t think he CAN be traded until sometime in June…….CBA has a rule against “sign & trade deals”. I think if you TRADE for a guy, you can flip him……but not sign & flip. I could be wrong about that, but…..

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        • virginiascopist

          9 years ago

          That’s correct about not being able to trade a free agent after signing them until June. However, Revere was not a free agent. The Nats acquired him in a trade with Toronto (for Drew Storen). Therefore, they are free to trade/flip him at any time.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          9 years ago

          Technically you could sign and flip if the player agrees to it. That being said revere was traded for storen all they did was avoid arb.

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  16. TomG

    9 years ago

    I’m a mets fan and I’m luke-warm on bringing Cesepedes back. Did he turn a corner last year and figure it all out, or is he the player from the rest of his career who gives you good power (a little over 20 HR) but who’s OBP hovers just around .300? He’s got the kind of swagger and attitude that can be fun when all is going good. A Reggie Jackson-esq “I’m the straw that stirs the drink”ness, but how will that personality serve him when things aren’t going well for him, the team, or both?

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  17. ronnyalton

    9 years ago

    As a Braves fan i couldnt like this scenario on cespedes any harder . im all for the Nats signing cespedes.

    Reply
    • Gogerty

      9 years ago

      Hell yeah, with you on that one. I just hope they top the Upton deal.

      Reply
  18. peterangelosisataintstain

    9 years ago

    If peter angelos would pull another feather out of his hat and sign Ces. The O’s lineup would be crazy fierce.Youd be looking at matt and jj potentially hitting 8 n 9.its a long shot but its nice to imagine

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    • virginiascopist

      9 years ago

      I agree he would do great in Camden Yards. But don’t the Orioles also need to find a starting pitcher?

      Reply
  19. pinballwizard1969

    9 years ago

    My guess is anything 5 years and at least $100MM and a deal gets yet quick. I think Cespedes is looking to still be a $100,000,000 guy.

    Reply
    • kbarr888

      9 years ago

      Agree completely……..1st team to offer 5/100 gets him!

      Reply
  20. jmdjr1966

    9 years ago

    The Nationals won’t be signing Cespedes because of too much money tied up in overpaid and under-producing one time each an all-star players (based on one good season) such as ZImmerman and Worth.. Along with money on Gonzalez (overpaid) Strasburg – oft- injured, Scherzer and Harper, the Nats are strapped. Their rotation just got worse and starters 3 through 5 are easy to beat. Their bullpen, which was good two years ago is overhauled and definitely not better than last year. They could have signed Chapman but money factored into that non-signing. Unless it’s a one year rental of Cespedes, stop dreaming. The Revere/Taylor Platoon is like the Mets Lagares DeAza platoon. Both teams are stuck with a center field platoon situation. When the Nats grown an offense. I’ll fear them.

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    • blovy8

      9 years ago

      The Nats were 3rd in runs in the NL with significant injuries and no real additions when they happened. They’ll be ok. More of a healthier Rendon, Zimmermann, Werth could only help. Given that Span missed half the year, Revere doesn’t even have a high bar to reach, and the downgrade from Desmond to Espinosa should only last two months when Turner should be ready. Even so, Murphy is an upgrade offensively. It’s the defense people should wonder about.

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    • JT19

      9 years ago

      Chapman wasn’t a free agent, he was a trade candidate. And if they were any bit serious about signing Heyward, Upton or Cespedes, Chapman’s projected arbitration salary isn’t going to be an obstacle. In my opinion, the reason the Nats might not have had any interest in Chapman was because they had two disgruntled closers on their roster, the last thing they needed was a third closer with a domestic violence case looming over his head.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      9 years ago

      Strapped for cash they are 30 mill under what they spent last year. Gonzalez and Revere could easily be moved saving them close to 20 mill. Werth is the one contract that was bust. They have 43 mill coming off books next year. I think it’s safe to say Ces won’t break their back.

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  21. restinpeacebraves

    9 years ago

    That Werth signing was garbage at the time. I didn’t even know about the full no-trade clause, which now makes it one of the worst signings in MLB history. I’ll never understand what made the Nats do that.

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    • fs54

      9 years ago

      Not at all. His first year with Nationals was a bit down but he was still able to produce league average offense (100 wRC+ and 2.3 fWAR). In 2012, injuries took toll but when he was on the field, he produced better than career line. In 2013-14, he received MVP votes. Last year was truly the step back from his usual production. He was not only injured but he was also not performing as usual. Given his plate discipline, I have confidence he will be able to provide value at the plate if he is healthy. Health and defense are main negatives going forward. I was not a fan of the signing at the time it happened but it is far from one of the worst signings in MLB history.

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      • restinpeacebraves

        9 years ago

        His track record from Philly did not justify the contract he received. He had one, maybe two decent years. The unjustifiably high salary, plus a full no-trade clause makes it one of the worst signings in MLB history, easily. I’m sorry you don’t understand that.

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  22. A'sfaninUK

    9 years ago

    It would be funny if a team that traded everyone they had to get a 3B, C and RF (if they didn’t already have internal options) and signed all these guys, because honestly, there’s worse teams out there, these guys are nice pieces to gave:

    1B/DH P Alvarez
    2B H Kendrick
    SS I Desmond
    3B
    C
    LF Y Cespedes
    CF D Fowler
    RF

    Reds? Braves? Brewers? Phillies?

    Reply
    • hibbisco

      9 years ago

      Why would a rebuilding team sign any of those guys, let alone all of them?

      Reply
    • restinpeacebraves

      9 years ago

      Ian Desmond is not on the roster.

      Reply
      • restinpeacebraves

        9 years ago

        Never mind – I misread your post.

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  23. mike156

    9 years ago

    Maybe the Nationals know something about Werth’s health?

    Reply
  24. owlnut 2

    9 years ago

    How much is Cespedes really worth? Will he become even more complacent knowing he has a big payday coming?

    Reply
  25. blovy8

    9 years ago

    It seems like Rizzo would been happier with Upton, but if these Cespedes rumors are serious, Michael Taylor still has options and isn’t a complete player yet. It actually wouldn’t be awful to have him play everyday in AAA and have his shuttle tickets ready for the inevitable DL visit for somebody. He could stand to face some of the veteran slop throwers feeding him off speed stuff there so you’d have a better idea whether he can get his K rate down without hurting the parent club in the process. Until he can make more contact, he’s mostly potential, because at this point he’d have to hit 20+ HR and run more to make up for hitting .230 and never walking. Maybe that can happen, but it’s not much different than expecting Werth to play 140 games. Frankly, I think den Dekker might be a better hitter than Taylor right now, and if you just have MT around for defense and some random starts for Revere or Werth, that’s a waste and doesn’t help his development much, if money is no object.. Of course, they could feel like Taylor is still their starting CF, but I doubt that. Revere is pretty good insurance for Werth, and should get his 400 PA somehow. He’s no star, so shifting him to a lesser role isn’t insulting him too much. And while they can’t trade Revere, they can trade Taylor – maybe the Brewers have asked about him as part of a deal for Lucroy ?

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  26. degrominance

    9 years ago

    as much as i hate it that cespedes mite be a nat. i wouldnt go to a 4 much less a 5 ye deal on an aging slugger. Ideally. I’d like cespedes on 3 75 with mutual option for 4th ye at 18mm.

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  27. yourqb1

    9 years ago

    If the Nats were willing and able to sign Heyward for $200M, then I see no reason why they wouldn’t be willing and able to sign Cespedes for something between $120-$140. If I’m the Nats, I would do everything possible to build a winner before Harper walks. The chances of Werth consistently helping you win over the next 2 seasons is iffy at best & you’re not likely finding much OF help in the 2017 FA class. Cespedes brings instant thump to the middle of their lineup, helps protect Harper & fills a major need for them in the OF over the next few seasons.

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  28. randygibbs

    9 years ago

    Still trying to buy that ring. Hasn’t worked for them in the past.

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