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Cafardo’s Latest: Beane, Marlins, Royals, Upton, Las Vegas

By charliewilmoth | April 8, 2017 at 1:57pm CDT

Here are the highlights of the latest from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe:

  • 15 years after rejecting an offer from the Red Sox that would have made him the highest-paid GM in the game, the Athletics’ Billy Beane says he doesn’t regret staying in Oakland. “It turned out pretty well for the Red Sox and I have had a great run here and have enjoyed it here a great deal,” says Beane, citing a desire to be closer to his family as one reason he stayed. The Red Sox, of course, instead hired Theo Epstein, who led them to their first two World Series since 1918.
  • The Marlins feel they’ve made a significant upgrade in replacing hitting coach Barry Bonds with Mike Pagliarulo. Bonds obviously knew how to hit, as Cafardo notes, but “communicating it and devoting himself to it became an issue.” Pagliarulo has been proactive about developing plans for Marlins hitters. The Giants, meanwhile, hired Bonds as a special advisor.
  • Melvin Upton Jr. might not remain a free agent for long, Cafardo writes. Upton hit poorly in his brief stint with the Blue Jays, but had previously revived his career in San Diego, and there’s hope he can once again turn things around. “You just never know when you get him on the uptick and that feeling is what teams are going to look for when they need an outfielder,” says one American League evaluator. The Padres are paying most of Upton’s remaining salary, so he’ll be a cheap addition for his next team.
  • The Royals began their season by getting swept by the Twins and will have to perform well in the next few months, or else the team could move quickly to deal free-agents-to-be like Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas and Lorenzo Cain. Jason Hammel and Ian Kennedy could also hit the market if the Royals were to struggle.
  • The city of Las Vegas “really wants” an MLB team, particularly after landing an NFL team in the Raiders, Cafardo writes. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred has previously expressed interest in Las Vegas as an MLB market.
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  1. A'sfaninUK

    8 years ago

    Las Vegas Rays or Las Vegas Marlins, get it done.

    Move Astros to Central, move Tigers to East.
    Move the Rockies to Central, move Pirates to East.

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    • matt41265

      8 years ago

      It would most likely be the rays to be the team to move since marlin park is 5 years old and the rays are looking for a new home

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      • lowtalker1

        8 years ago

        It will more likely be the As and not the rays. To keep the west aligned. The rays will more than likely end up in Montreal to keep the east aligned.

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        • petrie000

          8 years ago

          people have an overly nostalgic view of Montreal as a baseball market. Baseball’s likely in no hurry to get back there any time soon.

          somewhere in the Carolinas is a much more likely landing spot for the Rays. Baseball’s pretty big there in general and the population’s rising fairly rapidly. Barring that a third Texas team in Austin or San Antonio is also much more likely than Montreal.

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        • lowtalker1

          8 years ago

          You get what I’m saying though
          Montreal wants a team. They got screwed over after the strike and lost interest from a cheap owner. Carolina is full of minor league ball and I don’t see a pro team getting in there. This is something the nationals and braves would fight.

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        • petrie000

          8 years ago

          that’s the narrative, that the Strike and Loria conspired against them

          the truth is a bit more stark, unfortunately. They’re a fairly small city who’s heart will always belong first to hockey in close proximity to the heartland of the Red Sox and Yankee fanbases.

          They’d be one of the smallest cities with a team in a bad geographical location competing with a more popular sport for limited local revenue… basically another Oakland….

          and the fact that Carolina can support so many minor league franchises should tell you just how popular the sport is there. Atlanta and Washington might complain, sure, but it’s one of the most logical choices.

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        • lowtalker1

          8 years ago

          Minor league doesn’t interfere with major league for the most part
          Os fought the expos going to D.C.

          I really do not think anything will go to Carolina in my humble opinion
          I could see something in Utah if it doesn’t get to vegas

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        • pjmcnu

          8 years ago

          Montreal loved the Expos too. Hamstrung by a crappy stadium that wasn’t downtown, like several teams (who have now built downtown stadiums, like MTL will have to do). And, of course, the strike & crappy owners (the last real one – not MLB itself – being Jeffrey Loria, whose crappiness cannot be denied). Bring ’em back!

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        • petrie000

          8 years ago

          you honestly believe any owner’s going to want a stadium in a state that heavily restricts the sale of alcohol? and who’s largest population center ranks as the 124th largest city in America?

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        • astros_fan_84

          8 years ago

          I live in Austin. It’s not a baseball town, and the fans are already devoted to either the Astros, Rangers, or UT.

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        • bcdroyals

          8 years ago

          You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Metro Montreal is the same as Boston’s which puts them in the top 10. The actual city of Montreal would rank in the top 5 largest MLB markets.

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        • Kenneth C.

          8 years ago

          Buddy come back to the board

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    • TomG

      8 years ago

      The teams make sense but they’d need a name change to move to the desert.

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      • sufferforsnakes

        8 years ago

        Not the Rays……..as in, ultra-violet Rays.

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        • CubsFanForLife

          8 years ago

          This is clever. But I liked the Devil Rays the most. 🙁

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    • Sam.rhodes16

      8 years ago

      Horrible choices. Require changing divisions around entirely. Hate the idea of moving an East team to the West. A’s make about 1000x more sense if a team has to move to Vegas

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      • sidewinder11

        8 years ago

        Poor Oakland….

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        Not really, the Pirates can just move to the east and swap with whichever Florida team goes.

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    • ReppinThe401

      8 years ago

      Cleveland is the furthest east in that division. Would be cleveland to al east

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      • aceofrainbows

        8 years ago

        The AL East doesn’t need to be any better than it already is.

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    • docmilo5

      8 years ago

      That leaves one division with an extra team. 4 Divisions of 4 teams and that gives 6 playoff teams.
      AL East Baltimore, Boston, New York, Toronto
      AL North Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota
      AL South Houston, Kansas City, Texas, Expansion (Carolina or San Antonio)
      AL West Anaheim, Las Vegas (Tampa), Oakland, Seattle

      NL East Expansion ( Montreal) New York, Philly, Pittsburgn
      NL South Atlanta, Cincinatti, Miami, Washington
      NL North Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Colorado
      NL West Arizona, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco

      Top 4 in and 4 WC. Expands the playoffs and reduce the season to 154 games like they have been talking about.. 1st round 3 of 5. Next 2 rounds 4 of 7 then the WS.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        First of all they are tv people who talk about shortening the season..the owners would never go for it. Montreal didn’t and couldn’t maintain a team. I mentioned Vegas as an option for the Rays in a previous article and people scoffed. MLB has the right number of teams and adding instead of moving 1 or 2 doesn’t make sense.

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        • docmilo5

          8 years ago

          I get it. Just trying to make it all work. Just last week there was a group talking about having money to get a franchise in Montreal. Yes, it didn’t work before but Washington failed a couple of times, too. (Rangers/Twins).

          I think a lot of folks would like shortened seasons. Including the players. The extra playoff money gets spread out to make up for the loss of 8 games.

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      • Tiger_diesel92

        8 years ago

        Don’t mix football with baseball it’s stupid enough how playoff teams are made already

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      • LA91744

        8 years ago

        Expansion works well there’s so many good players unsigned and in the minors. The league needs to make the DH rule for NL.

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    • redsfan48

      8 years ago

      I hate the idea of moving a team. The only way this works is a 2-team expansion (probably Vegas and Montreal would be the most likely places)

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      • docmilo5

        8 years ago

        They still need to realign the divisions so you don’t have 2 divisions with an extra team. Or they could just go back to 8 AL/NL West and 8 AL/NL East and take the top 8 into the playoffs.

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    • petrie000

      8 years ago

      Las Vegas A’s makes the most logistical sense

      Oakland’s a dead-end market as long as the Giants are in SF, and you wouldn’t have to rearrange the divisions by shifting an east coast team to the west coast

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    • dlevin11

      8 years ago

      Seems like a perfect — Las Vegas Rays in yet another domed stadium

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    • natsfan3437

      8 years ago

      What if you move the rays to Charlotte or another major city in the Carolinas (north or south) and they stay in the same division. I’m not from that area so I don’t know who is the main market team for that area (fan favorite).

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      • GeoKaplan

        8 years ago

        I am from CLT market. The White Sox AAA team just built new stadium downtown three years ago, and it doesn’t look capable of being expanded significantly beyond its 11,000 capacity. It would need to be tripled at minimum in order to have enough tickets to sell to MLB games, and I don’t think there is enough land upon which to expand.

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    • JacksonM_15

      8 years ago

      Athletics makes more sense

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  2. piratesthisyear

    8 years ago

    Maybe MLB adds 2 teams. Vegas and once again Montreal.

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    • petrie000

      8 years ago

      expansion isn’t a good idea when you’ve already got current teams in unsustainable markets

      Reply
  3. dynamike

    8 years ago

    Vegas Rays, Vegas Marlins? I’m ok with that, as long as they take The other mention in the article! Billy Beane! Get him out of Oakland! Please, I’m begging!

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      There is no way the marlins go anywhere. They just got a new ugly stadium and a long lease with the city

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      • petrie000

        8 years ago

        and it’s a big media market in a fairly populous state, so it’s too soon to pull the plug on it until seeing what they can do with a real owner in charge

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  4. jdgoat

    8 years ago

    The MLB in Vegas will completely destroy any interest they had in hockey. The NFL already kind of screwed over the NHL, the MLB would just pile on it. The only way the NHL team had a chance in surviving was if it could establish a fan base before the others. No chance they can do that now if there is a team moving there.

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  5. JeD242

    8 years ago

    Las Vegas Athletics

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  6. bleacherbum

    8 years ago

    Upton Jr. Back to San Diego? They are paying him already. Why not? 4th outfielder until Dickerson gets back.

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  7. dust44

    8 years ago

    As much as I don’t wanna c the As move from Oakland. There colors of green and gold kinda fit in Vegas

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  8. mookiessnarl

    8 years ago

    It would be interesting to see how Beane did with a little more money.

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  9. arc89

    8 years ago

    Vegas? That is funny since the raiders contract will end up costing each Vegas property owner $1000 + I don’t see any team going to Vegas soon. The contract the Raiders signed is a very bad deal for Vegas. Money that did go to the schools and transportation from hotel taxes now go to the raiders. That money will be now taxed on home owners. So Vegas people celebrate until the bill comes due on your higher taxes.

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    • nysoxsam

      8 years ago

      I didn’t realize that. if accurate. Simply sad how people with the fiduciary obligation of protecting their constituents simply screw those same taxpayers. Thank God for great home viewing options today. Even when offered free tix, I choose not to go. $10 beer, $40 parking? Most expensive part of family cable, ESPN and the regional sports networks. Absolutely amazing and not in a good way.

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      • bcdroyals

        8 years ago

        It definitely is not accurate. He is going off of a report by someone who was running for some political office in Nevada and ran his mouth and then Slate took it as truth and reported on it. It is fake news.. The tax is a new hotel tax and doesn’t replace anything that was in place before it. Also, there is no new property tax and I have no idea where he got that information from.

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      Vegas won’t be able to support 1 team let alone a 2nd even more a third. Most people in vegas are broke

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  10. SamFuldsFive

    8 years ago

    Highest paid GM? Hasn’t won a thing.

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  11. Connorsoxfan

    8 years ago

    Oakland is gonna be the new destination to move to in 20 years… It’s like now where NHL fans want someone back in Quebec, the NFL got the Rams in LA, and MLB fans want back into Montreal.

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  12. sfu13

    8 years ago

    As a White Sox fan who is relocating to Las Vegas for a job, give us the Sox! Chicago doesn’t care about them anyway and don’t need two baseball teams. The Pale Hose will be loaded by 2019 and ready to put a winning product on the field. They can move to the AL West and the Astros can move to the Central. Boom. Done.

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  13. qbass187

    8 years ago

    Bad move Beane

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  14. agentx

    8 years ago

    Overly simplistic to say “Montreal didn’t and couldn’t maintain a team” without acknowledging the impact of Jeffrey Loria’s refusal to negotiate an English-language broadcast deal as part of his successful attempt to scuttle that franchise, buy the Marlins from John Henry at a discount so the latter could buy the Red Sox, and sell the Expos to MLB for scrap. Loria and Pohlad each profited nicely in the end from all that contraction talk.

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    • NickinAtl

      8 years ago

      Don’t forget crooked selig in all of this – worst mlb commissioner in my life. Which is really saying something, since i have the memories of kuhn.

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  15. julyn82001

    8 years ago

    Beane is not the problem… A’s top brass is…

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  16. mike156

    8 years ago

    Money talks to the people who run MLB–especially taxpayer money. LA showed it was willing to spend for football, so it’s just a question of how much more they are willing to give away.

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  17. tnate17

    8 years ago

    Yeah, let’s move 3 teams around for one joke of a franchise. The real move should be to Montreal where there is already a market and a fan base waiting for a team. How many Montreal exhibition games have been sold out now?

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  18. d3rasp

    8 years ago

    Lol carolinas, Sure guys. Guys dont know enough about the montreal situation to comment like that. They have a new downtown location ready to build a stadium, on the canal. Beautifull location, the only problem would the parking. 350k attendance in the 2 pre seasons games they host at the big O every year, Which was way to far from the city core in the first place. They have an intrest group thats worth billions that is waiting out untill its feasable, which is an entity associated with the provincal goverment. The small metro pop comment is ridiculous. Montreal is the Vegas of canada. I would bet on expansion but they will get a team within 10 years. 55k a spring traing game is no joke. Ive never see so many grown ass men cry being at the big O at a Jays – Pirates game, hilarious.

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