The Rangers will not make a qualifying offer to right-hander Andrew Cashner, GM Jon Daniels tells reporters (Twitter link via MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan). MLBl.com’s Mark Feinsand had tweeted shortly before Daniels’ comments that Cashner would not receive a QO.
A qualifying offer for Cashner has always been a long shot, though reports in recent weeks have suggested that Texas was at least weighing the one-year, $17.4MM proposal to Cashner. Texas signed Cashner to a one-year, $10MM contract last offseason and was rewarded with 166 2/3 innings of 3.40 ERA ball. Cashner, though, turned in one of the worst K/9 rates in all of baseball (4.64) and averaged a pedestrian 3.46 BB/9 as well. His unsightly K/BB numbers make him a candidate for significant regression in the ERA department, as is evidenced by less-than-glowing reviews from metrics like FIP (4.61), xFIP (5.30) and SIERA (5.52).
That said, Cashner has made 27 or more starts in each of the past three seasons and averaged 150+ innings per year in that time. He’s not the top-end starter that may projected him to be in his prospect days and early in his career with the Padres, but the 31-year-old should nonetheless draw interest from several clubs this offseason as teams look to round out the back of their rotation.
He should try to become a reliever
Agreed. Maybe sign a small deal to LA or somewhere as a Long reliever
No he shouldn’t Einstein he is just coming off a season where he had a 3.40 ERA as a STARTER and was even better in that role back in 2013-14. Not even close to being a failure in that role. I’d like to see him and Rene Rivera end up on the same team. They seemed to work really well together.
look at his peripherals and try to convince anyone he was good. If you looked at everything but his ERA, he’d be looking at a MiLB deal.
Sure, he used to be good.. when his pitched in Petco.
He hasn’t been good in 3 seasons
Yes, how dare Cashner succeed based on an ability to limit hard contact rather than doing so via the almighty strikeout! How very dare…
Cashner isn’t a reliever and it’s going to stay that way whether you like it or not!
Cashner’s WHIP was >1.3 this year and you can’t consistently win with that. That also is the best he’s been since 2014. While he has been reasonably durable he just hasn’t been very good, including last year.
“ . . . it’s going to stay that way whether you like it or not.”
So not only are you a MLB general manager incognito here, you’re the GM of the team Cashner will eventually sign with? Got it.
So he might regress somewhat. Whatever. I saw it with the Padres that he gets better results when he is actually pitching as opposed to throwing and that appeared to be what he was going for this year. Best case scenario he ends up being the anti-Samardzija. Doesn’t have the best peripherals but consistently outperforms them, a skill that has been shown in the past to actually be a thing and not always completely luck-based.
By the way, only trolls say things like “So you are a GM or something?” so…
Got any substantive response or just attitude?
So, he had marginal, short term success in the biggest park in baseball, and has failed to do well anywhere else, except the year that his FIP, K rate and walk rate suggests immense regression?
Okay.
What wasn’t substantive about my response?
There was nothing marginal about the way he pitched in PETCO in 2013 and 2014 and it was for two years. Idk how “short term” that really is.
I wouldn’t expect him to regress THAT much because like I said, he does best when he is pitching rather than throwing. But anyway, there is no reason he should look to move to the bullpen coming off a largely successful season in the rotation. And he won’t.
I agree with Brixton 100%
He’s wrong. Why would Cashner try to become a reliever after an above average season as a starter?
If you were actually watching him throughout the season, you would know that the walks were down the second half of his season. Missing barrels gets quicker outs that missing bats
Really should have traded him. Even if the prospects they were offered weren’t great they wouldn’t have to do much to be worth a guy who was going to walk for no return after the season.
Better than most of the guys the Orioles ran out there this year. I’d give him 3/30 in a heartbeat.
Good going John Daniels you jackass, Cash was one of the best pitchers on the rotation. Can’t believe to hear about this. John Daniels is the one who needs fired.
Work on that grammar.
Uhh what
Cashner’s never been a big strikeout guy, despite the stuff, and it’s trending down rapidly, while the walk rate is going up precipitously. Red flags everywhere without even getting into his extensive injury history. He might have some value as a long reliever/spot starter but everything screams regression and I’d hate to be the GM who is somehow convinced by 165 innings of a good ERA that Cashner is a better pitcher than he is.
He’ll get signed as a full-time starter this offseason. It was the case a year ago and he’s a more attractive free agent now than he was then.
Oh, he’ll be signed as a starter. But the team who signs him will regret that by mid-season. There’s nothing in is profile that is encouraging.
We will see
Texas knows he’d have jumped all over that QO, and they didn’t want another year of him at $17.4M. Cashner is right up Baltimore’s alley because he doesn’t have much of an injury history, and he’s not been successful enough to demand much more than $12M/year for 2 or 3 years. Success? Eh, but it’s a match made in Camden.
“Doesn’t have much of an injury history” err… what? Injuries are the biggest problem with Cashner. And if they knew he was going to take the QO they really should have traded him.
Cashner is hurt ever single year!
Mariners go get him!
Eye test : he stinks
He’s a good 5th starter on a bad team, or mediocre spot starter on a “wanna be “ wild card challenging team.
Cashner’s K rates/9 IP, year by year since he became a starter:
6.6, 6.8, 8.0, 7.6, 4.6
His walk rates:
2.4, 2.1, 3.2, 4.1, 3.4
Swinging strike rates are down. as well, and he threw more wild pitches and hit more batters in 2017 than any other season in his career. There are so few pitchers who succeed in baseball with strikeout rates under 5 that it’s hard to see him sustaining this, but some team will probably find out the hard way that this isn’t 1973 anymore.