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Heyman’s Latest: Harper/Machado, Braves, Shields, Odor

By Steve Adams | June 2, 2016 at 6:28pm CDT

Bryce Harper of the Nationals and Manny Machado of the Orioles are young, controlled superstars who look like highly appealing extension targets. Of course, that also makes them incredibly expensive potential candidates for their respective teams, as Jon Heyman explains at todaysknuckleball.com. According to Heyman, there’s some suggestion that it could take more than $500MM over an unprecedented term to keep Harper from heading to the open market after the 2018 season. “We have not to this point had any substantive negotiations about a long-term deal,” Nats GM Mike Rizzo said with regard to Harper. Rizzo did suggest that the team has serious interest in doing so, however. “They know what our intentions are,” he said. “My intention is always to get him on a long-term deal that will make him a National for life. At a very young age he performed admirably, not only admirably, but the year he had was historic. It’s going to be a unique deal. We have a very unique player.” 

As for Machado, he might not be far behind in value if the O’s hope to reach a deal. Intriguingly, the report suggests that Baltimore very nearly agreed to a seven-year contract with its best player at some point in recent years. That would have certainly proved a bargain given Machado’s increasingly outstanding performance, though the terms of the prospective pact are not known. (Neither is it clear what caused negotiations to fall apart.)

Here’s more from Heyman:

  • “A few teams” have checked in with the Braves on Nick Markakis, Heyman writes, but his recent skid at the plate hasn’t helped out his trade value much. Kelly Johnson, too, could become available, though Heyman adds that GM John Coppolella said of Julio Teheran that he expects the right-hander “to be on the team a long time.” From my vantage point, Markakis doesn’t have much value at $11MM per season and with apparently evaporated power. Even if the Braves were to pay down half of his remaining salary through the 2018 season, he hasn’t been productive enough to bring in a meaningful prospect return.
  • The Orioles talked to the Padres about James Shields in Spring Training but weren’t willing to cover even half of the salary owed to Shields at the time. Shields has two years and $44MM remaining on his contract following the 2016 season (if he doesn’t opt out), and he’s earning $21MM this season as well. Shields has grabbed headlines recently, having been prominently featured in trade rumors over the weekend and then suffering a 10-run meltdown earlier this week, which the team’s executive chairman publicly referred to as “an embarrassment.”
  • The Red Sox, too, have considered Shields but are waiting to see how Eduardo Rodriguez performs upon returning from the disabled list (so far, so good). The White Sox, meanwhile, would want the Padres to pay down a significant portion of the $57MM that remains on Shields’ contract (again, barring an opt out). Heyman writes that a source indicated that shortstop prospect Tim Anderson wouldn’t be involved in talks, though that doesn’t strike me as a surprising revelation; even with half of his contract paid down, that would seem like an overpay on Chicago’s behalf. On a somewhat similar vein, Heyman adds that the Padres approached the Tigers about Shields, but Detroit had no interest in parting with any of Michael Fulmer, Daniel Norris or Matt Boyd in a potential deal.
  • Shortly after the Rockies acquired Jose Reyes, the Yankees were willing to part with shortstop prospect Jorge Mateo and pay half of the $22MM that is owed to Reyes annually through the 2017 season, Heyman hears.
  • The jobs of Tigers manager Brad Ausmus and Twins manager Paul Molitor are safe, Heyman writes, though he adds that Detroit GM Al Avila has privately told Ausmus to stop discussing his job security (or lack thereof) with the media, as the situation doesn’t need any extra fuel.
  • Greg Holland could take the mound in August, per Heyman, and he may wait until that point before deciding on a team. Both the Royals and Braves have shown interest to this point, he adds.
  • The Athletics “may be a favorite” for Cuban second baseman Jose Miguel Fernandez, writes Heyman, who also notes that incumbent second baseman Jed Lowrie could help a number of clubs on the trade market. The Padres, too, are said to be considering Fernandez, he adds.
  • Rougned Odor’s agent and Rangers GM Jon Daniels recently rekindled extension talks, and Heyman notes that the team heaped praise onto Odor during his appeal hearing during which his suspension for punching Jose Bautista was dropped from eight games to seven games. His suspension has also given Jurickson Profar a chance to play, and Heyman writes that the former top prospect could be a trade candidate now that he’s healthy. Sticking with the Rangers, Heyman adds that the Phillies lobbied hard for Texas to include Nomar Mazara in last year’s Cole Hamels blockbuster, but Daniels refused to give him up.
  • The Nationals talked with the D-backs in the offseason about Gio Gonzalez, but Arizona wouldn’t part with Ender Inciarte or David Peralta in the prospective trade. Heyman writes that the Nats spoke to a few teams about Gonzalez, including the Marlins. However, Miami wasn’t keen on surrendering Christian Yelich.
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26 Comments

  1. bross16

    9 years ago

    If they could actually have gotten Mateo for Reyes then they must be kicking themselves now

    Reply
    • rmullig2

      9 years ago

      Does anybody actually believe that? Apparently, Heyman will write anything he’s told.

      Reply
      • MB923

        9 years ago

        Yep. Just like Heyman wrote that the Orioles signed Fowler

        Reply
      • theo2016

        9 years ago

        They offered him for 2 months of upton. I’m sure they would offer him for 2 years and 2 months of reyes at 22 mil(this was last deadline)

        Reply
  2. start_wearing_purple

    9 years ago

    Even if Rodriguez returns to the Red Sox as even a solid number 3/4 pitcher then the Sox still have a problem. Price, Porcello, Wright, and Rodriguez is decent enough to get through 4 out of every 5 days but a 5th man who’s more consistant than Kelly or Buc is really necessary to at least not burn out the bullpen. Also it’s not exactly the kind of rotation one would like to count on in the playoffs.

    Besides Rich Hill and James Shields who is actually a viable trade target?

    Reply
    • davidcoonce74

      9 years ago

      Well, a team only really needs three starters in the postseason; perhaps the Sox should look at upgrading the pen. Seems like far more relievers would be available right now than starters. As far as starters, Shields, Pomeranz, Teheran, Hellickson, Ervin Santana…Jimmy Nelson? Phil Hughes? Not a lot there, unless Arizona dangles Greinke or something crazy like that.

      Reply
    • 4ATalent

      9 years ago

      Agreed that they need one, possibly two starters. Porcello and Wright don’t exactly shut down opposing offenses which doesn’t bode well come playoff time. That said, there aren’t many appealing trade options (aside from Rich Hill) ahead of next year’s weak free agent crop of starting pitchers. They’re not getting better adding Shields, Matt Latos or Phil Hughes.

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      • start_wearing_purple

        9 years ago

        Wright has been a surprise but I wouldn’t discount him as a solid #2/3 type starter for the year. Knuckleballers are tremendously difficult to peg statistically when they’re on a roll. But, Wright’s periphery numbers look solid. Very little I’d red flag as extreme luck.

        On top of that one of the biggest flaws knuckleballers have is not disguising their secondary pitches. In other words their delivery for a fastball or change up looks different than their delivery of a knuckler and thus their pitches are easily tracked. Since a knuckleball pitcher is essentially relying on trick rather than the traditional approach of power and/or precision, he has to be able to fool a batter. Wright recently changed his approach to his fastballs which has lead to his recent success.

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        • User 4245925809

          9 years ago

          I see the problem with the rotation as they really have nothing beyond price, Porcello, Rodriquez and Wright. Bucholz is just to inconsistent with them contending and Kelly should have gotten his last chance as a starter.

          The guys at Pawtucket? I was raving mad when they 1st drafted Johnson in 2012, junkballer without 1 above average pitch and nothing has changed 4y later, except now his head is messed up.. There was one waste of a 1st rounder, same with Teddy Stanky in 2013, same thing, same type pitcher.. He’s another nothing not going to help, only 2nd rounder and Ball? Bingo! Only waste of a #7 overall.

          Why they took all those trash throwers with high picks all those years.. As far back as ’06 and NONE ever amounted to ANYTHING, would thing had learned a lesson, other teams did. Hitters? Excelled, but junkballing pitchers of NO use? They’d waste pick after high pick on.

          I see Mike Kopech and Anderson Espinoza as the only legit starters next up and they are years away.. Wilkerson, martin.. More trash..

          Maybe get 2-3 out of mariner’s BP pitcher Roenis Elias, but other than that? They have nobody of any potential starting use between those 4 on the 25 man and A ball.. SAD.

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        • jrwhite21

          9 years ago

          Except that Brian Johnson has the chance to be a solid back of the rotation pitcher. You need those to have a good rotation. Teddy Stank projects as a similar type pitcher. I was super excited when they drafted Trey Ball but I’m pretty disappointed with his development. I’m not even sure about kopech at this point since he can’t seem to stay out of trouble.

          Reply
    • raykraft88

      9 years ago

      If the Red Sox are willing to pay heavily I think the Braves would move Teheran.

      Reply
      • chesteraarthur

        9 years ago

        Not much better than Wright or Porcello

        Reply
      • theo2016

        9 years ago

        If by heavily you mean like swihart, owens, and trey ball.

        Reply
      • adshadbolt

        9 years ago

        The braves won’t trade him unless they get “young mlb hitter” meaning swihart, bogarts, betts, jbj, shaw, and if I’m the sox I end the conversation. There are other options that could be had for prospects

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        • theo2016

          9 years ago

          Swihart isn’t catching for them if he isn’t catching he isn’t anything great. He needs a bad team that can let him catch.

          Reply
        • alanapat

          9 years ago

          Say trade Terehan and Markakis for Betts, Swihart, and RP. Heavy haul if, maybe something else. Besides Swihart isn’t anything unless he’s catching and he isn’t playing with Boston and Braves need a catcher.

          Reply
        • TacomaGrit

          9 years ago

          We could throw in Aybar and ask for Bogaerts too, but that isn’t happening. There’s no way the Red Sox are trading Betts!

          Reply
  3. cincinnatikid

    9 years ago

    If he can prove himself healthy in the next 6 weeks how about a Homer Bailey to Boston for Rusney Castillo and Allen Craig swap of bad contracts. It gives the Red Sox another veteran starter with 2 career no hitters and gives the Reds 2 hitters who have struggled badly in Boston but would be going to a new team that isn’t going anywhere for a few years with less pressure to perform right away

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    • start_wearing_purple

      9 years ago

      I rarely get to say this about a deal for Castillo and Allen… Pass.

      Reply
  4. stymeedone

    9 years ago

    I love that Ausmus is “safe”, but being told not to talk about his “lack of job security.” Doesn’t sound that safe to me.

    Reply
  5. itsnjmike 2

    9 years ago

    Mets should consider Profar…They had interest last year. A-Cab is playing well but he can slide to 3b.

    Reply
  6. GabeOfThrones

    9 years ago

    Wouldn’t Reyes for Olivera be a decent move for both sides? Reyes could actually play 3b, and Olivera might develop some value by the time the stink of his domestic abuse arrest wears off (it won’t completely wear off, but this is still a business). Olivera’s potential upside and lighter yearly commitments would justify his overall larger financial commitment, in my mind. I wonder if these types of trades are being explored in these relatively unprecedented situations. It’s naive to think ball players never hit their women until a year or two ago, so unprecedented refers more to the landscape. In terms of dealing with this situation, outside of suspensions and fines and docking paychecks: how about the victims get half of future earnings? I won’t ask you to weigh in on the latter idea, Steve, but what about the former? Baggage for baggage trades? Who says no in the above scenario?

    Reply
    • Gogerty

      9 years ago

      Hey Gabe, I wondered the same thing. Yeah it is a sticky situation, but both teams are saddled with the players. If they could make this move, contract wise would be like the Bourn/Swisher/CJ trade. Braves would take on an additional $15.5M short term but get out of the payroll in later years. AT that point no sense in trying to be creative, just do one for one.

      Reply
  7. Lance

    9 years ago

    Harper & Machado are wonderful young talents hopefully in the prime of their careers. But in another thread, the story of David Wright again on the DL. Is it smart business to invest hundreds of millions of dollars, though?

    Reply
  8. willreily

    9 years ago

    I don’t know… I could see the Yankees being interested in Jose Reyes at the time, but not if a prospect like Mateo was involved. Even if that was offered, what would have been the Rockies reasoning for rejecting it? They had Story, Descalso, and others to fill-in at the time, and they didn’t need a high-caliber S.S on a rebuilding team.

    I have a hard time believing that trade was offered by the Yankees.

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  9. michaeljay

    9 years ago

    Reyes is likely untradeable. While his behavior and bad attitude carry a stench, it is his contract and seriously diminished play that make him unattractive in the market.

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