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Poll: Can The Tigers Move Nicholas Castellanos?

By Kyle Downing | October 7, 2017 at 1:21pm CDT

While the Tigers weren’t considered favorites to win the AL Central coming into 2017, they certainly didn’t appear to be candidates to own the worst record in baseball. But slow starts from Justin Verlander and Ian Kinsler, along with the continued decline of other highly-paid veterans such as Miguel Cabrera, Jordan Zimmerman, Victor Martinez and Francisco Rodriguez, led Detroit to their first losing record at the All-Star break since 2010.

By the July 31st trade deadline, the organization had already shipped catcher Alex Avila and reliever Justin Wilson to the Cubs in exchange for younger players. On the final day of August, they doubled down on their rebuild by moving the large contracts of Verlander and outfielder Justin Upton in exchange for minor leaguers.

One player who survived the fire sale, despite clearing revocable trade waivers, was former top prospect Nicholas Castellanos.

Formerly a third baseman, Castellanos was moved to right field amid concerns about his glove at the hot corner. But while his performance at third was subpar, his work in right field this year was a disaster. In a 173-inning sample, Castellanos racked up -7 defensive runs saved while checking in with a catastrophic -80.5 runs per 150 games by measure of Ultimate Zone Rating. Some of this is the result of lack of experience in the outfield. It’s easy to imagine him improving his glove work to some extent with more training and playing time, but the transition hasn’t exactly been a smooth one to this point.

The real value, of course, lies in his bat. Castellanos smacked 44 homers to go along with a .277/.325/.493 slash line across 1112 plate appearances since the start of 2016, good for a 114 wRC+ during that span. Perhaps his most impressive skill has been his ability to make hard contact; his hard-contact rate sits at an impressive 40.4% over the past two seasons, and his 89.2 MPH average exit velocity during that time ranks 67th among major league hitters who’ve made contact in at least 500 at-bats. Even with subpar defense, his offensive output made him worth close to two full wins above replacement in 2017.

As Jon Heyman of Fan Rag noted when he first broke the news, it’s surprising that Castellanos was never claimed on trade waivers. He only made $3MM this season, and can be controlled for two more years through arbitration. There’s a raise coming, but it shouldn’t be too onerous. Lucas Duda earned a $2.525MM bump after hitting 27 homers and knocking in 73 runs across 554 plate appearances in 2015. Castellanos could probably exceed that increase — he hit 26 homers in 2017, but amassed over 100 more plate appearances and accumulated 28 more RBI than did Duda– though it suggests a reasonable ballpark figure.

Even if Castellanos projects only as a 2-WAR player, he might well cost less than $6MM in 2018 and can be controlled in 2019 as well. It seems as though there is some excess value in his contract, and the Tigers aren’t likely to be contenders over the next two seasons. With all this in mind, it seems probable that the Tigers will try to shop him his offseason.

The tough part about imagining a Castellanos trade, even if you are relatively bullish on his outlook, is that teams don’t often get much in return for league-average position players with this amount of control and at this general price point. When the Nationals traded Yunel Escobar to the Angels before the 2016 season, he had one year and $7MM left on his contract, as well as a $7MM option for 2017. They received Trevor Gott in return, a fireballing reliever who was believed to have some upside but hasn’t yet panned out. The Rockies got a chance to take a shot on bouncebacks from Brandon Barnes and Jordan Lyles when they sent Dexter Fowler to the Astros; both players were thought to have some upside, but neither worked out. Most recently, the Dodgers coughed up a highly valued prospect in Jose De Leon in order to net Logan Forsythe from the Rays prior to the 2017 season, though De Leon has been hurt all year.

The market for Castellanos is somewhat cloudy. It’s unclear whether teams will view him as a third baseman or an outfield project. His 2017 performance also shows him to be far better against left-handed pitching (.939 OPS, 16% K rate) than right-handers (.769 OPS, 23% K rate). That, combined with his poor defense, may lead some teams to view him as more of a platoon hitter than a regular, which would certainly limit what type of prospects they’d be willing to give up. That being said, there are a few potential landing spots for Castellanos.

  • The Indians could be in the market for a right-handed hitting outfielder if Brandon Guyer can’t turn things around at the plate, or if they’re unable to retain veteran Austin Jackson.
  • The Blue Jays have made it clear that they plan to try and win in 2018, so they could potentially go after Castellanos if they decide to move on from struggling veteran Jose Bautista, though they could opt to give top prospect Anthony Alford a shot.
  • With Yasiel Puig falling out of favor once again, the Dodgers could conceivably become a potential suitor. Their outfield is full of question marks, and they’d be one candidate to pay Castellanos’s salary even if they only plan to use him in a platoon role.
  • If they can’t re-sign slugging phenom J.D. Martinez, the Diamondbacks could potentially look at acquiring Castellanos as a cheaper right field alternative. The D-backs’ payroll is already set to pay a combined $58.6MM to Zack Greinke, Paul Goldschmidt and Yasmany Tomas in 2018, and they’ll also be paying significant amounts to several arb-eligible players.
  • Similarly, the Angels could look to trade for Castellanos as a replacement if they don’t end up retaining Justin Upton, who seems likely to exercise the opt-out clause in his contract at the end of the 2017 season.
  • With the Braves nearing the end of their rebuilding process, they have their sights set on contending in 2018 and 2019. If they decide to move on from Rio Ruiz, Castellanos could man third base in Atlanta for the next two years.

Further complicating the market for Castellanos as a third baseman is the glut of similar right-handed hitting free agents at that position. Righties Yunel Escobar, Todd Frazier and Eduardo Nunez all offer similar production from the position, with Mike Moustakas offering a premium option who bats from the left side of the plate. The free agent market for outfielders is just as competitive. J.D. Martinez is a clear superior option as far as righty-hitting corner outfielders, though not all teams will be able to afford the type of contract he’s likely to command. Lorenzo Cain is a far better player, though he’ll obviously be hired as a center fielder and therefore will compete in a different market. Austin Jackson, Melky Cabrera, Colby Rasmus, Carlos Gomez and Carlos Gonzalez all offer production at (or close to) Castellanos’ level, although each has his own set of question marks. Jay Bruce offers similar production for teams interested in a lefty slugger.

So it seems that the biggest roadblock in trying to move Castellanos is that players like him aren’t in short supply. If the free agent dominoes fall too quickly, the Tigers might find themselves unable to get even a modest prospect return, and could opt to simply wait until the trade deadline to see if his market improves. In any case, it’s hard to imagine Detroit getting a top 100 prospect in return for their young slugger unless they opt to package him with another asset.

The Tigers are in a really tough position with Castellanos. They have no great need for his services during their rebuilding years, and could benefit by shedding his $14MM price tag through 2019. Unfortunately, the plethora of alternatives on the free agent market means that the Tigers have little to no leverage in negotiations with other teams. He’s got too much value to simply unload for a garden-variety minor leaguer, but if Detroit can’t trade him this offseason or at the 2018 trade deadline, they could end up in the same situation next year at this time. At that point, his trade value will be even lower than it is now. Whether or not Castellanos will be in a Tigers uniform come April is anybody’s guess.

What do you think will happen? Will the Tigers be able to trade Nicholas Castellanos?

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36 Comments

  1. Brixton

    8 years ago

    I mean, hes an awful 3B, doesn’t have the bat to be a 1B/DH. Unless LF works out, hes pretty mediocre overall.

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    • pepesilvia

      8 years ago

      I’m tired of this guy always so negative. Yeah he’s terrible at 3B what because you saw some flawed numbers on it? How many games did u watch? 44 home runs yeah he’s highly average. What a joke.

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      • casey

        8 years ago

        44 over 2 seasons

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  2. notagain27

    8 years ago

    Unless you have a Inside source willing to risk their job and a fine, there is no way to substantiate a waiver claim. There is zero chance Castellanos went unclaimed during the waiver period. How many young, controllable righthanded power hitters are there available on the open market. This guy is a trade chip with value and if the Tigers do decide to trade him this winter, teams will line up to take a chance to make that deal.

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    • Kyle Downing

      8 years ago

      Hey notagain27, here’s the source for that info.

      fanragsports.com/heyman-verlander-just-one-many-bi…

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      • notagain27

        8 years ago

        That’s not the commissioner’s office link so it is just a rumor unless it is a direct quote from Avila.

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        • arc89

          8 years ago

          He has value but as a DH so that limits his value. Maybe a 5th starter or a relief pitcher. The DH market is very small so unless his defense turns around they most likely keep him as DH/1B.

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    • JKB 2

      8 years ago

      Players clear waivers all the time and its often announced genius so …. uhm … about that … zero chance did you say …..

      Sorry that you do not like the fact he passed thru waivers but too bad. He did!

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  3. AcaciaStrain

    8 years ago

    He’s still young enough you could convince someone of his upside for a small boost in return.

    There are things to like offensively: average strikeout rate, above average power (.200+ ISO), doesn’t hit many grounders.

    Interestingly enough, he ranked in the top 20 of xwOBA-wOBA, so his batted ball profile was better than the results. I actually count FIVE Tigers hitters in the top 20 where their batted ball profile didn’t match the results.

    I think he’s a guy that could use a move to a less spacious park.

    Overall this year he ranked 39th in xwOBA:

    36 – Morrison
    37 – Bryant
    38 – Pham
    39 – Castellanos
    40 – Lowire
    41 – Abreu

    He’s a near nothing in the field (whether it be at 3B or RF) and below average on the bases though.

    So he’s one of those guys who isn’t quite good enough a hitter to be a 1B/DH type, but not good enough in the field to play elsewhere. That issue if further compounded by playing 81 games at Comerica.

    I think though that an analytically inclined front office should take a shot on him, and maybe can get him for cheap. Somehow he’s only 25.

    He’s hit like a league average DH the past two years (114 wRC+ for Castellanos vs a ~110 wRC+ for lg avg DH), and moving to a friendlier ballpark (one where CF isn’t in the next county) I think a breakout is possible.

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  4. unitedmets

    8 years ago

    I remember this guy use to be a top 20 prospect in baseball. There’s still upside. I wonder if the Mets will consider him as a possible replacement for David Wright at 3B. He can be a super utility players.

    Mets: Nick Castellanos

    Tigers: Brandon Nimmo

    Upside for Upside

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    • 2dmo4

      8 years ago

      Castellanos is a terrible at 3b.

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      • Mr. Slave's Gerbil

        8 years ago

        Castellanos can’t be too much worse compared to a Wright/Asdrubal fielding combination…

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  5. fred-3

    8 years ago

    he’ll end up on the Dodgers, Cardinals, Cubs and mash because the Tigers can’t develop young players

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    • CharlieHotel

      8 years ago

      Cubs have zero place for him. 3B and the corners are locked up.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Yea by a .205 weak glove and a 180 million dollar defensive replacement…

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        • Brixton

          8 years ago

          Jason Heyward had like x3 the WAR of Castellanos lol

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        • mrnatewalter

          8 years ago

          Per Fangraphs,

          Heyward has a WAR of 2.2 over the past two seasons. Castellanos had a WAR of 1.7 just this year alone.

          Do you even math?

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        • Brixton

          8 years ago

          Either that.. or I used a difference reference…. JHey has a 2.3 WAR, and Castellanos has a 0.7 WAR per bref.

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        • mrnatewalter

          8 years ago

          I’ll admit, I should have looked at both WAR numbers.

          That said, it comes to show, maybe Heyward isn’t objectively that much better than Castellanos? Can you at least accept that?

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      • fred-3

        8 years ago

        He’s probably better than Schwaber

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  6. RunDMC

    8 years ago

    The only way I would want ATL on him is if he comes with Fulmer. He has a nice bat, but ATL hates defense way too much to bring someone in that continues that trend. Just imagine Castellanos at 3B with Matt Kemp in LF backing him up seems like a single-into-a-triple waiting to happen.

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  7. luvbeisbol

    8 years ago

    He lets in a run on defense, no matter where he plays, for every one he produces on offense. That makes him a dh. He isn’t exactly David Ortiz.

    Who’d want him? An NL team would have to have its head examined.

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      idk who would want an .800 OPS bat to be their DH either

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      • mrnatewalter

        8 years ago

        Considering only 3 DH’s had an OPS of .800 or higher, I’d say at least 12 teams could use that.

        Morales, Pujols, Holliday, Hanley Ramirez, Moss, V-Mart, Trumbo and Beltran are all among those who had an OPS lower than .800.

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  8. sufferforsnakes

    8 years ago

    I sure hope the Tribe brings Jackson back. No way I’d want Castellanos.

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    • darkstar61

      8 years ago

      If they want to keep Lindor and Ramirez as the DP duo, meaning Kipnis probably stays in the OF (assuming a corner) with Brantley, Chisenhall, Zimmer and possibly Naquin and/or Allen …where does Jackson even play? And you honestly think he’d take that gig over a better opportunity for time elsewhere?

      I have to assume Jackson is likely gone, tbh

      Fighting to keep Santana and/or Bruce to cover 1st is probably a more important and likely goal.

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  9. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    Clay Holmes and an A ball lotto ticket for Castellanos.

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  10. empiresam

    8 years ago

    Jay Bruce a comparable player? Forget L-R, he’ll command considerably more deservedly so. Since going to Cleveland, he upped his value like no one else not named Martinez.

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    • darkstar61

      8 years ago

      “Since going to Cleveland, he upped his value like no one else not named Martinez.”

      Michael?

      How much increase we talking here? Like you think maybe Cleveland can now get as many as two tubs of Bazooka?

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Jay bruce is what he is. A slightly above average hitter with below average defence. No team is giving him a large deal based on two hot months

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  11. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    Nick Castellanos is not an average hitter; he led AL 3B with 301 TB. That’s better than Mike Moustakas in is best year. His offense is similar to that of another former 3B Ryan Zimmerman.

    As far as defense goes, he started out a 3B in the minors; he was moved to LF then back to 3B. Now, he’s learning RF at the MLB level. The Tigers need to move Castellanos to 1B and keep him there.

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Total bases doesn’t show if you’re good or bad lmao

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  12. reverik

    8 years ago

    Just a technical point – the Tigers are not a tag in this post, so it’s not showing up in the Tigers feed on the App. Thank you.

    Reply
  13. stymeedone

    8 years ago

    The poll missed an option. Tigers opt to keep him. They are not contending, so they won’t be killed by his defense. They are not contending, so they need to give fans a reason to go see them play. He is a home grown talent. That means something to fans. As evidenced by the comments, his value is low, and demand is limited, due to his defensive deficiencies. If trading him doesn’t help the rebuild, his value to the team in PR and ticket sales outweighs the need to move him.

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  14. gamemusic3 2

    8 years ago

    “With Yasiel Puig falling out of favor once again”

    According to whom?

    Reply
  15. MHanny17

    8 years ago

    Mariners first baseman

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