6:25pm: Houston may actually be setting its sights elsewhere at the moment, according to Jon Heyman of Fan Rag (Twitter links). Indeed, he says it’s not even clear if the sides are engaged presently in “serious talks.”
He adds that the Athletics have “named their price” on Gray with the Yankees. While there’s no indication that those two clubs are near to a deal, that certainly suggests it’s still an open situation.
10:28am: Trade talks between the Astros and Athletics pertaining to Sonny Gray are “heating up,” according to MLB.com’s Jon Morosi (Twitter links). Morosi adds that while Houston is in talks with the A’s, the Astros are also maintaining interest in trying to work out a deal that would net both Justin Verlander and Justin Wilson from the Tigers.
Rumors connecting the Astros to Gray date back to the offseason and have been persistent throughout the regular season. The Astros’ roster lacks a clear need, though most reports indicate that if they’re to make a splash, it’d be for someone that could step into the postseason rotation. Gray certainly fits that bill, as he’s rebounded from a triceps injury in 2016 and a lat strain earlier this season to look more and more like his old self in recent months.
Over the past two months, Gray has made 11 starts and totaled 68 1/3 innings with 9.0 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 and a 54.9 percent ground-ball rate. The resulting 3.56 ERA is solid but appears unspectacular, however the Athletics have also backed Gray with one of baseball’s worst defenses. Fielding-independent metrics like FIP (2.87) and xFIP (3.12) are much more bullish. It’s also worth noting that Gray’s past month has been especially impressive, as he’s posted a 1.62 ERA in his past 33 1/3 innings across five starts.
If talks with the Athletics do come to a head, the Astros will be getting a boost not only for their 2017 postseason chances but also through the 2019 season. Gray is earning just $3.575MM in 2017 — a slight silver lining resulting from last year’s injury troubles — and will be eligible for arbitration twice more before hitting the open market in the 2019-20 offseason. He’d slot into the Houston rotation behind 2015 Cy Young winner Dallas Keuchel and righty Lance McCullers, who are controlled through 2018 and 2021, respectively.
The talks for Verlander and Wilson are another story entirely, as the hurdles involved with a potential Verlander trade have been well documented by this point. The 34-year-old Verlander is having a down season with more than $65MM owed to him through the 2019 season, and he also has a full no-trade clause that would allow him to veto any deal. The Tigers wouldn’t be able to both shed Verlander’s salary and command a significant prospect return for him, and given his status as an icon in Detroit, it’d be a tough sell to the fans to simply move him to shed his contract.
Adding Wilson to the talks would obviously sweeten the pot and could allow the Detroit front office to extract a more lucrative return, though they could potentially do better simply by trading Wilson in a standalone deal. Interest in the dominant setup-man-turned-closer has been extremely strong this month, and he stands out as Detroit’s best trade chip. Unlike J.D. Martinez, an excellent player that nonetheless commanded a lukewarm return due to a lack of a market for his services, more than a third of the league could conceivably have legitimately strong interest in Wilson.
What’s the package going to look like?
Yeah trade talks were “heating up” between the White Sox and Red Sox for Frazier the other day and we see how that worked for Boston.
Go Yankees!! Brought home the Todd-father!! Better yet, returned Houdini back to where he belongs in the Bronx and Kahnle is the icing on the cake!! 🙂
yeah but still no starting pitching
That is why they aquired bullpen help. The starting pitching available sucks.
Still no starting pitchers lol
The Todd Frazier trade for the Yankees made no sense. Bringing the extra bullpen help was a necessity but they did not need another third basemen who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. With is .206 batting average, sure his power numbers are better than headley but I would not consider it much if an upgrade at the hot corner. They are still in the market for a first basemen which was a main point along with fining another starter, so I don’t really see the good in the trade besides the bullpen help, which they could have got for less the price
One will likely play at 3B and the other at 1B. Headley/Frazier aren’t playing that bad (plus the lack of a 1B option) to say that only one is playing at a time. If Frazier was just going to push Headley to the bench/come off the bench himself, the Yankees likely wouldn’t have taken him in the first place.
my friends uncle’s coworker said he knows the astros groundkeeper who knows a guy in the gm’s office who said this is going to happen.
i know him too. you talking about Shaun right? that guy is such a jokester.
remember that time he …..
He also told me that Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors last night.
Time for Theo to swoop in!
A-Rod all over again
Not that I’m too angry about that at this point
If the braves are gonna get him they need to start talking if we lose to the dodgers tonight we need to pick up the pace
Verlander? That’d be a haul, would he waive this ntc?
I’d assume he’d waive it. he wants a ring now. Houston has a good shot for the next few years. Detroit does not
What would Houston give up for JV and Wilson?
Fisher, Paulino, Alvarez
Detroit would have to eat some money for that to happen (also not sure anyone wants Paulino rn)
his value is low because of the suspension thus why I think he gets included. a good prospect who was a top 100 prospect this year who’s value is lower because of his stupidity.
And yes certainly tigers can eat some.money but probably not much. the package is similar to Quintana and verlander comes with wilson
Can Paulino be traded while he is suspended?
If you wanted to argue his value is low because of the suspension, couldn’t someone just as easily argue that his value was high because of the steroids?
not arguing his value, since he probably has the best curveball the organization has seen since Wandy Rodriguez. I’m seriously asking if an MLB team is allowed to trade a player while they are suspended.
Not a chance the Tigers get that for JV unless they eat at least half his contract. You can’t compare him to Quintana when Quintana is in his prime and signed for well below market value.
Its an assumption. The only thing JV doesnt wanna be apart of is a full rebuild. Dont spread rumors
Gray is gunna take Tucker to get started. Do they part with him?
Yanks will jump in and grab Gray for package centered around Jorge Mateo and others wouldn’t be surprised if we trade Betances to get a pitcher.
Trade makes too much sense not to happen. Either Martes and Tucker straight up or Martes, Fisher, and another solid prospect.
keep Tucker in Houston! take anyone else
They’re obviously going to ask for Tucker. But if the Stros stand firm it can still get done around Martes, Fisher, and 2 others. They’ll just be better than throw ins like they’d get if Tucker were in it.
I don’t like Martes personally, I dont see the hype regarding him. He’s overweight.
Stop! I personally don’t like you commenting on a topic you don’t know anything about. The kid is 21 years old!
This dude “personally” doesn’t like it when people comment on stories? Wtf? Does he not know what “personally” means or is he just a YUGE weirdo??
A’s would be pelvic thrusting all the way to the bank if Gray nets them Martes and Tucker.
10/10 visual
Billy Beane was a FV 80 pelvic thruster as a prospect so I assume it would be an amazing sight.
Not martes but Forrest Whitely. Shoot for the moon. Martes isnt that good. Im low on him
I think if the braves lose the first two to the dodgers and he hasn’t got traded the braves will start making some calls
I don’t think playing the Dodgers will make or break ATL’s season. They know they can make up a couple games against a lesser opponent. Going into Dodger Stadium to try to take a series is a big ask to validate a season. Not trying to be arrogant, but they play their best at home.
It does make or break the season with how well the cubs are playing
To sell?
I am surprise that the Astros aren’t talking to the Braves about Tehran, Vizcaino,Phillips deal.
why on Earth do the Astros need Phillips???
He can be a good replacement for Carlos Correa until he get back.
You do know Correa plays SS and BP is at 2B. BP is not going to like a position change. Position changes and day games make BP angry.
They have two solid replacements in house. No thank you on BP.
More importantly, their lead is so huge that any minor league SS could fill in until he gets back and they’d still make the playoffs. Why trade for an unnecessary replacement?
Ehh because Gray is a lot better than Teheran and they don’t have to worry about an NL pitcher switching over and getting rocked. Yes they’d have to give up less for Teheran but they’re trying to win a World Series.
Sports who would the braves get in the deal I’m seriously asking cause I’m interested in it
The Braves might able to get Derek Fisher, Garrett Stubbs and 2 lower level prospect. Fisher is the 4th rated prospect in the Astros system while Stubbs ranked 11th he also a catcher and the Braves need a young catcher.
Shoot for Marten and Tucker and then don’t trade Teheran because we won’t get that level of package. No need to ship out a controllable arm unless the package is wow worthy.
Martes obviously
I don’t see the Braves trading Teheran unless they have a plan to replace him that doesn’t involve an untested rookie.
Maybe because Teheran is bad, Vizcaino isn’t a top closer, and they have 0 need for Phillips
If you don’t know what the plan for the braves is don’t put nose in saying just because you go after grey you are trying to contend this year
excellent point. people are forgetting Gray is controlled for two more seasons..
I’m not saying they get him but it would be smart to try it if they don’t like the offer the braves say than forget it
of the 2 seasons, ATL will be competitive for 1. grays arm could fall off by then. its a bad move unless he comes cheap (he wont)
Teheran is going to Royals or Astros.
Mam if Astros get these 3 pitchers there farm is going to be bushwhacked
Verlander and Wilson for Tucker and a throw in?
I consider that a pretty fair deal.
We’ll even throw in some pizzas if it helps!
There is no way JV and Wilson return a 60 grade prospect in Tucker. Think lower, much lower. More like 50 grade prospects unless Detroit eats a lot of money.
So are we talking Fisher or even lower?
Excuse you. JV is a proven ace and J wil is the first suitable closer Detroit has had since papa grande in 2011. Their values as Tigers are very high. Whoever wants them better overpay
JV is 34 and having an averagish season while making the rest of his $28 million salary this year, and owed $56 million for his age 35 and 36 seasons. He has been a great pitcher, but at this point of his career doesn’t look to be worth his salary.
As for Wilson, we saw earlier today what type of return the Tigers should expect for a good, not elite RP with 1.5 years of control remaining. The Marlins received a 50 grade, two 45 grade and a 40 prospect for the very similar Phelps. Below are Wilson and Phelps stats out of the bullpen since the start of 2016. Without looking it up, do you know which pitcher below is Wilson and which is Phelps?
95 IP, 10.95 K/9, 4.03 BB/9, 0.74 HR/9, 2.80 ERA, 3.15 FIP, 3.44 xFIP
109 IP, 10.93 K/9, 2.95 BB/9, 0.95 HR/9, 3.61 ERA, 3.10 FIP, 3.34 xFIP
Avila can hold out hope that some team will overpay. Unfortunately for Tiger fans when no team pays the reportedly high asking price, it will just slow down the rebuild further and cause the slow death of this team to continue longer than necessary. Being mediocre with a rapidly aging team and bottom 5 farm system is not a good place to be as a fan.
Was a proven ace, but now he is a head case.
And to fellow Tigers fans that say he was our best pitcher–Mickey Lolich was the best pitcher we had.
Greg Maddux is a proven ace too, want him?
Trading JV when hes having a down year, one year removed from a cy young worthy
Campaign. Smart
he’s not having a down year, he’s aging. this is normal. look at his 4 year trend. last year was the outlier.
How about this trade:
Astros get J. Teheran and LRP Sam Freeman
Braves get Colin Moran, Forrest Whitley and Franklin Perez
Moran is the Braves new 3B and Whitley and Perez are add to the stacked farm the Braves have and can be used as part of a deal to grab Gray from the A’s.
or the astros just use that package to get gray themselves
Could happen as well nobody knows for sure
all depends on how the season turns out with Matt adams at first and freeman at 3rd
The Braves when it come to 3rd baseman they are bloated loaded the Braves Austin Rally in AA they have Rio Ruiz in AAA Gwinnett. Kevin Maitan who might be moved up to A ball before the season is over with.
Braves are so loaded at they have to move their MVP, someone that hasn’t played the position since high school, to learn on the job while coming back from a wrist injury. So loaded. Ruiz isn’t sticking, Riley is suspect even in AA where he’s not making necessary adjustments and Maitan is so far off you need to start a new paragraph when speaking about him.
they moved freeman to 3B so adams could get more AB and build value.
also, riley, ruiz, and maitan arent MLB ready. however, that doesn’t mean the farm isn’t stacked.
That’s what I’m saying they have prospects for grey
but why?
gray in 2017-good
braves in 2017-not good
gray in 2018-probably good
braves in 2018-probably mediocre
gray in 2019-who knows, hes a SP
braves in 2019-probably good
gray in 2020-free agent
braves in 2020-good, not paying for a FA SP
it’s not at all a good fit. wait a year or 3.
No need to do that from our perspective. Wow us or we keep Teheran. Id rather keep the controllable arm than take quantity of mediocre prospects.
Whitley and Perez are no mediocre prospects
Whitley is a decent second piece and not a headliner. Perez is filler
Perez is the same type of filler that Mike Soroka would be in a trade. What type of player would you expect back in return for Soroka? That’s the same type of return Houston should expect back for Perez.
Hahah good one bud. Soroka is dominating AA, and Perez just got out of high A. Not close to comparable actually
BA’s midseason list has them ranked #32 and #33. Last season, both players were 18 in A ball. Soroka had a 3.02 ERA and 2.78 FIP, while Perez had a 2.84 ERA and 2.36 FIP. This year, Soroka got bumped to AA and has had 2.38 ERA and 3.09 FIP, while Perez has had a 2.98 ERA and 3.38 FIP and has now been promoted to AA. Both are 55 grade pitching prospects. You play Brave’s homer and think that Soroka is great while Perez is garbage, but in reality they are virtually the same prospect.
Why wouldn’t the Astros just trade for Gray themselves? Why would they want a bad pitcher in Teheran. 2 top 50 prospects+ for a pitcher with a 4.5+ ERA and 5+ FIP. What a time to be selling a pitcher
You know who I’d love for Houston to go after? Michael Fulmer and Justin Wilson from Detroit. Would take a TON but Astros have the prospects and the opportunity…may never be a better time to make a WS run. Hypothetically, who says no?
Houston trades: Martes, Tucker, Franklin Perez, Michael Feliz and JD Davis.
Detroit trades: Michael Fulmer and Justin Wilson.
Fulmer?! Heck, no! He’s the only player the Tigers have to build around. Boyd and Norris are inconsistent.
But a rebuild is going to take awhile due to lack of a farm system and lack of money. Why waste 2-3 years of Fulmer, when you could get 3 top tier prospects for him.
If NY was willing to do Fulmer to Torres, Mateo and a quality pitching prospect, Detroit would be a fool not to do it. It would improve our outlook on 2019 and beyond significantly. (2018 is already a loss)
Not even Avila is that stupid to listen to that offer. Fulmer goes for a kings ransom…better than the sale haul.
Lol. No.
I love my Stros, but we’re not getting Fulmer without Bregman being involved. Deal would probably look like Bregman, Fisher, Martes, Perez, Davis for those Wilson and Fulmer.
Well as a tigers fan I know that they won’t deal Fulmer unless it’s franchise altering return so with that being said it would have to start with 1-2 major leaguers either Bregman or Musgrove+AJ Reed I would think. Then I know that they are enamored with Forrest Whitley and Derek Fisher so it would have to include both. The philosophy for them is “2 Micheal Fulmer for one” so it would have to include Martes with the hope being that Whitley and Martes end up being major league studs. I think they’d also want Daz Cameron and anywhere from 1-4 mid to low level prospects depending on what they get from their scouting department. The price tag is very steep, but Tigers have all the leverage and if they don’t fall out of their chairs when they hear the offer they hang up the phone…my guess is that they plan to shop him at the winter meeting where they expect more suitors but if the Astros offer something absurd I’m fairly confident that the Tigers will accept. It’s really unlikely that Justin Wilson will come in the same deal tho
Haha not even close
If I was the Tigers, I would send Fulmer over and wish him the best in Houston. That’s a 60 FV OF, 2 55 pitchers, 45/50 near MLB ready 3B and 4 years of a 24 year old back of the bullpen pitcher. Fulmer is good, young and controllable, but this is the kind of return the Tigers need to jump start their rebuild.
Why would we need a third baseman?
Castellanos and Lugo already fit that bill.
Castellanos is a below average player with only 2.5 years of control left. At this point, the Tigers should take all the talent they can and worry about positions later. They shouldn’t be worried about trying to fill holes right now.
I can’t stand Castellanos, but he’s not below average…
Cubs are either going to get grey or Verlander
Cubs won’t get JV, they already said they weren’t interested and I don’t blame them.
JV isn’t that good and his contract is death.
His contract is bad otherwise he’s still got it
Contracts can be made to go away, you know, how much so is entirely up the trading team. The problem is his performance this year so far (and his ability to block any trade).
Yes they can. Tigers chip in $20MM and his deal looks fine. Done.
Cubs can’t offer A’s what the Astros, Brewers, Dodgers, Yankees, and Twins can:
Top 100 prospects.
If Astros get verlander and gray, this is their rotation
Keuchel
Verlander
Gray
McCullers
Flip McCullers and Verlander…
JV wont
*** waive his ntc to become a 4th starter in any rotation. Know that
I didn’t know JV set the rotation
He doesn’t have to if he can reject a trade there.
Then he won’t be going to the Astros along with Gray (which won’t happen anyways). The Astros aren’t stupid enough to pitch him in front of McCullers and/or Gray. If he wants to cry about being the 4th starter on a championship team, that’s not the kind of guy anyone wants in their locker room.
And it’s not like they’re going to say – “Hey JV. We’re thinking about trading for you. Will you waive your NTC to be our 4th starter?” They would just trade for him, he would agree or not agree, and then they’d set their rotation from there. He can’t go back and say just kidding after accepting.
how will he know his rotation slot prior to the trade? also, if he’s that much of a diva, then he doesnt want a ring.
My uncle works for the Cardinals & he told me the Astros are close to getting Gray based on the emails he’s seen.
Lol
LMAO
Crying. You win today
Hah! Espionage. Classic.
Hats off and to the left to you sir.
That rotation would mean World Series
Quintana netted the Cubs #1 Eloy Jimenez & #2 Dylan Cease plus some throw-ins.
So Gray should net the Astros #2 Kyle Tucker, #5 Forrest Whitley & #29 Jorge Alcala.
This is a fair return for Oakland to rebuild for the future. This helps the Astros compete for WS now and for several more controllable years from Gray.
Except Gray isn’t as valuable as Quintana. Replace Tucker with Fisher and that sounds right.
I don’t know about that. Derek Fisher is a retired nba player that turned to baseball. How valuable can he be?
If I’m the A’s, I’d request prospects that either have major league experience or are close to breaking that threshold. The prospects you mentioned are 2-3 years away from the show. Yes, they have tremendous potential and are worthy of their rankings; however, they each need more seasoning. The Astros’ depth within their farm system is big reason that the team is in 1st place with a huge lead.
Here is what I would request from the Astros if I was Billy Beane – RHP Frances Martes, RHP Joe Musgrove, OF Derek Fisher, RHP Kevin Comer, and RHP Rogelio Armenteros.
Fisher hurts because he would slot in for a retiring Beltran next year, but if I’m the Astros I take that deal, but would try to talk Beane into taking Hernandez and Preston Tucker instead of Fisher.
Tucker and Whitley aren’t available.
Oakland in my opinion would be wise to deal with Houston as they have 6 guys that would be playing right now in the bigs if they were on any of about 20 other teams.
Colin Moran, Tony Kemp, Teoscar Hernandez, Tyler White, Derek Fisher etc…. would all jump right into their 25 man roster.
The problem with a deal in my mind, is I think Houston wanted Gray and Doolittle. So Houston might be looking elsewhere to make a deal like Verlander and Wilson, where they can address the rotation and the pen.
In the end, I think if McHugh looks good Saturday and Kuechel looks good in his next rehab start, Houston only looks to add bullpen pieces.
Addison Reed and Jerry Blevins would fit very nicely.
Peacock goes back to the pen, Sipp gets DFA, Feliz and Martes are either included in deal or apart of the trade.
If I’m the A’s, the trade doesn’t happen without Tucker, period. I’d also push HARD for both him and Whitley. Without Tucker, Gray goes somewhere else.
JV and J-Will would most likely mean both Whitley and Fisher headlining it.
I don’t understand dealing sonny to the Astros. why would Oakland want to help the Astros out long term? I would understand as a rental piece but not a pitcher who is controllable. I feel (and some will laugh) that Oakland is 2 years away from being a really good team. we should extend Sonny and keep him as a veteran pitcher for the new guys coming up. If this trade happens we need proven AA and AAA players to help once the rebuild has happened. Otherwise we will be in the same boat as we were in our last playoff run, shipping youngsters for veteran pitchers who let you down in a wildcard game.
Came to say similar.
I think because it’s an intradivisional trade, the price has to go up some, not much, but at least some.
I love your optimism, but Beane himself has said that he feels it is time to actually fully commit to a tear-down and rebuild. That doesn’t sound like a GM that thinks they are only 2 years away….
The only way I trade Gray to Houston is for Bregman, Fisher, Tucker, and Martes or for Corea and Martes.
1. he’s a SP. hes as likely to be terrible in 2019 as he is good. extending him is a bad idea for that same reason.
2. he’s only controlled through 2019. that one year is probably the earliest OAK is competitive.
I hear the deal is Gray and Lowrie for Correa. Announcement later today
Carlos Corrra isn’t getting traded. Why would they trade for an injured player? The A’s want players for now and the future. Getting a player like Corrra would be great for them but what’s the point when he can’t make an impact immediately
You can’t honestly think he was being serious, can you?
They talked to Semien about an extension over the off-season. Why would they want another shortstop with 2+ service time?
Gray for Fisher, SP, and LHP
Take the Astros to the cleaners, A’s
I was “-6” mocked for suggesting a Justin/Justin trade just days ago.
Looks like Houston is monitoring this comment board and filtering on “negative ratings” for new ideas.
Justin and Justin and $20MM for 2 Top 100s and 2 other prospects.
Houston has 6 Top 100s. 5 if you do not include Paulino who is suspended for 80 games.
Who says no first?
I still would say no if I were the Astros. Even with paying down $20 million of JV’s contract, you are essentially valuing him at 3/$50 for his age 34-36 seasons. If he was a free agent today, that is about the max I would feel comfortable paying. So you have now made him worth his salary. Why should I give up assets for a player with little to no surplus value? I guess if my scouts told me they felt like there was still some of the old JV in there despite the results, I might give up one of top 100 guys at a blocked position and make the other 2 prospects more 45 grade guys than 50 grade guys. I would still worry though because JV is at an age where guys start to fall off and not all all guys fall off slowly.
Remember that a lot of the value in JV is THIS YEAR.
Also..
JV has a very clean delivery. Notice the lack of “moving parts” and the way he keeps his elbow up, not down (like a scarecrow) when he takes his step forward.
Advanced Analytics staff know this. He will likely age much better than an average pitcher his age.
Someone will get a great value in JV.
Depends on your two top 100s. If you’re talking Martes and Tucker, Astros say no first. If it was the Verlander of last year, probably yes, but he just doesn’t look like the same guy. If you’re talking their bottom two guys in the top 100, then Tigers say no because that’s a lot of money to ship off for guys that might not be more than serviceable.
Want Gray? Entice A’s Billy Beane, big time!
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Astros ended up with Gray. I figured it would happen from the moment I heard about the Cubs getting Quintana. Astros definitely want to win now and have the prospects to get him pretty easily. That said, a few days ago, many of us were saying, “Frazier to the Red Sox makes too much sense not to happen,” and we all know how that turned out.
I’d be asking for Tucker/Whitley for Gray.. sure is a lot but trading Gray in division when he has #1/#2 stuff, and is under control for 2.5 years is asking a lot from us as well. If not I go back to the Brewers and ask for 2 of Brinson/Ray/Ortiz
I’ve never really understood the taboo about trading in-division. It’s one thing if you’re trading two major leaguers, but when one team is trying to win now and the other is trying to build for the future, what difference does it make whether you help a divisional team? Their windows of contention don’t line up so it doesn’t matter. Actually, no, it does matter because you face your own division’s teams 18 times during the season, so facing a great team can kill your record and get you a better draft pick.
The only place Tucker will be is in an Astros uniform next year or the following. If the A’s don’t except Fisher and or Martes and some throw ins (which they will) then Gray will find himself stuck in Oakland looking up.
I still predict he won’t be traded. The asking price is high and I do t think Oakland will
Get it
Verlander and Wilson to the Astros!
If JV and J-Wil go to Houston it’ll be for Tucker, Martes, and two lower prospects with the Tigers eating some cash. Dont know why people are talking about paulino when hes currently suspended. Also Houston offered Fisher for Wilson in the offseason and Detroit declined and now Wilsons value has gone up so fisher will not be the main piece.
Yankees fans think they can have Mateo as a centerpiece but if chapman got Torres as a rental they have to give him up for a pitcher with 2 years of control and maybe Clint Frazier too
That would be a bigger return then the Cubs got for Q not a chance that will happen.
Not all Yankee fans..just the one.
Why aren’t the Indians in talks for Gray???
Article the other day said they were talking to Oak
I kind of assume they are hoping to get a deal influenced with semi-ML parts like Naquin and maybe Clev tho, instead of just depleting more of the top of the system
Time for theo to swoop in!! I loved seeing that some reddit user i forget his name was the person that reported Quintana deal. I guess theo keeps it on QT
Want Gray? Entice A’s Billy Bean, big time!!!
It’s Beane good try though.
What would it take for the Astros to acquire Carlos Martinez?
Just don’t trade to the Yankees or Dodgers biggest crooks in Baseball
Lol.
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